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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 668194 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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Omaha, NE

#442236 May 18, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
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Oh I have, you just refuse to accept it.
"to know yourself is to know the kingdom of God."
Once you get to this level of understanding Jesus, all others become very clear.
But since you reject this teaching by Jesus, it seems you will never reach that pinnacle of success.
Like I said, bummer for you.
I wonder what JohnfmNJ is doing now-a-days?
Again, deflecting.

I'll assume the point on this one.
Religion A Delusion

Titusville, FL

#442237 May 18, 2013
Regina wrote:
"For we do not hold that which the heretics imagine: that some part of the being of God was converted into the Son, or that the Son was procreated by the Father from non-existent substances, that is, from a being outside himself, so that there was a time when he [the Son] did not exist" (The Fundamental Doctrines 4:4:1 [A.D. 225]).
"No, rejecting every suggestion of corporeality, we hold that the Word and the Wisdom was begotten out of the invisible and incorporeal God, without anything corporal being acted upon ... the expression which we employ, however that there was never a time when he did not exist is to be taken with a certain allowance. For these very words ‘when’ and ‘never’ are terms of temporal significance, while whatever is said of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, is to be understood as transcending all time, all ages" (ibid.).
"For it is the Trinity alone which exceeds every sense in which not only temporal but even eternal may be understood. It is all other things, indeed, which are outside the Trinity, which are to be measured by time and ages" (ibid.).
"The Word alone of this God is from God himself, wherefore also the Word is God, being the being of God. Now the world was made from nothing, wherefore it is not God" (Refutation of All Heresies 10:29 [A.D. 228]).
"For Scripture as much announces Christ as also God, as it announces God himself as man. It has as much described Jesus Christ to be man, as moreover it has also described Christ the Lord to be God. Because it does not set forth him to be the Son of God only, but also the son of man; nor does it only say, the son of man, but it has also been accustomed to speak of him as the Son of God. So that being of both, he is both, lest if he should be one only, he could not be the other. For as nature itself has prescribed that he must be believed to be a man who is of man, so the same nature prescribes also that he must be believed to be God who is of God.... Let them, therefore, who read that Jesus Christ the son of man is man, read also that this same Jesus is called also God and the Son of God" (Treatise on the Trinity 11 [A.D. 235]).
There's more..........
Origen was a real Christian.

Marathon, Canada

#442238 May 18, 2013
jethro8 wrote:
<quoted text>what your showing is catholic belief not world belief.can you back this with a non-catholic site?... Any Christian might be called on to seal with his blood his belief that there is but One God...gen.1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness:JETHRO:who is god talking to?
Since the Bible, and the New Testament especially, presents God as a Trinity (three Persons but only one God), Genesis 1:26 and 3:22 can only represent a conversation within the Trinity. God the Father is having a "conversation" with God the Son and/or God the Holy Spirit. The Old Testament hints at the plurality of God, and the New Testament clarifies this plurality with the doctrine of the Trinity. Obviously, there is no way we can fully understand how this works – but God has given us enough information to know that He does exist in three Persons,- Father, Son and Holy Spirit.

Garden City, MI

#442239 May 18, 2013
jethro8 wrote:
<quoted text>yes i know,it's to bad,why can't they just sit quietly with their beliefs and wait to die and find out what they believed all those years was the truth or not,that is the only way people are going to know. after they die,which does not make sense,the only explanation for it, is it's the only way to keep the truth that a god does not exist.
You said:
"Why can't they just sit quietly with their beliefs"

That's like the poop telling the vomit he stinks; the pot calling the kettle black.

The most vocal evangelizing radicals today are not Christians. They are atheist. And they are everywhere spreading their belief of 'non-belief'.

Canton, OH

#442240 May 18, 2013
why does it matter?
Religion A Delusion

Titusville, FL

#442241 May 18, 2013
LTM wrote:
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Why are you surprise, up till the time Jesus started to preach the Kingdom of God people thought He was just the son of a carpenter.
When He was born Mary and Joseph had to hid with Him people were trying to kill Him.
It was only after His baptism, and His 40 days and night in the wilderness, did His ministry start.
His brothers and sisters didn't even know He was the Messiah.
There was much written about Him before he was born, He fulfilled all prophecy about Him.
The 12 disciples , wrote much about Him in the N.T. as did Paul.
The is a book written about Him Its Called the Holy Bible.
You just choose to not believe what is written.
The Quran' believes in the virgin birth they honor Mary but to them Jesus is just a Prophet like Muhammad.
Thank you for that.

Yes, the Quran says Mary was a virgin. The books of Abraham have many similarities.

Perth, Australia

#442242 May 18, 2013
see that numbers
its stay that people died on that numbers
check te.
please check up
its crime=stolen indetity from many many every chld every school every hospital every department on this world and much more

please understood
tel=evil game
please understood just 3 symbols and one diagram
its from 3x heaven
every soul every alive

you don't understood me
time to time as well time up many multiplay

i am going cry again


Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#442243 May 18, 2013
Then why is Catholicism strikingly similar to first century Christianity and yours is not?

First century Christianity is described in the Bible. "Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and you shall be saved." "The Word is near you, even in your heart, and in your mouth (so) that, if you BELIEVE IN YOUR HEART that God raised Him from the dead, and CONFESS WITH YOUR MOUTH, you shall be saved."
This is what we believe.

On the other hand, you believe that you are saved by:
(1)Baptism (someone else does this when you are a child.
(2)Confirmation (someone else does this, too)
(3)The Eucharist (served to you by a man)
None of it is by your choice, but you believe that because those things were done TO you, you are saved if you continue to partake the Eucharist.

Your faith is in what someone else does to you...not in HIS SAVING BLOOD.

Garden City, MI

#442244 May 18, 2013
Religion A Delusion wrote:
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I agree. So far in all of human history, no god has seen fit to leave us with physical or provable evidence. So there's conflict, like xians on this board.
Instead of arguing, here's a postive most ignore: I read the Bible recently and find 189 ways to be saved.
#189... "Love is of God; and every one that loveth is born of God." -- 1 John 4:7
According to a true STUDY of the Bible, it seems many are saved, few are rejected.

Everytime He does, people quickly forget about it or dismiss it.
If I was God, I wouldn't physically manifest myself or verbally communicate with anyone here. You all don't want God or any god. He requires you to obey some rules. I can't imagine you or June following any rules dictated by a Judeo-Christian God.
Religion A Delusion

Titusville, FL

#442245 May 18, 2013
Disciple wrote:
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Which is to promote plant growth not global warming.
Who's in denial? Who is imagining things?
I say you.
I live in an open democracy in the Information Age.

I don't need delusions. I don't believe they are healthy for me or society.

Question: should America stop relying on the collective wisdom of the National Academy of Sciences 100%, or only stop listening to our top scientific organizations when reality conflicts with the faith of delusional fundies?

Sorry, your God is imaginary and you are proof.
Religion A Delusion

Titusville, FL

#442246 May 18, 2013
Clay wrote:
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Everytime He does, people quickly forget about it or dismiss it.
If I was God, I wouldn't physically manifest myself or verbally communicate with anyone here. You all don't want God or any god. He requires you to obey some rules. I can't imagine you or June following any rules dictated by a Judeo-Christian God.
Trust me. You don't want to start dissecting miracles that even your own church has played down in recent years.

What "rules" does he require me to obey? Are they the words of Jesus? Please post a list.

Garden City, MI

#442247 May 18, 2013
Religion A Delusion wrote:
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Trust me. You don't want to start dissecting miracles that even your own church has played down in recent years.
What "rules" does he require me to obey? Are they the words of Jesus? Please post a list.
Miracles are God revealing Himself in a supernatural way.
No, I am not talking about an image of Jesus Christ in a cookie.
The Catholic Church exhausts all scientific reasoning BEFORE they officially declare something worthy of belief.

The main 'rule' I guess, is for you to believe in Him...

Since: Sep 09

Terrace, Canada

#442248 May 18, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
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I'm sorry to hear you say this.
I've known people like you. Always holding in the bitterness of "something". In ways, I don't blame you, because we are human.
I don't even empathize with you, if it is of any interest to you.
But I do hope you enjoy your life. Better yet.....
I hope your day goes as well as the person you are.
Much better.
Please ... rather than a sermon, give me an example of what you believe explains the meaning of the word "love."

Since: Sep 09

Terrace, Canada

#442249 May 18, 2013
Tony17 wrote:
<quoted text>UFO'S do indeed exist and Ezekiel described seeing one in the first chapter of Ezekiel. Read the following....
UFO'S are indeed used by the spiritual realm. Gods technology is far greater than the technology that man uses hense hense the UFO'S.
There is much I could say on this topic but it would only having you guys shaking your heads.
When you can prove scientifically that UFOs exist and god and angels etc., exist, I will believe you.

There is also much BEEN said on the topic that makes me shake my head ... but that doesn't mean that I know answers. And it doesn't mean that because you read some words somewhere that other people wrote the YOU know answers either.

Under hypnosis, people believe they saw many things that weren't real.

Since: Sep 09

Terrace, Canada

#442250 May 18, 2013
Tony17 wrote:
<quoted text>I see. I must apologize for what many of my Christian family teaches from the Bible. Much that they teach is erroneous for they are of little understanding in much that they think the Bible says. There is no one burning in hell and hell is our common grave. There is nothing anyone can do in this life,in the short time we are on this earth to have God be so mean and vicious as to deposit their souls in a burning tormenting hell for all eternity simply for not accdepting and believing in Him. That they teach that God would do is yet another scripture that they have misunderstood and taken totally out of context. It is yet another of the many lies that God gets told on Him by the religious community that are of little understanding of much of the scriptures. Again I apologize for them. They mean well though.
You only reflect back to you from the words in the bible that satisfy your own imagination. That is what all people do with the words. And then they fight with others about who has the meaning that came from "GOD" through those who wrote the words.

Silly stuff indeed!

Since: Sep 09

Terrace, Canada

#442251 May 18, 2013
Religion A Delusion

Titusville, FL

#442252 May 18, 2013
Gunslinger wrote:
Hell, I've been saying that Catholics are the only folks who do not piss God off for three months now. About time the Pope picked up on my lead.
The Pope did. A new era of openness.

After calling for reform of the world's "cult of money," the Pope listened to my calls (and a few others), and the reform begins within.

The Vatican bank will launch it's own website and publish its annual report.

Perth, Australia

#442253 May 18, 2013
love=reproductive system for us ordinary humans in this life..many have pleasure..many that shame
nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooooooooooooooooooo
i think we are here to secure our indetity within our pure soul much many times we come back maybe modern 2-3x.what keep us=who feed from us
they represent darkness ..they will tell you what church need which church and who..did you see them or what?

Since: Sep 09

Terrace, Canada

#442254 May 18, 2013
Black Thunder 42 wrote:
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Please explain hOw that pertains to the inquisitions and the atrosity of It will you?
"OH PLEASE!!! Pagan religions were brutal before Christianity ever came to the fore.
Why do you try to imply that humans have ever been anything BUT selfish power-seekers?"
I am not Pagan any more than you not "IMLPLYING ANYTHIHG"
You are dishonest and reprehensible in your attempt to impose and defame by "LABEL"(incorrect label-Libel).
YOU are the one stating that "humans were anything but selfish power seekers".
And now you try to attribute it all to Pagans. As that is supposed to mean I am to blame.
Grow ta hell up up will ya?
Why don't you go break a mirror or something more relative.
You are grasping at straws to try ti cause pain. You can't hurt me. I am "above" you in that respect.
Your hatred will destroy you....I promise you that is truth.
I didn't attribute all cruelty to Pagans. I just emphasized that before the Christians started their churches, the Pagans were already burning other humans and non-human animals in the flames to appease the supposed gods.

As I can see from the words in your posts to me, you have the same reaction of anger as do the Christians on this forum, and yet you preach about knowing the meaning of love.

We all have hot-buttons and yours is lit up bright red ... so please don't give me that malarkey about early humans being atoned to love and that they came from space and were evolved to a god-like level of behavior.

From my perception, our ancestors were ape-like creators that were probably comparable to other animals in knowing nothing more than basic skills of survival.

My guess is, if circumstances were suitable, with the flash of a weapon, you could be a killer and so could I.

Perth, Australia

#442255 May 18, 2013
who left that on my bench kitchen table
what wrote there
book 51 just tiny chips metal as button
now you are liar

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