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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 673155 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#454876 Jun 21, 2013
If I was an all-powerful creator, I would light a fire to ALL religious literature ... and then wait to see what humans would have on their agendas to fight about next.

And while I was watching the flames die to embers, I would wonder why I ever created Adam and Eve in the first place.

Religion is BUNK!

Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#454877 Jun 21, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
957
<quoted text>
That changes not the truth: I don't see evidence that the Catholics ever used, or are presently using, any Syriac version of the Bible..
And I remember not "throwing out charitoo"...please refresh my memory...
What you post is always true. It must be, because YOU wrote it.
truth

Huntingdale, Australia

#454878 Jun 21, 2013
muslim say some words alali halali=forgivness

see words
try play words
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#454879 Jun 21, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
958
<quoted text>
You can be full of grace past your eyeballs...but that does not mean you are sinless, a clean vessel, a virgin evermore, have been immaculated (new word) concepted (new word)...
Per the Greek word that is translated into "grace"...
charis: graciousness (as gratifying), of manner or act (abstract or concrete; literal, figurative or spiritual; especially the divine influence upon the heart, and its reflection in the life; including gratitude):--acceptable, benefit, favour, gift, grace(- ious), joy, liberality, pleasure, thank(-s,-worthy).
Add the word "full" in front of any of these definitions...and you will see the truth that you cannot accept...
The only other person described in the bible as "full of Grace" using the Greek word "kecharitomene" is Jesus.

Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#454880 Jun 21, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
I will ask my former
question
HOW DO YOU SEPARATE GOD FROM HIS WORD?
IF YOU HAVE NO ANSWER ...THEN ...YOUR ABOVE STATEMENT IS MOOT.
Preston IS RIGHT ON...
What you post is true. There now ... doesn't that make you PROUD!

:)

“Credulity is not a virtue”

Since: Apr 09

San Francisco

#454881 Jun 21, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
who=" Anthony MN"
I wouldn't worship either. Are you of the same mindset as Preston? Has the bible become your idol?
**********
God I worship...but I am SO grateful for His Word that He has given us, and EXTREMELY grateful that He has allowed us the privilege to READ/study what He has to say.
KayMarie
It's odd that this omnipotent deity can only seem to communicate with humans via Iron Age technology. You'd think that it could simply communicate with everyone directly. And yet everything is filtered through humans who purport to speak for it. Come to think of it, that's how most other religions work too.

Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#454882 Jun 21, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
<quoted text>
The Church does not go line-by-line infallibly interpreting the bible. Here's a good explanation;
Rom. 3:23 - Some Protestants use this verse "all have sinned" in an attempt to prove that Mary was also with sin. But "all have sinned " only means that all are subject to original sin. Mary was spared from original sin by God, not herself. The popular analogy is God let us fall in the mud puddle, and cleaned us up afterward through baptism. In Mary's case, God did not let her enter the mud puddle.
Rom. 3:23 - "all have sinned" also refers only to those able to commit sin. This is not everyone. For example, infants, the retarded, and the senile cannot sin.
Rom. 3:23 - finally, "all have sinned," but Jesus must be an exception to this rule. This means that Mary can be an exception as well. Note that the Greek word for all is "pantes."
1 Cor. 15:22 - in Adam all ("pantes") have died, and in Christ all ("pantes") shall live. This proves that "all" does not mean "every single one." This is because not all have died (such as Enoch and Elijah who were taken up to heaven), and not all will go to heaven (because Jesus said so).
Rom. 5:12 - Paul says that death spread to all ("pantes") men. Again, this proves that "all" does not mean "every single one" because death did not spread to all men (as we have seen with Enoch and Elijah).
Rom. 5:19 - here Paul says "many (not all) were made sinners." Paul uses "polloi," not "pantes." Is Paul contradicting what he said in Rom. 3:23? Of course not. Paul means that all are subject to original sin, but not all reject God.
Rom. 3:10-11 - Protestants also use this verse to prove that all human beings are sinful and thus Mary must be sinful. But see Psalm 14 which is the basis of the verse.
Psalm 14 - this psalm does not teach that all humans are sinful. It only teaches that, among the wicked, all are sinful. The righteous continue to seek God.
Psalm 53:1-3 - "there is none that does good" expressly refers to those who have fallen away. Those who remain faithful do good, and Jesus calls such faithful people "good."
Luke 18:19 - Jesus says, "No one is good but God alone." But then in Matt. 12:35, Jesus also says "The good man out of his good treasure..." So Jesus says no one is good but God, and then calls another person good.
Rom. 9:11 - God distinguished between Jacob and Esau in the womb, before they sinned. Mary was also distinguished from the rest of humanity in the womb by being spared by God from original sin.
Luke 1:47 - Mary calls God her Savior. Some Protestants use this to denigrate Mary. Why? Of course God is Mary's Savior! She was freed from original sin in the womb (unlike us who are freed from sin outside of the womb), but needed a Savior as much as the rest of humanity.
Luke 1:48 - Mary calls herself lowly. But any creature is lowly compared to God. For example, in Matt. 11:29, even Jesus says He is lowly in heart. Lowliness is a sign of humility, which is the greatest virtue of holiness, because it allows us to empty ourselves and receive the grace of God to change our sinful lives.
http://www.scripturecatholic.com/
What you post is all truth straight from the same god who idolizes you and these words.

Doesn't that make you proud of your self???

Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#454883 Jun 21, 2013
Biblical word-handlers are a very proud lot of animals.

They never cease to amaze their selves concerning their own "knowledge" and abilities to know the truth.

You don't even have to ask them. They will shove scriptures into your face at will, and humbly admit that it is not their words they promote. They are just god's most holy servants who by the way don't agree about what the god has ordained them to preach.

:)
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#454884 Jun 21, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
I will ask my former
question
HOW DO YOU SEPARATE GOD FROM HIS WORD?
IF YOU HAVE NO ANSWER ...THEN ...YOUR ABOVE STATEMENT IS MOOT.
Preston IS RIGHT ON...
You cannot seperate God from the Word which is Jesus, His Son. The leather bound paper and ink you hold in your hands is not God. If it is, you should be bowing down to and worshipping it without ceasing.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#454885 Jun 21, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
aCCORDING TO THE BIBLE Preston is right...
Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and
-->the Word was with God, and
-->the Word was God.
Joh 1:2 The same was in the beginning with God.
If you were Born again you would have no problem discerning the truth
BUT
JESUS SAID
Joh 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot
see know:- be aware, behold, X can (+ not tell), consider,(have) known (-ledge), look (on), perceive, see, be sure, tell, understand, wist, wot. Compare G3700.
the kingdom of God.
SINCE YOU HAVE NEVER BEEN BORN AGAIN YOU LIVE IN DARKNESS OF THE MIND...
~~~~
Rom 8:6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
Rom 8:7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
Rom 8:8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
Rom 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
Rom 8:10 And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.
Rom 8:11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.
Rom 8:12 Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh.
Rom 8:13 For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.
~~~

YOUR FIRST WORKS IS TO BE OBEDIENT TO GOD'S WORD...

AS JESUS ANSWERED ...WHEN ASK

Joh 6:28 Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God?

Joh 6:29 Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.

~~~

Rom 10:8 But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;

Rom 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

Rom 10:10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

Rom 10:11 For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.

Rom 10:12 For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.

Rom 10:13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#454886 Jun 21, 2013
wilderide wrote:
<quoted text>
It's odd that this omnipotent deity can only seem to communicate with humans via Iron Age technology. You'd think that it could simply communicate with everyone directly. And yet everything is filtered through humans who purport to speak for it. Come to think of it, that's how most other religions work too.
Religions all works on the same "principle." Some ape-man was certain that a god gave him absolute truth ... and he and his fellow ape-like creatures passed that message on through symbols, until finally written words took hold ... and we have the mess that exists today.

Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#454887 Jun 21, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
<quoted text>
You cannot seperate God from the Word which is Jesus, His Son. The leather bound paper and ink you hold in your hands is not God. If it is, you should be bowing down to and worshipping it without ceasing.
You're absolutely right ... but only from your own point of view.
truth

Huntingdale, Australia

#454888 Jun 21, 2013
see words port=sport s=$port p or t
try look in words invest=nevi s t s=$t
in
an en in on un

did you see t=up paund=money see t=turn up=pound
Which side going your hair?
Whats deference going up..or right or left?
I know that you read.
You liked put me on joke.

I told you someone have more in finger than in head=ID.
I told you someone have more in heart and mind then any beauty worthy on this Earth.
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#454889 Jun 21, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
aCCORDING TO THE BIBLE Preston is right...
Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and
-->the Word was with God, and
-->the Word was God.
Joh 1:2 The same was in the beginning with God.
If you were Born again you would have no problem discerning the truth
BUT
JESUS SAID
Joh 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot
see know:- be aware, behold, X can (+ not tell), consider,(have) known (-ledge), look (on), perceive, see, be sure, tell, understand, wist, wot. Compare G3700.
the kingdom of God.
SINCE YOU HAVE NEVER BEEN BORN AGAIN YOU LIVE IN DARKNESS OF THE MIND...
~~~~
Rom 8:6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
Rom 8:7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
Rom 8:8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
Rom 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
Rom 8:10 And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.
Rom 8:11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.
Rom 8:12 Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh.
Rom 8:13 For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.
Jesus is the Word, not your leather bound KJV.

None of these verses say the bible is God. You can try and smoke screen people with hundreds of scripture passages, that might work with dim-witted hayseeds, but not me. Sorry.
Dan

Omaha, NE

#454890 Jun 21, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
957
<quoted text>
That changes not the truth: I don't see evidence that the Catholics ever used, or are presently using, any Syriac version of the Bible..
And I remember not "throwing out charitoo"...please refresh my memory...
I'm not sure what's with the "Yoda" syntax all of a sudden ("I remember not..."), but throw it out you did.

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Oxbow wrote:

937
<quoted text>
You did no such thing!!!!
Strong's Greek lexicon...
Highly favoured: caritow charitoo, khar-ee-to'-o to grace, i.e. indue with special honor:--make accepted, be highly favoured.

Read more at http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/catholic/...
ReginaM

Bloomfield, NJ

#454891 Jun 21, 2013
LTM wrote:
<quoted text>
Regina is one of the most dishonest poster on this thread.
She is an expert at trying to put words in your mouth.
assuming its what you are thinking or actual said.
Your right she is delusional.
You know, you keep making these slanderous statements about me, but you've yet to back them up with any proof. Show me exactly where I've put words into anyone's mouth, or else shut yours.
You've said these same words about almost every Catholic on this board at one point or another. You're a well-known gossiper and a detractor, LTM. I'm sorry for you.

Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#454892 Jun 21, 2013
The Jewish apostle Peter was supposedly one of Jesus followers. Why on earth would he be preaching Christianity, if Jesus was one and the same with his father who was the god of the Jews???

You can see the lies, and if you don't, the onus is on you!
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>

Signs & Symbols in Christian Art

The Saints

St. Peter

At the pleas of his Christian followers, the Apostle agreed to flee the city
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#454893 Jun 21, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
What you post is all truth straight from the same god who idolizes you and these words.
Doesn't that make you proud of your self???
Not trying to be rude June, but I find you to be a tremendous bore. If you'd like like to have a personable discussion, let me know.

Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#454894 Jun 21, 2013
ReginaM wrote:
<quoted text>
You know, you keep making these slanderous statements about me, but you've yet to back them up with any proof. Show me exactly where I've put words into anyone's mouth, or else shut yours.
You've said these same words about almost every Catholic on this board at one point or another. You're a well-known gossiper and a detractor, LTM. I'm sorry for you.
You are absolutely right ... according to your own opinion.

Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#454895 Jun 21, 2013
Dan wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm not sure what's with the "Yoda" syntax all of a sudden ("I remember not..."), but throw it out you did.
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Oxbow wrote:
937
<quoted text>
You did no such thing!!!!
Strong's Greek lexicon...
Highly favoured: caritow charitoo, khar-ee-to'-o to grace, i.e. indue with special honor:--make accepted, be highly favoured.
Read more at http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/catholic/...
You are absolutely on the track of truth ... according to your own opinion.

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