Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

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The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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Carry on.
I did.
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Oh Hi Anthony!
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FYI - you are on one side of the street and I, on the other. I've crossed the street from your side, because I didn't find what I was looking for.
As for the side I am on, I'm noticing that many doors are opening.
And you know what else, not one of those doors, as I have seen, disallow anyone from entering. There are no hoops that need to be tried or jumped through, in order to pass through either.
It also looks as though all of your side's man-made "qualifers" are all strewn on the ground at your feet. Does one just need to pick one and then wait for some guy to accept them?
- the side I'm on - all are accepted.
Hmmmmm......sounds like my side of the street is a little bit more focused on its goal than yours.
While you contort to pat yourself on the back, I notice that you avoided responding.

No matter the deficiencies you find with what I use to inform my beliefs or how I use it, the mechanics are the same as yours.

You take what man has written to inform your beliefs, same as I do. You certainly ascribe some aspect of Christ to what you have absorbed, as you continually argue that it reflects "what Jesus teaches". I do likewise.

Somehow, your methodology is superior to mine, although you take great pains here to avoid telling me why it's A.) better and/or B.) different.

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We were talking about the Gospel of Thomas, right? Jesus didn't write that. It's been dated 340 AD. The greek fragments are dated to between 130 and 250.
Jesus didn't write any of the texts in the NT, but you believe those.

Confused on what texts were written or by whom?

We've already gone over this and was recent. Look back a few pages for the answer.

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I guess that throws "trinity" under the bus then. Divinity was argued for about 400 years until they finally came up with a solid doctrine on it.
These facts they don't include, because they know it affects their belief.

Honesty is not strong with this one.
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"Correct, I have used other men and their theories to formulate my belief. "
So, your point is really "OK for me, but not for thee".
Did I get that right?
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No - I just didn't stop with the men you religion chose to end with.
That is the difference that you refuse to acknowledge.
With you dwelling on what "I do" only goies to show you KNOW that what I do is more than what you ever have done.
Live with it, you aren't a so-called "Christian" per your own standards.
I have acknowledged, on several occasions I'm sure, that our sources differ concerning the gospels and sourcing of same.

The "difference" you insist upon isn't a substantive difference. You relying on more men's writings than I rely upon is you, still, relying upon men's writings to inform your faith.

The actual "difference" here between us is that I don't pretend that I don't it and hope you won't notice.

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You might not be a paid preacher, but from what you post about knowing your self and other such theories, you believe you could lead others to a "spiritual" experience that they could hold of high value.
I don't believe religious theories equate to answers.
Is that what you believe I am doing?

Okay - so be it. It is from now on - from this moment on. I'm going to be a "preacher", even though I don't have the first clue on how to be one. But just because you seem to want it to be this way - I'm going to change.

Okay?
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"I don't believe religious theories equate to answers."
- that's because you were part of religion for so long, they removed your sense of logic and reason, and exclaimed that noone should "seek" the truth because they had it in their possession.

Sounds to me that what you had accepted - what they told you for 70 years - hook, line and sinker, but now you, yes your Self - is "screaming" for the answers you found to be false.
- you'll won't get those answers here....but alas you seem to think you can.
- Just couldn't stand NOT LEAVING religion, huh?
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I have acknowledged, on several occasions I'm sure, that our sources differ concerning the gospels and sourcing of same.
The "difference" you insist upon isn't a substantive difference. You relying on more men's writings than I rely upon is you, still, relying upon men's writings to inform your faith.
The actual "difference" here between us is that I don't pretend that I don't it and hope you won't notice.
Correction:

"....I don't pretend that I don't do it..."

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As for a spirit in the mosquito ... I prefer the word energy, as it does not denote religion ... it sticks to a natural equation that resides in all forms of life.
We agree here. All living things have an "energy" source.
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Dan wrote:
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"Correct, I have used other men and their theories to formulate my belief. "
So, your point is really "OK for me, but not for thee".
Did I get that right?
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No - I just didn't stop with the men you religion chose to end with.
That is the difference that you refuse to acknowledge.
With you dwelling on what "I do" only goies to show you KNOW that what I do is more than what you ever have done.
Live with it, you aren't a so-called "Christian" per your own standards.
But, you do as I do.

You and I rely upon ancient texts concerning Christ and His teachings to inform our faith and/or beliefs.

You just think you get the Ecclesial Cookie/Gold Star/T-Shirt for using sources I don't believe reliable, as if "I use more texts than you" somehow means "I don't rely on what men have written like you do".

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Maybe you could try pointing out for morals that you have in your attitude concerning religion, that I as an Atheist don't have in mine.
That's one of my points I've made.

One does not need religion to gain certain morals, although the morals used within religion can be attained outside of religion.

It doesn't require any "leader" to recognize this. Although you seem to think it does.

Hmmmmm....only four years, right?

I understand.

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We are supposed to be careful about what prophet we believe. Very careful. The prophets in the Bible have proven themselves to be inspired by God since their prophecies have come true. There have been countless others since then whose prophecies have not come true. The stupidest ones are those that claim they know the day (and hour even) that Jesus will return, then *poof*, nothing.
LOL!
That's like asking to be shot. isn't it?
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Jesus didn't write any of the texts in the NT, but you believe those.
Confused on what texts were written or by whom?
We've already gone over this and was recent. Look back a few pages for the answer.
Not confused at all. Jesus didn't write any of the NT books nor did He write the Gospel of Thomas.

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Your post contradicts the validity of the Bible.
Fallible man ["But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God:] cannot discern those things that are spiritually given.
Are you saying some other being wrote the Bible?
Bible, The - A collection of writings recognized as inspired
Bible.

Authenticity of the - The authority of Holy Writ is twofold on account of its twofold authorship: human authors and divine inspiration.

Logic: Any human that writes what the Holy Spirit inspires him to write is infallible. He is acting as a secretary taking dictation...his words are given to him by the infallible Holy Spirit.

Am not surprised that this comes as news to you!!!

Glad to help...

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The False Prophet will come from the Vatican. The Beast will likely come from the Islamic community. The airplane attacks on the twin towers convinced me of that,though I could be wrong.
Off-topic...but relevant to this post....

Nostradamus - in his letter to King Henry II - to some, prophecised this occurrance:

http://www.propheties.it/nostradamus/letters/...

"All the Kingdoms of Christianity will tremble, even those of the infidels, for the space of twenty-five years. Wars and battles will be more grievous and towns, cities, castles and all other edifices will be burned, desolated and destroyed, with great effusion of vestal blood, violations of married woman and widows, and sucking children dashed and broken against the walls of towns. By means of Satan, Prince Infernal, so may evils will be committed that nearly all the world will find itself undone and desolated.

>>>>Before these events, some rare birds will cry in the air: Hui, Hui [Today, today] and some time later will vanish. "<<<<

- one could say that he "saw" the terrorists attack on 9/11 500 years before it occurred.

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God is love? Bull. God is fear. Most of God's own creation will not make the grade, mainly because they were born in the wrong geographical area.
Matthew 7:13-14
“Enter by the narrow gate. For the gate is wide and the way is easy that leads to destruction, and those who enter by it are many. For the gate is narrow and the way is hard that leads to life, and those who find it are few."
That sounds more like a neurotic, vengeful God who is angry at the little ants in his ant farm, so he is going to punish most of the ants.
Who would condemn most of its own creation for such arbitrary reasons, except a psycho-god?
Holy Psycho Batman!!
Jesus came "in the fullness of time" at the height of the roman empire, in the center of trade/middle east and at the zenith of the Jewish nation.

"this thing wasn't done in a corner" as the Good Book says, and no one is hidden from the results of the Savior.

you obviously know, so what the haael do you think your excuse is gonna be?!

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Preaching ABOUT the meaning of love, does not mean that the preachers know the meaning of love.
I've met many preachers that preach about how to get to heaven and how to avoid hell, as though a god has placed a stamp on their foreheads that states ... "saved!
Silly stuff spews from the mouths of preachers, who belief that they are "all that" to their selves and therefore MUST be "all that" to a god.
I somehow doubt that if a creator exists, that the creator would be so easily fooled by worship from those who adore their own reflections that come back to them through words they glean from human-created literature.
Not into love, okay, let's see if there are other morals that you can take part in.

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Who's adding to what is written? Not me.
I've taken what has been written and tried to explain to you and others, that what you accept is incomplete without them.
You chosen to not believe this and to believe men instead.
So be it.
yes - you can put me on record as not accepting the Go-Porno books of the mystics so it's no point arguing on this any longer:)

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It's "formidable" and "gleaned", since we're speaking of "not very knowledgeable".
Thanks for correcting my error.

I'll make a note of it.

I'll be sure to let you grade all my posts from this point on, okay? You seem to like doing this, and you should do what you like.

You surely are a "Christian", so maybe a English teacher is more suited for you.

Thanks again for looking out for me.

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Somehow, your methodology is superior to mine, although you take great pains here to avoid telling me why it's A.) better and/or B.) different.
Oh I have, you just refuse to accept it.

"to know yourself is to know the kingdom of God."

Once you get to this level of understanding Jesus, all others become very clear.

But since you reject this teaching by Jesus, it seems you will never reach that pinnacle of success.

Like I said, bummer for you.

I wonder what JohnfmNJ is doing now-a-days?

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New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
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You've added an additional zero to the mix. Probably to appease your own psyche.
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Bullshite.
Why do you make things up?
Nothing in the document even express "anti-christ".
Do you even know the origin of the term "anti-christ"?
Learn it - it will help you immensely.
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We know....we are dealling with a "Clown".
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yeah....i'm the sheriff up in here and this town ain't big enough for the both of us;)

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