Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

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“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

Since: Oct 10

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#453901 Jun 18, 2013
hojo wrote:
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The fact is that you continuously "prove your (own self) wrong" by your constant rejection of Him. For us as Catholic Christians,
GOD is here with us, omnipresent and is real to all of us who choose to follow HIM.......... HE is fully alive, existing and presently among us, for those of us who accept HIM, seek HIM and desire a personal relationship with HIM........ HE constantly reveals HIMSELF to those who seek HIM earnestly, and HIS son Jesus is anointed to make the presence of God (HIS FATHER) real to those who choose to to receive HIM in HIS True body and True Blood, in the eucharist, in and through His One True Apostolic Catholic Church.
If you can't prove ut even exists, there is really nothing to reject is there>!
You are becoming a laughing stock.

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

Since: Oct 10

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#453902 Jun 18, 2013
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
It's proof enough for me as well as the other 1.168 Billion Catholics around the world, including all Catholic and Protestant Christians on this forum......... Sorry--but your rejection of God becomes "your loss"!!!!
It seems you prefer to live in fantasy.
I have to live in reality.
That is the "real" world.---it is called "life" or reality.

You may have a psychologist that will let you swim in your fantasy while I and others chip in to support you, but I am the one who allows and supports your fantasy,,,so don't forget that fact.

Me and others are the ones who keep the "real" world running while you and your fantasizers live in your dream world.
Some day you will have to pay up or die....personally, I don't care which you choose.

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#453903 Jun 18, 2013
Roberta G wrote:
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My apologies, Oxbow. I mistook you for a nice person.
It appears you made the same mistake about me.
hojo

Minneapolis, MN

#453904 Jun 19, 2013
Black Thunder 42 wrote:
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Don't try to spew rhetoric in the name of a deity you can not even prove exists...we will laugh at you as the joke you are......
Ah yes, rhetoric! You my friend are "filled up to the top" with contradicting rhetoric, claiming that "He" will laugh at me when YOU don't even believe in "Him"....... When it comes to contradiction, confusion and chaos, you and June deserve each other!!!
Roberta G

United States

#453905 Jun 19, 2013
Black Thunder 42 wrote:
<quoted text>
It appears you made the same mistake about me.
The mistake is yours, BT. Nobody would EVER mistake you for a nice person.
hojo

Minneapolis, MN

#453906 Jun 19, 2013
Black Thunder 42 wrote:
<quoted text>
If you can't prove ut even exists, there is really nothing to reject is there>!
You are becoming a laughing stock.
Sorry to disappoint you but "that last laugh" is on you Black Thunder, not only because of your own "inability" to prove that God (doesn't) exist, but also because you chose to "reject" HIM and HIS gift of Salvation, faith and eternal life in Jesus Christ, in and through His One True Apostolic Catholic Church.
hojo

Minneapolis, MN

#453907 Jun 19, 2013
Black Thunder 42 wrote:
<quoted text>
It seems you prefer to live in fantasy.
I have to live in reality.
.
I/we as Catholics will continue to live in the TRUE faith and Salvation of Jesus Christ, at Daily Mass, the Sacred Scriptures, the Eucharist,(Christs TRUE body and blood), Baptism, the other Sacraments, and nightly prayer and adoration. You, Black Thunder--"can do what you want"!!!
truth

Perth, Australia

#453908 Jun 19, 2013
i will believe you..if i did not know who first come..fallen one with all his demons and angels..

not real Creator..
nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooo
truth

Perth, Australia

#453909 Jun 19, 2013
Real Creator not going fall.

“HAVE A BLESSED ”

Since: Aug 08

New Year

#453910 Jun 19, 2013
Black Thunder 42 wrote:
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No it's noot.
The title of the thread is that the RCC is the only true church, nithing more nothing less.
If some of you want to turn it into a proselytizing venture, you will be put in your place for it...that is what you are trying to do.
June you will put us in our place???

Dramatic. A touch maybe?

You know you will read about God here. And your book knowledge ..well I for one now,skip over ..it is nit relevant.

Your whole persona tell us you 're angry with the God you dint want to believe in.

But He still love s you and has so much patience..He is waiting with open arms for you to reach out to Him..

So you come around people who talk about Him.. that's,great..show a something may be calling you to be here.

The Matchless name of Our Saviuir Jesus Christ should be on your lips as you pray for peace from y our troubles

“HAVE A BLESSED ”

Since: Aug 08

New Year

#453911 Jun 19, 2013
Black Thunder 42 wrote:
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That's wonderful.
PROVE your deity exists.
Can you see the sunshine.

Can you feel the rain.

How about the,precious love of a baby.

Those are all evidence of God's love

“HAVE A BLESSED ”

Since: Aug 08

New Year

#453912 Jun 19, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
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You are not going to answer me....and both of us know why...it says plain as day that every human being who has the capacity to known their actions or lack of are sins, are sinners.
And we both know that Christians led by the Holy Spirit know that the Word of God says Mary was a sinner...same as you and I...but Catholics ignore this Scripture and teach opposite to it.
This is not a Catholic and a Protestant both being led by the Holy Spirit and disagreeing on Scripture...It is a Catholic trashing the Word of God to follow a false teaching by his religion...and a Christian doing what Christians do...follow the teaching of Christ.
You want another??? How about Mary being taken unto wife by Joseph, per Scripture, and the idiotic teaching that she remained a virgin???!!!!
Ox

I have come to believe the things of Mary ..what difference does it make to your own belief..what they believe.

Do you really think A,CATHOLIC is going to change how they feel about her from words on a forum?

All of these, questions will be answered in heaven..as long as they believe that Salvation comes through Jesus Christ..They and you can ask Him and speak to His mother ..if it's that important to go find her and ask about her marital relations when you get to meet that dear saint.
My guess is ..you won't ask.

I'd rather ask her about the early life of her Son ..was,he the sane as other babies.

The rest has no bearing on eternity imo..as long as she is nit worshipped as Lord..
Clay

United States

#453913 Jun 19, 2013
OldJG wrote:
OldJG wrote:
<quoted text>
You said, quote, "The Catholic Bible has both the Old Testament and the New Testament; therefore, Abraham and Moses is part of our Catholic history." End quote.
Abraham and Moses are part of your Roman Catholic history? Really? Neither of these men ever heard the words "Roman Catholic".
You said, quote, "We only give respect and honor to Mary because Jesus gave respect and honor to His mother.....and Jesus is the person we imitate and follow." End quote.
In what verse of the Bible does Jesus call Mary "mother"?
<quoted text>
Your quote, "Abraham and Moses is part of our Roman Catholic history." End quote.
My response, "Abraham and Moses are part of your Roman Catholic history?"
Your response, "Neither Moses nor Abraham ever heard of the word "Christian" as well." End.
Brilliant. Totally brilliant! HA HA!!!!
So, answer the question. Were Abraham and Moses Roman Catholic's?
You said, quote, "We only give respect and honor to Mary because Jesus gave respect and honor to His mother.....and Jesus is the person we imitate and follow." End quote.
My response, "In what verse of the Bible does Jesus call Mary "mother"?" End
Your response, "Are you saying that Mary is NOT Jesus' mother? Are you saying that Christ broke the commandment that says "honor thy mother and thy father?"
Is your brain fully functional? Apparently not!
<quoted text>
First....Abraham and Moses ARE NOT Roman Catholic. Period.
Second....did Jesus ever call Mary mother or mom. Ever?
<quoted text>
Strange? Have you ever called your mother ...... mother? Or do you always call your mother......WOMAN? Just wondering.
Scary? Scary is your ignorance and worship of a woman called Mary.
<quoted text>
How many times in recorded history did Jesus call Mary .....mother?
Ah I see, you want me to admit that Jesus isn't documented calling His Mother 'Mother'. He's only documented calling her 'Woman'.(and 'Woman' was a highly respectable title in those days btw).
The Bible say that not everything Jesus said or did is recorded. Not to mention, simple logic tells us the same.
The first 30 yrs of Our Lords life is barely mentioned. That's something you Bible worshipers can't acknowledge..

“HAVE A BLESSED ”

Since: Aug 08

New Year

#453914 Jun 19, 2013
Tiger Lily wrote:
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Stupid stupid doctrine. A baby does not HAVE a soul. It becomes a soul when it takes its first breath.
1. Man is made from the dust of the earth and becomes a living soul with the breath of life from God which is the spirit.
2. Fallen man is “mortal.”
3. Fallen man does not have an “immortal soul.”
4. It is not possible to communicate with the dead.
5. Death is a painless, unconscious sleep.
6. Jesus Christ died, was buried, and then rose from the dead.
7. Jesus Christ will resurrect believers at His Second Coming.
Job 4:17 The Bible calls man mortal.
Revelation 16:3 "Every living soul died in the sea." Souls can die.
Ezekiel 18:4 God said,“The soul that sins, it shall die.” Again, the soul can die!
Exodus 1:5 “Seventy souls” went to Egypt. Souls are people.
Acts 2:41 “Three thousand souls” were baptized. Again, souls are people.
1 Peter 3:20 “Eight souls were saved” in Noah’s day. Again, souls are people.
1 Timothy 6:16 God “only has immortality.” Man is not immortal.
2 Timothy 1:10 “Immortality” comes only “through the gospel.”
Romans 2:7 Christians “seek for immortality.”
1 Corinthians 15:53 At the end,“this mortal” shall “put on immortality.”
This just proves that the RCC doctrine is a big bunch of falsehood.


So you do or do nit believe that The baby has a,soul in the womb.
He knit it there.

And if the poor things life is ended ..That soul is with Jesus.

“HAVE A BLESSED ”

Since: Aug 08

New Year

#453915 Jun 19, 2013
RoSesz wrote:
<quoted text>
June you will put us in our place???
Dramatic. A touch maybe?
You know you will read about God here. And your book knowledge ..well I for one now,skip over ..it is nit relevant.
Your whole persona tell us you 're angry with the God you dint want to believe in.
But He still love s you and has so much patience..He is waiting with open arms for you to reach out to Him..
So you come around people who talk about Him.. that's,great..show a something may be calling you to be here.
The Matchless name of Our Saviuir Jesus Christ should be on your lips as you pray for peace from y our troubles
Sorry ..thunder this post is for you both..

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#453916 Jun 19, 2013
Black Thunder 42 wrote:
<quoted text>
About what?...a deity?
Prove the deity exists, then we might actually have some reasonable discourse to discuss.
Until that happens, there is no point nor reason to carry on with the semantics, is there?
~~~

You just contend long enough that He does not exist.. you will stand before Him...Just as sure as you exist..you will face Him...

Heb_9:27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:

It is THEN that you will rue the day that you have made the decision to deny Him...
Dan

Omaha, NE

#453917 Jun 19, 2013
RoSesz wrote:
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You gave me a hypothetical about 2 pastors teaching different thing.
I was not deflecting..just saying 2 priest s may act differently regarding your dogma..
I gave you the best answer since I had NO idea what these guys taught differently..I assumed they would follow bible teaching or lose their job..best ANSWER..
Maybe someone else's answer would be different ..if they believe in biblical. Teaching I doubt it..
Catholic priests don't teach different things concerning Catholic faith.

They may, as illustrated, apply Canon Law at their discretion (the communion example), but the teaching behind what they do isn't at their discretion.

Bible-only faiths DO teach differently.

Baptists and Lutherans, for example, both hold to sola Scriptura-"bible believing".

"(Baptists) reject the sacraments (both Baptism and the Lord's Supper) as instruments through which God graciously creates or strengthens faith in human hearts. They treat the sacraments as "ordinances" to be obeyed, and being baptized or receiving communion is an "act of obedience" and something WE do rather than primarily a tool of God to give blessings."

Lutherans believe in Baptism and the Lord's Supper as conferrals of grace.

Continuing:

http://www.wels.net/what-we-believe/questions...

"Most Baptists believe we can cooperate in our conversion, making a decision for Christ. Lutherans believe we cooperate with the Holy Spirit only after our conversion. He is completely responsible for the change that takes place in our conversion.

We believe in election to salvation as taught in Ephesians 1. The Bible clearly says there is no predestination to damnation, but God wants all to be saved.

Many Baptists hold to a concept called "once saved, always saved" that they called "eternal security." We believe a person can fall from faith because the Bible says he can (Hebrews 10:26-31, 1 Corinthians 10:12). We don't base this conclusion on reason. But in this case the principle is the same as a common principle of daily life: if I give you a gift of money, you have not done anything to earn it, but if you foolishly throw it away you lose the benefit of the gift. Faith and forgiveness is a pure gift, but the person who throws them away loses the blessing that was his."

Both denominations claim the same source for their teachings-the Bible and just the Bible, yet hold very different positions from this same source.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#453918 Jun 19, 2013
RoSesz wrote:
<quoted text>
So you do or do nit believe that The baby has a,soul in the womb.
He knit it there.
And if the poor things life is ended ..That soul is with Jesus.
~~~

The Bible says of Jeremiah.. God forms us in the womb

Jeremiah 1:5
Before I (g) formed thee in the womb I knew thee; and before thou wast born I sanctified thee,[and] I ordained thee a prophet to the (h) nations.

(g) The scripture uses this manner of speech to declare that God has appointed his minsters to their offices before they were born, as in

(Isa_49:1; Gal_1:15).

Isa 49:1 Listen, O isles, unto me; and hearken, ye people, from far;

The LORD hath called me from the womb; from the bowels of my mother hath he made mention of my name.


Isa 49:2 And he hath made my mouth like a sharp sword; in the shadow of his hand hath he hid me, and made me a polished shaft; in his quiver hath he hid me;

Isa 49:3 And said unto me, Thou art my servant, O Israel, in whom I will be glorified.

___

Gal 1:15 But when it pleased God, who separated me from my mother's womb, and called me by his grace,

Gal 1:16 To reveal his Son in me, that I might preach him among the heathen; immediately I conferred not with flesh and blood:
Dan

Omaha, NE

#453919 Jun 19, 2013
Seraphima wrote:
<quoted text>They served it to all those that NOT Orthodox to raise money But Orthodox do not eat fish during Lent.thanks for the church name....
All I said was that they had a fish fry.

I didn't take a position as to whether the Orthodox ate the fish or not.

Why wouldn't an Orthodox eat fish during Lent?
Dan

Omaha, NE

#453920 Jun 19, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
<quoted text>
You are not going to answer me....and both of us know why...it says plain as day that every human being who has the capacity to known their actions or lack of are sins, are sinners.
And we both know that Christians led by the Holy Spirit know that the Word of God says Mary was a sinner...same as you and I...but Catholics ignore this Scripture and teach opposite to it.
This is not a Catholic and a Protestant both being led by the Holy Spirit and disagreeing on Scripture...It is a Catholic trashing the Word of God to follow a false teaching by his religion...and a Christian doing what Christians do...follow the teaching of Christ.
You want another??? How about Mary being taken unto wife by Joseph, per Scripture, and the idiotic teaching that she remained a virgin???!!!!
You haven't asked me a question.

Please cite where I or any Catholic on the board has "trashed" scripture.

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