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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 665576 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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Human Being

Kinder, LA

#443457 May 21, 2013
Tiger Lily wrote:
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Much of scripture was written after visions. John in Revelation, Daniel: both were revealed history in dreams.
Read Daniel and you will see empires depicted as animals. Same with Revelation but the timeline reverses.
When one dies, one is unconscious in the grave.
Ecclesiastes 9:5 For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten.
9:6 Also their love, and their hatred, and their envy, is now perished; neither have they any more a portion for ever in any thing that is done under the sun.
9:10 Whatever your hand finds to do, do it with all your might, for in the grave,(Hebrew Sheol ) where you are going, there is neither working nor planning nor knowledge nor wisdom.
... until Jesus comes and awakens you from the dead.
Read and understand.
Tiger Lily:

I don't quite know what you mean?

For me, it is not so well defined with concepts and words. For our definitions fall short of God, and what God has in store for us in eternity. We are born as created beings in this world. And our physical bodies return to that dust.

But also all creation awaits the revelation of the children of God, as Paul writes.

Yet we know that we will have new bodies in a new heaven and earth. So what remains of physical memory, may be purified in God's Presence. And there may be a hierarchy of sorts, even as there are angels and archangels.

For me, Ecclesiastes(Solomon's) emphasis is that all is vanity. Vanity of vanities. Paul goes along with this in his description that all will pass away. And only faith, hope, and love remains.
Human Being

Kinder, LA

#443458 May 21, 2013
Black Thunder 42 wrote:
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Then why dies the RCC preach that subjects pray to Mary as the intercession to have prayers "relayed" in it's course to achieve it's destination?
"May we be assisted, we beseech Thee, O Lord, by the worshipful intercession of Thy glorious Mother, the ever-Virgin Mary; that we, who have been enriched by her perpetual blessings, may be delivered from all dangers, and through her loving kindness made to be of one heart and mind: Who livest and reignest world without end.
Amen."
It appears you do not follow your church doctrine.
Black Thunder 42

The Blessed Virgin Mary is and always will be the Mother of Jesus, the Son of God and Son of Man.

If God will listen to anyone, why would He not listen to the Mother of His Son?
Tiger Lily

Auckland, New Zealand

#443459 May 21, 2013
StarC wrote:
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Any one that post lies about The True Church of Jesus Christ is the greatest wh----.
Like the real wh---, Nero.
This is why you should NOT try to interpret Scripture.
The wh--- is Nero.
Google it…. Page after page will tell you that….
The "Whore of Babylon" is actually the Emperor Nero; his temples were dedicated to many false Roman gods - and yes, "Babylon" is code for Rome.
Recommended reading for StarC
Revelation 17 and 18.
Revelation 17
1 And there came one of the seven angels which had the seven vials, and talked with me, saying unto me, Come hither; I will shew unto thee the judgment of the great whore that sitteth upon many waters:
2 With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication.
3 So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.
4 And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:
5 And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.
6 And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration.

Nero didn't reign over the kings of the earth.
Seems you have believed Jesuit lies StarC

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#443460 May 21, 2013
LTM wrote:
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That is why so many Muslims are being put to death by their own country men because they have become followers of Jesus.
You are completely out of touch with what reality really is.
Third world countries sent more missionaries to Canada and the USA then we send to their countries.
In 3rd world countries people are being put to death and imprisoned for their faith in God. Yet despite the cost they count it a pleasure to die for their faith in God.
Because they know that death is not the end, absent from the body is present with the Lord.
You forget the disciples of Jesus traveled to Asia Minor, and other Eastern Countries.
Before Christianity . came to the west, you ignorant person.
If there were 120 of them, they had to have gone somewhere.
Problem ism we have little or no record of them.
What we do have is redactions of accounts by Roman benefactors, making them tenuous.
Tiger Lily

Auckland, New Zealand

#443461 May 21, 2013
Human Being wrote:
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Black Thunder 42
The Blessed Virgin Mary is and always will be the Mother of Jesus, the Son of God and Son of Man.
If God will listen to anyone, why would He not listen to the Mother of His Son?
Because we have ONE mediator between God and man.
Mary is dead. She is awaiiting her resurrection.

Since: Dec 06

Location hidden

#443462 May 21, 2013
Preston wrote:
<quoted text>don't need to wait until a tent revival, clay. My wife got saved on a sidewalk on the Main st in our hometown, over 31 years ago, and her salvation is still good today.
Hello Preston

Glad to hear it.

I hope you have been well...?

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#443463 May 21, 2013
who="Tiger Lily"
Two different contexts. Both under the OLD COVENANT where GRACE was not available.
Under Moses' law, a person gathering sticks on the Sabbath was to be put to death.
Sin offerings in blood were made then. Death was a penalty for some transgressions.
In the OT, God demanded the destruction of whole nations including women, children and all the animals. It is one question I will ask when I get there: why.

**********

Whole cities in Africa have been destroyed by aids. Likewise in those pagan times, things like aids and child sacrifice would have destroyed humanity. It was for the sake of saving humanity.

KayMarie
Human Being

Kinder, LA

#443464 May 21, 2013
Tiger Lily wrote:
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Because we have ONE mediator between God and man.
Mary is dead. She is awaiiting her resurrection.
Tiger Lily

I can agree with your first statement, that there is One mediator between God and man.

But it appears you are in conflict with the power of prayer. Perhaps "conflict" is too harsh a word. I mean that your view is narrower than mine.

Do you think that it is only we who are living on this earth, here and now can pray? And that these prayers can only be for those who are now alive?

Do you see, that you are narrowing the dynamics of prayer if you answer "Yes" to those two questions?

Do you not pray for the salvation of souls not yet born on this earth?

I ask these questions, for you to explore, and examine, and not as a conflict between us.
Religion A Delusion

Titusville, FL

#443465 May 21, 2013
Laying fear aside...

Surely the Greatest Mind in the Universe could write a Book on which most of its own creation could read on this own, understand, and agree.

Instead, we are told we need man-made gurus and instruction manuals.

I choose not to pretend any more. If you want to join the combat of good and evil, why not start within?

Tiger Lily

Auckland, New Zealand

#443466 May 21, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
who="Tiger Lily"
Two different contexts. Both under the OLD COVENANT where GRACE was not available.
Under Moses' law, a person gathering sticks on the Sabbath was to be put to death.
Sin offerings in blood were made then. Death was a penalty for some transgressions.
In the OT, God demanded the destruction of whole nations including women, children and all the animals. It is one question I will ask when I get there: why.
**********
Whole cities in Africa have been destroyed by aids. Likewise in those pagan times, things like aids and child sacrifice would have destroyed humanity. It was for the sake of saving humanity.
KayMarie
In that case, the tornadoes were sent to you by God for punishment.
Our earthquake in Christchurch costing four billion and leaving many without homes likewise.
Why is AIDS so bad? Syphilis and Gonorrhoea hit many soldiers in WWII.
The Black plague in London. Is this all God's handiwork?

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#443467 May 21, 2013
Just Sayin wrote:
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Mary is the Mother of God and deserves your respect, admiration, and love.
Jesus didn't just throw her away like some empty candy wrapper. She is still His mother.
You disrespect Jesus when you disrespect His mom.
"If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple."
truth

Perth, Australia

#443468 May 21, 2013
those souls stay in circle 3x more who is know coming back on earth

restore
who
your god= which god your possessors deceivers wicket satanic this and that..its mean never what you want
what others deceivers want..not you

restore=how many masters you have
evil upon evil
did your masters going sold you and your family your tribe your people your nation

evil upon evil
wicket corupt world
Tiger Lily

Auckland, New Zealand

#443469 May 21, 2013
Human Being wrote:
Tiger Lily
I can agree with your first statement, that there is One mediator between God and man.
But it appears you are in conflict with the power of prayer. Perhaps "conflict" is too harsh a word. I mean that your view is narrower than mine.
Do you think that it is only we who are living on this earth, here and now can pray? And that these prayers can only be for those who are now alive?
Do you see, that you are narrowing the dynamics of prayer if you answer "Yes" to those two questions?
Do you not pray for the salvation of souls not yet born on this earth?
I ask these questions, for you to explore, and examine, and not as a conflict between us.
Probation ends at death. Nothing but the blood of Jesus can save the departed.
Prayers for the dead are not efficacious in any way.
We should pray for one another though.

Ecclesiastes 9:5 For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten.

9:6 Also their love, and their hatred, and their envy, is now perished; neither have they any more a portion for ever in any thing that is done under the sun.

Job tells us that the dead are no longer capable of anything. Hope this helps.
truth

Perth, Australia

#443470 May 21, 2013
Then think about falling of your systems political or religion any nation any tribe.
they sold generation upon generation to others masters

“Happy 2016!!”

Since: Apr 08

Saint Teresa Pray 4 Us.

#443471 May 21, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
Ox says about Mary, "She was nothing more than a lowly handmaiden.. period"
If I'm Jesus Christ, and someone insults my Mother like that, they are done! The gloves are off! lol.
Seriously, its not fun talking to someone like you that is so far removed from Jesus Christ its bizarre you'd call yourself a Christian.
What is wrong with these people????
Jesus is THE CENTER of our Daily Mass.
We can never love Mary more then Jesus does!
We honor Jesus' Mother as God wanted.
Honor your Father and Mother.

Something about Blessed Mary.
By Jon Jakoblich
There are some that say that the Bible really says very little about Mary. However, that is quite contrary to the truth. There are actually a lot of references to Our Lady. For some of these references, you have to do a little bit of digging.
Let’s start at the beginning of the Bible. She is first mentioned in Genesis 3:15, as the Woman whose offspring (Jesus) will crush the head of the serpent (Satan).
Genesis 3:15:
“I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your seed and her seed; he shall bruise your head, and you shall bruise his heel.”
We see her, again, in a prophecy in the book of Isaiah.
Isaiah 7:14:
“Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.”
Luke 1:28:
“Hail Mary, Full of Grace, the Lord is with thee! Blessed art thou among women!”
This translation is very familiar to Catholics and the Bible, but let’s take a look at how other translations read Luke 1:28.
KJV:
“…Hail, thou that art highly favoured, the Lord is with thee: blessed art thou among women.”
RSV:
“Hail, O favored one, the Lord is with you!”
NIV:
“Greetings, you who are highly favored! The Lord is with you.”
Luke 1:29:
“But she was greatly troubled at the saying, and considered in her mind what sort of greeting this might be.”
What else does the Bible say about Mary?
It tells us that she is the mother of God in no uncertain terms.
Matthew 1:20:
“But as he considered this, behold, an angel of the Lord appeared to him in a dream, saying,‘Joseph, son of David, do not fear to take Mary your wife, for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Spirit.’”
Matthew 2:11
“…and going into the house they saw the child with Mary his mother, and they fell
down and worshiped him. Then, opening their treasures, they offered him gifts, gold and frankincense and myrrh.”
Obviously if you are already a Christian then you know that this worship is not in vain since we are all taught that Mary was the mother of Jesus.
And here is another Catholic favorite:
Luke 1:41-43:
“And when Elizabeth heard the greeting of Mary, the babe leaped in her womb; and Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit and she exclaimed with a loud cry,“BLESSED ARE YOU AMONG WOMEN, AND BLESSED IS THE FRUIT OF YOUR WOMB!![emphasis added] And why is this granted me, that the mother of my Lord should come to me?”
Now, if Mary is “just another woman,” why would Elizabeth be in awe that she was granted a visit from “the mother of my lord?” It just doesn’t make sense that if Mary is any old person and not to be revered in some way that she is treated with such respect and has many honors bestowed upon her such as being “full of grace” and the other examples given.
The Bible shows us that Mary was the perfect example of obedience and humility.
Luke 1:38:
“And Mary said,‘Behold, I am the handmaid of the Lord; let it be to me according to your word.’ And the angel departed from her.”
It tells us how Mary meditated on all of God’s words and actions.
Luke 2:19:
“But Mary kept all these things, pondering them in her heart.”
It tells us that Jesus was obedient to her.
Luke 2:51:
“And he went down with them and came to Nazareth, and was obedient to them.”
First Miracle by a word from Blessed Mother...
John 2:3-10:

There's more but had to snip for space.

Clay

Garden City, MI

#443472 May 21, 2013
Tiger Lily wrote:
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Because we have ONE mediator between God and man.
Mary is dead. She is awaiiting her resurrection.
Correct. One mediator. We do not... I repeat...Do not bypass Jesus Christ by asking His Mother to pray for us to HIM.

Why do you say Mary is dead? I don't recall the Bible telling us how she died.
truth

Perth, Australia

#443473 May 21, 2013
they going created anything and sold your future and generation upon generation future they liked control your future=they told you i am going against you 4 generation..thousand thousand years many people and tribe as well nation not free..
now find way
your global evil digit
yee they going control
ha ha ha ha
so evil mean people
how in heaven will be on earth..if destruction on earth will be in heaven..every digit is horrible destruction every image..you been created on image

“Happy 2016!!”

Since: Apr 08

Saint Teresa Pray 4 Us.

#443474 May 21, 2013
marge wrote:
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The Bible says, and we say you added 7 books.
marge, if our Church is over 2000 years old and yours is only 100 or so years....how can you say we added, if we had the original Bible first??? You guys DELETED what you didn't like and changed it to fit your own agenda.
Tiger Lily

Auckland, New Zealand

#443475 May 21, 2013
Human Being wrote:
Tiger Lily:
I don't quite know what you mean?
For me, it is not so well defined with concepts and words. For our definitions fall short of God, and what God has in store for us in eternity. We are born as created beings in this world. And our physical bodies return to that dust.
But also all creation awaits the revelation of the children of God, as Paul writes.
Yet we know that we will have new bodies in a new heaven and earth. So what remains of physical memory, may be purified in God's Presence. And there may be a hierarchy of sorts, even as there are angels and archangels.
For me, Ecclesiastes (Solomon's) emphasis is that all is vanity. Vanity of vanities. Paul goes along with this in his description that all will pass away. And only faith, hope, and love remains.
Dust thou art and to dust thou shalt return.

However...
1 Corinthians 15:51-54 “Behold, I show you a mystery; We shall not all ***sleep***, but we shall all be changed,

52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.

54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.”

1 Thessalonians 4:15-17 “For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are ***asleep***.(Dead)

16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.”

Note that 1 Corinthians tells us we are to put on immortality and incorruption.

Alive, here on earth we are corrupt (can decay) and we are mortal (can die).
This happens after the resurrection of the just.

God alone is immortal. Bible says so. Catholics disagree.

Note that the dead are ***sleeping***.

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#443476 May 21, 2013
Just Sayin wrote:
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The Power of the Keys
By the Scholastic theologians the precise significance of the term was closely analysed.
(1) The view which is now universally accepted is exposed at length by Suárez (De Poenit., disp. xvi). According to him, the phrase as employed by Christ in His promise to St. Peter denotes the gift of ecclesiastical authority in its widest scope. This authority was to be in a sense peculiar to St. Peter and his successors in the chief pastorate; for they alone were to possess it in its fullness. But it was to be exercised in due measure by the other members of the Divinely instituted hierarchy according to their several degrees. Thus understood, the potestas clavium includes
•the power of order, namely power exercised in regard to sacrifice and sacrament,
•the power of jurisdiction, and
•the power to define in questions of faith and morals.
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/08631b.htm
You only go back and seek what you presuppose as "keys"(seems a great mystery), just as your "authority" has here. If you look deeper into the past, you may find the "keys" Jesus was referencing in the ancient Kingdom.

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