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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 687172 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Terrace, Canada

#442279 May 18, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
God created us.
Would that be the same god that created non-human animals that must spill blood to survive by fang, claw, sharp teeth and venom???

Do you think if you butter up your image of a god, you in turn deserve a reward?

If I was a god I would tell you that you don't fool me by not seeing what is front of you.

If a god exists, the god is NOT of the character of love.

Get over your self and see the horrors of nature that unfold in front of your eyes. SEE the suffering of all forms of life ... and say to your self ... "SOMETHING IS WRONG WITH HOW I HAVE BEEN PROGRAMMED!"

Yes, I enjoy the beautiful sunsets, and the water-falls with their rainbows of beauty ... but the suffering of nature indicates to me, that no god had a part in any plan.

There has to be a better explanation than the one that came from religion. I refuse to believe that a creator would need to see his own creation suffer for no reason other than it was part of the PLAN.

Ridiculous!
Clay

Garden City, MI

#442280 May 18, 2013
Religion A Delusion wrote:
<quoted text>
Sorry Clay, but the CC RESISTS all scientific "reasoning," as you put it.
The CCF has refused modern testing on relics, communion tissue, all except one test on the Shroud.
The test on the shroud came back as most suspected, a 13th century fake, but then your CC tells us "oops, the test sample was an old repair."
Now the CC refuses further testing and you claim they want to "exhaust all scientific reasoning BEFORE they officially declare something worthy of belief."
Sir, that is the definition of delusional.
I asked for a list of things god requires us to do, and you could only "guess."
And if I don't love your imaginary god, then what happens to me? Would you use the description that Mary told the three little girls at the sun miracle?
That's OK. We agree on the other 95% of mankind's religious dogma. It's all imaginary except for yours, right?
There are quite a few errors in your post.
-There has been numerous tests on the shroud and the latest proved that the first test errored. It is not a 13th century fake. It dates to the time of Christ. The carbon dating from the first test only used a corner of the shroud. This happened to be a corner that was repaired after the the shroud miraculously survived a 13th century fire.

- Communion tissue is always scientifically examined before the Church decides on anything. You probably never heard of the report from a Church in West Saint Paul MN last year. Someone reported the communion host became a blood-like tissue ....the Church took it to a lab and it proved to be some kind of yeast reaction. Not blood.
However, a host from Lanciano, Italy around the 12th century did the same thing- appeared to turn to blood. In the 1980's the Catholic Church allowed scientist to examine it and they discovered it was indeed human blood and tissue from the heart, from a man in his 30's.

www.Wikipedia.org/Wiki/miracle_of_the_host

forgive me if my links don't work. My phone doesn't always allow it.
Yahchanan

Union City, OK

#442281 May 18, 2013
This thread is A out and out Lie

His one true church was the house Of Yahweh in Able Israel.

Yahweh Is just that he is not a god man made him a god.changed his name and not this is not a translation the words lord god baal were added to his name because the divine reverence of his name was believed to be to holy to be spoken.And he even says you will cause them to forget my name and the world has.......If all of you on here are so smart prove this to be wrong you can not.......it is a fact...and even after all these thing they still would not repent of their sins and god worship.

he Is Yahweh Their is no other power in the universe ....he is not a god......I guess this is why he only calls out just a few to even understand the name or the laws tha'ts ok no one listened to Yahshua they thought he was a quack ...

I am here to help not to hurt anyone.but so many lies on this thread it is unreal.and understanding only comes from the reverence of the creator now how many of you truly reverence your heavenly father Yahweh I can see that to accept this you will have to stop sinning people sure do love there sin.
truth

Perth, Australia

#442282 May 18, 2013
Please tell me about atheist genocide!

Your school..how you call that?!

How many experiment as instrument in hand mind intelect or poor teaching about human ability to be great liar they not kill anyone.

or
You will say atheist as well others can kill too but religion can't defend nothing.
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Terrace, Canada

#442283 May 18, 2013
Religion A Delusion wrote:
<quoted text>
Mary was just what the CC needed. She was not around during the first Creed, but now she's a goddess in all other respects except name.
I'll play the game of theology for now. Mary was born a Jew ... so it follows that she came from Olam Ha Ba which is the place where Jews are rewarded with eternal bliss.

Then as an adult she is impregnated by the god of the Jews, and gives birth to a son who is also a pure Jew.

But when she becomes an adult she is persuaded by her Jewish son Jesus, to become a Catholic.

Later the popes canonize her as a Catholic saint and she is now in Christian heaven with Jesus, the apostles, the wise men and all of the other Jews that became traitors to Judaism when they supported Catholicism.

Even theology should have its limits of how far it will stretch a lie.
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Terrace, Canada

#442284 May 18, 2013
Yahchanan wrote:
This thread is A out and out Lie
His one true church was the house Of Yahweh in Able Israel.
Yahweh Is just that he is not a god man made him a god.
:)

Everybody wants to possess the one and only god.

"He loves ME!"

"NO ... you are wrong ... HE LOVES 'ME.' It says so in the old or new testament. Just wait a minute until I find the scripture. I have both books handy."

:)
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Terrace, Canada

#442285 May 18, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
There are quite a few errors in your post.
-There has been numerous tests on the shroud and the latest proved that the first test errored. It is not a 13th century fake.
Din Timelines

World History Timelines

1389

x - A French bishop advised the Pope that the Shroud of Turin, that had materialized in the village of Lirey a generation earlier, was a fraud.
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>

Turin Shroud confirmed as a fake
June 21, 2005
by Richard Ingham

PARIS, June 21 (AFP)- A French magazine said on Tuesday it had carried out experiments that proved the Shroud of Turin, believed by some Christians to be their religion's holiest relic, was a fake.

In 1988, scientists carried out carbon-14 dating of the delicate linen cloth and concluded that the material was made some time between 1260 and 1390. Their study prompted the then archbishop of Turin, where the Shroud is stored, to admit that the garment was a hoax. But the debate sharply revived in January this year.
http://www.physorg.com/news4652.html
truth

Perth, Australia

#442286 May 18, 2013
program
you say that

you explain program as determinant..

Tell me about my delusion=is my mental delusion wrong when i told you before about determinant..or you liked just give over me very bad name.

you say your program..

Please make me correct if you could!
Its posible set up someone your program turning
everybody against everybody..as bible say father will used son and all others against each other.
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Terrace, Canada

#442287 May 18, 2013
The supposed holy grail was also a fake that scientists proved was made 500 years after the supposed crucifixion.

Back then, the popes knew there was no way of testing these man-made materials, so they told many stories that would keep the crowds coming and giving up their hard-earned money.

The modern popes keep very quiet about these issues.

They prefer to preach about the supposed sin of homosexuality and how "god" is offended by the use of birth control, and abortions, and other nonsensical gibberish.
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Terrace, Canada

#442288 May 18, 2013
If there is a god and he is offended by abortion, then he had better start keeping those cells in the fetuses alive so that the countless babies are not born dead.

Silly dogmas.

Since: Sep 12

Location hidden

#442289 May 18, 2013
jethro8 wrote:
<quoted text>if the pope really is the vicar of Christ on earth,like i said,he would know the answers to all,it would be revealed to him by god,this is the belief of the catholic church.the pope is gods right hand man on earth,a descendant of the original apostles,which is not true.
I'm curious, how would you interpret this scripture:

2 Thess 2: 3-4
"Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God."

Who do you think that man is, who is exalting himself and sitting as God showing himself that he is God?
Yahchanan

Union City, OK

#442290 May 18, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
:)
Everybody wants to possess the one and only god.
"He loves ME!"
"NO ... you are wrong ... HE LOVES 'ME.' It says so in the old or new testament. Just wait a minute until I find the scripture. I have both books handy."
:)
No you are correct he loves you and he knows how the world has been deceived.But he is not a god......You can have thousands of bibles but if you do not have understanding. what good are they.look it up for yourself and see how they changed his name but im afraid after you read it you will not change.scripture say that understanding comes from the reverence of the creator to keep his law do you.do you at least try.
truth

Perth, Australia

#442291 May 18, 2013
Words vanity and modern..where is deference?..what you try explain?
Yahchanan

Union City, OK

#442292 May 18, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
If there is a god and he is offended by abortion, then he had better start keeping those cells in the fetuses alive so that the countless babies are not born dead.
Silly dogmas.
What is it now over 80 million unborn children dead.this goes back to the law as well...adulterers whore mongers.Man its such a great book but it is going to waste....It says come out of her so that you do not partake in her sins.As you can see the world is a very sinful place.

Since: Sep 12

Location hidden

#442293 May 18, 2013
jethro8 wrote:
<quoted text>does your name mean anything? like a certain religious group possibly??
Sam is the brother of Nephi who is an ancient prophet in the Book of Mormon. The Book of Mormon is the record of an ancient people who lived in the Americas. God loves all his children, so He gave them His gospel as He did those in the middle east. In the Book of Mormon, prophets, who were like Isaiah or Jeremiah, prophesied of the coming of Christ. Near the end of the record of the Book of Mormon, Christ comes and establishes His gospel in the Americas, a gospel which thrived for about 200 years and then was lost.

http://mormon.org/book-of-mormon

Since: Sep 12

Location hidden

#442294 May 18, 2013
jethro8 wrote:
<quoted text>he's not there,that is What is stopping God from beaming us up right now into His holy habitation.
So, where is He?
Yahchanan

Union City, OK

#442295 May 18, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
The supposed holy grail was also a fake that scientists proved was made 500 years after the supposed crucifixion.
Back then, the popes knew there was no way of testing these man-made materials, so they told many stories that would keep the crowds coming and giving up their hard-earned money.
The modern popes keep very quiet about these issues.
They prefer to preach about the supposed sin of homosexuality and how "god" is offended by the use of birth control, and abortions, and other nonsensical gibberish.
I hate to tell people this but the roman catholick church is the beast that sits on seven hills named after seven different gods.And has more secrets than a soap opera.Everyone talks about his word well his word are his laws that was nailed to the cross another fairy tale to make Christians and catholicks feel better about them self's....he died for your sins b.s. we all are guilty of his murder.
Yahchanan

Union City, OK

#442296 May 18, 2013
Sambrotherofnephi wrote:
<quoted text>
Sam is the brother of Nephi who is an ancient prophet in the Book of Mormon. The Book of Mormon is the record of an ancient people who lived in the Americas. God loves all his children, so He gave them His gospel as He did those in the middle east. In the Book of Mormon, prophets, who were like Isaiah or Jeremiah, prophesied of the coming of Christ. Near the end of the record of the Book of Mormon, Christ comes and establishes His gospel in the Americas, a gospel which thrived for about 200 years and then was lost.
http://mormon.org/book-of-mormon
I sure hope you are not going out on weekends and looking for those two golden tablets....

Since: Sep 12

Location hidden

#442297 May 18, 2013
Religion A Delusion wrote:
<quoted text>

According to a true STUDY of the Bible, it seems many are saved, few are rejected.
I'd agree with you. Rev 7:9 indicates a great "multitude" will be saved and in heaven. I don't think it will just be 144,000 or just one religious denomination.
Yahchanan

Union City, OK

#442298 May 18, 2013
Sambrotherofnephi wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm curious, how would you interpret this scripture:
2 Thess 2: 3-4
"Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God."
Who do you think that man is, who is exalting himself and sitting as God showing himself that he is God?
Fella the whole world is deceived.The anti Christ will sit in the holy of holy s and most do not even know where that is. it is not in Jerusalem that the world know of. And you god you worship His name Is Yahweh man made him a god....They changed his name because they thought it was to holy to be spoken.....And he says you will cause them to forget my name.in Hebrew It reads YHWH Yahweh nothing made him a god but mortal man.Im trying to tell you revelation 12/9 says it all....

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