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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 637064 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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Just Sayin

Antioch, TN

#441924 May 17, 2013
Black Thunder 42 wrote:
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History.
Do you know that the "inquisition" is still sanctioned today?
Source please?
Just Sayin

Antioch, TN

#441925 May 17, 2013
Black Thunder 42 wrote:
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Very good...
Now tell me how easily anyone can gain access to "any" of the archives...or copy any material.
How easily can anyone gain access to your personal collection of books?
Just Sayin

Antioch, TN

#441926 May 17, 2013
Black Thunder 42 wrote:
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Jesus was a heretic?
Is that what you are saying?
Remember...he is the core(supposed to be) of your religion.
We were talking about the Gospel of Thomas, right? Jesus didn't write that. It's been dated 340 AD. The greek fragments are dated to between 130 and 250.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#441927 May 17, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
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I ask a lot of questions of all preachers.
If you believe that you are spiritual, do you also believe that (for instance) mosquitoes and the cells that keep our bodies functioning are "spiritual?"
Strike three.

I'm not a preacher.

And I already answered your "animal spirit" question.

Maybe you should talk with a Hindu to get more information, as they believe a person's spirit can become an animal after they died.

*shrugs*

I've never met any mosquitos I didn't squish that was able to answer this question.

Sorry I can't help you. Maybe one of the Catholics have an answer for you.

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#441928 May 17, 2013
Regina wrote:
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No.
A work does not have to be inspired to be valid, however, it's validity rests on the fact that it is free of doctrinal or moral error, that it does not contradict or change in any way that which *is* inspired (scripture). Canonicity was determined largely by comparing the texts to that which the Church had always taught (the Apostolic faith/Tradition). GoThomas does not qualify in either case.
I guess that throws "trinity" under the bus then. Divinity was argued for about 400 years until they finally came up with a solid doctrine on it.

Since: Sep 09

Fraser Lake, Canada

#441929 May 17, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
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Strike three.
I'm not a preacher.
And I already answered your "animal spirit" question.
Maybe you should talk with a Hindu to get more information, as they believe a person's spirit can become an animal after they died.
*shrugs*
I've never met any mosquitos I didn't squish that was able to answer this question.
Sorry I can't help you. Maybe one of the Catholics have an answer for you.
You might not be a paid preacher, but from what you post about knowing your self and other such theories, you believe you could lead others to a "spiritual" experience that they could hold of high value.

I don't believe religious theories equate to answers.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#441930 May 17, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
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It's still ALL theory. Each group of believers cling to their own theories ... but that doesn't warrant claims of truth.
Truth requires proof, not theory.
I have a theory that the universe always existed, but to prove it is quite another "matter." I can't, so I admit that ALL I have is a theory.
Religion is also based on theory. It makes people happy about their own theories and often very angry and defensive about the theories of others ... but from my perception, the anger stems from not being able to prove that on which one places the highest of value.
too add....many religions have morals that have been proven to be very viable to oneself.

This is where you and I will disagree - there are many beautiful things said within religion that are stated with an intention to help an individual improve their being.

Looks like evern after 70 years, you must've not picked up on any of them - especially those associated to "love".

Hmmmm.....only four years?

You sound as if religion - made you bitter. Maybe you should have left alot sooner than you did.

The dismays that religion instills, can be overcome.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#441931 May 17, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
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A bit testy today aren't we. You seem to get that way whenever someone hits you right between the eyes.
Not really, I jsut wanted to express my thoughts - more directly - because you can;t seem to grasp them in the other formats I've expressed.

I can see it caught your attention, without any formible response to refute it.

Not very knowledgeable is all I've gleened from you.

You'll have to provide at least one post that shows you really are a Catholic. So far, you are a heretic, just like you have applied upon me.

Typical Catholic.

Since: Sep 09

Fraser Lake, Canada

#441932 May 17, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
<I've never met any mosquitos I didn't squish that was able to answer this question.
Neither did I. But my guess is, the mosquito valued its life as of being the same importance as I value mine. I just happened to hold the power over the mosquito that I squished.

But had the mosquito attacked first and had one of those nasty viruses (such as the West Nile virus) in its stinger, it might have laid me low.

As for a spirit in the mosquito ... I prefer the word energy, as it does not denote religion ... it sticks to a natural equation that resides in all forms of life.

Since: Sep 09

Fraser Lake, Canada

#441933 May 17, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
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too add....many religions have morals that have been proven to be very viable to oneself.
Maybe you could try pointing out for morals that you have in your attitude concerning religion, that I as an Atheist don't have in mine.

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#441935 May 17, 2013
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Clay wrote:
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Responding to what? I don't know what you're saying.
Are you canceling out the Divinity of Jesus Christ or promoting sola fide?
Ox, Christianity was not started because the Apostles handed out their writings and walked away. They already revealed the faith.
Its wholly irresponsible, bold, arrogant and foolish to think you guys uncovered 'the real Christianity' 2,000 yrs later.
If you want to know what Jesus Christ taught about His nature, then go to the early Church. Read their writings. The Catholic Church has not changed these teachings.
No need to act dumb....that has already been verified!!!

You cannot answer: By what reason do you reject the Catholic Encyclopedia teaching that Christ is the incarnate Son of God the redeemer of the human race...

Neither can you tell me why you reject this specific teaching in Scripture that supports the Catholic Encyclopedia teaching that Chris is the Son of God : John 20:31 But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.

You are a typical Catholic...cannot face and admit the truth....even if it is supported by the Word of God and your own religion!!!!

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#441936 May 17, 2013
Dan wrote:
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Hmmm.
The Philosopher King now resorts to profanity. Must be your higher sense of enlightenment, yes?
I'm fairly certain that I already knew that men actually wrote the Scriptures-thanks anyway.
You have "accepted" the men who authored the Gospel of Thomas, and that it's divinely inspired, else you wouldn't be insistent that my rejection of it is my not accepting the whole of Christ's teachings.
One side of the street or the other, NASL.
Oh Hi Anthony!

;o)

FYI - you are on one side of the street and I, on the other. I've crossed the street from your side, because I didn't find what I was looking for.

As for the side I am on, I'm noticing that many doors are opening.

And you know what else, not one of those doors, as I have seen, disallow anyone from entering. There are no hoops that need to be tried or jumped through, in order to pass through either.

It also looks as though all of your side's man-made "qualifers" are all strewn on the ground at your feet. Does one just need to pick one and then wait for some guy to accept them?
- the side I'm on - all are accepted.

Hmmmmm......sounds like my side of the street is a little bit more focused on its goal than yours.
hojo

Saint Paul, MN

#441937 May 17, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
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Their worship of Idols are obvious to every one on earth ...BUT THEM..
Same old CCC (Confrinting-Crock-of Crap (junk/trash) The ONLY PERSON that idol worship is so "vindictively and ignorantly obvious" to is YOU PERSONALLY! The other 1.169+ billion Catholics around the world are spiritually, biblically and reverently "grounded" in the TRUTH of Jesus Christ HIMSELF and His biblically and historically PROVEN One True Apostolic Catholic Church to believe ANY of your (trashy comments) The only thing that you are "grounded in" (of which you have consistently demonstrated to "everyone" on this forum) is heresy, lies, condemnation and judgement of the faith and Salvation in Jesus Christ of ALL other Christians on this forum (especially Catholics). You don't speak for God and "never will" until you come to true salvation, true faith and the true love of and in Jesus Christ--the Ecumentical Savior of the world. Until then Confrinting, your faith, your preaching. your Salvation and your ministry is SUSPECT!!!

Since: Sep 09

Fraser Lake, Canada

#441938 May 17, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
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Looks like evern after 70 years, you must've not picked up on any of them - especially those associated to "love".
Preaching ABOUT the meaning of love, does not mean that the preachers know the meaning of love.

I've met many preachers that preach about how to get to heaven and how to avoid hell, as though a god has placed a stamp on their foreheads that states ... "saved!

Silly stuff spews from the mouths of preachers, who belief that they are "all that" to their selves and therefore MUST be "all that" to a god.

I somehow doubt that if a creator exists, that the creator would be so easily fooled by worship from those who adore their own reflections that come back to them through words they glean from human-created literature.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#441939 May 17, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
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It would please you no end if if they would follow you though. Otherwise you would never use that term "leader."
Wrogn again. Hmmm....not getting the gold stars today, huh?

It was an anonymous name choice for many reasons.

a. I give credit to Edgar Cayce for the name.
b. I chose it solely, just to piss off people like you -*smiles*- oh and the Catholics too....*winks*....and whomever thinks that an anonymous login name is a catalyst to have people "follow" you.

You must still have that thorn in your side, which you must think came from me, huh?

In all truthfulness - I hope it stays there. It will remind you of me and my beliefs.

;o)

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#441940 May 17, 2013
Just Sayin wrote:
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What happened was the dude, Constantin von Tischendorf (archaelogist), found the Code Sinaiticus in the Monastery of St Catherine at Sinai. He asked the monks if he could keep the 129 leaves he found and was permitted to take only 1/3 of them. He deposited them in the Leizig University Library where they remain. The other portions remained at the monastery. Later, he revisited the monastery to get the remaining leaves but was not successful. Later other leaves of the codex were found in the monastery. long story. Over the years the whole thing has been found and put together and is now available online.
http://www.codex-sinaiticus.net/en/
aaaah....no "God" involved....gotcha.

Thanks for responding.

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#441941 May 17, 2013
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G_O_D wrote:
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"The age of the universe is defined in physical cosmology as the time elapsed since the Big Bang. The best measurement of the age of the universe, as of 22 March 2013, is 13.798 0.037 billion years[1][2][3](4.354&#8201 ;&#8201;0.012 1017 seconds) within the Lambda-CDM concordance model.[4] The uncertainty of 37 million years has been obtained by the agreement of a number of scientific research projects, such as microwave background radiation measurements by the Planck satellite, the Wilkinson Microwave Anisotropy Probe and other probes. Measurements of the cosmic background radiation give the cooling time of the universe since the Big Bang,[4] and measurements of the expansion rate of the universe can be used to calculate its approximate age by extrapolating backwards in time."
1. Planck collaboration (2013). "Planck 2013 results. I. Overview of products and scientific results". Submitted to Astronomy & Astrophysics. arXiv:1303.5062.
2. Bennett, C.L.; Larson, L.; Weiland, J.L.; Jarosk, N.; Hinshaw, N.; Odegard, N.; Smith, K.M.; Hill, R.S.; Gold, B.; Halpern, M.; Komatsu, E.; Nolta, M.R.; Page, L.(December 20, 2012). Nine-Year Wilkinson Microwave Anisotropy Probe (WMAP) Observations: Final Maps and Results. arXiv:1212.5225. Retrieved January 1, 2013.
3. Short scale usage, i.e., 13.798 thousand million.
4. "Cosmic Microwave Background Radiation". History of Cosmology. British Broadcasting Co. UK. Retrieved 2011-03-09.
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Neither you nor science can answer: In what year/month and on what day did this happen...per science: In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.....

No answer....so much for science!!!!!
Dan

Omaha, NE

#441942 May 17, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
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Not really, I jsut wanted to express my thoughts - more directly - because you can;t seem to grasp them in the other formats I've expressed.
I can see it caught your attention, without any formible response to refute it.
Not very knowledgeable is all I've gleened from you.
You'll have to provide at least one post that shows you really are a Catholic. So far, you are a heretic, just like you have applied upon me.
Typical Catholic.
It's "formidable" and "gleaned", since we're speaking of "not very knowledgeable".
Jumper The Wise

Owensboro, KY

#441943 May 17, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
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Preaching ABOUT the meaning of love, does not mean that the preachers know the meaning of love.
I've met many preachers that preach about how to get to heaven and how to avoid hell, as though a god has placed a stamp on their foreheads that states ... "saved!
Silly stuff spews from the mouths of preachers, who belief that they are "all that" to their selves and therefore MUST be "all that" to a god.
I somehow doubt that if a creator exists, that the creator would be so easily fooled by worship from those who adore their own reflections that come back to them through words they glean from human-created literature.
Out on a bender huh?
Well its nice to see the posters on this thread are wise to your little tricks.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#441944 May 17, 2013
Black Thunder 42 wrote:
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Very good...
Now tell me how easily anyone can gain access to "any" of the archives...or copy any material.
One must be of academics or a "Postulator".

"Research in the Vatican Secret Archives is free of charge and open to qualified scholars conducting scientific studies. All researchers must hold a university degree (five-year course) or an equivalent university diploma. Clergymen must possess a licentiate degree or PhD."
http://www.luxinarcana.org/en/la-mostra/larch...

"Postulators working on sainthood causes may gain admission to the unopened archives if they need to research the life of the would-be saint.

Postulators cannot publish or divulge information gathered during these advance viewings of archival material, and for each visit they need permission from the Vatican secretary of state. For the church's saint makers, it's the ultimate background check."
http://www.catholicnews.com/data/stories/cns/...

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