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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 690307 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#441487 May 16, 2013
Or you were never Catholic to begin with....I think has been stated several times too.

*shrugs*

It's alright - I accept you for who you are, not your beliefs.
Just Sayin

Nashville, TN

#441488 May 16, 2013
jethro8 wrote:
<quoted text>well,all i hear is "GOD HAS A PLAN" so what ever happens to a person must be part of gods plan for that individual,wouldn't you agree? and I've heard many times "IT'S GODS WILL" does that not apply to people? and why would he punish man for the killing of his son? when he knew from the moment he/Jesus appeared on earth,his destiny was to be killed, supposedly for our sins,which is not true,he was killed because he was considered a heretic,a threat to the powers that be because he was building a big following,and that made the aristocrats nervous,so they got rid of him.
I hate it when people say "It's God's will" when something terrible happens. Bad things will happen and it is God's favorite thing to make something good come of it.

There was a woman who grew up hating God because when she was seven her mom died and at the funeral service, the preacher, during the eulogy, looked right at her and said "Jesus took your mommy to be with Him." It affected her very very deeply. She finally went into therapy later in life because of all the issues she had.
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#441489 May 16, 2013
chuck wrote:
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Just Sayin wrote:
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If there is anything I know with more surety than I know my own name is that the CC is the key to my salvation.
**Just Sayin says the cc is the key to his salvation. Why you telling me?
You told him to get out while he still has time. The Catholic Church is the body of Christ. Why would you tell hime to reject Christ's body. How do your family members who are still faithful Catholics react when you tell them this?
chuck

Dublin, OH

#441490 May 16, 2013
Just Sayin wrote:
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It's through the Church that I learn about Jesus the Savior. It's the Church that gives me the Eucharist, Jesus Christ, body blood soul and divinity.
Just Sayin - "It's through the Church that I learn about Jesus the Savior

Chuck - I learn from God's Word about Jesus the Savior

Just Sayin - "It's the Church that gives me the Eucharist,Jesus Christ, body blood soul and divinity

Chuck - Jesus Christ gave me His body blood soul and divinity on the cross

**Get out while you still can Just Sayin

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#441491 May 16, 2013
chuck wrote:
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Have you every heard the one...maybe you're going through this difficult time because God is trying to get your attention?
Maybe??
It's a ruse.

Example:

Last summer - a guy just bought a new truck within the previous week. Went over to his buddy to pick him up, and decided to go down the road I live next to. Somewhere in his travels, as he was driving 40 MPH, he either passed out at the wheel or something like that, and leaned forward, accelerating the truck, but having no control, managed to drive straight for about 50 feet, until it hit a curb, flip one way, rolled, hit another curb, and then caused the cause to flip the other direction, slamming into a large brick wall.

This man died at the impact. The passenger survived.

Using your logic - it doesn't look like "God" gave any attention to the driver at all - especially, in some way to say - "Hey bud, you are going to pass out and get killed, let's change course shall we."

I disagree with you - you have not provided any evidence to support your position, except by opinion. That won't cut it.

What else you got?
chuck

Dublin, OH

#441492 May 16, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
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You told him to get out while he still has time. The Catholic Church is the body of Christ. Why would you tell hime to reject Christ's body. How do your family members who are still faithful Catholics react when you tell them this?
They react just like you guys do. Recite everything you've been taught since childhood.
Just Sayin

Nashville, TN

#441493 May 16, 2013
Religion A Delusion wrote:
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Thank you.
Have you seen God too?
I have seen His wonderful creation and that's enough for me. Life is so intricate and complicated and ordered that it is far more easier for me to believe this universe has an Author than it is for me to believe all this is sheer coincidence.

Did you know that the dude who first proposed the Big Bang Theory, Georges Lemaitre, was a priest, astronomer and professor of physics at the Catholic University of Louvain?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georges_Lema%C3%...

Interesting, huh?

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#441494 May 16, 2013
waaasssuuup wrote:
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i've found myself through dying and being born-again.
"if you chose to save(find) your life you'll lose it, but if you lose your life for My sake, you'll find it" THE REAL JESUS
Self - changing the way one thinks.

"I died" - changed my belief
"born again" - changed my belief

I think the delusion so-called "Christians" share is that they think literal words have a literal meaning, when in truth allergory and symbolism are the comparisons.

You haven't done shite to change. All you do is parrot others.
Just Sayin

Nashville, TN

#441495 May 16, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
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I disagree with your conclusion.
But I guess I wouldn't expect less - meaning a "Catholic theologian" to determine a secular definition to only include his own organization and noone else.
"The definition of the Church given by Bellarmine is that usually adopted by Catholic theologians: "A body of men united together by the profession of the same Christian Faith, and by participation in the same sacraments, under the governance of lawful pastors, more especially of the Roman Pontiff, the sole vicar of Christ on earth"
You'll have to do better than this, because I can state many other beliefs that existed prior to 325 CE - and all of them were considered as part of the so-called "Church".
Your qualifiers are weel after the fact - as he existed 1000s of years past the actually forming of this entity.
4 October 1542 17 September 1621
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Bellarmin...
What else you got that isn't biased.
NASL, I define "Church" as being the Catholic Church, the one founded by Jesus. If I were protestant I would define "Church" as a mystical loosely associated group of "believers". If I were a satanist, I would define "Church" as something else. I am Catholic, therefore "Church" as I use the word, refers the the Catholic Church.
Sorry you don't like my definition. What would your definition of "Church" be?
chuck

Dublin, OH

#441496 May 16, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
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It's a ruse.
Example:
Last summer - a guy just bought a new truck within the previous week. Went over to his buddy to pick him up, and decided to go down the road I live next to. Somewhere in his travels, as he was driving 40 MPH, he either passed out at the wheel or something like that, and leaned forward, accelerating the truck, but having no control, managed to drive straight for about 50 feet, until it hit a curb, flip one way, rolled, hit another curb, and then caused the cause to flip the other direction, slamming into a large brick wall.
This man died at the impact. The passenger survived.
Using your logic - it doesn't look like "God" gave any attention to the driver at all - especially, in some way to say - "Hey bud, you are going to pass out and get killed, let's change course shall we."
I disagree with you - you have not provided any evidence to support your position, except by opinion. That won't cut it.
What else you got?
Here we go again...I did provide with scripture why we go through difficult times and why bad things happen. However..you can't provide evidence your story is true..lol..thanks

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#441497 May 16, 2013
jethro8 wrote:
<quoted text>question,was jesus god on earth? question,did jesus create the catholic church as his own? question what religious group do you believe in? and why?
C'mon - are you serious Jethro? Asking these questions of me now?

You've been here a while now, and you've seen and answered many of my posts.

You figure it out.

I'll give you help in this area:
- I'm not Catholic nor am I a so-called "Christian"
- Jesus is not "God" - he never called himself such, so why should others? Arrogance and ego comes to mind rather quickly.
- No Jesus didn't create anything. Men created the supposed "Catholic Church" - and is only one organization within the so-called "Church"
- As for my religious affiliation or "belief", well up until June arrived, I would consider myself Gnostic, but now that she has turned me into something else, I guess I am still seeking out a new order. What do you think I should become?
- as for why.....why not? Is there a problem with me believing the way I want? Is something bad going to happen to me, if I do?
Just Sayin

Nashville, TN

#441498 May 16, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
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You may find the book amazing, but that is all it can be.
We know it is not part of the Catechism nor is it within the canon, so you can read it all of your days, but it doesn't have any bearing on Christianity.
The same can be said about the numerous volumes by Edgar Cayce - who was a healer, prophet, and doctor.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edgar_Cayce
Edgar Cayce (/&#712;ke&#618;si &#720;/; March 18, 1877 January 3, 1945) was an American psychic who allegedly possessed the ability to answer questions on subjects as varied as healing and wars, and had visions of the world ending.[citation needed] He also gave a reading about Atlantis while in a hypnotic trance. Cayce founded a nonprofit organization, the Association for Research and Enlightenment.[1] Though Cayce himself was a member of the Disciples of Christ and lived before the emergence of the New Age Movement, some believe he was actually the founder of the movement and influenced its teachings
Hmmmmm....sounds very similar to your reference.
Sounds to me the HS had guided Edgar as well.
I'm not sure what spirit guided Edgar. Could have been the HS, could have been something else, I don't know that much about Cayce. He seems like an interesting guy.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#441499 May 16, 2013
Just Sayin wrote:
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NASL, I define "Church" as being the Catholic Church, the one founded by Jesus. If I were protestant I would define "Church" as a mystical loosely associated group of "believers". If I were a satanist, I would define "Church" as something else. I am Catholic, therefore "Church" as I use the word, refers the the Catholic Church.
Sorry you don't like my definition. What would your definition of "Church" be?
The Church
- faithful followers of the teachings of Jesus
- no organization or ruling organization - it is available to all followers

You and all of Christianity has failed, because you don't believe in all of Jesus, your fist qualifier, yet not complete or "Full".

You put too much faith in men.

How can fallible men define an infallible "God"?
- Your last answwer leans on the HS, yet you agree that the HS still inspires men, but not enough for them to write more details about "God".

Why do you limit "God" and the HS?

Do yo honestly think "God" has been defined?
Just Sayin

Nashville, TN

#441500 May 16, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
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Yes you have - if you are a Catholic.
This organization has a finite teaching - with no room to add or remove.
You've stopped. Just be honest and admit it.
If you accept other teachings, then guess what, you aren't Catholic, but only in your own mind.
In fact, you would be considered a heretic if you utilize non-canonical works.
Just ask Regina and Dan.
I disagree. The CC's teachings are not finite since these teachings are about the nature of God and our relationship to Him. God is infinite, therefor there is no end to learning about Him. Plenty of room for growth.

“let's do this thang!”

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#441501 May 16, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
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Self - changing the way one thinks.
"I died" - changed my belief
"born again" - changed my belief
I think the delusion so-called "Christians" share is that they think literal words have a literal meaning, when in truth allergory and symbolism are the comparisons.
You haven't done shite to change. All you do is parrot others.
why do you listen to only anti-christ's but refuse to hear Jesus The Christ?

hint: SELF-centerdness

Repentance = changing the way one thinks

"repent, for the kingdom of Heaven is at hand" Thee Jesus
Just Sayin

Nashville, TN

#441502 May 16, 2013
chuck wrote:
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Just Sayin - "It's through the Church that I learn about Jesus the Savior
Chuck - I learn from God's Word about Jesus the Savior
Just Sayin - "It's the Church that gives me the Eucharist,Jesus Christ, body blood soul and divinity
Chuck - Jesus Christ gave me His body blood soul and divinity on the cross
**Get out while you still can Just Sayin
I believe reading about Jesus in the Bible is good. And it is also helpful to learn about Jesus the Savior from those who are qualified to teach about Him, rather than rely solely on my own intellect as I peruse the Bible to know Him. If all you need is a Bible, then why have a preacher or go to church?

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#441503 May 16, 2013
Just Sayin wrote:
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I disagree. The CC's teachings are not finite since these teachings are about the nature of God and our relationship to Him. God is infinite, therefor there is no end to learning about Him. Plenty of room for growth.
Then you aren't Catholic.

The Catholic faith has been defined - through their Catechism.

If you don't believe this, then you really are ignorant of Catholicism.

What "infinite" teachings does Catholicism have?

How did they come to exist as "infinite", since you think they are not finite? Please porvide the citation or specific statement by "God".
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#441504 May 16, 2013
chuck wrote:
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They react just like you guys do. Recite everything you've been taught since childhood.
It's a good idea for the 2000 year old apostolic faith to be taught from childhood. Do you just hand your kids a bible and say "have at it!"?

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#441505 May 16, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
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So.....the Catholic religion, according to you, publish the BS teaching of a priest????...
The BS of hundredds of priests over 1700. Yes.

Christiianity has nothing to do with Jesus and never has.

You follow Paul, Popes, Emperors and Preists. Not the teachings of Jesus.

"Jesus wept."
chuck

Dublin, OH

#441506 May 16, 2013
Just Sayin wrote:
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If all you need is a Bible, then why have a preacher or go to church?
Because God says so...

Hebrews 10:24 And let us consider one another in order to stir up love and good works, 25 not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as is the manner of some, but exhorting one another, and so much the more as you see the Day approaching.

**Get out while you can Just Sayin

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