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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 650853 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#442782 May 19, 2013
Black Thunder 42 wrote:
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Oh. I must have been misinformed. I was told that Jesus came "for" the sinners"...not "against them".
It appears the catholics have a different interpretation of Jesus words, and are not here to save them, but to condemn them.
Sounds more like the followers of your satan to me.
Once again, we agree. <smile>
truthprevails

Alpharetta, GA

#442783 May 19, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
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The world is a far safer and happier place since your religion no longer runs things.
I am glad we no longer have century long Inquisitions and Crusades and that your ilk are no longer allowed to murder innocent people because they don't believe your lies.
Jesus Christ is still in control whether you heathens believe it or not!

Frankly, the atheists and heathens of this world have caused more chaos and evil than any entity.

The truth prevails:

Atheist/Communist Murders through the 17th-20th Centuries

Since: Sep 09

Terrace, Canada

#442784 May 19, 2013
truthprevails wrote:
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Speaking of brute like violence, your atheism has caused more of that than Christianity.
http://www.investigatingatheism.info/violence...
oh.. btw.. that's from the University of Cambridge, so I'm not just popping off at the mouth like you are.
Those who seek power over others come in all systems of belief ... but religion is supposed to behave in a kind manner ... not be violent to others.
OldJG

Rockford, IL

#442785 May 19, 2013
Was Peter ever in Rome? Well, according to Paul and Luke he was not. Gee, I wonder. Did the Roman Catholics make up what the call "apostolic succession"? Gosh, they surely did. Go figure.

Acts 28:16-24

16 And when we came into Rome, Paul was allowed to stay by himself, with the soldier who guarded him.
Paul in Rome

17 After three days he called together the local leaders of the Jews, and when they had gathered, he said to them,“Brothers, though I had done nothing against our people or the customs of our fathers, yet I was delivered as a prisoner from Jerusalem into the hands of the Romans.

18 When they had examined me, they wished to set me at liberty, because there was no reason for the death penalty in my case.

19 But because the Jews objected, I was compelled to appeal to Caesar—though I had no charge to bring against my nation.

20 For this reason, therefore, I have asked to see you and speak with you, since it is because of the hope of Israel that I am wearing this chain.”

21 And they said to him,“We have received no letters from Judea about you, and none of the brothers coming here has reported or spoken any evil about you.

22 But we desire to hear from you what your views are, for with regard to this sect we know that everywhere it is spoken against.”

23 When they had appointed a day for him, they came to him at his lodging in greater numbers. From morning till evening he expounded to them, testifying to the kingdom of God and trying to convince them about Jesus both from the Law of Moses and from the Prophets.

24 And some were convinced by what he said, but others disbelieved.

Since: Sep 09

Terrace, Canada

#442786 May 19, 2013
Microbe Hunters by Paul de Kruif … published 1926

“Life lives on life—it is cruel, but it is God’s will,”
truthprevails

Alpharetta, GA

#442787 May 19, 2013
To the atheist trolls:

"For what can be known about God is plain to them, because God has shown it to them."
truthprevails

Alpharetta, GA

#442788 May 19, 2013
Hey, all you atheists, doesn't look too good for you:

"But as for the cowardly, the faithless, the detestable, as for murderers, the sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars, their portion will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur, which is the second death.” Our Lord and our God, Jesus Christ

Since: Sep 09

Terrace, Canada

#442789 May 19, 2013
truthprevails wrote:
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Jesus Christ is still in control whether you heathens believe it or not!
Is your image of Jesus as cruel as you want it to be yet ... or do you have to train it some more to suit your desires?
truthprevails

Alpharetta, GA

#442790 May 19, 2013
And Peter said to them, “Repent and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#442791 May 19, 2013
Dust Storm wrote:
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I see so do you have the records of this begging of the Pope? lol He was asserting as fact something that was not able to be proven. It was more a trial of his peers who opposed his theory. The reality is others such as copernicus before him had floated it. The church did not have a problem with a theory. It had a problem with someone who was proclaming as fact something which clearly could not yet be proven and insisting on making it a theological debate. He was not tortured. His stating it as fact was. If he had stayed within the boundaries of science he would have been fine. Even under house arrest after his theory was condemned he was provided servants and continued work. The theory was not shut out but claiming something to fact is another story. Clearly the Jesuits continued to study. Whether you agree with the big bang theory or not is irrelevant. He was a Catholic and highly praised by the likes of Albert Einstein and peers. The difference is things being presented as a hypothesis and entering into the realm of theology without examining all the ways to view or understand something is quite another. The panel was wrong to have condemned it but it certainly did not mean noone was allowed to work on providing evidence to further theories. Sorry but the church is, was and always has been a leader in science. You dont know what you are talking about.
The papacy denied and suppressed scientific(empirical evidence, mathematical calculations, and observed evidence)m as it did not match with it's perceived "notion" which was totally incorrect.
It has finally made apology for such arrogance and willful neglect of actuality...only because it could no longer hold a shread of evidence or denial of the actuality which preceded the understanding of a solar centered system.
You are drowning in your arrogance and denial of the truth.

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#442792 May 19, 2013
truthprevails wrote:
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Jesus Christ is still in control whether you heathens believe it or not!...
A dead Rabbi is running the show ?

No wonder you hate Jews so much.
OldJG

Rockford, IL

#442793 May 19, 2013
Iraeneus: "The blessed apostles, then, having founded and built up the Church, committed into the hands of Linus the office of the episcopate. Of this Linus, Paul makes mention in the Epistles to Timothy. To him succeeded Anacletus; and after him, in the third place from the apostles, Clement was allotted the bishopric..... To this Clement there succeeded Evaristus. Alexander followed Evaristus; then, sixth from the apostles, Sixtus was appointed; after him, Telephorus, who was gloriously martyred; then Hyginus; after him, Pius; then after him, Anicetus. Sorer having succeeded Anicetus, Eleutherius does now, in the twelfth place from the apostles, hold the inheritance of the episcopate. In this order, and by this succession, the ecclesiastical tradition from the apostles, and the preaching of the truth, have come down to us. And this is most abundant proof that there is one and the same vivifying faith, which has been preserved in the Church from the apostles until now, and handed down in truth.(SOURCE: Iraeneus Against Heresies, Volume I, Book III, Para 3)

Note that Iraeneus clearly states that Linus was first bishop of Rome - not Peter. Iraeneus then gives us the identity of the first twelve Bishops of Rome:

1. Linus
2. Anacletus
3. Clement
4. Evaristus
5. Alexander
6. Sixtus
7. Ignatius (Telephorus)
8. Huginus
9. Pius
10. Anicetus
11. Sorer
12. Eleutherius

Notice that Peter's name is not found in the above list. Notice also that according to Iraeneus, it was Paul, not Peter, who appointed Linus the first bishop of Rome. So much for early papal authority.
Dust Storm

Minneapolis, MN

#442794 May 19, 2013
Black Thunder 42 wrote:
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Not even one mention of support for research to Galileo.
Pure catholic apologetic....there was none....
His writings and scientific conclusion was prohibited from 1605 till his death in 1642, and then until recent history by the CC.
Again, probably the only reason he was not put put to death even with forcible recant, was that he was supported by a large faction of Jesuits.
No account of Galileo's importance to philosophy can be complete if it does not discuss Galileo's condemnation and the Galileo affair (Finocchiaro 1989). The end of the episode is simply stated. In late 1632, after publishing Dialogues on the Two Chief World Systems, Galileo was ordered to go to Rome to be examined by the Holy Office of the Inquisition. In January 1633, a very ill Galileo made an arduous journey to Rome. Finally, in April 1633 Galileo was called before the Holy Office. This was tantamount to a charge of heresy, and he was urged to repent (Shea and Artigas, 183f). Specifically, he had been charged with teaching and defending the Copernican doctrine that holds that the Sun is at the center of the universe and that the earth moves. This doctrine had been deemed heretical in 1616, and Copernicus' book had placed on the index of prohibited books, pending correction.
"Galileo was called four times for a hearing; the last was on June 21, 1633. The next day, 22 June, Galileo was taken to the church of Santa Maria sopra Minerva, and ordered to kneel while his sentence was read. It was declared that he was “vehemently suspect of heresy”. Galileo was made to recite and sign a formal abjuration:
I have been judged vehemently suspect of heresy, that is, of having held and believed that the sun in the centre of the universe and immoveable, and that the earth is not at the center of same, and that it does move. Wishing however, to remove from the minds of your Eminences and all faithful Christians this vehement suspicion reasonably conceived against me, I abjure with a sincere heart and unfeigned faith, I curse and detest the said errors and heresies, and generally all and every error, heresy, and sect contrary to the Holy Catholic Church.(Quoted in Shea and Artigas 194)
Galileo was not imprisoned but had his sentence commuted to house arrest. In December 1633 he was allowed to retire to his villa in Arcetri, outside of Florence."
http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/galileo/
Despite his house arrest Galileo publishes Discorsi e dimostrazioni mathematiche intorno a due nuove scienze attenenti alla meccanica (Dialogue Concerning Two New Sciences, a work about the principles of mechanics.


1638
Galileo makes the discovery, months before he went completely blind, that the moon makes monthly wobbles on its axis, called liberations.

Do the Math Genius on when he was put under house arrest and publishing and finding of these discoveries. Yep he was eating bread and water and in solitary confinement. Geesh. Mocking the Pope who had given him a way to not upset his protractors. Holding a theory and mocking the hand that feeds you not a good idea. Sorry but Galileo is far from the mark of proving science was stifled or the pitiful argument that science flourished after Luther. lol
truthprevails

Alpharetta, GA

#442795 May 19, 2013
Horrific human toll of 'militant atheism' exposed

http://www.wnd.com/2013/03/horrific-human-tol...

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#442796 May 19, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
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Those who seek power over others come in all systems of belief ... but religion is supposed to behave in a kind manner ... not be violent to others.
My apologies for thinking you were a "Christian" earlier.

Seems, however, you understand the teachings of Jesus better than they do.
truthprevails

Alpharetta, GA

#442797 May 19, 2013
ATHEIST ORGANIZATIONS' AGENDA

http://atheismexposed.tripod.com/atheist_agen...
Clay

Garden City, MI

#442798 May 19, 2013
LTM wrote:
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All the stuff that the catholic church has done how charitable of them. That's like saying go pee on a farmers crops when there is a draught.
Its not enough Clay, to whom much is given, much is required.
How can the Pope and the rest in the Vatican sit down and dine on fine wines and 3 course meals when so many are dying of starvation.
With the little the Vatican does they don't even scratch the surface.
They demand money from the people who have very little, and the riches the Vatican has is stolen it does not belong to them or the catholic church.
Don't tell me I don't know about the catholic church Clay I do, I went to church with my children and Husband, for years.
confirmations and communion of 4 children.
Next to you I am a bible scholar, because you are illiterate when it comes to the Holy Scripture.
What you know comes second handed and only here say , and given to you orally from someone who doesn't know what he is talking about because he doesn't understand the bible either because he got his info the same way you did.
I looked at both sides before I committed to Catholicism.
I see a colossal doctrinal mess throughout Protestantism. They all teach different things. I can plainly see the chaos.

Every single sect of yours was clearly started by some guy and not Jesus Christ. The Church Jesus started is the Catholic Church. I'm going all in with them because I have actual faith in Christ.(not to mention, you guys fail miserably trying to discredit Catholicism and you literally need to lie in order to try it. That's a fact LTM. Fact!)

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#442799 May 19, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
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So because I don't beleive in your religion I am automatically an atheist ?
You just proved you are either a liar or a moron.
Is that what your religion does to you ?
Yes. That is what it does.
Now you may understand why I almost NEVER say "GOD"...but rather the ALL. You words are always misconstrued to mean a "limited to human attribute deity".
truthprevails

Alpharetta, GA

#442800 May 19, 2013
The horrific results of militant atheism in the USSR:

https://www.facebook.com/martyredintheussr
truthprevails

Alpharetta, GA

#442801 May 19, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
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My apologies for thinking you were a "Christian" earlier.
Seems, however, you understand the teachings of Jesus better than they do.
Ohmigosh! I just about broke a rib laughing on that one!

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