Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

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Since: Nov 08

usa

#438791 May 8, 2013
Just Sayin wrote:
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It is written in the Bible to confess our sins to each other. The verses were posted many times yesterday. Jesus told us to, so we do. Catholics confess to a priest who has been given authority to absolve sins and who is sworn to secrecy.
Protestants are free to confess to anyone they choose, including the town gossip.
The forgiveness of sin by God is never hinged in Scripture on confession to one another. The tax collector went away justified simply by asking God to be merciful to him (Luke 18:9-14). The thief on the cross went to heaven though he never confessed to those whom he had wronged. Though the forgiveness of God is sometimes stated to be dependent on whether we are willing to forgive another (see Matthew 6:14-15;18:21-35), it is never stated to be dependent on the confession of our own sins to others. God's forgiveness is given when we confess to Him. Luke 17:3-4, Jesus tells us that when a brother sins against us, we should rebuke him, and if he repents we are to forgive him. The repentance here at least implies confession. The prodigal son when he returned home said to his father: "I have sinned against heaven and in your sight" (Luke 15:21).(Again, notice, the confession is not that "I have squandered your wealth on prostitutes." The confession is not in the details, but in the acknowledgment of the sin.) In Numbers 5:6-8, the LORD gave command that those who sin shall confess the sin and make restitution to the one whom he has wronged. While this passage does not explicitly state to whom the confession is to be made, the implication is that the confession should be both to God and to the person wronged. In each of these situations, there is a wrong against the person, the person knows that he has been wronged, and the confession serves to seek the restoration of relationship and community.

Since: Nov 08

usa

#438792 May 8, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
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Hey Mr. Internet, since you have no problem quoting from satanworshippers.com , I would hope you're able to find the Epistle of St. James somewhere out there...
i did as you will see if you read my post.quite a few different versions,which one is the correct one.
LTM

Fort Frances, Canada

#438793 May 8, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
Rick Warren, whose son committed suicide, according to Rick suffered from mental illness.
Yet Rick Warren being a faith-filled Christian MUST believe that suicide is against GOD's plan.
My guess is, the pastor will look for a "fitting" scripture that will indicate that his own son will be sure to receive mercy from the suddenly all-merciful GOD.
There's something askew in this picture. It hangs sideways on the wall.
Suicide isn't in God's plan, God is the God of the living not the dead.

Matthew 10:28

28 And fear not them that kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul; but rather fear Him that is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

If God sent His son to die so we could have everlasting life, Why would He want someone to kill themselves.
His Commandment "THOU SHALL NOT KILL".

WHAT HAPPENS TO PEOPLE WHO COMMIT SUICIDE, HOW DOES GOD DEAL WITH THEM, THAT IS GOD'S BUSINESS.
GOD IS A MERCIFUL GOD, HIS MERCY ENDURETH FOREVER


MATTHEW 10

26 Fear them not therefore, for there is nothing covered that shall not be revealed, and hid that shall not be known.

27 What I tell you in darkness, that speak ye in light; and what ye hear in the ear, that preach ye upon the housetops.

28 And fear not them that kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul; but rather fear Him that is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

29 “Are not two sparrows sold for a farthing? And one of them shall not fall on the ground without your Father.

30 But the very hairs of your head are all numbered.

31 Fear ye not, therefore; ye are of more value than many sparrows.

32 “Whosoever therefore shall confess Me before men, him will I confess also before My Father who is in Heaven.

33 But whosoever shall deny Me before men, him will I also deny before My Father who is in Heaven.

DOES ANYONE KNOW WHAT GOES ON IN THE SPIRITUAL REALM, WITH GOD AT THE TIME OF DEATH.
DID YOU KNOW YOUR DAUGHTERS HEART, HER PAIN WAS FELT IN GOD'S OWN HEART. STOP JUDGING YOUR DAUGHTER AND ASSUME YOU KNOW WHERE SHE IS.

"THERE IS NO CONDENMATION EXCEPT WHAT IS COMMON TO MAN"
IN OTHER WORDS MAN CONDEMNS WHAT GOD DOES NOT.
ROMANS 8 :31 What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us?

32 He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things?

33 Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth.

34 Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.

35 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?

Since: Nov 08

usa

#438794 May 8, 2013
Just Sayin wrote:
<quoted text>
It is written in the Bible to confess our sins to each other. The verses were posted many times yesterday. Jesus told us to, so we do. Catholics confess to a priest who has been given authority to absolve sins and who is sworn to secrecy.
Protestants are free to confess to anyone they choose, including the town gossip.
sorry but i see nothing that styates it's ok to confess to anyone else but jesus and be relieved of that sin.if you wrong someone and confess to them,that is a different story,but you would you not have to confess to god/jesus also to absolved of that sin??
Just Sayin

Nashville, TN

#438795 May 8, 2013
marge wrote:
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No, I know what your talking about, we went to couples theropy, we confessed many sins and received much healing through prayer.
Well that's good. See how God works through people?
Just Sayin

Nashville, TN

#438796 May 8, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
just Sayin wrote:
The Church teaches that, yes.
And the Church also teaches that God works through people to minister His graces.
That is a hard concept, I know, when the "It's me-n-Jesus" thing has been so overly emphasized.
**********
God works through people to bring others to HIMSELF, not to THEMSELVES, or their particular group.
KayMarie
It's the me-n-Jesus thing again. Each believer has their own personal Jesus and each walks alone with their personal Jesus and no one else is supposed to "interfere". I get the impression that people like you believe there is a Jesus vending machine or something up in heaven with millions of Jesuses in it.
Order yours today!
Just Sayin

Nashville, TN

#438798 May 8, 2013
marge wrote:
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better watch what you mock, dan too;
~~~~~~~
You, however, are not in the realm of the flesh but are in the realm of the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God lives in you. And if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, they do not belong to Christ.
I'll watch what I mock as soon as you watch what you insinuate.
Dan

Omaha, NE

#438799 May 8, 2013
jethro8 wrote:
<quoted text>The forgiveness of sin by God is never hinged in Scripture on confession to one another. The tax collector went away justified simply by asking God to be merciful to him (Luke 18:9-14). The thief on the cross went to heaven though he never confessed to those whom he had wronged. Though the forgiveness of God is sometimes stated to be dependent on whether we are willing to forgive another (see Matthew 6:14-15;18:21-35), it is never stated to be dependent on the confession of our own sins to others. God's forgiveness is given when we confess to Him. Luke 17:3-4, Jesus tells us that when a brother sins against us, we should rebuke him, and if he repents we are to forgive him. The repentance here at least implies confession. The prodigal son when he returned home said to his father: "I have sinned against heaven and in your sight" (Luke 15:21).(Again, notice, the confession is not that "I have squandered your wealth on prostitutes." The confession is not in the details, but in the acknowledgment of the sin.) In Numbers 5:6-8, the LORD gave command that those who sin shall confess the sin and make restitution to the one whom he has wronged. While this passage does not explicitly state to whom the confession is to be made, the implication is that the confession should be both to God and to the person wronged. In each of these situations, there is a wrong against the person, the person knows that he has been wronged, and the confession serves to seek the restoration of relationship and community.
Well, Jesus was right in front of the tax collector. Ditto for the thief.

James writes after the Resurrection.

Numbers 5: which you quoted buttresses, rather than refutes, Catholic belief and practice. Confession is a public act (you walk into the confessional publicly) and you seek forgiveness for transgressions against Him and your neighbor, restoring your relationship with both.

Since: Nov 08

usa

#438800 May 8, 2013
Dan wrote:
<quoted text>
So, Timothy supercedes James?
James is to be torn out of one's Bible, yes?
i can ask you the same thing,the bible is infallible so the church says,so which passage is correct? Timmy or Jim? which passage came first? are they both correct? one contradicts the other,so how can they both be right?
Dan

Omaha, NE

#438801 May 8, 2013
jethro8 wrote:
<quoted text>sorry but i see nothing that styates it's ok to confess to anyone else but jesus and be relieved of that sin.if you wrong someone and confess to them,that is a different story,but you would you not have to confess to god/jesus also to absolved of that sin??
When James wrote "confess your sins to another that you may be healed", what do you think that meant?

Healed of what?
Dan

Omaha, NE

#438802 May 8, 2013
jethro8 wrote:
<quoted text>i can ask you the same thing,the bible is infallible so the church says,so which passage is correct? Timmy or Jim? which passage came first? are they both correct? one contradicts the other,so how can they both be right?
I wasn't playing "dueling Bible verses", you were.

The Church teaches to confess our sins to a priest to receive God's grace and forgiveness.

Since: Nov 08

usa

#438803 May 8, 2013
marge wrote:
<quoted text>
No, I know what your talking about, we went to couples theropy, we confessed many sins and received much healing through prayer.
you confessed to both your partner and to Jesus/god? or just to your partner?

Since: Nov 08

usa

#438804 May 8, 2013
Dan wrote:
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In Canada.
you have pictures? love to see them?

Since: Nov 08

usa

#438805 May 8, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
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We only get mean with rubes like you who don't have a clue what you're talking about while proceeding to trash everything we hold sacred.
at least i know the difference between the truth and B.S. when i read it, and you my friend are being fed bull cookies every Sunday,that is if you go to church every Sunday.
Just Sayin

Nashville, TN

#438806 May 8, 2013
jethro8 wrote:
<quoted text>The forgiveness of sin by God is never hinged in Scripture on confession to one another. The tax collector went away justified simply by asking God to be merciful to him (Luke 18:9-14). The thief on the cross went to heaven though he never confessed to those whom he had wronged. Though the forgiveness of God is sometimes stated to be dependent on whether we are willing to forgive another (see Matthew 6:14-15;18:21-35), it is never stated to be dependent on the confession of our own sins to others. God's forgiveness is given when we confess to Him. Luke 17:3-4, Jesus tells us that when a brother sins against us, we should rebuke him, and if he repents we are to forgive him. The repentance here at least implies confession. The prodigal son when he returned home said to his father: "I have sinned against heaven and in your sight" (Luke 15:21).(Again, notice, the confession is not that "I have squandered your wealth on prostitutes." The confession is not in the details, but in the acknowledgment of the sin.) In Numbers 5:6-8, the LORD gave command that those who sin shall confess the sin and make restitution to the one whom he has wronged. While this passage does not explicitly state to whom the confession is to be made, the implication is that the confession should be both to God and to the person wronged. In each of these situations, there is a wrong against the person, the person knows that he has been wronged, and the confession serves to seek the restoration of relationship and community.
It is all through Leviticus that the people are to go to the priest for atonement and forgiveness.

Since: Nov 08

usa

#438807 May 8, 2013
Jesus told us to love one another (John 13:34-35). John tells us that the one who loves knows God (1 John 4:7). Paul tells us that love fulfills the law (Romans 13:8; Galatians 5:13). Scripture also tells us that love covers a multitude of sins (Proverbs 10:12; 1 Peter 4:8). Those who love will not seek to hear the details of the sins of others, and those who love will not seek to hurt others with the details of their sins.
Just Sayin

Nashville, TN

#438808 May 8, 2013
jethro8 wrote:
<quoted text>sorry but i see nothing that styates it's ok to confess to anyone else but jesus and be relieved of that sin.if you wrong someone and confess to them,that is a different story,but you would you not have to confess to god/jesus also to absolved of that sin??
Are you saying that Catholics don't confess sins to God? Catholics know that God is there with them in the confessional and hears the confession and forgives the sin. The confession is to God in the presence of the priest.
You know: "where 2 or more are gathered in my name, there I am in their midst"?
Michael

Hamilton, Canada

#438809 May 8, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
who="Michael"
According to your bible a man named Jesus died because a small group of people were given a choice. Jesus or Barabas. 50/50....the crowd chose Jesus (as the story goes)
Nothing to do with dying for our sins. A crowd determined this mans fate because he pissed off his own religious leaders. Period.
If the crowd screamed Barabas instead, how would christianity have ever started? A tiny crowd determined who lived and who died. No one else.......(according to the bible)
**********
Sorry, Michael. Moses and Elijah appeared on the Mt. of Transfiguration, and briefed Jesus about what He would suffer the following week. David, in the Psalms, and Isaiah both clearly described what would happen to Jesus...and why.
As scripture verifies, some unpleasant things only showed the depravity of man...but, as Joseph told his brothers..."you meant it for evil, but God USED IT FOR GOOD."
Jesus instructed the disciples to do things (take swords) or pointed out something that happened, and said that,'it was SO THAT the scripture might be fulfilled.'
Jesus even died for the sins of those who chose Barabbas that day.
KayMarie
Kay Marie says......Sorry, Michael. Moses and Elijah appeared on the Mt. of Transfiguration,....and briefed Jesus about what He would suffer the following week.

Michael says.... If you believe Jesus is God why would anyone have to inform God Jesus about anything? Don't you believe God knows all?

Since: Nov 08

usa

#438810 May 8, 2013
Dan wrote:
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Well, Jesus was right in front of the tax collector. Ditto for the thief.
James writes after the Resurrection.
Numbers 5: which you quoted buttresses, rather than refutes, Catholic belief and practice. Confession is a public act (you walk into the confessional publicly) and you seek forgiveness for transgressions against Him and your neighbor, restoring your relationship with both.
the problem here is you believe what the catholic church teaches,and it is meaningless,there is nothing in the scriptures that gives credence to anything in the catechism of the church.the church without question is of pagan/christian origin. Jesus would not build a church of that nature.would he? of course not,and would he place it in a country that conquered his people and killed and tortured them,and stole their riches?they even stole a christian church and converted it to a catholic church with no divine authority. you belong to a church of thieves and perverts,as i repeat myself.their own history verifies MY BELIEFS.

Since: Nov 08

usa

#438811 May 8, 2013
Just Sayin wrote:
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Are you saying that Catholics don't confess sins to God? Catholics know that God is there with them in the confessional and hears the confession and forgives the sin. The confession is to God in the presence of the priest.
You know: "where 2 or more are gathered in my name, there I am in their midst"?
how do you know? does god speak to you? how else would you know,the only person hearing your sin is the priest in the other closet,you can't prove other wise.show me in scripture that god is with you in the confessional?

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