Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 589351 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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Regina

Long Branch, NJ

#440970 May 14, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
Regina wrote:
It means just what I said it does....that he was baptized into the Catholic Church. It does not mean that he went on to practice his faith. He received all the graces from the Sacrament, but it is not an indicator of whether or not he *necessarily* utilized them or cooperated with them.
Thanks.
New Age wrote:
And you can discern all of this by......[fill in the blank]....
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- "It does not mean that he went on to practice his faith."
- "He received all the graces from the Sacrament, but it is not an indicator of whether or not he *necessarily* utilized them or cooperated with them."
Yes you did. How did you do so?
No, I did not. Do you see the words "NOT an indicator of whether or not" in the above quote? That means that you could have gone on to practice the faith OR you could not have gone on to practice the faith.

I did not make a determination one way or the other.....because.....being baptized into the church is NOT (as I said) an indicator of whether or not you went on to practice your faith.

To put it another way.....maybe you did, maybe you didn't. Sheesh, a little thick-headedness going on there, NASL? This is the last time I'm going to bother explaining it. Think what the heck you want to think, even if you are mistaken. ES and EB.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#440971 May 14, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
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55 million babies murdered inside and outside the womb by abortion since 1973 in this country. Tell me about parents caring for their children.
I guess this is one of the way "God's Plan" is controlling the population, huh?

Why do you think "God" allows abortions to continue?

Since: Sep 09

Smithers, Canada

#440972 May 14, 2013
Regina wrote:
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No, that is what you wanted it to mean.
I simply do not presume to judge my own soul.
You are telling a different story now.

If you HOPE that you will be saved, that means you haven't absolute faith that it will occur.

If you did, you would state "We believe absolutely we WILL be saved.

But it's understandable that you want to appear humble rather than greedy.

:)

Since: Sep 09

Smithers, Canada

#440973 May 14, 2013
Black Thunder 42 wrote:
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Why don'y you do the research before you post such assinine remarks about it? You make a fool of yourself.
Who and what were the Annunaki? The "watchers"? The "blackheads?
How do these relate to the religious writings of the people 15000 yrs ago and of the Abrahamics?
Do you know?
If not, then you should not pretend you do...you make an ass of yourself...."Knowledge "---remember?
From my perception you are full of B.S.... not knowledge.

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#440974 May 14, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
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This is the arrogant attitude of which I expressed earlier.
You always did think yourself extremely knowledge-able. You suggest that knowledge is available to others, but that we just can't grasp it.
And now you have a partner who seems to believe the same.
At least the Christians rely on scriptures as their supposed proof of knowledge.
Who is dumb and who is dumber is all a matter of perception, and I have a feeling you pity those of us who haven't mastered "knowledge" as have you.
You are not dumb. You are willfully ignorant.
That is not anyone's fault but your own.
You make assinine assumptions based in total ignorance of the facts or history, and claim it as truth. You are a complete idiot at your own behest...and you have the audacity to blame others for it!
Knowledgable about the subjects you are referring? YES!
Grasp it?
If you refuse to even find it, you can NEVER attain it!
You are the product of your own willful ignorance due to laziness and arrogance.
Your perception is "flawed" in honesty, truth, and fairness.

YOU are your own worst enemy.

Since: Sep 09

Smithers, Canada

#440975 May 14, 2013
Human Being wrote:
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June VanDerMark:
I don't think he is a modern Pagan. I will let him speak for himself.
If you don't think he's a modern Pagan, you are assessing his religion in the reverse.

:)

Since: Sep 09

Smithers, Canada

#440976 May 14, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
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One thing for sure - you do "presume" a lot of things.
Maybe one day, you'll step off that rock, and travel to the next one, and research that which you presume.
Good luck!
Of course I presume a lot from what I read. And it seems that you and Black Thunder are pompous asses in talking over other people's heads as though you know each other's secret knowledge.

Silly people.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#440977 May 14, 2013
Human Being wrote:
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June VanDerMark:
I don't think he is a modern Pagan. I will let him speak for himself. And I am not trying to be critical, but simply comparing and contrasting an idea for you.
New Age beliefs are a form of pantheism. And in general pantheists tend toward pacifism. It is not so much a matter of arguing there is a half full or half empty glass, as much as everything is shaded.(There is not light and dark, only degrees of "enlightenment".)
I think modern Pagans are less defined, or ill-defined, but lean toward pantheism as well.
So they may share the common view that Satan(Darkness) does not exit.
Thanks HB for just commenting. You are right though - I am not a Pagan.

Since: Sep 09

Smithers, Canada

#440978 May 14, 2013
My guess is these two also believe they have travelled out of the universe via telepathy.

They have seen how the world was made ... from where humans came and where they will go after they die.

GEEZ LOUISE! There's no end to self-ingratiating Tomfoolery.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#440979 May 14, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
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If you don't think he's a modern Pagan, you are assessing his religion in the reverse.
:)
How's that? C'mon - you seem to want to enlighten me, yet you haven't yet.

BTW -'religion' is such a big word. Let's just keep it simple with 'belief', okay?

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#440980 May 14, 2013
Human Being wrote:
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New Age Spiritual Leader:
I read the article, and more or less you use the same position, and I follow your logic.
In my experience, I have seen someone demon possessed and doing harm to themselves(and drive away hope as defiance, not figuratively, but in actuality.) So for me the position taken by you and the article as only a mental projection/contruct, is not true.
And I suspect you accept that things exist which are unseen, and will remain unseen in this world. So the logic of the argument is inconsistent.
But even if you do not accept the unseen, and that the revelation of an evil intent remains below the surface of things, the continuation of the world, yields the results of evil intentions, and this "seems" to be stressing life on this planet closer to extinction. And thus anti-life disguised within darkness.(It is difficult to go farther.) This anti-life has purpose, and design. Therefore must have being. And the name is Satan/Devil.
It is the attempt of the human mind to "isolate" any mental character that is undesirable [in]to an entity that is removed from the psyche, and therefor the individual is not held responsible for that thought or action.

There is your "satan" It is an integral part of each and every one of you---that you would like to remove yourselves from...and "religion" does that for you.
Religion A Delusion

Titusville, FL

#440981 May 14, 2013
Just Sayin wrote:
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Well, atheists seem to go with the "there is no god and he's evil" premise.
Why did God not reveal himself all at once to everyone simultaneously? Maybe because we couldn't have handled something so mindblowing. He is not a rapist, but a gentleman. I trust that He is merciful to those whose understanding of Him is not very clear, especially if we keep trying to understand Him better as He is, not as we want Him to be.
God is not a vending machine, so don't get pissed off when your prayers (demands) are not instantly answered to your liking. God has His ways and His perogatives. So long as you can't accept the fact that He loves you and wants the best for you, you will be tormented unnecessarily.
Correction... this agnostic says while it's certainly possible a higher power exists, we currently have no evidence of any god.

All of mankind's gods throughout history have proven to be imaginary and imaginary gods are neither good nor evil.

I agree. God is not a vending machine, because vending machines are real. You don't have to make up stories in order to believe vending machines exist.

You reject 99% of all the gods in world history -- all except the god that was most likely drilled into your head since childhood.

You claim to have intimate knowledge of this god, with answers to some of the most profound questions in the Universe. Wow!

Here's the problem. You have no evidence beyond your imagination. If you did have factual evidence, then the world would beat a path to your door. You would also collect millions of dollars in reward money that various religious institutions have put up for real proof.

Good for you, because you'll soon be wealthy -- or you're simply delusional.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#440982 May 14, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
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Of course I presume a lot from what I read. And it seems that you and Black Thunder are pompous asses in talking over other people's heads as though you know each other's secret knowledge.
Silly people.
JohnfmNJ - is that you?

And no - their is no "secret knowledge" - it is already visible.

You [Self] just need to be motivated enough to go and seek it.

It really isn't that difficult to do.

a. Be honest with yourself and others.
b. Do what you like to do, to be happy.
c. Love others, as you would like to be done to you.
d. Offer help to others when you are able to.
e. Smile.
f. Give a child a toy to really see joy and love.

All very simple day-to-day tasks that anyone can do and live to do. All will also be catalysts and factor to achieving a wonderful life.

"Secret knowledge" - no - just common sense.

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#440983 May 14, 2013
Human Being wrote:
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Black Thunder 42:
A couple of examples:
In the Mahabarata, wasn't it Arjuna that blew the horn of war, and shot the arrows that destroyed both sides? Have you read the Bhagavad-Gita?
Egypt's Thutmosis II marched in the name of their gods to Meggido to conquer.(Note on Armeggedon). And Egypt's goddess of war was Neith.
I thin you are correct that there is a connection to what you are writing however, in that humanity uses the name of God to go to war, and mainly this is for economic/resource reasons.(In ancient times the world seemed endless.) But as we know the world is finite, and resouces are becoming less, are people going to be "tricked" into war in the name of God? What is your opinion?
I think you understand.
It is always asset that is the real cause...and religion is used to motivate the forces (to the death).
How convenient.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#440984 May 14, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
My guess is these two also believe they have travelled out of the universe via telepathy.
They have seen how the world was made ... from where humans came and where they will go after they die.
GEEZ LOUISE! There's no end to self-ingratiating Tomfoolery.
Telepathy is the transmitting or reading of another person's mind without verbal speak.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telepathy

No - I am unable to do that, but I do find it odd, for the past 30 years, I've noticed that I finish other's sentences, usually provide them with a certain need before they physically ask me for it, and damn - am I one lucky sonofabiotch - I seem to win everything I enter a drawing for.*shrugs*

Telepathy may be instilled in me, but since I've never been tested scientifically, I really can't say.

What you are trying to say with this, isn't telepathy, but can be included in an "out of body experience" or possibly "remote viewing". And yes I do believe some people do have these "special abilities" and can be honed enough to be proficient at it. Have I ever met anyone personally like this? No I haven't.

I learned a long time ago that a closed mine will only see darkness.

*whispers* Please try and stay focused on the topic.

Thanks!

Since: Sep 09

Smithers, Canada

#440985 May 14, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
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You are right though - I am not a Pagan.
That's right ... keep us guessing. It seems you might be a Christian-modernized Pagan. Ex-Catholic probably ... Christian lite ... Pagan heavy.

This is really fun, and very moving.

:)
Anthony MN

Saint Paul, MN

#440986 May 14, 2013
Religion A Delusion wrote:
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One out of every two babies - killed by God before age 10.
Then came modern medical science.
Those were children already born. So why aren't you angry at your "loving god?"
Plus, the Bible tells us that an unborn fetus is not the same as a conceived human. Did you know that?
Get your delusions straight.
I'm not sure why you think God killed them, I certainly don't.

And I didn't mention the bible.

Since: Sep 09

Smithers, Canada

#440987 May 14, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
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I learned a long time ago that a closed mine will only see darkness.
My guess is, it's the Christian part of you that persuades you that you see light. The Jesus-call has rubbed off on you. Are you feeling the Judaism flowing your vains?

:)

Since: Sep 09

Smithers, Canada

#440988 May 14, 2013
through your vains

Since: Sep 09

Smithers, Canada

#440989 May 14, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
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JohnfmNJ - is that you?
And no - their is no "secret knowledge" - it is already visible.
You [Self] just need to be motivated enough to go and seek it.
It really isn't that difficult to do.
a. Be honest with yourself and others.
b. Do what you like to do, to be happy.
c. Love others, as you would like to be done to you.
d. Offer help to others when you are able to.
e. Smile.
f. Give a child a toy to really see joy and love.
All very simple day-to-day tasks that anyone can do and live to do. All will also be catalysts and factor to achieving a wonderful life.
"Secret knowledge" - no - just common sense.
That's quite a sermon. But it can't complete with the sermon told by Catholics that Jesus the Jew told his followers that only through belief in Catholicism can they be saved.

Now THAT is class A ... B.S.

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