Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

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The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ. Full Story
Clay

Saint Paul, MN

#455714 Jun 23, 2013
There has been a growing exodus of Evangelicals coming into the Catholic faith. I believe that is causing Old GEE and Preston as well as other career ministers to become viscous in their attacks.

'Pride cometh before the fall'

below this web page is a you tube video of a couple Protestant pastors addressing the reality of many notable Ministers coming into tthe Catholic Church.

www.catholic-convert.com/blog/2012/05/24/evan...

Confrint, Old GEE, and Preston must wake up in a cold sweat realizing that their grandkids could possibly be received into the Catholic faith one day. Man that's gotta sting.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#455715 Jun 23, 2013
Human Being wrote:
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June:
Good grief!
You are putting a load on my back!
I try not to judge others, but that doesn't mean I don't use my brain.
Others can disagree with me, and I am fine with it. I don't have to be right. And they don't have to be right.
OH ... so then your "newly revised" story IS that everybody that disagrees on the meanings of scriptures can be right ... according to you???

:)

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#455716 Jun 23, 2013
Clay wrote:
There has been a growing exodus of Evangelicals coming into the Catholic faith. I believe that is causing Old GEE and Preston as well as other career ministers to become viscous in their attacks.
'Pride cometh before the fall'
Are you ULTRA PROUD that they are coming back to believe as YOU believe???

'Pride cometh before the fall" can also be used by others.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#455717 Jun 23, 2013
Clay wrote:
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I said "during the pregnancy, Mary's blood would have supplied Jesus with nutrients and oxygen to keep Him alive.
Couldn't Jehovah have supplied him with all things necessary without using the material body of a woman???

You don't have much faith in the almighty. But then if he lived my guess is, he would have no faith in Christians either. They told nothing but lies about the faithful Jews.

:)

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#455718 Jun 23, 2013
LTM wrote:
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God demands full attention June, Muslims are different because they have no savior,
You haven't been paying attention. Many Muslims believe that the 12th Imam is their savior, and when he comes, the converted Jesus to Islam will be with him.

Isn't that news ever so wonderful???

:)
Human Being

Kinder, LA

#455719 Jun 23, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
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Lots of "I" being used HB.
Self.
New Age Spiritual Leader:

You are correct. Its a bad habit.

But there are times when talking in the third person just doesn't get the point across.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#455720 Jun 23, 2013
RoSesz wrote:
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And I find comfort when I feel led to do something that dies nit come naturally
So, believing that a god of the Jews loves your style of Christianity dies nit come naturally???

:)

Since: Nov 08

usa

#455721 Jun 23, 2013
hojo wrote:
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The Catholic Church is NOT denomination! It NEVER has been one! It is the Jesus Christs One (and only one) TRUE UNIVERSAL CHURCH established, formed and initiated by Jesus HIMSELF.(Matthew 16:13-21) Men such as Luther, Zwingli, Wycliff, Hus, and the hundreds of "prodigal son" rebellious and defiant reformists,(since the Reformation) founded denominations. This forum is "inundated" by other man-made, bible only, self-interpreting reformist preachers---(self-appointed and self proclaimed) bible ministers that continue to splinter, fracture and divide the Body of Christ and the Body of Believers. Paul confirms (in I Timothy 3:15) that the CHURCH (not the bible alone) is the pinnacle, pillar and foundation of the TRUTH. There is ONLY ONE TRUTH, "not" 42,000 contradicting, inconsistent and conflicting (bible only Protestant denominations of "relative truth" (what each person or denomination decide as truth! AND that ONE and ONLY TRUTH is in Jesus Christ, in and through HIS One True Apostolic Catholic Church which has existed since the time of Christ, over 2000 years ago. The BRIDE---JESUS' BRIDE--The (ONE TRUE UNIVERSAL CATHOLIC CHURCH)!
It is a denomination, open your eyes buddy, it's an expansionist religion, and it has nothing to do with god/jesus it's all about power,greed,money. nothing about religion.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#455722 Jun 23, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>even oldjg is telling that it was impossible for od to have had sex with mary to create jesus. notice that word" create".
so the question must be asked.Can a human being take the form of God? the answer of course is no, a resounding NO!!!!!!!
therefore Jesus could not have taken anything from mary, including her DNA.
so this leaves only ONE alternative, Jesus changed Himself into that Embryo, it was neer has Robert wishes to say that God Created an embryo. JESUS WAS NOT A CREATED EMBRYO. Jesus is God who took Manhood upon Himself.
Jesus took Manhood or Humanity or Flesh upon Himself. It cannot be the other way around, mary could not give Humanity to the Son of God.
The god of the Jews likes to do things the complicated way.

Humans created him that way. That's why he's nuttier than a fruitcake.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#455723 Jun 23, 2013
OldJG wrote:
Roman Catholic Dogma....????? AGAIN!!!!
Another Roman Catholic lie....Not the immaculate conception but the IMMACULATE "DECEPTION"
If you become a Jew today, Jehovah might share with you his secret about why he created evil along with good.

This is a paid advertisement.

:)

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#455724 Jun 23, 2013
The SBC does not teach that baptism is necessary for Salvation....regeneration..... .but Catholics do....both cannot possibly be right...

Christian baptism is the immersion of a believer in water in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. It is an act of obedience symbolizing the believer's faith in a crucified, buried, and risen Saviour, the believer's death to sin, the burial of the old life, and the resurrection to walk in newness of life in Christ Jesus. It is a testimony to his faith in the final resurrection of the dead. Being a church ordinance, it is prerequisite to the privileges of church membership and to the Lord's Supper.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#455725 Jun 23, 2013
Human Being wrote:
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Definitely we all are in some sort of "insecurity" concerning our lack of knowing. And we all act differently, and have different demons to fight.
So you still have demons to fight?

Where is that Jew Jesus in this new drama? Didn't he wipe all your sins away ... or did he just smear them around a little here and there???

:)

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#455726 Jun 23, 2013
OldJG wrote:
Roman Catholic Dogma.....?????
One lie after another. Where do the lies end and the truth begin?
Are only the religious myths that others value based on lies ... or to be fair, could it be that all myths in all religions (including yours) are based on lies???

:)
Human Being

Kinder, LA

#455727 Jun 23, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
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Maybe I should have been clearer.
One does not need "organized religion"?
Do you always allow men to decide what you are to believe?
If the answer is "no", then Self has interjected.
New Age Spiritual Leader

But how much poorer in our understanding would we be, for lack of perspective through time if we did not have organized religion?

Being self/Self aware, and forgetting everything else is sort of a mind game, and lends oneself to be easily manipulated. There is a sense of isolation, when in fact Creation has a sort of flow. If you don't know where you came from, then how will you get to where you want to go?

So without organized religion, there is a lack of dimension in our lives.

But also I would agree with you that one can be distracted by organized religion from seeking a goal, and be in a sense "content" without moving toward a goal. Of course I call that being "at one" with God. You may call it..., Self. I call it worship, you may call it enlightenment.

So we beg to differ. Its fine with me.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#455728 Jun 23, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
The SBC does not teach that baptism is necessary for Salvation....regeneration..... .but Catholics do....both cannot possibly be right...
WAIT! My hand is up. Let me guess. Your belief is the only right one.

Did I get the right answer???

:)
Human Being

Kinder, LA

#455729 Jun 23, 2013
Clay wrote:
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Today's Gospel (luke 9:18-24) was read throughout the world at all Catholic Masses. The Priest at the Cathedral of Saint Paul where I attend, delivered a beautiful homily about 'picking up our crosses and following Christ'. He talked about the new and vibrant evangelization and how the Catholic Church is on the verge of something big. He sees things today that he hasn't seen in his 20 yrs as a Priest. During the day, strangers walk thru the doors of the Cathedral and quietly walk around. Of course, its a beautiful Church and a tourist attraction, so thats not necessarily uncommon. But he is seeing a different 'type' coming thru the doors. Mothers with children; Grandmothers with grandchildren asking about the Catholic faith! They are not admiring the artwork. They are seeking God. Many were raised in the Protestant communities and were led to believe negative stuff their whole lives about the Church.
A Grandmother walked in the the Church with her Grandaughter.(She wanted to introduce her to Christianity because her daughter wouldn't to do it.) The 7 or 8 yr old was able to see Our Lord thru the icons, statues and other artwork throughout the Church. Thru a child's eyes, Christianity can be revealed by paintings. In an hour, this child was able to grasp Christianity without ever picking up a Bible. She could see the birth, the Apostles, the passion and crucifixion; the weeping of Mary at the foot of the cross; the Michaelangelo Pieta of Mary holding the crucified Lord in her arms; she saw how Christ came back from the dead and showed himself to His Mother and other Apostles. This is profound thru a kids eyes.
I rambled on too long. But I do think the Holy Spirit is starting to call people back to their home. Perhaps that's a sign of Christ's imminent return.
Clay

Very nice story.

Our priest does a very, very good job of bringing all three scripture readings together, every Sunday, including this week.

And somewhere in the homily he makes the case for the new evangelization as well. And this week did an excellent job as well.

For some unknown reason, today we had about 1/3 more people at Mass, than general. And for as small town, that is impressive.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#455730 Jun 23, 2013
Human Being wrote:
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But how much poorer in our understanding would we be, for lack of perspective through time if we did not have organized religion?
Why don't you be honest and say ... "But how much poorer in our understanding would we be, for lack of perspective through time if we did not have MY Catholic religion?"

You don't give a rat's ass about those in other religions, OR those who go to hell in your own religion. It's all about your Catholic religion and your own concept of your own salvation.

And that Is the truth ... or you would not BE a Catholic.
Human Being

Kinder, LA

#455731 Jun 23, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
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OH ... so then your "newly revised" story IS that everybody that disagrees on the meanings of scriptures can be right ... according to you???
:)
June

In deference to another, I would prefer to be wrong. But since this forum allows us to discuss things, it would be wrong for me to not explain my beliefs, I most instances.

In explaining what I understand, I can do it in a gracious and loving manner, or not. It is my preference to do so, as I believe it is what I am, a Christian.

You need not do so, as you claim you are not a Christian. I am sorry if this is a source of frustration for you. But things are what they often seem to be.
Human Being

Kinder, LA

#455732 Jun 23, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
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Why don't you be honest and say ... "But how much poorer in our understanding would we be, for lack of perspective through time if we did not have MY Catholic religion?"
You don't give a rat's ass about those in other religions, OR those who go to hell in your own religion. It's all about your Catholic religion and your own concept of your own salvation.
And that Is the truth ... or you would not BE a Catholic.
June:

I care about each person equally, which is difficult to convey in words without action.

I can generally communicate with greater ease with someone with whom I am acquainted, and know, to enter a conversation, not to take it over, but to find commonalities on which to build.

What is your purpose? It seems you care enough to give your opinion, but are unwilling to receive opinions, especially when you disagree.

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#455733 Jun 23, 2013
Catholic quote Matt 28:18-19 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:{teach...: or, make disciples, or, Christians of all nations}

And teach:Theologians distinguish a twofold necessity, which they call a necessity of means (medii) and a necessity of precept (pręcepti). The first (medii) indicates a thing to be so necessary that, if lacking (though inculpably), salvation can not be attained.

baptizo, to immerse, submerge; to make whelmed (i.e. fully wet); used only (in the New Testament) of ceremonial ablution, especially (technically) of the ordinance of Christian baptism:--Baptist, baptize, wash.

Would some one show me, from the definition of water...its saving power!!!!

Plus....they conveniently omit verse 20: Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

Which, per verse 19, teaching comes first, then baptizing. So, the act of baptizing, as the SBC teaches, in and of itself has no saving power....none...zilch...

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