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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 665403 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

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#454490 Jun 20, 2013
Dan wrote:
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Seems abundantly clear.
"5 Jesus answered,“Very truly I tell you, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless they are born of water and the Spirit."
You do understand the meaning of "water" in this case is don't you?
It isn't referring to "baptism by water(H 2 0)"...

“GOD SO LOVED US”

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He Gave His SON,JESUS Christ

#454491 Jun 20, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>lol, just WHO do you think was speaking in that [burning bush]. it was the WORD and the WORD is jesus.
On any one

When the Old Testament speaks,of the Angel of the Lord...ie visits,Sarai and Abram..

Is that Jesus???

Not Gabriel visiting Mary

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

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#454492 Jun 20, 2013
LTM wrote:
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I had a cat for almost 16 years, he died in my arms as well at home. Vet told me to give him Gravol to keep him quiet till I got him to the vets, he died at 7am the next morning.
This kitty is 13, they become such a part of your life.
I am going to miss her.
Sorry LTM...I understand how you feel...pets are much like kin...sometimes better in some ways.

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

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#454493 Jun 20, 2013
Dan wrote:
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Necessary to "enter the Kingdom of God".
You guys can be so silly sometimes. You don't even understand your own god nor what his words mean.
This argument is a perfect example.
ReginaM

Bloomfield, NJ

#454494 Jun 20, 2013
Hermeneutics Smutics wrote:
<quoted text>Hi Regina,
The Orthodox Church teaches that Mary died a natural death, like any human being; that her soul was received by Christ upon death; and that her body was resurrected on the third day after her repose, at which time she was taken up, bodily only, into heaven. Her tomb was found empty on the third day.
Roman Catholic teaching holds that Mary was "assumed" into heaven in bodily form, just as her son Jesus ascended.
Some Catholics agree with the Orthodox that this happened after Mary's death, while some hold that she did not experience death.
Pope Pius XII, in his Apostolic constitution, Munificentissimus Deus (1950), which dogmatically defined the Assumption, left open the question of whether or not Mary actually underwent death in connection with her departure, but alludes to the fact of her death at least five times.
However, during a General Audience on 25 June 1997, Pope John Paul II affirmed that Mary did indeed experience natural death prior to her assumption into Heaven.
THE POPE STATED:
It is true that in Revelation death is presented as a punishment for sin. However, the fact that the Church proclaims Mary free from original sin by a unique divine privilege does not lead to the conclusion that she also received physical immortality. The Mother is not superior to the Son who underwent death, giving it a new meaning and changing it into a means of salvation. Involved in Christ’s redemptive work and associated in his saving sacrifice, Mary was able to share in his suffering and death for the sake of humanity’s Redemption. What Severus of Antioch says about Christ also applies to her:“Without a preliminary death, how could the Resurrection have taken place?”(Antijulianistica, Beirut 1931, 194f.). To share in Christ’s Resurrection, Mary had first to share in his death. The New Testament provides no information on the circumstances of Mary’s death. This silence leads one to suppose that it happened naturally, with no detail particularly worthy of mention. If this were not the case, how could the information about it have remained hidden from her contemporaries and not have been passed down to us in some way? As to the cause of Mary’s death, the opinions that wish to exclude her from death by natural causes seem groundless. It is more important to look for the Blessed Virgin’s spiritual attitude at the moment of her departure from this world. In this regard, St Francis de Sales maintains that Mary’s death was due to a transport of love. He speaks of a dying “in love, from love and through love”, going so far as to say that the Mother of God died of love for her Son Jesus (Treatise on the Love of God, bk. 7, ch. XIII-XIV).
Whatever from the physical point of view was the organic, biological cause of the end of her bodily life, it can be said that for Mary the passage from this life to the next was the full development of grace in glory, so that no death can ever be so fittingly described as a “dormition” as hers."
Hi, Aretha 123, I thought you'd like it!

Yes, that's what I said, it didn't change. We were taught that the Blessed Mother died. We're well aware that at times there's a difference in theology between Catholic and Orthodox teaching on the same dogma, but usually not quite as different as you like to make out. I've also seen plenty of misinformation about Catholic teaching on Orthodox sites. It's a shame. The Orthodox I've known in the past were not haters, but then there are some in every group. I think you had a run in with a group of Catholics who wouldn't touch the Orthodox with a ten-foot pole. We do consider you schismatics, you broke from the Church, not the other way around, but some people take it too far and seethe with hatred. What a pity, huh?

“What are you looking at?”

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Albuquerque, NM

#454495 Jun 20, 2013
Regina wrote:
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Why would you call him or anyone a joke? You sound like a little baby stamping your feet. Why don't you just do as he asks and provide some proof from Church teaching that what you're saying is true?
As always - the "Church" hasn't been defined completely, so your use of the term is inadequate.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#454496 Jun 20, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>lol, just WHO do you think was speaking in that [burning bush]. it was the WORD and the WORD is jesus.
It was "aliens".

;o)

BTW - that is why Moses' hair turned all white - he was subjected to radiation.

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

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#454497 Jun 20, 2013
Dan wrote:
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I was more trustworthy than you.
You insisted that they DIDN'T have a fish fry.
Sometimes folks git's fish fry's confused with witch burnings.
You can tell by the smell which is which though.

“What are you looking at?”

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Albuquerque, NM

#454498 Jun 20, 2013
Black Thunder 42 wrote:
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You guys can be so silly sometimes. You don't even understand your own god nor what his words mean.
This argument is a perfect example.
.....because they refuse to learn.

Self.

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

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#454499 Jun 20, 2013
Seraphima wrote:
<quoted text>Now how would I know if that church had a fish fry...
Lisren sis---I think the cathaholic church don't like ta have "fish frys" cause the blind folks gits the place confused wit the local house id ill repute...causes a bit of embarrasment--ya know what I mean?

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#454500 Jun 20, 2013
RoSesz wrote:
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On any one
When the Old Testament speaks,of the Angel of the Lord...ie visits,Sarai and Abram..
Is that Jesus???
Not Gabriel visiting Mary
oftimes the Hebrew writers would use that word [angel]and it would refer to jesus also. but when the actual name of the angel is used, then it is who the Bible says it is

look at the great wrestling match, it speaks of an angel, yet he speaks of it being God.Genesis 32:24-32

therefore the Word Malach could mean a messenger or a supernatural being.

take into consideration that the jewish people have a very difficult time excepting Jesus as their Messiah.

thanks for asking.

Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#454501 Jun 20, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
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IT IS BECAUSE OF FAITH IN GOD AND THE FULFILLING OF THE WORD'S OF THE BIBLE THAT MY WIFE IS ALIVE..
...
You arrogant fool! That statement implies that all the other men who prayed that their wives would live, and yet the wives died had THEIR prayers ignored by the same supposed god.

You people and your religions are so gluttonous to be the center of attention that you throw all others under the bus.

YUCK!
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#454502 Jun 20, 2013
Seraphima wrote:
Bartholomew...does not speak for the Bishops,Priest,and People who hold the REAL POWER of the Orthodox Church.he has ONE VOTE at the Bishops Synod
Bartholomew isn't alone by any means. I'm sorry you feel the way you do Sera.

“GOD SO LOVED US”

Since: Aug 08

He Gave His SON,JESUS Christ

#454503 Jun 20, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>what am I leaving out? I mentioned that the words "full of grace" are only mentioned twice in the NT and I gave the Books where they might be found.
again in the Book of Acts(concerning Steve) and in John concerning Jesus. may is never mentioned in that type of respect.
NEVER did mary ever give a testimony such as steven gave, nor did she live the life of Jesus. I never read that she ever laid hands on someone and they were healed. HAVE YOU? she had NO fruits such as the Apostles conveyed to people.
all she did was leave he young child alone in a large city. those fruits don't qualify her to b e "full of grace", in leaving Him, she qualifies as a disgrace according to our times and our Laws.
mary was a mortal woman, nothing special about her, she just happened to have had the correct bloodlines which made her available to God to use as a surrogate mother and so God used her in that fashion.
and I think God that in spite of her failure, he sanctified her with the Holy Ghost on the 50 th Day.
You don't think she was,saved before Pentecost?? HIS,OWN mother.
She was,with Him at least part of His ministry.

She knew who He was..And I don't think she thought Him crazy..his brothers and sisters may have..But not her..She knew who He was.

And,we,have no idea what they ever talked about BEFIRE He started,His ministry. She knew in the best way a woman if that time coukd comprehend ..She most likely knew that He might face danger but nit that He woukd be crucified or why.

But she had to believe He was,holy and sent from GOD.

And it is more than likely He saved her first. Imo

Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#454504 Jun 20, 2013
jethro8 wrote:
<quoted text>what do I complain about exactly??
In that post I was joking with you.

“GOD SO LOVED US”

Since: Aug 08

He Gave His SON,JESUS Christ

#454505 Jun 20, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>oftimes the Hebrew writers would use that word [angel]and it would refer to jesus also. but when the actual name of the angel is used, then it is who the Bible says it is
look at the great wrestling match, it speaks of an angel, yet he speaks of it being God.Genesis 32:24-32
therefore the Word Malach could mean a messenger or a supernatural being.
take into consideration that the jewish people have a very difficult time excepting Jesus as their Messiah.
thanks for asking.
I don't know where I read it but it seems as if the Angel of the Lord meant Jesus..though of course the Hebrews did not know Him as,such.
Roberta G

Chicago, IL

#454506 Jun 20, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
921 939
Dan.....why no response?????
Dan wrote:
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Here.
I was baptized, which remitted my original sin and joined me to the Kingdom of God.
Good one, huh?
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Ah said: All Catholics are sprinkled with water as babies.....according to what you are saying....that makes all Catholics Saved....it don't get more simple than that!!!!!
How do you square that with:
For we are saved by hope: but hope that is seen is not hope: for what a man seeth, why doth he yet hope for?
How can a baby "hope"?
By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.
How can a baby keep in memory what has been preached to it???
Through the power and grace of God. Through the Holy Spirit, you dummy.

Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#454507 Jun 20, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
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Move past the words and understand their meanings.
People take their own meanings to words and then they are often certain that they have a clear and concise vision of truth.
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >

The Use and Misuse of Language … edited by S. I. Hayakawa.

General semanticists know it is hard to make the average person realize that he brings meaning to the word, that the word does not contain any meaning.
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#454508 Jun 20, 2013
Seraphima wrote:
<quoted text>take your own advise Tony before you leacture me about hatred.
I harbor no hatred for the Orthodox. Half of my relatives are Orthodox, and we love and respect each other's Church. Your feelings about my Church are the exact opposite of how they feel. I'm not lecturing you, I'm trying to help you deal with your obvious animosities. It's unhealthy.

Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#454509 Jun 20, 2013
jethro8 wrote:
The professor turns to face the student, obviously interested. The room suddenly becomes very quiet. The student begins to explain.'You can have lots of heat, even more heat, super-heat, mega-heat, unlimited heat, white heat, a little heat or no heat, but we don't have anything called 'cold'. We can hit down to 458 degrees below zero, which is no heat, but we can't go any further after that. There is no such thing as cold; otherwise we would be able to go colder than the lowest -458 degrees. Every body or object is susceptible to study when it has or transmits energy, and heat is what makes a body or matter have or transmit energy.. Absolute zero (-458 F) is the total absence of heat. You see, sir, cold is only a word we use to describe the absence of heat. We cannot measure cold. Heat we can measure in
thermal units because heat is energy. Cold is not the opposite of
heat, sir, just the absence of it.'
Silence across the room. A pen drops somewhere in the classroom, sounding like a hammer
You claim that evil is the absence of God ... but that can't be the case if the god CREATED evil ... RIGHT???

It's not nice to only use half of scripture that you find pleasing to your emotions.

Not honest either.

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