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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 670271 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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Regina

Lakewood, NJ

#440533 May 13, 2013
Clay wrote:
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Really? I did not know that.
How can a Baptist believe Jesus is not God? Do they have a new spinoff from the spinoffs now?
Ask them. Why do they believe half the tripe they do?

The SDAs think Jesus is the Archangel Michael, so one is as bad as the other. According to the world wide web the fundie/baptist/evangelical/you nameits hate the SDAs. Must be something in the kool-aid.

Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#440534 May 13, 2013
Black Thunder 42 wrote:
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(1) None.
Knowledge is available to everyone.
So you have no knowledge ... yet knowledge is available to everyone?

Now you are trying to feign humility.

What is this knowledge that you go on about anyway?
Clay

Garden City, MI

#440535 May 13, 2013
Tiger Lily wrote:
Catholics worship a Quadune.
"The Pope is not only the representative of Jesus Christ, he is Jesus Christ himself, hidden under the veil of flesh." Catholic National July 1895.
"We hold upon this earth the place of God Almighty" ...Pope Leo XIII Encyclical Letter of June 20, 1894,
"For thou art the shepherd, thou art the physician, thou art the director, thou art the husbandman, finally thou art another God on earth." Labbe and Cossart's "History of the Councils." Vol. XIV, col. 109
The title "Lord God the Pope" is found within a gloss of Extravagantes of Pope John XXII, title 14, chapter 4, In an Antwerp edition of the Extravagantes, the words, "Dominum Deum Nostrum Papam" (Our Lord God the Pope) can be found in column 153. In a Paris edition, they are found in column 140.
"The pope is the supreme judge of the law of the land ... He is the vicegerent of Christ, and is not only a priest forever, but also King of kings and Lord of lords"--La Civilta Cattolica, March 18, 1871.
"It seems that Pope John Paul II now presides over the universal Church from his place upon Christ's cross," said Bishop Dunn, who travelled with seven other prelates to Rome. Taken from an article entitled, "Auckland Bishop Says Pope Presides From the Cross" AUCKLAND, New Zealand, SEPT. 20, 2004 -Zenit.org (Article # ZE04092001)
I think you're entwining a few of your fanatical pamphlets with what the Church REALLY teaches about the Papacy.
If you were interested in what Catholics actually believe and teach, I might take a few moments to show you. But we both know you could give a rats behind about truth. You need your deceit in order to function as a group.
I'll follow Pope Francis because he's the successor to Peter. He's not God. He is not personally infallible. He is a sinner. But Christ promised His Church would be protected from error. The Pope does not error when he sits in the chair of Saint Peter. It couldn't be any other way.
The first Apostles had a leader after Christ left and so did their successors.
You can follow David Koresh's successor whoever that may be ..

Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#440536 May 13, 2013
Black Thunder 42 wrote:
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(2b) Non humans have the same contact with their environment as you and I.
Do you think they believe they have knowledge of why we exist?

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#440537 May 13, 2013
Clay wrote:
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Jesus is probably rolling over in his grave?? I didn't know He had one.
Jesus never commanded a Bible be compiled to dictate His ministry. If you believe otherwise, you must provide book, chapter and verse where He says it.
In fact, this false teaching of 'Bible Alone' was not invented til the 16th century.
You're preaching to the choir Clay.
I don't have to "prove" anything about what the proselyte says is truth- they do.

"I didn't know He had one." re:(Jesus)
You don't "know" that he didn't either.
Dan

Omaha, NE

#440538 May 13, 2013
Black Thunder 42 wrote:
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Who? How does the writing start out it's explanation?
Have you even read it?
I ask, because it doesn't appear that you have.
Jesus didn't write it in His own hand, so NASL's throwing stones while in a glass house.

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#440539 May 13, 2013
Regina wrote:
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Well, you've got at least one friend here. LTM agrees with you that Jesus isn't God.
Correction:(2)Two.

Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#440540 May 13, 2013
Black Thunder 42 wrote:
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You do believe "energy" exists don't you?
You had better-that's where everything that you know of has originated...you ARE the essence and result OF the interaction of energy.
Yes. I even get a shock now and again from the electricity. So, from your perception, is the source of this energy some sort of knowledge?
Clay

Garden City, MI

#440541 May 13, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
518
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I am not defining Tiger Lily nor Tiger Lady....I am defining "bro" which you used to address a lady.....
Look again:
bro
n. pl. bros Slang
1. A brother.
Maybe I have to learn my plants. I didn't know a Tiger Lily could be masculine or feminine. I thought it was simply a plant.

Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#440542 May 13, 2013
Black Thunder 42 wrote:
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(2a) Did I ever state there is a "divine plan"?
Maybe you didn't mention those words ... but I did get a sense from all you write that you believe you know how to explain the source of the energy.

Was I wrong?
Tiger Lily

Auckland, New Zealand

#440543 May 13, 2013
Tiger lilies are vey pretty.(No comment)
http://www.google.co.nz/search...
Clay

Garden City, MI

#440544 May 13, 2013
Regina wrote:
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Ask them. Why do they believe half the tripe they do?
The SDAs think Jesus is the Archangel Michael, so one is as bad as the other. According to the world wide web the fundie/baptist/evangelical/you nameits hate the SDAs. Must be something in the kool-aid.
That is one scary cult. I don't know what I would do if my kids got lured into that crap.
I think they love the adrenaline of prophecies and apocalyptic talk. That's what fuels their religion. Its just a blood rush is all.
Hey, did you know our Pope Francis thinks he's Divine? Yeah, I just learned that from Tiger. The Pope thinks he's Jesus Christ!! lol.
unbelievable!

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#440545 May 13, 2013
Clay wrote:
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This is slander. Nobody outside of a few fanatical cults subscribe to your ridiculous excuse for a religion. I can see the zombie-like trance amongst your faces as you read through revelations and apply it to your pamphlets.
Pope's claim to be Divine?? Now THAT'S one accusation from your compounds I haven't come across yet. lol that's a good one!
Just outta curiosity, are you an SDA member? The Apocalyptic cult started by Amy Smith I believe? Unfortunately her victims couldn't cross check her propaganda, so she was able to snatch them into her goofy religion.
It is documented history.- Vatican documents, papal statements, and council declarations.
OldJG

Rockford, IL

#440546 May 13, 2013
More Roman Catholic bologna...

"Take care that we lose not that salvation, that life and breath which thou hast given us, for thou art our shepherd, thou art our physician, thou art our governor, thou art our husbandman, thou art finally another God on earth." Christopher Marcellus in Oration addressing Pope Julius II, in Fifth Lateran Council, Session IV (1512), Council Edition. Colm. Agrip. 1618,(Sacrorum Conciliorum, J.D. Mansi (ed.), Vol. 32, col. 761),(also quoted in History of the Councils, vol. XIV, col 109, by Labbe and Cossart).

"The Pope takes the place of Jesus Christ on earth...by divine right the Pope has supreme and full power in faith, in morals over each and every pastor and his flock. He is the true vicar, the head of the entire church, the father and teacher of all Christians. He is the infallible ruler, the founder of dogmas, the author of and the judge of councils; the universal ruler of truth, the arbiter of the world, the supreme judge of heaven and earth, the judge of all, being judged by no one, God himself on earth." Quoted in the New York Catechism.

"The pope is of so great dignity and so exalted that he is not a mere man, but as it were God, and the vicar of God..."The Pope alone is called most holy..."Hence the Pope is crowned with a triple crown, as king of heaven and of earth and of hell.

"Moreover the superiority and the power of the Roman Pontiff by no means pertains only to heavenly things, but also earthly things, and to things under the earth, and even over the angels, whom he his greater than.

"So that if it were possible that the angels might err in the faith, or might think contrary to the faith, they could be judged and excommunicated by the Pope....
"...the Pope is as it were God on earth, sole sovereign of the faithful of Christ, chief of kings, having plenitude of power." Lucius Ferraris, in "Prompta Bibliotheca Canonica, Juridica, Moralis, Theologica, Ascetica, Polemica, Rubristica, Historica", Volume V, article on "Papa, Article II", titled "Concerning the extent of Papal dignity, authority, or dominion and infallibility",#1, 5, 13-15, 18, published in Petit-Montrouge (Paris) by J. P. Migne, 1858 edition.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#440547 May 13, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
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I'm not satisfied with your response.
Okay. I'll clarify a little for you below.
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>If you don't believe a god inspired people of what to write, then why do believe that a god even exists.
Putting the words into my mouth - "If you don't believe a god inspired people of what to write" - is not going to help your position.
- I've never said this. But what I have said, that Christianity limits "God" because those followers think that "God" stopped telling "His" words to others to write.

I have to disagree with this line of thought, because men cannot define what "God" can or cannot do. In addition, I don't limit "God" in that regard. I do believe he can inspire ANYONE. There is no limit to "His" inspiration. Only Christianity and other religions place a finite line int he sand on "His" inspiration.

I don't. Much different from what you want me to say.
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>I know you do because you can, but that answer is simply a cop-out.
NO it isn't, if one is to understand the ability to choose or make a choice. You choose not to believe - okay...you have that right. It's a cop-out to not believe in a spiritual world when there is plenty of evidence to support the world exists.

http://www.bing.com/search...

You just choose to only accept what YOU want to believe. IMO - that is a cop-out.

Sounds a lot like you are trying to pass on, huh?

Self.

Move past the words and understand the meanings.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#440548 May 13, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
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What is your evidence?
See previous post.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#440549 May 13, 2013
Black Thunder 42 wrote:
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It does...only under different "auspices", and in varying degrees...since civilization has come to understand the atrocity and passed laws against it's actions.
I guess - this is true. Disheartening in many ways.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#440550 May 13, 2013
Religion A Delusion wrote:
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How about fear under the cloak of love.
This is a more accurate depiction.

One needs only to understand and express love freely - to realize that no religion is required to receive the same.

Wait - there is a "religion" required - just being human.
Tiger Lily

Auckland, New Zealand

#440551 May 13, 2013
Clay wrote:
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That is one scary cult. I don't know what I would do if my kids got lured into that crap.
I think they love the adrenaline of prophecies and apocalyptic talk. That's what fuels their religion. Its just a blood rush is all.
Hey, did you know our Pope Francis thinks he's Divine? Yeah, I just learned that from Tiger. The Pope thinks he's Jesus Christ!! lol.
unbelievable!
"The Pope is not only the representative of Jesus Christ, he is Jesus Christ himself, hidden under the veil of flesh." Catholic National July 1895.
"We hold upon this earth the place of God Almighty" ...Pope Leo XIII Encyclical Letter of June 20, 1894,
"For thou art the shepherd, thou art the physician, thou art the director, thou art the husbandman, finally thou art another God on earth." Labbe and Cossart's "History of the Councils." Vol. XIV, col. 109

The title "Lord God the Pope" is found within a gloss of Extravagantes of Pope John XXII, title 14, chapter 4, In an Antwerp edition of the Extravagantes, the words, "Dominum Deum Nostrum Papam" (Our Lord God the Pope) can be found in column 153. In a Paris edition, they are found in column 140.

"The pope is the supreme judge of the law of the land ... He is the vicegerent of Christ, and is not only a priest forever, but also King of kings and Lord of lords"--La Civilta Cattolica, March 18, 1871.

"It seems that Pope John Paul II now presides over the universal Church from his place upon Christ's cross," said Bishop Dunn, who travelled with seven other prelates to Rome. Taken from an article entitled, "Auckland Bishop Says Pope Presides From the Cross" AUCKLAND, New Zealand, SEPT. 20, 2004 -Zenit.org (Article # ZE04092001)

I guess you didn't check the credential, Clay.

Here they are again.
Tiger Lily

Auckland, New Zealand

#440552 May 13, 2013
http://babylonmysteryreligion.com/Quotes/pope...

Recently (1958) this was stated by Pope John XXIII

"The Saviour Himself is the door of the sheepfold:'I am the door of the sheep.' Into this fold of Jesus Christ, no man may enter unless he be led by the Sovereign Pontiff; and only if they be united to him can men be saved, for the Roman Pontiff is the Vicar of Christ and His personal representative on earth."

(Pope John XXIII in his homily to the Bishops and faithful assisting at his coronation on November 4, 1958).

Catholics still deny that they think they are the only ones who have the truth and are going to Heaven. ARROGANCE.

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