Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

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The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.
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G_O_D wrote:
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The problem is that the "Bing Bang" has tons of evidence to support it. The steeay state universe is proven wrong and the Bible story is a joke.
Wat happened prior to the big bang is best explained by a quantuum fluctuation in an infinite vacuum. IE: The Universe came from nothing. That something can indeed come from nothing an observeable and well documented reality.
"That something can indeed come from nothing an observeable and well documented reality."

Horseship.....Only God can and did Create the universe from nothing...

You have got to have a material of some sort for any explosion to occur....so, starting with, as you say, an infinite vacuum, I would have to believe that these materials magically came into being...

What utter stupidity!!!!!

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Ok, you tell me. I'm arrogant and I need to be enlightened.
Least we get caught up on semantics again I'll pose the same question to you several different ways and you pick which one you want to answer: How can man be saved? How is it that man can transcend his fallen and wretched state and enter the realm of glory where God and Jesus Christ dwell? How can we enable God to save our souls from the torments of hell fire? What is stopping God from beaming us up right now into His holy habitation?
You have no clue of how to find the Kingdom do you?
Jesus told you ...go and find it...read everything Jesus ever said...it is there....else, I can not help you any more.

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All that nonsense about the holy-ones being saved and other evil wicked ones burning in hell ... gave me chills that anyone would want to believe such nonsense.
Even as a child I couldn't be mentally seduced by such obnoxious dogmas.
The god of my imagination had to be nice to everyone, and that is why I created my own religious beliefs that stuck with me for so many years.
I see. I must apologize for what many of my Christian family teaches from the Bible. Much that they teach is erroneous for they are of little understanding in much that they think the Bible says. There is no one burning in hell and hell is our common grave. There is nothing anyone can do in this life,in the short time we are on this earth to have God be so mean and vicious as to deposit their souls in a burning tormenting hell for all eternity simply for not accdepting and believing in Him. That they teach that God would do is yet another scripture that they have misunderstood and taken totally out of context. It is yet another of the many lies that God gets told on Him by the religious community that are of little understanding of much of the scriptures. Again I apologize for them. They mean well though.
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May 17, 2013
 
Oxbow wrote:
Marge...
You asked me a question....I responded.
So far, unless I missed it, you have not replied. As a minister of the Gospel.....don't you think that is not becoming to a Christian....such as yourself???
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Jesus says Me and my Father are One, and you don't believe it?
Do you believe the Bible is the infallible Word of God...no errors...no contractions????
Yes do you?

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June VanDerMark wrote:
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OH PLEASE!!! Pagan religions were brutal before Christianity ever came to the fore.
Why do you try to imply that humans have ever been anything BUT selfish power-seekers?
It's really silly!
Please explain hOw that pertains to the inquisitions and the atrosity of It will you?

"OH PLEASE!!! Pagan religions were brutal before Christianity ever came to the fore.
Why do you try to imply that humans have ever been anything BUT selfish power-seekers?"

THAT'S YOUR BULLSHIT NOT MINE JUNE!
I am not Pagan any more than you are...am not "IMLPLYING ANYTHIHG"

YOU ARE!

You are dishonest and reprehensible in your attempt to impose and defame by "LABEL"(incorrect label-Libel).

YOU are the one stating that "humans were anything but selfish power seekers".

And now you try to attribute it all to Pagans. As that is supposed to mean I am to blame.

Grow ta hell up up will ya?
Why don't you go break a mirror or something more relative.

You are grasping at straws to try ti cause pain. You can't hurt me. I am "above" you in that respect.

Your hatred will destroy you....I promise you that is truth.
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May 17, 2013
 
do they know we don't read their posts and can easily scan past them to the posters we read on the topic?

God bless their hearts.

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Tony17 wrote:
<quoted text>I see. I must apologize for what many of my Christian family teaches from the Bible. Much that they teach is erroneous for they are of little understanding in much that they think the Bible says. There is no one burning in hell and hell is our common grave. There is nothing anyone can do in this life,in the short time we are on this earth to have God be so mean and vicious as to deposit their souls in a burning tormenting hell for all eternity simply for not accdepting and believing in Him. That they teach that God would do is yet another scripture that they have misunderstood and taken totally out of context. It is yet another of the many lies that God gets told on Him by the religious community that are of little understanding of much of the scriptures. Again I apologize for them. They mean well though.
He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.

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The abode of condemned souls and devils in some religions; the place of eternal punishment for the wicked after death, presided over by Satan. A state of separation from God; exclusion from God's presence.
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May 17, 2013
 
THERE IS BURNING IN HELL.

Hey Tony:)

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Yes do you?
I do...without any doubt....whatsoever.

Tell me...do you believe this Scripture: John 20:31 But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.
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May 17, 2013
 
This is a good verse for the unbelievers here, from Gif's post.

Heb 11:3 ===> Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.
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May the greys be with you Amen
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You are simply imposing the prerequisites of your relighin on actuality is all.
DUH!
The prerequist of being a member of 'the True Church of God', which what this topic board is about,...

Is that He God sent His One and Only Son Jesus to save us from this evil world and bring us to everlasting life with our Creator Him, a personal relationship with HIM.

Same plan for All who believe.

HIS PLAN.

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June VanDerMark wrote:
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Please give me an example of what you perceive is love.
OK. I will provide you with a very personal example.

My wife, sister, and two small children were threatened with death by a gang. I was in another state at the time. My wife called me about the situation and said if I returned that they would kill me and them also. I came back to my home immediately. The gang tried to decapitate me with a chain when entering my drive, but I was just a little smarter than that. My bike was messed but I was prime.
I Destroyed 15 bad ass assholes(carrying knives guns and pipes) that night with nothing but two hands and the love for my people.
Did I worry if I was gonna die?---HELL NO!

AND THE COPS HAD THE NERVE TA WANT ME TA PAY FOR THE DAMAGE!

THAT'S LOVE!

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Oxbow wrote:
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He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.
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LOL,LOL. Now I just knew some misled soul was gonna quote a scrpiture (which they don't understand at all) to me after they read my comment about an eternal burning hell where they think the lost are gonna go. Satan won't be presiding over hell or any other place because according to the 28th chapter of Ezekiel God stated that He was gonna turn Satan to ashes. Now why would he destroy Satan yet punish the lost souls in eternal torment for ever? Those that read the scripture about eternal torment in hell has simply mis-understood yet another METAPHOR in the scripture.

Remember the story of Lazarus and the rich man> Well the rich is not really being tormented in hell. It was a METAPHOR.

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I agree.
But how far do we allowed people to go with the "freedom of religion" law?
Should JWs be allowed to deprive their children of live sustaining blood and allow them to die?
Should snake handlers be allowed to indoctrinate their children that handling poisonous snakes is aligned to a god's will?
Where is the fine line?
None of the above June.IMO

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A state of separation from God; exclusion from God's presence.
Oxbow, the definition you gave above is what the rich man in the parable of Lazarus and the rich man experienced. He wasn't literally burning in hell.

There is a holding place where God sends the lost till the judgement. Then when all is said and done they will be blotted out of existence.

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June VanDerMark wrote:
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Watch two babies fighting over a toy, and you will see the selfish traits as they develop.
Teaching children to play fair and nice is a constant battle of wits.
You might not want to see that humans are brutes, but we are, and we have to work at trying to be nice to each other.
This forum is just an example of how people can be mean by the use of words.
That is why those in religion held the bible in one hand and the sword in the other. The book didn't change their human natures. It just gave them excuses to be mean which was their natural inclinations.
Well...I don't have a book in the other hand. so where do you suppose I should go now?

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Black Thunder 42 wrote:
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You have no clue of how to find the Kingdom do you?
Jesus told you ...go and find it...read everything Jesus ever said...it is there....else, I can not help you any more.
Go on, teach me what is required. Did not Christ command his followers, "Go ye therefore, and teach all nations...teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you..." ?(Matt 28:18-20)

Is it not up to us to teach each other what God has given us?

You condemn me and call me an arrogant fool for doing what Christ has asked. Why?

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June VanDerMark wrote:
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When you can prove UFOs exist, then I will believe you.
Until then ... I won't.
Your rhetoric is no more believe-able to me than the rhetoric of those who brag of having a personal relationship with deities.
You can believe or disbelieve any goddam thing you want biotch.

Those of us that have experienced those things---KNOW!

Now HOW DO YA LIKE THAT FER apples?

uHH UHH UHH...

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When you can prove UFOs exist, then I will believe you.
Until then ... I won't.
Your rhetoric is no more believe-able to me than the rhetoric of those who brag of having a personal relationship with deities.
It is obvious that you have never had any experience whatsoever with it.

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