Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

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The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ. Full Story

Since: Sep 09

Vanderhoof, Canada

#453385 Jun 17, 2013
ReginaM wrote:
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So....who is your neighbor? Answer: Those who think like you or who kiss your butt.
I also watched that porn flick! I felt that it left a lot to be desired.

:)

Since: Sep 09

Vanderhoof, Canada

#453386 Jun 17, 2013
ReginaM wrote:
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Oh, my, Rose doesn't like the truth.
Well that there is her problem. You have to pummel it into her head until she understands that your version of truth is the one and only real deal.

Once she gets that into her head, she'll fly RIGHT ... you can bet your bible on it.
ReginaM

Toms River, NJ

#453387 Jun 17, 2013
The Protestant Inquisition: "Reformation" Intolerance and Persecution

I. PROTESTANT INTOLERANCE: AN INTRODUCTION AND OVERVIEW

II. PROTESTANT DIVISIONS AND MUTUAL ANIMOSITIES

III. PLUNDER AS AN AGENT OF RELIGIOUS REVOLUTION

IV. SYSTEMATIC SUPPRESSION OF CATHOLICISM

V. VIOLENT RADICALISM AND THE PROTESTANT REVOLUTION

VI. DEATH AND TORTURE FOR CATHOLICS, PROTESTANT DISSIDENTS, AND JEWS

VII. PROTESTANT CENSORSHIP

BIBLIOGRAPHY
http://socrates58.blogspot.com/2007/03/protes...
ReginaM

Toms River, NJ

#453388 Jun 17, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
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Well that there is her problem. You have to pummel it into her head until she understands that your version of truth is the one and only real deal.
Once she gets that into her head, she'll fly RIGHT ... you can bet your bible on it.
lol....not a chance.

Now, now, June, that isn't nice. She needs our prayers for a conversion of heart. Besides, I'm having an early night and can't be bothered with the nonsense. Stick around, she'll be back with more bile. Sleep well, will be busy the next few days, so see ya whenever.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#453389 Jun 17, 2013
who="ReginaM".
+-Oh, my, Rose doesn't like the truth.

**********
Why don't you quit needling Rose?

KayMarie
Clay

Saint Paul, MN

#453390 Jun 17, 2013
OldJG wrote:
OldJG wrote:
Oxbow wrote:
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Scripture alone (from the Reformation slogan Sola Scriptura) is the teaching that Scripture is the Church's only infallible and sufficient rule for deciding issues of faith and practices that involve doctrines. While the Bible does not contain all knowledge, it does contain that which is necessary for salvation. Indeed, if something is not found in Scripture, it is not binding upon the believer. This view does not deny that the Church has the authority to teach God's Word. Furthermore, while tradition is valuable, it but must be tested by the higher authority of the Scriptures.
<quoted text>
Let's ask this question as well. Did the Bible stand up, open it's mouth and declare which of your popes was correct in their interpretation? Please do not lie and tell us your theology has never changed. We can and have presented the fallacy of that argument over and over and over and over and over and over and over again. Comprende'
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You said, quote, "The Catholic Church wasn't started because a group of people opened up the Bible and said, "duh, it looks like Peter was the leader... we'll call him 'Pope', and duh ik looks like Jesus says the bread is his body..." End quote.
Please use the correct names when describing the "church" as you call it. The Christian church not the Roman Catholic church....
You said, quote, "The Catholic Church came before the NT was written." End quote.
Again, The Christian church and not the Roman Catholic church.
You said, quote, "Say, how come Catholicism looks remarkably similar before Constantine than post Constantine." End quote.
Yes, Roman Catholicism is exactly as Constantine left it. Corrupt and confused.
You said, quote, "Bottom line, if you were speaking truth, I would join ya." End quote.
Bottom line. You would not know the truth if it fell in your lap.
You said, quote, "I do not catch the Catholic Church doing it - because they don't need to. Truth is truth." End quote.
The Roman Catholic church has changed it's theology like you would change your clothes. One day this is truth and the next day something else is truth. Over and over and over and over and over and over again since Satan established your cult. The truth is not in the Roman Catholic church and apparently not in you.
That's side stepping my question. I said, "How come Catholicsm looks remarkably similar pre Constantine as post Constantine"?

You followed it up with, "Roman Catholicism Blah Blah... Roman Roman Blah Blah"

'Roman' Catholicism means the Roman rite. It has nothing to do with the Roman Empire. I know you understand this truth and I know why you continue to paste ROMAN in front of every reference to the Catholic Church. I'm sure you tell your Bible Victims... I mean, students, that The Roman Empire infiltrated the (small c" ) catholic Church- who were bible believing Christians. And then the Roman Empire conquered and tortured anyone who wouldn't submit to the Pope.
If any of your students had half a brain, they'd get up and walk out. You know darn well old g, that if they knew you full of crap, you wouldn't have a job.
Lead

Since: Jun 10

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#453391 Jun 17, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
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Sinless people don't need a Saviour.
Mentally handicapped and babies are sinless.
Therefore, the mentally handicapped and babies don't need a Saviour.
Does about sum up your argument?
Here is the sum of my words...

Sin: Any thought, word, desire, action, or omission of action, contrary to the law of God, or defective when compared with it.

I firmly believe that a baby is incapable of any thought, word, desire, action, or omission of action, contrary to the law of God, or defective when compared with it.

It depends..There are degrees of mental handicap...there are some on this forum!!!

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#453392 Jun 17, 2013
To scoffers on his forum....God's Word speaks of you.....

This second epistle, beloved, I now write unto you; in both which I stir up your pure minds by way of remembrance:

That ye may be mindful of the words which were spoken before by the holy prophets, and of the commandment of us the apostles of the Lord and Saviour:

Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,

And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.

For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:

Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished

But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#453393 Jun 17, 2013
Thank you Clay!!!

Quote: The Catholic Church came before the NT was written.

Jesus Christ, the incarnate Son of God, founder of Christianity, the corner stone of every Christian denomination, did not make the scene until the NT...

Which proves the Catholic "Church" is a non Christian organization....

“HAVE A BLESSED ”

Since: Aug 08

CHRISTMAS

#453394 Jun 17, 2013
LTM wrote:
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the catholic institution is not The Church. People from every tribe , tongue, and nation who believe in Jesus Christ and are born again, are the Church of Christ.
the catholic religion, just like the protestant religion was not created by God.
God did not create a religion, Jesus ministry was not to start a religion, He came preaching the Kingdom of God.
The Holy Spirit uses whom He wishes, and anoints whom He wishes with Spiritual Gifts.
There are 9 Gifts ,
•The Word of Knowledge
•The Word of Wisdom
•The Gift of Prophecy
•The Gift of Faith
•The Gifts of Healings
•The Working of Miracles
•The Discerning of Spirits
•Different Kinds of Tongues
•The Interpretation of Tongues
They are for every member of the church of God;
3.“Do not quench the Spirit, do not despise prophecies.”(1 Thessalonians 5:19)
4.“Do not neglect the gift that is in you … Meditate on these things, give yourself entirely to them, that your progress may be evident to all.”(1 Timothy 4:14)
5.“Therefore I remind you to stir up the gift of God which is in you through the laying on of my hands.”(2 Timothy 1:6)
Whatever gift the Holy Spirit has anointed you with, do not shun it.
every believer should go to the Lord in prayer and ask Him to release these 9 gifts through them anytime that He will want to do so. Let God know that you will be a willing vessel for the manifestations of these gifts,
9 Fruits of the Spirit are. Galatians 5:22
1.Love
2.Joy
3.Peace
4.Longsuffering
5.Kindness
6.Goodness
7.Faithfulness
8.Gentleness
9.Self-control
/www.bible-knowledge.com/
Amen ..well said brother.
By my reading and from what I was taught Jesus seemed to be very much
Not in favor if what ORGANIZED big Religion had become.
His death rent the Temple veil in half s o our access to God was,NOT any longer through the Priests but through HIM .

“HAVE A BLESSED ”

Since: Aug 08

CHRISTMAS

#453395 Jun 17, 2013
Just Sayin wrote:
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Electricity and utilities are not free for the CC. Food and shelter are not free for the clergy and religious. Clothing and other necessities are not free for Catholics. Cars and gas are not free for the clergy. Those that work at the Vatican and in local Churches as laypeople don't volunteer their time for free. They have families to take care of. Catholic teachers at Catholic schools don't work for free. Health insurance for these people is not free.
And don't forget that the CC is one of the largest charitable organization in the world. Catholic Charities is only one group and it is the second largest social service provider in the US, surpassed only by the fed gov.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Chariti...
And that is only ONE group under the CC which uses money tithed to the to help feed, clothe, shelter, and provide healthcare and education people all around the world.
Maybe you could provide a list of atheistic charitable organizations?
Agree with you wholeheartedly . Catholic charities,has helped many all around the world.

My favorite charity remains,

SAMARITANS PURSE.ORG

run by Franklin Graham. They really go into blighted places doing way more in practical ways than our government or celebrities with their press "discovering" the blight that is,DARFUR . SAMARITANS was there long before

And forget our government ..They support the rulers who are supported by the Leaders we want to cozy up to ..so we make no waves over there.

Those people not only kill Christians but non Arab Muslims..So much worse their lip service to Their god.
Religion A Delusion

Orlando, FL

#453396 Jun 17, 2013
ReginaM wrote:
The Protestant Inquisition: "Reformation" Intolerance and Persecution
I. PROTESTANT INTOLERANCE: AN INTRODUCTION AND OVERVIEW
II. PROTESTANT DIVISIONS AND MUTUAL ANIMOSITIES
III. PLUNDER AS AN AGENT OF RELIGIOUS REVOLUTION
IV. SYSTEMATIC SUPPRESSION OF CATHOLICISM
V. VIOLENT RADICALISM AND THE PROTESTANT REVOLUTION
VI. DEATH AND TORTURE FOR CATHOLICS, PROTESTANT DISSIDENTS, AND JEWS
VII. PROTESTANT CENSORSHIP
BIBLIOGRAPHY
http://socrates58.blogspot.com/2007/03/protes...
Cool, proof the CC is no worse than the Protestants.

So how is Jesus to choose his favorite?

The one who killed and maimed fewer people maybe?

If religion wasn't a delusion, their gods would never be making such strange choices.
truth

Perth, Australia

#453397 Jun 17, 2013
You still make argument about Adam and Cain..i told you first perfect Eden is not where you and others think..its change 2-3 times here on this planet..first perfection not live anymore on this planet they gone long time ago on others planets..

I hope in future generation will find under beneath of Earth or under ocean or see many previous things.

“HAVE A BLESSED ”

Since: Aug 08

CHRISTMAS

#453398 Jun 17, 2013
Dan wrote:
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That didn't take long, Rose.
The sex scandals-the "Godwin's Law" of any discussion on Catholicism. Failing a point to present, revert to the scandal.
The suits take place at the Diocesan level, Rose; that's the immediate jurisdiction of the offense.
Nice work-you hung in for a while without having to play the scandal card, but you eventually ran out of arguments and pulled it.
Actually Dan . I had been avoiding it studiously because the priests are not the only authority figures who have been guilty. They a 're everywhere I n all walks of life. And I do nit think of priest s that way at all .MOST ARE TRULY DEDICATED MEN IF GOD.

My chief complaint on the Church was why in God's name nit move these men to monasteries away from children ..your church was in a unique position to do such a thing without even involving the Law. I do nit get it. They coukd live out their lives in contemplation and penance .

And save children besides in the parishes they were moved to.

I was asking because money came up and sorry if it is relevant but dioceses are closing parishes in the face of the believers. The poorer ones and selling real estate to get money.

Why doesn't the VATICAN bank recompense on that level and let theses
Believers keep their schools and church's???

It is One Church is it not.. with one leader.
Religion A Delusion

Orlando, FL

#453399 Jun 17, 2013
2000 years ago, Jesus died so his church might flourish.

Today, there are more Muslims than Catholics, and almost as many Protestants.

So who screwed up?

Jesus?

The appointed church?

Maybe God Father for making mankind so defective?

Of course, none of the above make any sense.

The only logical answer is that the CC claim is baloney.

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#453400 Jun 17, 2013
hojo wrote:
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Sorry that God and His Son Jesus are not acceptable to you, but they ARE to me and to EVERY other Catholic Christian on this forum including the other 1.168 Billion Catholics around the world. Lets add to that list the vast number of faith-filled Protestant Christians who also worship Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ every day. If your purpose was to come on this forum and attack our Christian faith in a hostile venge-full and beligerent manner you have accomplished "exactly" that---however, no matter how much "arrogance and vindictiveness you display" toward us Christians---that has not, will not, nor will EVER change our personal commitment of faith, Salvation and dedication to God Our Father and His Son Jesus!!
Asking you to prove your god exists,a and prove his words to be valid is hostile huh?
You are lost my friend...that is what the world requires of those who profess any end or promise. It is not my fault you are inept and unable to step up to the plate when it comes to your professions, it is YOURS.
I have met many a snake oil salesman in my time...it appears you are one of them. They could never back up their claims either.

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#453401 Jun 17, 2013
hojo wrote:
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It matters NOT what you think of me or any of my other ecumentical brothers and sisters in Christ. I am not here to "pamper your" vindictive and arrogant "attacking" attitude toward our faith in Jesus Christ, whether they be directed at me or any other Catholic and Protestant Christians on this forum.
It is not MY problem you can't back up your rhetoric---It is YOURS!

The more you blow hot air, the more foolish and inept you look.

Since: Jan 08

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#453402 Jun 17, 2013
RoSesz wrote:
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Amen ..well said brother.
By my reading and from what I was taught Jesus seemed to be very much
Not in favor if what ORGANIZED big Religion had become.
His death rent the Temple veil in half s o our access to God was,NOT any longer through the Priests but through HIM .
she is not a brother, she is a sister

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#453403 Jun 17, 2013
Dan wrote:
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If God knew the result aforehand, then it's not a "failure", is it, BT?
Thanks.
So your deity enjoys producing imperfect creations and calls them "good". That is indeed a failure at any and all levels.

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

Since: Oct 10

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#453404 Jun 17, 2013
Just Sayin wrote:
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I am curious what you believe "love" is. Apparently you don't understand that it must be freely given for it to be love? That means there must be a *choice* to love or not to love.
Would you rather you not have the choice? You just be a slave, a robot? THAT would be the real sadistic deity, not one who allows for freedom of choice.
The book I am reading is very interesting. The author says that people will act out the traits they believe that God has. Or put another way, how people act has a direct affect on their beliefs on God. It actually changes your brain structure which then reinforces those beliefs.
If that is the case, from the "believers" I see here your deity is in big trouble.

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