Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

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Clay

Saint Paul, MN

#443093 May 20, 2013
LTM wrote:
<quoted text>
Your is not the same either Clay depending on who is pope.
What once was sin isn't any more and what once wasn't is plus the Vatican add 7 things that are sins now.
Please explain this. What previous sins has the vatican now changed?

They added 7 things that are sins too? Like what, pornography and gay marriage? well excuuuuse them, I don't think those were issues 100 yrs ago.
Tiger Lily

New Zealand

#443094 May 20, 2013
Regina wrote:
He is not the God of the dead, but of the living. You therefore do greatly err. Mark 12:27
He is not the God of the dead, but of the living. You are badly mistaken!"
He is not God of the dead, but of the living. You are quite wrong.”
He is not God of the dead but of the living. You are badly deceived."
Gee, looks like all the non-Christians who think the saints are dead are badly mistaken, quite wrong, badly deceived, and greatly err. Oh, well, their loss.
Why then does the Bible tell us we sleep until a resurrection?

http://www.thetruthaboutdeath.org/
http://www.thetruthabouthell.org/

Only a false church teaches natural immortality.
Proof positive that the RCC is the Wh0re of Babylon.

Death is sleep. David spoke of “the sleep of death”(Psalms 13:3). All throughout the Old Testament, when kings died, they “slept with their fathers”(1 Kings 2:10).

The same is true in the New Testament. When Lazarus died, Jesus Christ said,“Our friend Lazarus is sleeping… Jesus spoke of his death”(John 11:11 -13).

After Stephen was martyred,“he fell asleep”(Acts 7:60). Dead Christians “sleep in Jesus”(1 Thessalonians 4:14).

Daniel wrote that at the end of time,“many who sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt”(Daniel 12:2).

Thus the dead are sleeping in the dust of the earth. Someday, they will wake up.

Finally, the Christians’ hope is the return of Jesus Christ and the resurrection. When our Lord returns,“the dead in Christ shall rise… so shall we ever be with the Lord”(1 Thessalonians 4:16, 17).

Look closely. Paul said Christians will “be with the Lord” when He returns.

Jesus taught the same thing when He promised His disciples,“I will come again, and receive you to Myself”(John 14:3).

Again, look closely. Jesus did not say,“I’ll meet you in Heaven when you die,” but that He would receive us when He returns.

Ultimately, Bible truth about death is comforting. Our beloved dead are sleeping quietly, awaiting the resurrection when Jesus returns.

Truth also protects us from being deceived by heartless, tricky demons who can easily impersonate the dead. I encourage my readers to continue studying this topic prayerfully.

I’ll conclude with the words of Jesus Christ Himself:
Do not marvel at this; for the hour is coming in which all who are in the graves will hear His voice and come forth - those who have done good, to the resurrection of life, and those who have done evil, to the resurrection of condemnation (John 5:28, 29, NKJV).

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#443095 May 20, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
leave it to you to dig up a 12th century writing from a Pope that you undoubtedly snatched from a fanatical website..
One obvious point of your quote is that there was no such thing as Protestantism when the Pope said that. There was only the Catholic Church - including the Eastern Orthodox. His comments would be directed towards those that FIRST heard the Gospel, then were able to make a decision.
got anymore quotes from a thousand yrs ago?? lol
Paul's writings?
Revelation?
Tiger Lily

New Zealand

#443096 May 20, 2013
How can the Bible tell us ...
Do not marvel at this; for the hour is coming in which all who are in the graves will hear His voice and come forth - those who have done good, to the resurrection of life, and those who have done evil, to the resurrection of condemnation (John 5:28, 29, NKJV).?

How can there be duplicitous existence: one as a spirit in Heaven and one as a body in the grave?

Belief in a spirit which goes to a Nirvana is commonly believed in religions such as Spiritualist, Buddhist, Islam and many others.

Christ taught us of a resurrection of the dead.

Why do you not believe Him?
Regina

Long Branch, NJ

#443097 May 20, 2013
Wherefore seeing we also are compassed about with so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which doth so easily beset [us], and let us run with patience the race that is set before us.(Hebrews 12:1)

Jesus said unto her, "I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believes in me, though he dies, yet shall he live. And whosoever lives and believes in me shall never die." (John 11:25-26)

Since: Sep 09

Vanderhoof, Canada

#443098 May 20, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
<quoted text>
You are correct I made the error in reading the post accurately.
http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TV910R5...
My apologies.
Apology accepted. Thank you.
Clay

Saint Paul, MN

#443099 May 20, 2013
Tiger Lily wrote:
<quoted text>
Why then does the Bible tell us we sleep until a resurrection?
http://www.thetruthaboutdeath.org/
http://www.thetruthabouthell.org/
Only a false church teaches natural immortality.
Proof positive that the RCC is the Wh0re of Babylon.
Death is sleep. David spoke of “the sleep of death”(Psalms 13:3). All throughout the Old Testament, when kings died, they “slept with their fathers”(1 Kings 2:10).
The same is true in the New Testament. When Lazarus died, Jesus Christ said,“Our friend Lazarus is sleeping… Jesus spoke of his death”(John 11:11 -13).
After Stephen was martyred,“he fell asleep”(Acts 7:60). Dead Christians “sleep in Jesus”(1 Thessalonians 4:14).
Daniel wrote that at the end of time,“many who sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt”(Daniel 12:2).
Thus the dead are sleeping in the dust of the earth. Someday, they will wake up.
Finally, the Christians’ hope is the return of Jesus Christ and the resurrection. When our Lord returns,“the dead in Christ shall rise… so shall we ever be with the Lord”(1 Thessalonians 4:16, 17).
Look closely. Paul said Christians will “be with the Lord” when He returns.
Jesus taught the same thing when He promised His disciples,“I will come again, and receive you to Myself”(John 14:3).
Again, look closely. Jesus did not say,“I’ll meet you in Heaven when you die,” but that He would receive us when He returns.
Ultimately, Bible truth about death is comforting. Our beloved dead are sleeping quietly, awaiting the resurrection when Jesus returns.
Truth also protects us from being deceived by heartless, tricky demons who can easily impersonate the dead. I encourage my readers to continue studying this topic prayerfully.
I’ll conclude with the words of Jesus Christ Himself:
Do not marvel at this; for the hour is coming in which all who are in the graves will hear His voice and come forth - those who have done good, to the resurrection of life, and those who have done evil, to the resurrection of condemnation (John 5:28, 29, NKJV).
But what happens to those who add their own opinions on the Book of Revelation?

Here, let me help you out so you don't step off the cliff:

"I warn every one who hears the words of the Prophecy of this Book: If anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book, and if anyone takes away from the words of this book, God will take away his share of the tree of life and the Holy City which are described in this book"

So, are you sure the RCC is the 'whore of Babylon"? So sure that you'll risk your eternal salvation???
Remember, no one in Christianity ever thought the whore of Babylon was the Roman Catholic Church. It was the PAGAN ROMAN EMPIRE. The prophecy likely came and gone. Now you guys say its the Church.

If i was you, I would leave it alone. You dumb asses do not know what you're tampering with! How arrogant does one have to be to completely ignore such a blatant warning from John the Apostle?

Since: Sep 09

Vanderhoof, Canada

#443100 May 20, 2013
Human Being wrote:
<quoted text>
June VanDerMark:
I don't understand your question. Are you assuming that I have not examined and believe that there are truths in other religions? I have and believe.
Since religions in general promote salvation your second question is a bit circular in reasoning. But for me Christianity has one thing all other religions do not, and that is salvation is not dependent on works.
So you believe faith alone in the name Jesus will save you???

Save you from what? A god's wrath???

:)
Regina

Long Branch, NJ

#443101 May 20, 2013
Tiger Lily wrote:
How can the Bible tell us ...
Do not marvel at this; for the hour is coming in which all who are in the graves will hear His voice and come forth - those who have done good, to the resurrection of life, and those who have done evil, to the resurrection of condemnation (John 5:28, 29, NKJV).?
How can there be duplicitous existence: one as a spirit in Heaven and one as a body in the grave?
Belief in a spirit which goes to a Nirvana is commonly believed in religions such as Spiritualist, Buddhist, Islam and many others.
Christ taught us of a resurrection of the dead.
Why do you not believe Him?
Kay just posted something about the Transfiguration. That event counters the SDA unbiblical belief in soul sleep. It's curious that she won't say anything to you about it, so perhaps you should initiate a discussion with her. As far as I know, Pentecostals don't believe in soul sleep, but that could probably change at any moment.

Since: Sep 09

Vanderhoof, Canada

#443102 May 20, 2013
Religion A Delusion wrote:
<quoted text>
You need my help.
You keep getting angry and calling names. That is unChristian.
You should love me. Remember, we agree on 99% of all the gods of mankind. We only disagree on one. That's no reason to call someone you're supposed to love "genocidal."
I'm a big enough man to forgive, so I forgive you. I hope you can do the same when you become a real Christian.
Had Jesus lived he might not have called you names, but he would have stood by and watched his dad and the devil agree that you needed to burn in hell.

I'd rather be called names.

:)
Clay

Saint Paul, MN

#443103 May 20, 2013
Tiger Lily wrote:
How can the Bible tell us ...
Do not marvel at this; for the hour is coming in which all who are in the graves will hear His voice and come forth - those who have done good, to the resurrection of life, and those who have done evil, to the resurrection of condemnation (John 5:28, 29, NKJV).?
How can there be duplicitous existence: one as a spirit in Heaven and one as a body in the grave?
Belief in a spirit which goes to a Nirvana is commonly believed in religions such as Spiritualist, Buddhist, Islam and many others.
Christ taught us of a resurrection of the dead.
Why do you not believe Him?
This might be way over your head, as you do not know enough yet about scripture nor or you an authority to teach sacred scripture...

www.catholicbible101.com/therapture.htm
marge

Ames, IA

#443104 May 20, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
THEIR SPIRITS ARE ALIVE
BUT
THEIR BODIES ARE EITHER IN THE DUST OF THE EARTH OR THEY ARE
DECOMPOSING...
~~~
THE MUSIC OF BEETHOVEN AND BACH IS BEING PLAYED BACKWARDS FROM THEIR GRAVES....
.RIGHT?
THE COMPOSERS ARE DE-COMPOSING...lol
34And Jesus answering said to them, The children of this world marry, and are given in marriage: 35But they which shall be accounted worthy to obtain that world, and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry, nor are given in marriage: 36Neither can they die any more: for they are equal to the angels; and are the children of God, being the children of the resurrection.

Since: Sep 09

Vanderhoof, Canada

#443105 May 20, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
<quoted text>
I agree with your posts here.
I'm not expecting any one to believe me, and my personal experience, although I do I have witness to the occurrance who was with me.
And of course, you should beleive what works for you, or for your own comfort zone.
And I do know what you mena on getting fooled. I think we've all been down that road before.
IMO - Christianity misuses this "comfort zone" that people fall into, for their own bidding - to acquire followers.
I would bet that if those men who chose the "Christian" beliefs and what they are, hadn't done that, many of what men and women beleive today, probably would not be the same as in the past, and they would probably be doing their own thing. And you probably wouldn't even have the many kinds of religion that exist in society.
If religion was based on truth, people would all agree, and there would only be one belief.
marge

Ames, IA

#443106 May 20, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
who="Regina" He is not the God of the dead, but of the living. You therefore do greatly err. Mark 12:27
He is not the God of the dead, but of the living. You are badly mistaken!"
He is not God of the dead, but of the living. You are quite wrong.”
He is not God of the dead but of the living. You are badly deceived."
Gee, looks like all the non-Christians who think the saints are dead are badly mistaken, quite wrong, badly deceived, and greatly err. Oh, well, their loss.
**********
God is God of all, and He can communicate with them. Remember Jesus meeting with Moses and Elijah on the Mt. of Transfiguration?
But no one on 'this side' has the power to communicate with them.
KayMarie
38He is not the God of the dead, but of the living, for to him all are alive.”
Religion A Delusion

Titusville, FL

#443107 May 20, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
Had Jesus lived he might not have called you names, but he would have stood by and watched his dad and the devil agree that you needed to burn in hell.
I'd rather be called names.
:)
There are heartless, tricky demons on this board.

He needs our help.
Tiger Lily

New Zealand

#443109 May 20, 2013
Regina wrote:
Wherefore seeing we also are compassed about with so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which doth so easily beset [us], and let us run with patience the race that is set before us.(Hebrews 12:1)
Jesus said unto her, "I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believes in me, though he dies, yet shall he live. And whosoever lives and believes in me shall never die." (John 11:25-26)
Note that?

I am the RESURRECTION !!!!

If you are resurrected you PUT ON immortality.
Whoever is resurrected in the FIRST resurrection puts on immortality. Until then, they sleep.

KJV. 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18
13 But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope.

14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.

15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.

16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words.

Sincere Catholics often bow down before a statue of a SAINT and devoutly pray, even though the saint is DEAD. But the Roman Church doesn’t teach that they’re dead.

Even though the idea that man’s soul is naturally immortal is a PAGAN one. All the ancient pagan religions, without exception had the idea that the soul, or man’s essential being, was immortal.

That non-biblical concept, inherited from Babylon was a common thread running through them all. In Egypt for instance, the pyramids were great monuments, great houses for the dead to hold their immortal spirits.

But the heathen idea of man’s soul being naturally immortal comes from Egypt and Babylon and Greece, not the Bible whose teaching directly contradicts it.

See such verses as 1 Timothy 6:15-16, Ezekiel 18:4, 20, Ecclesiastes 9:5, Psalm 6:5; 13:3; 115:17, John 11:11-14, Ephesians 5:14 etc.
Tiger Lily

New Zealand

#443110 May 20, 2013
marge wrote:
34And Jesus answering said to them, The children of this world marry, and are given in marriage:
35But they which shall be accounted worthy to obtain that world, and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry, nor are given in marriage:
36Neither can they die any more: for they are equal to the angels; and are the children of God, being the children of the resurrection.
So true, marge.
Catholics teach that some are in Heaven without having been resurrected as these verses teach us.

Children of the RESURRECTION.

Somehow that word is meaningless to Catholics.
Religion A Delusion

Titusville, FL

#443111 May 20, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
Please explain this. What previous sins has the vatican now changed?
They added 7 things that are sins too? Like what, pornography and gay marriage? well excuuuuse them, I don't think those were issues 100 yrs ago.
Usury.

The keeping of slaves.

Catholic marrying a non-Catholic maybe?

How many examples are required on this test?
Tiger Lily

New Zealand

#443112 May 20, 2013
Clay wrote:
This might be way over your head, as you do not know enough yet about scripture nor or you an authority to teach sacred scripture...
www.catholicbible101.com/therapture.htm
You speak beyond your authority.
What do you know about what I know?

Are you psychic? Or another God?

I have taught classes young and old on Scripture with full authority.

I have no need of a false Catholic Bible or any of the websites. Thank you.
Tiger Lily

New Zealand

#443113 May 20, 2013
But Christ has indeed been raised from the dead, the firstfruits of those who have fallen asleep. For since death came through a man, the resurrection of the dead comes also through a man. For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive. But each in his own turn: Christ, the firstfruits; then, when he comes, those who belong to him.
1 Corinthians 15:20-23;
http://www.truthaboutdeath.com/truth_about_de...
Nothing about going to Heaven or being alive BEFORE a resurrection!

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