Line 7:(Catholic Church) became heavily involved in secular government.A very objective way to determine which church schismed, Orthodox or Catholic, study the Original Church before 1054 nand see which continued the ways of the Original Church and which changed.
PRIOR TO 1054 SCHISM
1 Ancestral Sin not Original Sin
2 Church Government- Conciliar
3 Bishop carries the Apostolic Succession
4 Each Local Church is the Entire Church so no need for Universal Bishop
5 Church is not Secular
6 Priests can Marry
Divine Liturgy of John Chrysostom- During the period of the fourth to sixth centuries, the shape of the Eastern Divine Liturgy reached its final form under the guidance of liturgists such as St. John Chrysostom. In this same period the major formative changes occurred, most of which resulted in liturgical components that corresponded to the Church's developing theological understanding
Ancient Hymns- not Modern- the hymn "Only-Begotten Son" ( composed around the 4th or 5th Centuries )and the "The Trisagion Hymnn (408-450), this period and on through the ninth century, hymns were composed and added to the Divine Liturgy, such as the Cherubic Hymn, sung while the priest recites the prayer that is now called "The Prayer of the Cherubic Hymn." ( In either 573 or 574, Justinian I had the Cherubic Hymn added to the standard liturgy.) These hymns have continued to be heard every Sunday from then until today.
8 No Infallibility
AFTER 1054 ORTHODOX CHURCH CONTINUED THE ABOVE
AFTER 1053 CATHOLIC CHURCH CHANGED ORIGINAL CHURCVH PRACTICES AS FOLLOWS:
Original Sin not Ancestral Sin
Church Government Monarchial, not Conciliar
3 Pope carries the Apostolic Succession. Bishops receive authority from Pope
4 Each local Church is not a Church in itself but one part, with all the other Cath Churches, in the Catholic Church
5. Church became heavily involved in secular gopvernment
6. Priests cannot Marry
7 Mass changed many many times
8 Scattered Chanting during service
9. Modern Music- some historical hymns
Herm, you're an Orthodox. You guys have been very involved- if not entwined - with secular governments for yrs.
Line 3: I believe Apostolic succession isn't strictly Papal. Every Bishop ordained is involved in the continuity of Apostolic succession.
Line 6: you know Orthodox Bishops do not marry?Your Priests are only allowed one marriage, unlike the laity. Celibacy is practiced in Orthodox just like Catholicism is my point.
line 8: What the heck is "scattered chanting"?
line 7: " Mass changed many times" . Oh? I would like more info on that. Because if you're talking about language and order of the service, then the Orthodox (I would think) would be just as 'guilty' in that. But the meaning of the Mass hasn't changed in neither of our Churches.