Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 589268 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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Since: Jun 10

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#445092 May 25, 2013
Regina wrote:
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Basically and briefly:
When reference is made to the word "redemption," it is a reference to all of mankind. When Christ died to free mankind from the debt of punishment, He redeemed humanity as a whole.
When reference is made to the word "salvation," it is a reference to Christ saving each and everyone of us as individuals.
While Christ has died for the redemption of mankind, individuals can reject His grace of salvation. God's gift of salvation is there for those who accept it.
http://www.catholicdoors.com/faq/qu600.htm
apolutrosis,(the act) ransom in full, i.e.(figuratively) riddance, or (specially) Christian salvation:--deliverance, redemption.

Christian Salvation is a definition of redemption....

This decides who is saved and whom is not...He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

Its a individual choice.....Salvation is a gift.....for it to have value, it must be accepted...if salvation is not accepted...you are out of Heaven for eternity....period...

The pope lied......atheists are non believers...they are out...
Clay

Saint Paul, MN

#445093 May 25, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
who="Clay"
Right, looks like your hands are washed then. Carry on. Christ started a Bible only and not a Church. He gave everyone permission to dictate Christianity based on the misc writings of a few of His Apostles (the other Apostles were not important enough to write in this Bible)
It says right there in mt 16:18 "upon this rock I will build my Bible, and the gates of Hell shall not prevail against it"
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Come on, Clay. You all say that the CC gave us the Bible, so it was you that decided that those Apostles were not important enough to be included.
KayMarie
The fact that the other Apostles didn't write anything down that survived til the compilation of the NT, is proof that Jesus Christ started a Church and never commanded His Apostles to establish a Bible to dictate His Ministry.

- also, the Apostles didn't sit down to write anything until 30-50 yrs after Jesus Christ died.
You tell me Kay, did Jesus start a Church or Bible?

You can read the writings of the first Christians to get a better idea.

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#445094 May 25, 2013
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Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
Right, looks like your hands are washed then. Carry on. Christ started a Bible only and not a Church. He gave everyone permission to dictate Christianity based on the misc writings of a few of His Apostles (the other Apostles were not important enough to write in this Bible)
It says right there in mt 16:18 "upon this rock I will build my Bible, and the gates of Hell shall not prevail against it"
There is no cure for stupid....

And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

Since: Oct 10

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#445095 May 25, 2013
alessandro alfieri wrote:
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Hey, you. That's right, you, Birdbrain. Aren't you the one who thinks he was descended from aliens?
Why? Weren't you?
Your entire planet and solar system was the result of supernova explosion...you are stardust, no matter what your religion tells you. That IS a given undeniable fact.
Regina

Long Branch, NJ

#445096 May 25, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
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apolutrosis,(the act) ransom in full, i.e.(figuratively) riddance, or (specially) Christian salvation:--deliverance, redemption.
Christian Salvation is a definition of redemption....
This decides who is saved and whom is not...He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
Its a individual choice.....Salvation is a gift.....for it to have value, it must be accepted...if salvation is not accepted...you are out of Heaven for eternity....period...
The pope lied......atheists are non believers...they are out...
You don't know the difference between redemption and salvation. None of the protestants do. That was one of the first things I noticed upon coming to Topix. And spare us the dictionary definitions. They are not applicable when speaking of matters of God.(Maybe that's why you use them.) So calm down, Charlie, you know not of what you speak.
Clay

Saint Paul, MN

#445097 May 25, 2013
Human Being wrote:
<quoted text>
Clay:
To be a friend, I am going to speak directly to you. We are going back in time for the RCC. Far back. Benedict brought us part way, but Francis is bringing us back farther.
The world of the 18th-20th Century is over. Thanks be to God. But even still, Europe is coming to the time of the barbarian invasions of the Roman Empire right now. So it will be chaos. And I think they are in fear now.
We are going to get a lot of Protesters, especially leftovers from the Protestant faith only clubs, on this side of the Atlantic. And it is going to get shaken up even more than the priest scandals.
I think we need to be ready for change. And not try and do spiritual combat with the arguments of the 18-20th Centuries that so many hold onto. They want to fight to the last man standing is the winner. But that attitude is easy to fall into.
What do you think?
All I know is that I approach this forum much different than I do a Jehovah's Witness that come to my door or a group of friends. I remember when I first came on Topix, it was an atheist forum and I thought I was on the same team as the other Christians. But as soon as they found out I was Catholic, they hated me more than the Atheist. I had never experienced that in my life! I have lots of Protestant friends and figured we're just different Christians, but Christians none the less. On here, I see blatant bigotry. I see blatant deception. Its crazy.
I don't know what direction the Holy Spirit is bringing the Church. But so far, I like it. Pope Francis is definitely an interesting leader. I think he was born to be pope at this moment in history. He just lets everyone yap about him in the media and doesn't defend himself. He calmly leads by example. We actually have lots of great Bishops right now.
I think the next couple yrs will be interesting.

Since: Jul 12

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#445098 May 25, 2013
Black Thunder 42 wrote:
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Why? Weren't you?
Your entire planet and solar system was the result of supernova explosion...you are stardust, no matter what your religion tells you. That IS a given undeniable fact.
HAHA! That's not star dust, that's angel dust, and you've been smoking too much of it, man.
Is that why you're so threatened by women?

Hey, Ox, we've got a live one here for ya.
truth

Perth, Australia

#445099 May 25, 2013
you not going tell me any order..right..

i am not liar
how many times i say necu=no
i been honest with you
you not listen me
as you need listen yourself

please tell me
you liked listen what witness=about what as accuser
that you see me fully in my pain and anger grief too
o really

you forget something
i am as i am

no..i will be my home very soon..
truth

Perth, Australia

#445100 May 25, 2013
your supernova can be repus=tail
see result

now

i told you
nobody will save you

its not mean i liked you or not
nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooo
nothing to do with that

right path is right path
truth

Perth, Australia

#445101 May 25, 2013
right path is right path
wrong path is wrong path

Since: Dec 11

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#445102 May 25, 2013
In Kierkegaard’s pamphlets and polemical books, including The Moment, he criticized several aspects of church formalities and politics.[78] According to Kierkegaard, the idea of congregations keeps individuals as children since Christians are disinclined from taking the initiative to take responsibility for their own relation to God. He stresses that “Christianity is the individual, here, the single individual.”
truth

Perth, Australia

#445103 May 25, 2013
remember
evil football game not going help you
not at all
i know who they are
nobody and nighting
drug dillers and judges and ministers of them

now

you will seeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

why they do to me and m y family evil corupt doctors ministers p[olice judges and all criminals togethers

now

not will be mercy

did you see that lift up
yee
man with coat on zig zag as psa giza piramida
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no marcyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

how m,any billions and trillions rip off
evilllllllllllllllllllllllllll llllllllllllllll
now
you are mr or mrs zazozazic=look how many z how many lift zazanovic see i zaninovic..i find all of you and everyone

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see all doctors evilllllllllllllllllllllllllll lllll

all of you evilllllllllllllllllllllll
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then you can green or red or so ever i am not careeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
now you are kukiceeeee on zukice
cikuzecikuke see letters

who
meeeeeeeeeeee
nk
truth

Perth, Australia

#445104 May 25, 2013
marsh you know where=sram te bilo
see
mars
nemoj jesti mrsno
mrcino
mr;kina
key

look on map ben o'clock
see
be good oe else gypsy joker coming thereeeeeeee
are you for sure mr bure=wind win dovidjenja
dovidjenja=nema win
nestalo je vina=jesus will bring you
whoooooooo
sram te bilo
i talk about key not vino

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

Since: Oct 10

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#445105 May 25, 2013
alessandro alfieri wrote:
<quoted text>
HAHA! That's not star dust, that's angel dust, and you've been smoking too much of it, man.
Is that why you're so threatened by women?
Hey, Ox, we've got a live one here for ya.
Why, where did ya ever git the idea that I was "threatened" by women Huckleberry?
Why do you feel the need to accuse me of doing drugs?
Is it just the need to defame because you can't actually refute my statements due to your own inept abilities?
Did your brother OX call you in for backup because he couldn't refute anything I said and had to resort to childish name calling and defamation (just like you-who had no provocation whatsoever either)?
You don't mind if I refer to you as Huckleberry(in light of what you have already stated unjustly about me) do you?

Now. Do you have anything you would like to discuss or debate reasonably, or are you just here to heckle and defame?
rosesz

Fort Lauderdale, FL

#445106 May 25, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
The fact that the other Apostles didn't write anything down that survived til the compilation of the NT, is proof that Jesus Christ started a Church and never commanded His Apostles to establish a Bible to dictate His Ministry.
- also, the Apostles didn't sit down to write anything until 30-50 yrs after Jesus Christ died.
You tell me Kay, did Jesus start a Church or Bible?
You can read the writings of the first Christians to get a better idea.
His church is His bride..the body of believers redeemed one by one.

It does not take a huge organization or megachurch to believe in His blood sacrifice.

They are nice. They do good works maybe. Spread the gospel

But its like the Temple veil. GOD can reach our hearts without all the ritual. Imo
truth

Perth, Australia

#445108 May 25, 2013
open atlas=map
then you will see
your bottle vine not save you
i am talking about key
truth

Perth, Australia

#445110 May 25, 2013
ko se zadnji smije
najslade se smije
ko place
na kraju
sve u suzama nosi
nk
truth

Perth, Australia

#445111 May 25, 2013
'molila je tiho ona
i niko razumno je gleda
i niko razumno joj reka'

ones implemented finish for ever

by
truth

Perth, Australia

#445112 May 25, 2013
asked yourself
its will be deserve or not
deceiver and evil people
on devilish satanic wicket way
nothing deserve
truth

Perth, Australia

#445113 May 25, 2013
ko jamu kopa pod drugim u nju sam upada
you going in sheol=jama
then
pit
its will appear from pit
who
what deference between too things
explain

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