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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 683885 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#454979 Jun 21, 2013
Dan wrote:
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Baptism doesn't remit sins committed; it remits Original Sin.
If you don't believe in it, that's fine.
Noah cleared the slate, if he was considered "righteous" by "God", and all other individuals had been killed off.

Your version is lacking this.

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#454980 Jun 21, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
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Jesus said the bread is His body. He said we must eat His body, that His flesh and blood are real food and drink. He gave it to His disciples and they ate it. He knew what He was doing. I don't think Jesus is pathetic. You're free to choose your own act of rebellion. Good luck.
then go set at that table and enjoy that bread that they ate that day. as for ALL Christians, when we partake, it is because we obey His Word and do that in remembrance of Him as He again SAID. We are not able to go to His Table and eat with HIM(that is reserved for us later) and partake of that Bread physically, therefore it must be Spiritually discerned as to what He meant and you sure don't know.

I think and know that Jesus is My Savior, however I do think that YOU are pathetic

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#454981 Jun 21, 2013
since I have been on this forum(probably longer than any one else on here) I have found out one thing that is definite.

CATHOLICS DDONT HAVE A CLUE AS TO THE WILL OF GOD NOR ANY OF HIS WAYS.
Clay

Lawrence, MA

#454982 Jun 21, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>lol, you catholics are so funny, it is pathetic. that any human being could think that Jesus resides in a little wafer at all of your different churches at the same time.
so let me help you out(you need it) it is the Holy Ghost that He sent to live inside of us,that is the perfect {intimate] way, and that is biblical, your little wafer goes into a toilet and into the sewer, while the Holy Ghost STILL resides into our temple(body).
critics like you are free to choose their own act of rebellion with their opinion, but they are not free to choose their own set of Biblical FACTS. that belongs to God and His Word
Are you saying you have the Holy Ghost in you? The reason I ask is because you don't act like it. In fact, you don't act like any Christian I've ever met.

How can you and Old Gee be sure the Holy Ghost is dwelling in you and not some strange Spirit?

It seems to me you required way too much ignorance to believe your version of Christianity. Way too much.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#454983 Jun 21, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
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The word sin came from archery and didn't have any association with evil and a devil until Christianity got a hold on that word to defame it.
Originally the word sin simply meant in archery to "miss the mark."
Wrong.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sin_ (mythology)

The Sumerians were around alot earlier than the entymology you use.

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#454984 Jun 21, 2013
Dust Storm wrote:
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No she was just a highly favoured bad Mother. lol
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debate that smart alec
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#454985 Jun 21, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
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JESUS SAID ...
Did the god of the Jews yet whisper in your ears that you are preaching a fake religion???

By the way Mr.-in-between ... As religion is based on theory ... what IS a fake religion???

:)
rosesz

Pompano Beach, FL

#454986 Jun 21, 2013
OldJG wrote:
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So baptism removes "original sin"? Really? If so, who do you keep on sinning after your baptism if the sin is removed?
The term “original sin” deals with Adam’s sin of disobedience in eating from the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil and its effects upon the rest of the human race. Original sin can be defined as “that sin and its guilt that we all possess in God’s eyes as a direct result of Adam’s sin in the Garden of Eden.” The doctrine of original sin focuses particularly on its effects on our nature and our standing before God, even before we are old enough to commit conscious sin.
As such baby baptism has nothing to do with salvation unless you die before the age of reason???

Salvation is through the Redemption bought on the Cross. We in a heartfelt and KNOWING manner must accept
That salvation comes through the Cross and lay oursekves at HIS feet in repentance and have faith provided by
HIS free gift of grace.

Then we can be baptized.

Though personally I see nothing wrong with baby Baptism or dedication.

The CC confirms Baptism with Cinfirmation when they recirvr ghd Holy Spirit..but again this is
Done by rite and age.
OldJG

Rockford, IL

#454987 Jun 21, 2013
OldJG wrote:
<quoted text>
So baptism removes "original sin"? Really? If so, who do you keep on sinning after your baptism if the sin is removed?
The term “original sin” deals with Adam’s sin of disobedience in eating from the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil and its effects upon the rest of the human race. Original sin can be defined as “that sin and its guilt that we all possess in God’s eyes as a direct result of Adam’s sin in the Garden of Eden.” The doctrine of original sin focuses particularly on its effects on our nature and our standing before God, even before we are old enough to commit conscious sin.
Dan wrote:
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Yeah, I know what Original Sin refers to.
"......its effects on our nature and our standing before God, even before we are old enough to commit conscious sin." is instructive as it explains why we Baptize infants instead of making them wait as you do, until they can perform an act to your congregation's satisfaction.
If dumb had a name it would be "Dan". You are the most moronic self-righteous Roman mackerel snapper on this forum.

Dan stated baptism washes away "original sin" and now Dan is back pedaling like a good little Roman. You never answered what I originally asked about, guess what, "baptism and original sin". Here it is ONE MORE TIME Danny boy....

So baptism removes "original sin"? Really? If so, who do you keep on sinning after your baptism if the sin is removed?
Anthony MN

Saint Paul, MN

#454988 Jun 21, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
960
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Typical of Catholics...deny the sun rises in the east...no matter what is shown you..
My definition of venerate is in line with the teaching of your pope..
Pope John Paul II and Marian Worship...
POPE PRAYER TO MARY.
Pope John Paul bowing before a statue of Mary in worship.(See below right pic as well)
On May 7 Pope John Paul II dedicated his general audience to "the Virgin Mary" and urged all Christians to accept Mary as their mother. He noted the words spoken by Jesus on the cross to Mary and to John--"Woman, behold thy son!" and "Behold thy mother!" (John 19:26,27), and he claimed that in this statement "IT IS POSSIBLE TO UNDERSTAND THE AUTHENTIC MEANING OF MARIAN WORSHIP in the ecclesial community ... which furthermore is based on the will of Christ" (Vatican Information Service, May 7, 1997).
John Paul II underlined that "the history of Christian piety teaches that MARY IS THE PATH THAT LEADS TO CHRIST, and that filial devotion to her does not at all diminish intimacy with Jesus, but rather, it increases it and leads it to very high levels of perfection." He concluded by asking all Christians "to make room (for Mary) in their daily lives, ACKNOWLEDGING HER PROVIDENTIAL ROLE IN THE PATH OF SALVATION"
Now you have more denial to do....
Wrong. I linked the document with the actual words proving this was a mis-representation of what Bl. John Paul said. You keep going back to the well, but it's dry my friend.
Dan

Omaha, NE

#454989 Jun 21, 2013
wilderide wrote:
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If it's not just, then neither can God be.
Sin is not "just", so your fears should be allayed, I guess.

Again, I'm not sure that all of humanity having a common burden is unjust or just. It IS.

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#454990 Jun 21, 2013
thanks be unto God that no matter how much we(she) fail, He still loves her(mary)

of course Jesus never invited her into His revivals and church meetings , after that

she was always outside the gates looking in, with her other children
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#454991 Jun 21, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
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Wrong.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sin_ (mythology)
The Sumerians were around alot earlier than the entymology you use.
I was referring to how the Christians took the word sin from "archery" and replaced it with meanings of evil.

Words have a very LONG corrupted history.

And of course to brag that a god spoke in someone's ear was corruption from the beginning, as that was also only some nitwit's THEORY.
OldJG

Rockford, IL

#454992 Jun 21, 2013
Clay wrote:
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Book Chapter and verse that says the Bible is one Book.
Show us Book, chapter and verse that tells us which Books are Biblical?
Sounds like you're another Bible worshiper like Confrint and Preston.
Ironically, y'all been accusing us of idolatry for 3 yrs now and this whole time you were the guilty ones!
Cly, if we drew you a picture you still would not understand. Why? Here is why.

I Corinthians 1:18, "For the word of the cross is folly to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God."

II Corinthians 2:15, "For we are the aroma of Christ to God among those who are being saved and among those who are perishing,"


II Corinthians 4:3, "And even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing."


II Thessalonians 2:10, " and with all wicked deception for those who are perishing, because they refused to love the truth and so be saved."
Anthony MN

Saint Paul, MN

#454993 Jun 21, 2013
Dust Storm wrote:
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No she was just a highly favoured bad Mother. lol
"It is permissible, on Greek grammatical and linguistic grounds, to paraphrase kecharitomene as completely, perfectly, enduringly endowed with grace." (Blass and DeBrunner, Greek Grammar of the New Testament).
However, Luke 1:28 uses a special conjugated form of "charitoo." It uses "kecharitomene," while Ephesians 1:6 uses "echaritosen," which is a different form of the verb "charitoo." Echaritosen means "he graced" (or bestowed grace). Echaritosen signifies a momentary action, an action brought to pass (Blass and DeBrunner, Greek Grammar of the New Testament, p. 166). Whereas, Kecharitomene, the perfect passive participle, shows a completeness with a permanent result. Kecharitomene denotes continuance of a completed action (H. W. Smyth, Greek Grammar [Harvard Univ Press, 1968], p. 108-109, sec 1852:b; also Blass and DeBrunner, p. 175).
Preston is an idiot but have fun arguing with him and the rest of these snakes. Protestants in here go to great lengths to smear Mary I guess that is there way of interpeting she shall be called blessed. They will continue to lie that the church teaches she did not need a saviour no matter how many times you show them its not the case. You cannot teach the blind who willfully lie.
St. Paul ain't got nothin' on Preston the Prophet...
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#454994 Jun 21, 2013
Clay wrote:
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Are you saying you have the Holy Ghost in you?
From your right-fighting stance, would that be a Jewish ghost, or a Catholic ghost?

:)

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#454995 Jun 21, 2013
who="Dan"
Let me know what Catholic confirmation really means, then.
I'm all ears, KM.

**********
That is a dare; you are Catholic. You don't need anyone to explain it to you.

KM
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#454996 Jun 21, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
thanks be unto God that no matter how much we(she) fail, He still loves her(mary)
of course Jesus never invited her into His revivals and church meetings , after that
she was always outside the gates looking in, with her other children
OH That Mary!!!... she was "something else."

:)
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>

My Madonna

I haled me a woman from the street
Shameless, but, oh, so fair!
I bade her sit in the model’s seat
And I painted her sitting there.

I hid all trace of her heart unclean;
I painted a babe at her breast;
I painted her as she might have been
If the Worst had been the Best.

She laughed at my picture and went away.
Then came, with a knowing nod,
A connoisseur, and I heard him say;
“‘Tis Mary, the Mother of God.”

So I painted a halo round her head,
And I sold her and took my fee,
And she hangs in the church of Saint Hillaire,
Where you and all may see.

Robert Service.
rosesz

Pompano Beach, FL

#454997 Jun 21, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>then go set at that table and enjoy that bread that they ate that day. as for ALL Christians, when we partake, it is because we obey His Word and do that in remembrance of Him as He again SAID. We are not able to go to His Table and eat with HIM(that is reserved for us later) and partake of that Bread physically, therefore it must be Spiritually discerned as to what He meant and you sure don't know.
I think and know that Jesus is My Savior, however I do think that YOU are pathetic
In reading both posts it occurs to me finally the res difference.

Non Catholics eat the bread and wine IN REMEMBRANCE. While telling what Jesus said at the Passover

Catholics say the words AS THE. REMEMBRANCE. Of what He did and then eat the host which they believe are transformed BY THE WORDS.

I have to wonder at what point the early Christians ...made that distinction???

I honestly do nit see them going into houses ..eating dinner and telling non believers they were accmtualky cindumkng flesh and blood...especially Jewish converts.

SOMETHING changed somewhere ..imo
Clay

Lawrence, MA

#454998 Jun 21, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
thanks be unto God that no matter how much we(she) fail, He still loves her(mary)
of course Jesus never invited her into His revivals and church meetings , after that
she was always outside the gates looking in, with her other children
Lol. Wow Preston, you really show who you are sometimes.

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