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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 665354 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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Dan

Omaha, NE

#454245 Jun 19, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
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Show Scripture that says she was an exception...you can't...because she was a sinner...she was thankful for her Savior..per Scripture...sinless people do not need a Savior...
My bet stands...you will play your "tradition" card...to trump Scripture.....that is what I call trashing the Bible...
And Mary said, My soul doth magnify the Lord,
And my spirit hath rejoiced in God my Saviour.
I responded already RE: her being an exception. Even gave you the Greek.

Mary was "saved" from sin in a different manner. She was given the grace to be "saved" completely from sin so that she never committed even the slightest transgression. Scripture indicates that salvation can also refer to man being protected from sinning before the fact.

'Now to him who is able to keep you from falling and to present you without blemish before the presence of his glory with rejoicing, to the only God, our Savior through Jesus Christ our Lord, be glory, majesty, dominion, and authority, before all time and now and for ever.(Jude 24-25)'

thanks
OldJG

Rockford, IL

#454246 Jun 19, 2013
Dan wrote:
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What do you think the water's for?
The "water" here doesn't refer to childbirth.
"Unless one is born, then born of the spirit....."
How would one BE born of the spirit unless they'd been born in the first place?
Just goes to show you the lengths people will go to waterboard the Bible trying to explain why they don't believe Jesus.
Sad.
What is the water for? Duh. The water here does not refer to child birth. Really? How could it be referring to baptism when baptism had not yet been initiated? Baptism began with Jesus baptism for Christians. So please explain about the water being for something that did not exist as yet. Come on man, your a Roman Catholic, right? Well make up something then. You know, like your popes do. LOL LOL LOL

Since: Apr 07

Location hidden

#454247 Jun 19, 2013
LTM wrote:
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LOL not all Jethro, but their are a few in each group.
My cat is not doing well, I have to put her down.
she has lost use of her back legs.
I hate this .
Oh, LTM, I am so very sorry. I've had to make that painful decision. You know you're going to miss your sweetie, but of course you can't allow her to suffer.

I am convinced our beloved pets WILL be with us in heaven, LTM. In the meantime, my sincerest sympathies to you.
Dan

Omaha, NE

#454248 Jun 19, 2013
OldJG wrote:
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What is the water for? Duh. The water here does not refer to child birth. Really? How could it be referring to baptism when baptism had not yet been initiated? Baptism began with Jesus baptism for Christians. So please explain about the water being for something that did not exist as yet. Come on man, your a Roman Catholic, right? Well make up something then. You know, like your popes do. LOL LOL LOL
Um, Jesus was baptized.

Luke 3:21-22

Miss that?
Dan

Omaha, NE

#454249 Jun 19, 2013
OldJG wrote:
<quoted text>
What is the water for? Duh. The water here does not refer to child birth. Really? How could it be referring to baptism when baptism had not yet been initiated? Baptism began with Jesus baptism for Christians. So please explain about the water being for something that did not exist as yet. Come on man, your a Roman Catholic, right? Well make up something then. You know, like your popes do. LOL LOL LOL
Luke 3:21-22

Still laughing?

I am.
truth

Huntingdale, Australia

#454250 Jun 19, 2013
deceiver is deceiver
why?
they pray thy kingdom come how in heaven have to be on earth..
now explain who posses kingdom..deceiver..
why you pray for kingdom where deceiver know everything..

i told you
you stay in circle where evil is evillllllllllllllll
you reject real Creator spit every day over your real creator
you stay in evil circle
truth

Huntingdale, Australia

#454251 Jun 19, 2013
sin go first in then out of person..in both direction
evil is evil..perfection which Lucifer watching but fall..
Dan

Omaha, NE

#454252 Jun 19, 2013
OldJG wrote:
<quoted text>
What is the water for? Duh. The water here does not refer to child birth. Really? How could it be referring to baptism when baptism had not yet been initiated? Baptism began with Jesus baptism for Christians. So please explain about the water being for something that did not exist as yet. Come on man, your a Roman Catholic, right? Well make up something then. You know, like your popes do. LOL LOL LOL
Does "JG" stand for "just goofy"?
truth

Huntingdale, Australia

#454253 Jun 19, 2013
they told you sinners of Adam and Eva its going trough your ancestors..

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#454254 Jun 19, 2013
Dan wrote:
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I responded already RE: her being an exception. Even gave you the Greek.
Mary was "saved" from sin in a different manner. She was given the grace to be "saved" completely from sin so that she never committed even the slightest transgression. Scripture indicates that salvation can also refer to man being protected from sinning before the fact.
'Now to him who is able to keep you from falling and to present you without blemish before the presence of his glory with rejoicing, to the only God, our Savior through Jesus Christ our Lord, be glory, majesty, dominion, and authority, before all time and now and for ever.(Jude 24-25)'
thanks
That is what is being regurgitated by the vatacan, and you have swallowed it and said "That was tasty"...it is not based on Scripture...

Show Scripture that says she was an exception...you can't...because she was a sinner...she was thankful for her Savior..per Scripture...sinless people do not need a Savior...

My bet stands...you will play your "tradition" card...to trump Scripture.....that is what I call trashing the Bible...

And Mary said, My soul doth magnify the Lord,
And my spirit hath rejoiced in God my Saviour.

BTW...Jude 1:24-25 has nothing to do with Mary!!!!!

Dan

Omaha, NE

#454255 Jun 19, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
<quoted text>
That is what is being regurgitated by the vatacan, and you have swallowed it and said "That was tasty"...it is not based on Scripture...
Show Scripture that says she was an exception...you can't...because she was a sinner...she was thankful for her Savior..per Scripture...sinless people do not need a Savior...
My bet stands...you will play your "tradition" card...to trump Scripture.....that is what I call trashing the Bible...
And Mary said, My soul doth magnify the Lord,
And my spirit hath rejoiced in God my Saviour.
BTW...Jude 1:24-25 has nothing to do with Mary!!!!!
Luke 1:28 indicates that she was an exception. Again, for the third time, you even got the Greek on it.

It's there. Your agreement with it doesn't determine whether it's in there or not.

Jude 1 24:25 is a doxology. It's not specific to anyone, and applies to everyone. Again, it's in scripture, and it doesn't require your approval for it to be scriptural.

So, to recap, my points have been fortified by scripture, with your response being "it's not there" when it IS, and "it doesn't mean that" when you aren't in position to tell me nor anyone else what scripture means.

I'll take the point here.

Thanks
Orville

Vancouver, WA

#454256 Jun 19, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
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Peter was not the exclusive recipient of the Keys...
all the disciples ( students of Jesus) with the apostles received THE
SAME KEYS..
WHY IS IT THAT ONLY PETER... HAS BEEN SINGLED OUT...
BY THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH .
DID JESUS LIE WHEN SAID TO ALL HIS DISCIPLES?
Joh 20:20 And when he had so said, he shewed unto them his hands and his side. Then were the disciples glad, when they saw the Lord.
Joh 20:21 Then said Jesus to them again, Peace be unto you: as my Father hath sent me, even so send I you.
Joh 20:22 And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and saith unto them, Receive ye the Holy Ghost:
NOTE
Joh 20:23 Whose soever sins ye remit, they are remitted unto them; and whose soever sins ye retain, they are retained.
AMEN, Good points. The truth,
Dan

Omaha, NE

#454257 Jun 19, 2013
Orville wrote:
<quoted text>AMEN, Good points. The truth,
It's nonsense.

Why "AMEN" something that's not correct?

He gave Peter the keys. Only Peter.

Says it right there.

16 Simon Peter answered,“You are the Messiah, the Son of the living God.”

17 Jesus replied,“Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah, for this was not revealed to you by flesh and blood, but by my Father in heaven. 18 And I tell you that you are Peter,[b] and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades[c] will not overcome it. 19 I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; whatever you bind on earth will be[d] bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be[e] loosed in heaven.”

English IS your primary language, I assume.

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#454258 Jun 19, 2013
Dan wrote:
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Um, Jesus was baptized.
Luke 3:21-22
Miss that?
you miss what that Baptism of Johns was for. it never made them a Christian since Jesus had not died yet.

read what John said about his Baptism and learn something.

anyway, every person saved in the NT was given the Holy Ghost before they were baptised in water.

the men of epheus were just like you Dan and all catholics, they were baptised yet no knew nothing about the Holy Ghost.

feel free to change what God has given us through His Word, if you dare. I DONT!!

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#454259 Jun 19, 2013
Dan wrote:
<quoted text>
Um, Jesus was baptized.
Luke 3:21-22
Miss that?
so was Mary, after she received the Holy Ghost in the Upper Room, along with her other children.
truth

Huntingdale, Australia

#454260 Jun 19, 2013
Who stay in this life they will call modern then saints..
I told you..Great is who is within you!..Do you sold your soul to whom?

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#454261 Jun 19, 2013
Dan wrote:
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Luke 1:28 indicates that she was an exception. Again, for the third time, you even got the Greek on it.
It's there. Your agreement with it doesn't determine whether it's in there or not.
Jude 1 24:25 is a doxology. It's not specific to anyone, and applies to everyone. Again, it's in scripture, and it doesn't require your approval for it to be scriptural.
So, to recap, my points have been fortified by scripture, with your response being "it's not there" when it IS, and "it doesn't mean that" when you aren't in position to tell me nor anyone else what scripture means.
I'll take the point here.
Thanks
The Bible says all have sinned and come short of the glory of God...you acknowledge that as being true.

You have been fed swill, from the vatacan, that says Mary was sinless, was born sinless, and remains a virgin evermore. You swallowed it and enjoyed it...

There is no Scripture to support these lies....you know it...because you have proven it...you have shown me no Scripture that teaches any such thing...

A Christian, per Scripture, is one who follows the teaching of Christ...there is no record in the Bible that shows Christ ever taught Mary was sinless...a virgin evermore...nor born sinless....yet you accept the teaching of your pope, that has no basis in Scripture, over the Word of God...

So...what does that make you????

And...there is no Greek word in Luke 1:28, in the NABre, that is translated to mean "full of Grace"....you are lying when you say there is...

Prove me wrong...

Dan

Omaha, NE

#454262 Jun 19, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>you miss what that Baptism of Johns was for. it never made them a Christian since Jesus had not died yet.
read what John said about his Baptism and learn something.
anyway, every person saved in the NT was given the Holy Ghost before they were baptised in water.
the men of epheus were just like you Dan and all catholics, they were baptised yet no knew nothing about the Holy Ghost.
feel free to change what God has given us through His Word, if you dare. I DONT!!
Actually, the "point" (and I'm using the term in it's loosest form) from OJG I was addressing was why Jesus would have espoused baptism as it hadn't come into existence yet.

I noted that it actually HAD come into existence, and (surprise to OJG, apparently) that Jesus had been baptized.

.....and that was in the Bible.

I hadn't made mention of John the Baptist.
truth

Huntingdale, Australia

#454263 Jun 19, 2013
Dan

Omaha, NE

#454264 Jun 19, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
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The Bible says all have sinned and come short of the glory of God...you acknowledge that as being true.
You have been fed swill, from the vatacan, that says Mary was sinless, was born sinless, and remains a virgin evermore. You swallowed it and enjoyed it...
There is no Scripture to support these lies....you know it...because you have proven it...you have shown me no Scripture that teaches any such thing...
A Christian, per Scripture, is one who follows the teaching of Christ...there is no record in the Bible that shows Christ ever taught Mary was sinless...a virgin evermore...nor born sinless....yet you accept the teaching of your pope, that has no basis in Scripture, over the Word of God...
So...what does that make you????
And...there is no Greek word in Luke 1:28, in the NABre, that is translated to mean "full of Grace"....you are lying when you say there is...
Prove me wrong...
Already gave it to you.

Don't be so desperate, Ox. It's unbecoming, and worse, you're a bore. Everyone on the board who can read (that leaves out a few here) can see that I gave you the Greek a while ago.

Throwing a hissy fit "you are lying" makes you look childish. Your regular posts do enough of that; no need to amplify it just because you're wrong here.

Go to bed, get up, eat a good breakfast and try again tomorrow.

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