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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 687346 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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Human Being

Ville Platte, LA

#444937 May 25, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
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If an all-powerful god can't dispose of evil, that is because "according to the theology" the god CREATED evil.
You people want to ignore THAT scripture ... DON'T you???
It doesn't suit your "desires."
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Isaiah 45:7
Douay-Rheims Bible
I form the light, and create darkness, I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord that do all these things
June VanDerMark:

Well, you picked a simple scripture and glean from it what you want to see. Sounds so religious of you...Haha.

Perhaps in this scripture, the Lord must punish as a father does an undisciplined child, depending on one's perspective and lesson learned, it could be said that the distress and sadness we go through seems evil, but was always good.
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#444938 May 25, 2013
Clay wrote:
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Heck, these new born again evangelicals don't consider Lutheran or Methodist Christian anymore! nuts..
How did you do at Vermillion? My plans fell through at Pine City. I did well on the Mississippi yesterday but I ain't eating them!
Hey Clay, sorry your plans didn't work out, probably for the better though...we got soaked with cold rain and 20 mph winds, but we did catch about 15 keepers. As always the lake was beautiful and I'm already trying to figure out how to get back up there again before summer is out. I've heard it's safe to eat one or two from the Mississippi, but I rarely fish it, only when we're boating above the Coon Rapids dam.
Human Being

Ville Platte, LA

#444939 May 25, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
So today's theology is all about honesty. tongue in cheek
My evil side just received word from on high.
The god wants you to be honest. He says it's not a shame that he created evil. That's why he didn't dispose of the devil. He needs hell and the devil to assist him while he's serving the evil side of his nature.
He wants you to know that while you are bragging about his love for you, and how he will punish others ... that you don't fool him. He sees your arrogant stances, and that makes his evil side lusting to put you in your places. He sees you need to learn humility and stop speaking for him. He's had more than enough from you.
June VanDerMark:

Applauds. I think you are learning something here. You have some profound depth in your paragraphs here. And I have learned as well.

I knew you had it in you girl. Keep going.

Though God needs nothing, his providence can use all things. He is not beyond using any and all means to bring us into unity with Him. He even sacrificed Himself on the Cross for us.(He didn't have to do it.)
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#444940 May 25, 2013
LTM wrote:
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Yeah we do Anthony, as Christians who follow the teachings of God and are baptized with the Baptism of Jesus.
If we do not have a burden for lost souls, we can not be born again.
Because that is what Jesus came and died for! lost souls.
We are Gods workmanship,(GOD WORKING THROUGH US).
Its not our good works, its Gods good works.
That saved us, and works in and through us.
That we carry on the teachings of Jesus Christ.
Relaying the message of salvation to the lost.
You can't even string together misspelled words to make a grammatically correct sentence, so I have no doubt you don't have the authority to interpret the bible and judge other's doctrines. You're message is wrong because it's not what was taught by Christ or the apostles. Sorry.
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#444941 May 25, 2013
LTM wrote:
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Lutheran, and Methodist, are denominations , when someone says who do you follow do you say catholic, no you say I follow Jesus.
No, you follow your own judgement as to what you think Jesus says. You still have that authority problem don't you?

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#444942 May 25, 2013
[who="Anthony MN"
I'm very serious Kay. It's important for you to understand that while you attack Catholicism, you have no more support for your own beliefs than any other protestant group who uses the bible for their own particular brand of Christianity. Since all of your competing groups use the bible and claim your interpretations are the same as the early Christians, why can't ANY of you show early Christians expressing beliefs similar to yours?
I think the most intellectually honest thing for you to do would be to at least admit you believe that "real authentic" Christianity didn't exist after the apostles died until your refromers came onto the scene 1400 years later. To perpetuate this fantasy that "Christians" remained hidden and/or persecuted by the Catholic Church during those years is absurd.

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I, too, am very serious, Anthony.
(1)Jesus used scripture alone to escape temptation: "It is written".(Sola scripture)
(2)All of the N.T. workers baptized.(Baptists)
(3)All of the Apostles and new converts received the Holy Ghost, and spoke with other tongues.(Pentecost)
(4)The N.T. churches practiced prophecy, healing, interpretation, etc.(Pentecost)
(5)The N.T. ministers practiced the 'laying on of hands'(Presbyterian)
(6)Jesus sent the disciples two by two to minister the gospel.(Methodist)

Shall I go on? We would do well to be more unified, but sometimes I think that God allowed different groups to emphasize different aspects of ministry to preserve them. Each aspect has its own 'basket'.

No, I didn't mention the Eucharist. All of us participate in the communion of our Lord; not in a ritualistic fashion. Read the account in I Corinthians, and you will discover that their communion was shared much like the Last Supper. We've all become more formal about it...but all of us need to find 'true communion'.

KayMarie

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#444943 May 25, 2013
who="Anthony MN"
You can't even string together misspelled words to make a grammatically correct sentence, so I have no doubt you don't have the authority to interpret the bible and judge other's doctrines. You're message is wrong because it's not what was taught by Christ or the apostles. Sorry.
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Easy on her, Anthony. It is well-known that Jesus disciples were not college graduates. They were all simple Galilee ans, and did not even speak other languages. Thus the crowd that heard them speak in their different languages on the day of Pentecost were astounded.
God STILL chooses things that are not, to confound the 'wise of this world'.
KayMarie
hojo

Saint Paul, MN

#444944 May 25, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
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you do not teach the words of Jesus...
I receive and proclaim HIS word each day, but I don't claim to have the authority teach them--(AS A MATTER OF FACT---NEITHER DO YOU)------ HOWEVER ------Jesus Christs One True Catholic Church---"DOES"---No t only does the Catholic Church "TEACH THE TRUE (interpretive) of the WORDS OF JESUS"---but they do it--each and every day at Daily Mass...... But--then--you wouldn't know "anything" about that Confrinting, because you are so "caught up and stuck" into your "ministry of hate" for the TRUTH of the TRUE GOSPEL of Jesus Christ and His One True Catholic Church that "quoting and worshiping bible verses" and attacking the faith of other Christians (especially Catholics) is the basis and the flimsy(shallow depth) of your entire(self appointed) ministry!!!

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#444945 May 25, 2013
468
Clay wrote:
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We must never pay attention to that kind of stuff, even if some parts seem true. I do believe we have one of the greatest Popes we've had. Actually the last 3 have been phenomenal. Their placement in this moment of history is interesting.
I saw a 'What, Why, and Do It' description on the last 3 Popes from someone.
Pope John Paul II- First Pope to reach out to Protestants with a less stern voice and more open arms. Articulated WHAT we Catholics believe very well to them and us.
Benedict XVI - Brilliant theologian and Biblical expert. Even some notable Protestant Ministers are in awe of his insights into the scriptures. He explained WHY we believe what we do.
Pope Francis -' What we believe (from JP II ), Why we believe it (from Benedict), now Go and Do It from Pope Francis.
I believe the Holy Spirit chose the last 3 for a reason. But I'm not personally convinced of the end of the world hoopla. I think the real persecution of the Church has only begun. You can see the tip of the iceberg with growing atheism and hatred towards the Catholic Church by others.
This 'prophecy' from Archbishop George of Chicago is probably more accurate:
"I expect to die in my bed, my successor will die in prison and his successor will die a martyr in the public square"
I think there is more evil to come about before Christ comes back.
Yeah...a great pope!!!!

Atheists deny the existence of God...The Bible says unbelievers will never enter Heaven...the pope says God got it wrong again....everybody, including atheists are going to Heaven!!!!
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#444946 May 25, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
[who="Anthony MN"
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I, too, am very serious, Anthony.
(1)Jesus used scripture alone to escape temptation: "It is written".(Sola scripture)
(2)All of the N.T. workers baptized.(Baptists)
(3)All of the Apostles and new converts received the Holy Ghost, and spoke with other tongues.(Pentecost)
(4)The N.T. churches practiced prophecy, healing, interpretation, etc.(Pentecost)
(5)The N.T. ministers practiced the 'laying on of hands'(Presbyterian)
(6)Jesus sent the disciples two by two to minister the gospel.(Methodist)
Shall I go on? We would do well to be more unified, but sometimes I think that God allowed different groups to emphasize different aspects of ministry to preserve them. Each aspect has its own 'basket'.
No, I didn't mention the Eucharist. All of us participate in the communion of our Lord; not in a ritualistic fashion. Read the account in I Corinthians, and you will discover that their communion was shared much like the Last Supper. We've all become more formal about it...but all of us need to find 'true communion'.
KayMarie
1. Jesus used scripture, He did not use scripture alone (Catholic doctrine).

The rest are also done in the Catholic Church. In fact, these communities you mention got these traditions from the Catholic Church, they just changed the meaning of them to be virtually pointless because they deny they are grace filled.

Kay, because protestants are not united in their interpretation of scripture (so using the bible alone can't work), I'm asking you to refer me to any documentation or historical evidence which proves that the early Christian Church after the death of St. John unitl the protestant reformation, held to your, or any evangelical protestant beliefs.
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#444947 May 25, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
who="Anthony MN"
You can't even string together misspelled words to make a grammatically correct sentence, so I have no doubt you don't have the authority to interpret the bible and judge other's doctrines. You're message is wrong because it's not what was taught by Christ or the apostles. Sorry.
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Easy on her, Anthony. It is well-known that Jesus disciples were not college graduates. They were all simple Galilee ans, and did not even speak other languages. Thus the crowd that heard them speak in their different languages on the day of Pentecost were astounded.
God STILL chooses things that are not, to confound the 'wise of this world'.
KayMarie
She spends a lot of time here, almost as much as your husband, damning to hell the Catholic Church based on her reading of scripture. If I'm to give her any consideration at all, shouldn't I at least expect her reading and comprehension skills to be better than a 3rd grader? Keep in mind that St. Peter warned us against those who were unqualified to interpret scripture....
rosesz

Pompano Beach, FL

#444948 May 25, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
who="rosesz"
Francis is not a Roman until now as pope. Those prophecies seem to be accurate for popes before the prophecy not so much.
He could be the last pope or the end times could be 200 years away
Jesus said NO ONE knows but the Father.
Thing is with Russia and Syria threatening Israel..the prophecies of Ezekiel 38 -39 seem imminent. The end time could be close. But no one knows.
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Not a Roman 'till NOW' is pretty telling, as NOW he IS a Roman Pope, and his parents are Italian.
Though Jesus said "no man knows the day nor the hour", a Jewish scholar has some interesting things to say about that. Apparently one of the Feast Days is based on a certain phase of the moon, and each year they must watch for that phase before beginning the celebration. They do not know the 'day nor the hour'.
Yes, it does appear that the nations are beginning to gather (loudly) against Israel...especially the UNITED Nations. We could well be in the time of Ezekiel's prophecy.
It pays to be ready. "When I come, will I find faith on the earth?"
KayMarie
Lets hope He does find it. If we believe in Revelation. At the moment. There is no visual anti christ..who will make the false peace peacrwith Israel YET.

Is peter the roman him ir the prophet. He seems to be a very humble cleric. I have a feeling he will surprise a lot of the Chuch hierarchy. And the rest of the world.

Personally in reading those prophecies on Peter th Roman..they were accurate on popes that came before..and very iffy on those eho came after. Imo.
marge

Leesburg, GA

#444949 May 25, 2013
The born-agains are united in their interpretation of Scripture and they use the Bible alone.

Anthony, back then you called us heretics and killed and tortured us.
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#444950 May 25, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
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Yeah...a great pope!!!!
Atheists deny the existence of God...The Bible says unbelievers will never enter Heaven...the pope says God got it wrong again....everybody, including atheists are going to Heaven!!!!
The pope said Christ redeemed all of us, making it possible for every human to be saved.

Read here (if you really care); http://www.ncregister.com/blog/jimmy-akin/did...
marge

Leesburg, GA

#444951 May 25, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
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She spends a lot of time here, almost as much as your husband, damning to hell the Catholic Church based on her reading of scripture. If I'm to give her any consideration at all, shouldn't I at least expect her reading and comprehension skills to be better than a 3rd grader? Keep in mind that St. Peter warned us against those who were unqualified to interpret scripture....
Everyone who is born-anew should be able to understand Scripture as the Spirit teaches them.
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#444952 May 25, 2013
marge wrote:
The born-agains are united in their interpretation of Scripture and they use the Bible alone.
Anthony, back then you called us heretics and killed and tortured us.
No, they aren't unified. At all.

Please cite for me any information you may have which shows the early Catholic Church killing and torturing evangelical protestants. In fact, show me where there WERE evangelical protestants in the early Church. Thanks marge.
Clay

Melrose Park, IL

#444953 May 25, 2013
marge wrote:
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Everyone who is born-anew should be able to understand Scripture as the Spirit teaches them.
Where in the Bible does it say that?

You should know better. Can't you look around you and see all the different interpretations by everyone who says they are born again?

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#444954 May 25, 2013
who="Anthony MN"
She spends a lot of time here, almost as much as your husband, damning to hell the Catholic Church based on her reading of scripture. If I'm to give her any consideration at all, shouldn't I at least expect her reading and comprehension skills to be better than a 3rd grader? Keep in mind that St. Peter warned us against those who were unqualified to interpret scripture....

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A college education does not necessarily equip one to interpret scripture. Some individuals, who can't even read, do a great job presenting the Truth.

Peter warned against unscrupulous persons who twisted the writings of Paul 'to their own destruction'.

Peter said that those things were hard to understand.

Since you declare that there were no Protestants in those days, the 'unscrupulous' must have been Catholic?:(

KayMarie

“ IT'S A CHOICE !!!”

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#444956 May 25, 2013
Black Thunder 42 wrote:
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rosesz

Pompano Beach, FL

#444957 May 25, 2013
marge wrote:
The born-agains are united in their interpretation of Scripture and they use the Bible alone.
Anthony, back then you called us heretics and killed and tortured us.
I brought that up about the bibles and persecutio to a Cathoilic on another thread. They dont believe it happened.

The important thing is that they do have bible study today..

I said before God used the Reformation for good. Cant tell by these forums but POPE JOHN PAUL called for unity NOT dissension.

Too bad some Catholics dont listen to Him.

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