Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

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The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ. Full Story
Clay

Saint Paul, MN

#443121 May 20, 2013
Tiger Lily wrote:
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You speak beyond your authority.
What do you know about what I know?
Are you psychic? Or another God?
I have taught classes young and old on Scripture with full authority.
I have no need of a false Catholic Bible or any of the websites. Thank you.
You taught classes young and old on Scripture with full authority?
Who gave you the authority to teach that the whore of Bablylon is the Roman Catholic Church? Do you tell your students that the Catholic Church at Rome, put the Book of Revelation in the Bible? Of course not. They would obviously question why you said you're the authority to teach them.

What do you tell your students when they ask, "Tiger, how come Jesus never commands that a Christian Bible be established to rule His Ministry?" and 'Why do you teach that the Bible is the pillar and bulwark of Christianity, when the Apostle Paul says its the Church?"

Shut up kids, I am the authority to determine that!!

Repent Tiger before you're held into account for adding to the Book of Revelation. I mean this with love and not as an insult.
truth

Perth, Australia

#443122 May 20, 2013
its been one king call Nicodemus..he give order put this tree in hell..did they burn..no.
Lord Jesus Christ ..o Yes you are real Lord who can and who is as it is.

How its look..i find myself looking in Sun..yee so close..did been hot..no..did i burn..no..then how i become alive..who took me and bring back.
truth

Perth, Australia

#443123 May 20, 2013
'it is written blade of Jesus Christ'
Go away Satan from me.
Tiger Lily

New Zealand

#443124 May 20, 2013
http://www.youtube.com/watch... #!

Catholic Morality
Tiger Lily

New Zealand

#443125 May 20, 2013
Clay wrote:
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You taught classes young and old on Scripture with full authority?
Who gave you the authority to teach that the whore of Bablylon is the Roman Catholic Church? Do you tell your students that the Catholic Church at Rome, put the Book of Revelation in the Bible? Of course not. They would obviously question why you said you're the authority to teach them.
What do you tell your students when they ask, "Tiger, how come Jesus never commands that a Christian Bible be established to rule His Ministry?" and 'Why do you teach that the Bible is the pillar and bulwark of Christianity, when the Apostle Paul says its the Church?"
Shut up kids, I am the authority to determine that!!
Repent Tiger before you're held into account for adding to the Book of Revelation. I mean this with love and not as an insult.
BLAH BLAH BLAH. WHAT A LOAD OF ROT.

I had a priest tell me I had no authority to read (interpret for myself) the Bible.

He gave up when I pointed the truth in the Bible about the value to all of scripture.

He gave up on me when he realised I was not as ignorant as he had hoped.

Then he turned to my sister-in-law and started talking about things no priest should think about: hot chicks.

FAIL
truth

Perth, Australia

#443126 May 20, 2013
We as catholic know what is temptation and suffering we live in many way simple like that.. catholic as cristians been accuse as well prosecuted put in prison under abuse and assault as well kill on death..2000 years past nobody destroy religion..nobody destroy anything still people believe in name of Jesus Christ.

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#443127 May 20, 2013
Clay wrote:
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Yes He did. In fact, He commanded it.
"So i received from the Lord what I also deliver to you. That the Lord Jesus on the night He was betrayed took bread, gave thanks and broke it and said "This is my Body which is for you, DO THIS IN MEMORY OF ME. In a similar way He took the chalice, after giving thanks he said, "this chalice is the new covenant in my blood, DO THIS AS OFTEN AS YOU DRINK IT, IN REMEMBERENCE OF ME"
1Cor 11:23
This is called the Eucharist and the center of the Holy Mass.
Justin Martyr, first century Christian on the Catholic Mass in 155 AD
www.youtube.com/watch...
You neglected to answer the main intent of rebutal of the ridiculous statement you made...
here it is...

Clay wrote:
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The question was: The modern born again movement began in the 20th century. Prior to that, You had essentially Lutherans, Methodist, Anglicans and Presbyterians - all spawning from Luther, Calvin, the King of England, and John Wesley. Now, your Christianity looks entirely different then those, so I assume they are NOT true Born Agains?
So I can conclude that you believe Jesus Christ waited to y'all did your alter call, to reveal His true Ministry??
please explain if I am wrong. I'm trying to understand your theology and why no two 'born agains' on this forum can agree on very important Christian teachings.
truth

Perth, Australia

#443128 May 20, 2013
God Governor world but Prayers Govern God.

Pray pray pray..more pray more better..rosary is great weapons bless water bless salt as well Cross.
marge

Ames, IA

#443129 May 20, 2013
Regina wrote:
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Kay just posted something about the Transfiguration. That event counters the SDA unbiblical belief in soul sleep. It's curious that she won't say anything to you about it, so perhaps you should initiate a discussion with her. As far as I know, Pentecostals don't believe in soul sleep, but that could probably change at any moment.
'Asleep in Jesus' is the correct term, thus they can be woken, but most of the time their resting.

They can't hear you Regina.
truth

Perth, Australia

#443130 May 20, 2013
God can hear when you cry as well pray as well when you shouting too..Jesus know everything you can't hide nothing at all.
'it is written blade blade blade of Jesus Christ wash our sins of the world'.
Regina

Long Branch, NJ

#443131 May 20, 2013
Clay wrote:
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You taught classes young and old on Scripture with full authority?
Who gave you the authority to teach that the whore of Bablylon is the Roman Catholic Church? Do you tell your students that the Catholic Church at Rome, put the Book of Revelation in the Bible? Of course not. They would obviously question why you said you're the authority to teach them.
What do you tell your students when they ask, "Tiger, how come Jesus never commands that a Christian Bible be established to rule His Ministry?" and 'Why do you teach that the Bible is the pillar and bulwark of Christianity, when the Apostle Paul says its the Church?"
Shut up kids, I am the authority to determine that!!
Repent Tiger before you're held into account for adding to the Book of Revelation. I mean this with love and not as an insult.
In other words, he's just another protestant paper pope!
Self-declared, a legend in his own mind!
Regina

Long Branch, NJ

#443132 May 20, 2013
marge wrote:
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'Asleep in Jesus' is the correct term, thus they can be woken, but most of the time their resting.
They can't hear you Regina.
Soul sleep is unbiblical, Marge.
I thought we went through this with you a few years ago. Do you remember when I had to practically beg your so-called "brothers" and "sisters" to straighten you out? They finally came through and told you to cut it out. Now you're at it again.

Stop letting yourself be tossed about with every wind of doctrine. Just because someone posts something anti-Catholic and tickles your ears, doesn't mean you should align yourself with them. I know that's what all of you do, but it's obvious and stupid. Be different from the other fundies, have some integrity.
Clay

Saint Paul, MN

#443133 May 20, 2013
Tiger Lily wrote:
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BLAH BLAH BLAH. WHAT A LOAD OF ROT.
I had a priest tell me I had no authority to read (interpret for myself) the Bible.
He gave up when I pointed the truth in the Bible about the value to all of scripture.
He gave up on me when he realised I was not as ignorant as he had hoped.
Then he turned to my sister-in-law and started talking about things no priest should think about: hot chicks.
FAIL
The Priest likely gave up like most of us do, when we confront a 9/11 conspiracy fanatic.
Nothing we tell them will change their mind. We can show them letters from the terrorist to their mothers (hypothetically)- explaining that they are going to be a martyr by flying a plane into the building on this exact date at this exact time, and they will not believe it. Why? Because people thrive off secret conspiracy crap.
You won't ever admit you're wrong and that you added to Johns Prophecy by teaching that he's talking about the Roman Catholic Church. We showed you his words in bold plain writing, what will happen to you for doing that, and you STILL will not accept it.

As long as you can control sacred scriptures with your mind, nobody can tell you otherwise!

"You are Peter, and ON THIS ROCK"
Nope, thats not what he meant.

"This is my Body"
Nope he didnt mean literally

"If I am delayed, no how to behave in the household of God, which is the Church of the living God, the Pillar and Bulwark of truth"

Nope, the Church isnt the pillar and bulwark of truth, the Bible is.

Sola Scripture is convenient for those of you who wish to design your own christianity. You simply can reject and accept anything you see fit. Such mentality could only have come from the Devil..
Tiger Lily

New Zealand

#443134 May 20, 2013
marge wrote:
'Asleep in Jesus' is the correct term, thus they can be woken, but most of the time their resting.
They can't hear you Regina.
If Regina wishes to ignore the many texts which point out that the dead await a resurrection that is her problem.

Death is a Sleep...

Job 14:12 The dead “shall not awake, nor be raised out of their sleep” until “the heavens be no more.”

Psalms 13:3 “Lest I sleep the sleep of death.”

Daniel 12:2 “Many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake.”

Acts 7:60 When Stephen died,“he fell asleep.”

John 11:11-14 “Lazarus sleeps … Jesus spoke of his death.”

1 Corinthians 11:30; 15:6, 18, 51 Paul said death was “sleep.”

1 Thessalonians 4:13-16 Those “which sleep in Jesus” will be resurrected.

Still don't believe in the Bible?

Still think one text proves this wrong?
truth

Perth, Australia

#443135 May 20, 2013
then i walk and talk between them..o simo..what you doing simo..he collecting dead body..oh he say ..more will come..who..all of them sleep nobody say nothing even zuc..no any movement..but i walk and i talk i see i been there..

then one time i see i walk ones more but i did not see who..but i remember i come with 'light'..yes its bring me in light..i walk between them..yee i see they are alive..but some of them..what i see in blade..they liked died but can't'..

then i see again its took me for my hand and bring me here trough future in this city nothing exist trough street dead body nobody alive..i walk i talk in presence as i am today..yes i walk ones more ..i wealk between them i call i talk i try know whats happen..but this time i see who is that man..he who is at is ..no better friend..which Jesus is friend he is the best best friend who is as it is..but i been alive with my family we walk we talk we see each other as we so today i walk and talk i see i been save.

'who is that friend..no better friend'
Tiger Lily

New Zealand

#443136 May 20, 2013
The Dead are Unconscious...

Psalms 115:17 “The dead praise not the Lord, neither any that go down into silence.”

Psalms 146:4 When a man dies,“in that very day his thoughts perish.”

Ecclesiastes 9:5 “The dead know not anything.”

Ecclesiastes 9:10 “There is no work... nor knowledge, nor wisdom, in the grave.”

Is this unbiblical, Regina? How so?
Tiger Lily

New Zealand

#443137 May 20, 2013
All Believers will be Resurrected when Jesus Christ Returns...

1 Thessalonians 4:16-18 “The Lord himself shall descend ... the dead ... shall rise ... to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.”

1 Corinthians 15:50-55 The saints cry out,“0 death, where is thy sting” when they are resurrected at the second coming of Jesus.
John 14:1-3 Jesus will take us to heaven when He “comes again.”

1 Corinthians 15:12-23 Paul says there is a resurrection of both Christ and the dead,“but every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.”

Still think the dead are not really dead?

John 14:2-3 says,“In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.

3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there you may be also.”

So this is what happens when we die from the Word of God and by no man’s interpretation.

This leaves only one conclusion to those who believe they have spoken to loved ones in séances etc.

Since the dead sleep until the second coming of Christ, theses manifestations have to be demons masquerading as our loved ones to deceive us.

As for Purgatory, it is found nowhere in the Bible and was manufactured by the Papacy as a means of extorting money from people through the dark ages.

No offence intended to the many wonderful people
in the Roman Catholic Church.
Truth is truth and this is the truth about what happens when we die. As there is no consciousness of time in sleep, the moment we close our eyes we will see Jesus coming in the clouds of Angels.

Since: Sep 09

Vanderhoof, Canada

#443138 May 20, 2013
So let me get this straight.

Jesus has to save lost souls, otherwise they will burn in a hell that Jesus' father allows to exist.

And those who believe in a god, claim that the god is love.

It would be difficult to find a teaching that is more screwed up than the teaching of religion.

:)
Tiger Lily

New Zealand

#443139 May 20, 2013
Ecclesiastes 9:10 “Whatsoever your hand findeth to do, do it with your might; for there is no work, nor device, nor knowledge, nor wisdom, in the grave, whither you goest.”

Job 14:12 “So man lieth down, and riseth not: till the heavens be no more, they shall not awake, nor be raised out of their sleep.”

Psalms 13:3 “Consider and hear me, O LORD my God: lighten mine eyes, lest I sleep the sleep of death;”

If I was in heaven, I most definitely would be praising the Lord. How about you?
Tiger Lily

New Zealand

#443140 May 20, 2013
Clay wrote:
..."You are Peter, and ON THIS ROCK"
Nope, thats not what he meant.
"This is my Body"
Nope he didnt mean literally
"If I am delayed, no how to behave in the household of God, which is the Church of the living God, the Pillar and Bulwark of truth"
Nope, the Church isnt the pillar and bulwark of truth, the Bible is.
Sola Scripture is convenient for those of you who wish to design your own christianity. You simply can reject and accept anything you see fit. Such mentality could only have come from the Devil..
You are confused, Clay.
"Thou art Petros, and upon this Petra, I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it."

Jesus was using a play on words,“thou art Peter (Petros = little stone), and upon this rock (petra = large rock) I will build my church...

Jesus referred to Peter as a little stone, and to Himself as a large rock.

Jesus is the chief corner-stone. He was referring to Himself, the large rock, in which the church would be built upon, not Peter.

It is Jesus Christ that the gates of Hell shall not prevail against, not sinful, weak, mortal man.


In the very same chapter Jesus turns to Peter and calls him Satan because Peter had tried to turn Jesus away from going to the Cross to die for sinners: "But he turned and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offense unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men" (Matt. 16:23).
And you say he was a pope!?!?!

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