Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

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Since: Sep 09

Houston, Canada

#440363 May 13, 2013
Dan wrote:
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Um, if you're going to reply to yourself, why ask me questions?
I was asking you a question, that you refused to answer. Note the last sentence.

I get it. You will believe that other savior-gods didn't come even the first time around, much less the second time around as promised by other theologians. But you WILL believe that a savior will come the second time around to save you.
Is that because you believe all the other people didn't deserve a savior ... but you are so special that the savior is BOUND to come?
Religion A Delusion

Titusville, FL

#440364 May 13, 2013
Dan wrote:
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They rejected Him during His lifetime.
I didn't slander anyone.
Jews DON'T think Jesus was the messiah.
Remember the mnemonic device. Use it.
The Jew's messiah was never supposed to be a god.

The messiah was supposed to be another warrior like King David, who was also called "son of god."

You also refused to address the fact that Jesus taught more than once that we could have his same power. Why would a god say that?

You slander the Jews in order to support your delusion. Thankfully, you can't legally kill them any longer. Nor kill me either. A true God would never need such compulsion.
Human Being

Breaux Bridge, LA

#440365 May 13, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
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Mother Teresa forced herself against her own conscience to keep the faith in Catholic dogmas.
And for that she will made into a Catholic saint.
June VanDerMark:

Conscience in a religious sense is different than the social sense(feeling good about one's decisions), and is only part of a free-will.

Also an informed conscience(in a philosophical sense), in making decisions is a highly complex set of variables(primarily virtues vs vices) to perform when done correctly.

Most children are forced to clean up their rooms. Most don't feel good about doing the work, but afterward various forms of "feeling good" are achieved.
Dan

Omaha, NE

#440367 May 13, 2013
Religion A Delusion wrote:
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It get it now.
Daddy-god created man, but somehow didn't figure in man's ineptitude when sending son-god to die on their behalf.
So daddy-god isn't inept. Just daddy-god's own creation and somehow daddy-god had no idea.
LOL, ever own an ant farm? That's like blaming the ants when a kid knocks over his ant farm.
You can't make it sound sensible or reasonable, because it's only a delusion -- just like all other gods in history.
Inept men rejected son-god. Crucified Him. Daddy-god knew this was going to happen as did son-god. Part of daddy-god plan.

Inept man remains inept (surprise).

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#440368 May 13, 2013
Dan wrote:
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"Know thyself" isn't license to project "thyself" upon others, is it?
I never implied it was.

It requires you, yes Dan, you, to define yourself - not others.

It won't be the RCC or any other Catholic standing next to you helping you when your death comes to fruition.
Dan wrote:
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I didn't think Gnosticism was Gnowitallicism.
It isn't. So you are correct.
Dan wrote:
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You may interpret as you wish, but no need to presume my need for correction. As they say, keep it to your......
Self.
I don't presume anything. You used the passage in the wrong context, and I showed you how you did. No presumption at all.

And yes, your choice to make that claim is all Self.

No religion is required.

Since: Sep 09

Houston, Canada

#440369 May 13, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
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You may believe as you wish. I for one, disagree, and I would suspect many others will agree with my position.
All those in religion will agree with you. That's most of the people in the world.

But the problem is ... you don't agree with each other about who is telling truth and who is telling lies.

I believe all myths of fortune telling are based on misinformation, and that I won't know anything until it happens ... if it even ever does happen.

Since: Sep 09

Houston, Canada

#440370 May 13, 2013
Human Being wrote:
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June VanDerMark:
Conscience in a religious sense is different than the social sense(feeling good about one's decisions), and is only part of a free-will.
Also an informed conscience(in a philosophical sense), in making decisions is a highly complex set of variables(primarily virtues vs vices) to perform when done correctly.
Most children are forced to clean up their rooms. Most don't feel good about doing the work, but afterward various forms of "feeling good" are achieved.
You and you nonsensical philosophical jargon could fill a book that might in turn be a best seller to those who prefer jargon.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#440371 May 13, 2013
Dan wrote:
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Yeah.
I'm arrogant.
Man is inept, God not so much.
When's the lightning hit?
THanks for your honesty it is noted.

If man is inept, and men wrote the Bible, that designates that teh Bible is not of "God", thus is inept.

In other words - you agree with my previous statement of "fallible men cannot define an infallible god."

Thanks for clearing that up.
Just Sayin

Nashville, TN

#440372 May 13, 2013
Religion A Delusion wrote:
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Very unequal.
The Holy Spirit is always coming in last. How many church are named after the "Holy Spirit?"
There are churches named after Mary, "Queen of Heaven" (not an official goddess BTW). There are churches named after her son.
But seriously, are there any named after the Holy Spirit (formerly Holy Ghost)?
Holy Ghost, Knoxville, TN.

Holyhttp://holyghostknoxville. org/

Holy Ghost, Denver, Co.

http://www.holyghostchurch.info/

HOly Ghost, Houston, TX.

http://holyghostchurch.net/

The Church of the Holy Ghost, Whitman, MA

http://www.holyghostwhitman.org/

Holy Ghost Church, Rochester, NY

http://www.holyghostrochester.org/

etc. etc. etc.

I used google. It was easy.
Clay

United States

#440373 May 13, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
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I gave you my belief that Christ is not God...and that God is not Christ....that is supported by the Catholic Apostle's Creed...that is what it teaches..it is based on Scripture.
You cannot show me the Holy Trinity that shows God is Christ and Christ is God....they are not the same....God said it...Christ said it....read your Bible....
- you can stop pretending to be a Christian now.

-if you are going to interpret sacred scripture like that, you might want to prove that Christ instructed us to do so.

- can you provide a verse where Christ teaches that the Bible is the sole source and provider of teachings on His Ministry?

- if I'm understanding your mindset correctly... you are taking the NT scriptures away from the Church that gathered, labeled and safeguarded em for 1600 + yrs and designing your own religion based on what you see from your eyes, and ignoring what was actually taught by the Apostles when they ALREADY explained their writings???

- how can you walk with balls the size of watermelons??
Dan

Omaha, NE

#440374 May 13, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
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So henceforth the name Jesus shall be called Harry.
I have written it, so it will be true.
:)
So, now "translation" means giving something a new name entirely?

I thought it meant the process of translating words or text from one language into another, as you cited.

Since: Sep 09

Houston, Canada

#440375 May 13, 2013
Religion A Delusion wrote:
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The Jew's messiah was never supposed to be a god.
The messiah was supposed to be another warrior like King David, who was also called "son of god."
The sons of the gods on earth were to match up with the gods in the sky.

Even George Bush's god was a supporter of George's war. George praised the son of the god Jesus (ne Ihcuc) in hopes that his father in heaven would help George win the war.

It seemed that George didn't know that Jews don't reside in heaven ... even in their theology.

:)

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#440376 May 13, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
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All those in religion will agree with you. That's most of the people in the world.
But the problem is ... you don't agree with each other about who is telling truth and who is telling lies.
I believe all myths of fortune telling are based on misinformation, and that I won't know anything until it happens ... if it even ever does happen.
Please don't include me in "you don't agree with each other" bit....you are making false assumptions.

Of course I don't agree with what Christianity states. IMO - it is incomplete - just because they don't use all the teachings by Jesus.
Dan

Omaha, NE

#440377 May 13, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
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I was asking you a question, that you refused to answer. Note the last sentence.
I get it. You will believe that other savior-gods didn't come even the first time around, much less the second time around as promised by other theologians. But you WILL believe that a savior will come the second time around to save you.
Is that because you believe all the other people didn't deserve a savior ... but you are so special that the savior is BOUND to come?
I never mentioned "all" or any of "the other people".
Human Being

Breaux Bridge, LA

#440378 May 13, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
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Incorrect conclusion.
The NT of the Bible actually only uses less than six of the original 13 Apostles, and two 3rd generation disciples as its authority.
Why don't you believe in all of what Jesus taught?
New Age Spiritual Leader:

Maybe?

Are you saying that if all writing by "supposed" Apostles, are the transmitted Christian message, then you are probable correct, and I would agree with you.(That there are not billions of Gnostic Christians.)

The question comes down to how "open-minded" someone is, and their ability to discern concerning the "supposed" existence of other writings.

I am not saying it is not worth considering. Rather that it may not be for everyone to. I consider that there are different paths that end up on the "spiritual" highway to heaven.

So I may not be locked into orthodoxy, nor locked into progressive views as well. So I try to approach all on their own level, and share a little, and maybe grow a little.
Dan

Omaha, NE

#440379 May 13, 2013
Religion A Delusion wrote:
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The Jew's messiah was never supposed to be a god.
The messiah was supposed to be another warrior like King David, who was also called "son of god."
You also refused to address the fact that Jesus taught more than once that we could have his same power. Why would a god say that?
You slander the Jews in order to support your delusion. Thankfully, you can't legally kill them any longer. Nor kill me either. A true God would never need such compulsion.
I don't recall Christ teaching that we were to become God.

....and I didn't slander anyone. Regardless of why they don't believe Christ is the Messiah, Jews don't believe He was the Messiah.
Tiger Lily

New Zealand

#440380 May 13, 2013
Dan wrote:
Catholic priests have apostolic authority (via ordination) as conferred by Christ in the above passages.
Maybe that's why you're having difficulty here.
Without that authority, no man could teach the Gospels authoritatively. We believe the scriptures where Christ ensured that His message will be taught with His authority until His return.
If I understand correctly, your sect does not believe that Christ's ministerial authority on Earth survived past the death of the last apostle.
Something has gone badly wrong then, Dan.
The RCC teaches a miriad of false doctrines which are plainly not biblical.
So many things have been added to the Catholic doctrines it is plain that all of that authority is now gone.
Jesuits and others have mis-interpreted scripture to make them fit pagan ideas.

For one: the RCC teaches natural immortality.
The Bible teaches a resurrection where the just will put on immortality.

PLAINLY a false RCC doctrine. Absolutely NOT what the apostles taught.

Since: Sep 09

Houston, Canada

#440381 May 13, 2013
Dan wrote:
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Well, I'm going to counter you here and say that the
ex-Jew Catholics wanting to break away probably DIDN'T reject Jesus' teachings.
Then why aren't Catholics practicing Judaism?

Use your brain now instead of following what you were taught by Catholic theologians TO believe.
Dan

Omaha, NE

#440382 May 13, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
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THanks for your honesty it is noted.
If man is inept, and men wrote the Bible, that designates that teh Bible is not of "God", thus is inept.
In other words - you agree with my previous statement of "fallible men cannot define an infallible god."
Thanks for clearing that up.
Men wrote the Gospel of Thomas.

A VERY short time ago, you were so certain that it was definitively instructive that you felt confident mentioning it while "correcting" me.

What happened between then and now?
Human Being

Breaux Bridge, LA

#440383 May 13, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
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You and you nonsensical philosophical jargon could fill a book that might in turn be a best seller to those who prefer jargon.
June VanDerMark:

You aren't tempting me, are you?

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