Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

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The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ. Read more
Dan

Omaha, NE

#438779 May 8, 2013
jethro8 wrote:
all these are about what st. James 5:16 supposedly said according to you,so which one is right??
They all say the same thing.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#438780 May 8, 2013
jethro8 wrote:
<quoted text>shake your right hand stab you with their left.
Either one would do ... in a pinch.
marge

Ames, IA

#438781 May 8, 2013
Just Sayin wrote:
<quoted text>
The Church teaches that, yes.
And the Church also teaches that God works through people to minister His graces.
That is a hard concept, I know, when the "It's me-n-Jesus" thing has been so overly emphasized.
better watch what you mock, dan too;

~~~~~~~

You, however, are not in the realm of the flesh but are in the realm of the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God lives in you. And if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, they do not belong to Christ.

Since: Nov 08

usa

#438782 May 8, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
Much harm was caused to the Native Indians by the Christians ... but I don't wish to imply that the Natives were not brutal to each other, as it seems that was the case as they warred and stole each other's women non-stop.
Humans simply are not nice and in order to accept without malice the reality of selfishness in others, I must first be comfortable with the recognition and acceptance of my own selfish nature.
Thanks for the compliment, but I realize that you feel a sense of comfort with my presence only because you agree with what I post.
If I was on a different wave-length than you, my guess is, you would not be glad to "know" me. However, I don't expect it to be otherwise on a forum.
man needs hobbies the lack of them caused wars to pass the time,i see no other reason for them,and your wrong as to why i like you,i like the fact you are honest in your posts no matter if i agree or not,there are a few people on here that i admire for their stand on their beliefs that do not agree with mine,but we get along fine,there is no comfort zone feeling here,i just like your style of dealing with people when they condemn your beliefs,you stay cool under fire.
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#438783 May 8, 2013
jethro8 wrote:
all these are about what st. James 5:16 supposedly said according to you,so which one is right??
You insisted that there's no way St. James said to confess to one another because it contradicts 1 Timothy. Is there any wonder no one takes you seriously?
Dan

Omaha, NE

#438784 May 8, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
just Sayin wrote:
The Church teaches that, yes.
And the Church also teaches that God works through people to minister His graces.
That is a hard concept, I know, when the "It's me-n-Jesus" thing has been so overly emphasized.
**********
God works through people to bring others to HIMSELF, not to THEMSELVES, or their particular group.
KayMarie
You don't believe that. You regard Holy Communion as a mere exercise in fellowship with each other. You removed Christ from it.

Christ brings us to Him through the Church He established.

Since: Nov 08

usa

#438785 May 8, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
The hair-flipping Ann Coulter brags of having the "fast-track" to heaven. Anyone who believes in Jesus has their sins wiped clean and are ready to go.
Simple and easy ... no need to go to a priest these days.
I do admire her tenacity. She out-smarted the pope, because she can do what she wants, and Jesus will take into "account" that she believes in him, so ALL debts are paid. No need for penance and guilt and all that other messy stuff.
If religion wasn't the cause of such suffering ... it would be the hilarious stuff of the best of comedy.
:)
it does make for good movies,i do enjoy the bible by john Houston,haven't seen it in awhile,and can't find it on dvd.

Since: Nov 08

usa

#438786 May 8, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
It's all about having "FAITH" my "child."
:)
sorry but i don't follow blind faith.that's like buying a house before you see it.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#438787 May 8, 2013
My guess is, everyone who goes to the bible (sooner or later) perceives their selves as theologians in the HIGHEST sense of the WORD!

They can't help their selves. It's too much temptation for their egos. They are caught in a self-make trap of arrogance and simply can't back off to take a different point of view.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#438788 May 8, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
<quoted text>
Did you lose two daughters? That's terrible. How did they die?
One died in her crib and one died from suicide.
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#438789 May 8, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
The lawyers of the man who was guilty stated they knew he was guilty but they were not allowed (without permission from the real killer) to divulge the information to the court.
And to top it off, the real killer was in the same prison with the innocent man on other charges, when asked to confess by the innocent man, he laughed in his face.
This story (in part) reminded me of the priest who also kept his silence while a man he knew was innocent of murder spent ten years in prison.
Some thing is very wrong with these two systems.
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>
26-Year Secret Kept Innocent Man In Prison
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18560_162-3914719...
I don't recall you ever linking the priest story.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#438790 May 8, 2013
Dan wrote:
<quoted text>

Christ brings us to Him through the Church He established.
No - in truth it is a choice a person made to either accept his teachings or not.

Christianity only chose to accept a portion of them. Thus another choice was made.

These choices - and you don't agree with their origin - Self, is what brings together those two components of Jesus and people.

Self.

Again, why don't you believe Jesus when he says that it is?

Since: Nov 08

usa

#438791 May 8, 2013
Just Sayin wrote:
<quoted text>
It is written in the Bible to confess our sins to each other. The verses were posted many times yesterday. Jesus told us to, so we do. Catholics confess to a priest who has been given authority to absolve sins and who is sworn to secrecy.
Protestants are free to confess to anyone they choose, including the town gossip.
The forgiveness of sin by God is never hinged in Scripture on confession to one another. The tax collector went away justified simply by asking God to be merciful to him (Luke 18:9-14). The thief on the cross went to heaven though he never confessed to those whom he had wronged. Though the forgiveness of God is sometimes stated to be dependent on whether we are willing to forgive another (see Matthew 6:14-15;18:21-35), it is never stated to be dependent on the confession of our own sins to others. God's forgiveness is given when we confess to Him. Luke 17:3-4, Jesus tells us that when a brother sins against us, we should rebuke him, and if he repents we are to forgive him. The repentance here at least implies confession. The prodigal son when he returned home said to his father: "I have sinned against heaven and in your sight" (Luke 15:21).(Again, notice, the confession is not that "I have squandered your wealth on prostitutes." The confession is not in the details, but in the acknowledgment of the sin.) In Numbers 5:6-8, the LORD gave command that those who sin shall confess the sin and make restitution to the one whom he has wronged. While this passage does not explicitly state to whom the confession is to be made, the implication is that the confession should be both to God and to the person wronged. In each of these situations, there is a wrong against the person, the person knows that he has been wronged, and the confession serves to seek the restoration of relationship and community.

Since: Nov 08

usa

#438792 May 8, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
<quoted text>
Hey Mr. Internet, since you have no problem quoting from satanworshippers.com , I would hope you're able to find the Epistle of St. James somewhere out there...
i did as you will see if you read my post.quite a few different versions,which one is the correct one.
LTM

Fort Frances, Canada

#438793 May 8, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
Rick Warren, whose son committed suicide, according to Rick suffered from mental illness.
Yet Rick Warren being a faith-filled Christian MUST believe that suicide is against GOD's plan.
My guess is, the pastor will look for a "fitting" scripture that will indicate that his own son will be sure to receive mercy from the suddenly all-merciful GOD.
There's something askew in this picture. It hangs sideways on the wall.
Suicide isn't in God's plan, God is the God of the living not the dead.

Matthew 10:28

28 And fear not them that kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul; but rather fear Him that is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

If God sent His son to die so we could have everlasting life, Why would He want someone to kill themselves.
His Commandment "THOU SHALL NOT KILL".

WHAT HAPPENS TO PEOPLE WHO COMMIT SUICIDE, HOW DOES GOD DEAL WITH THEM, THAT IS GOD'S BUSINESS.
GOD IS A MERCIFUL GOD, HIS MERCY ENDURETH FOREVER


MATTHEW 10

26 Fear them not therefore, for there is nothing covered that shall not be revealed, and hid that shall not be known.

27 What I tell you in darkness, that speak ye in light; and what ye hear in the ear, that preach ye upon the housetops.

28 And fear not them that kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul; but rather fear Him that is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

29 “Are not two sparrows sold for a farthing? And one of them shall not fall on the ground without your Father.

30 But the very hairs of your head are all numbered.

31 Fear ye not, therefore; ye are of more value than many sparrows.

32 “Whosoever therefore shall confess Me before men, him will I confess also before My Father who is in Heaven.

33 But whosoever shall deny Me before men, him will I also deny before My Father who is in Heaven.

DOES ANYONE KNOW WHAT GOES ON IN THE SPIRITUAL REALM, WITH GOD AT THE TIME OF DEATH.
DID YOU KNOW YOUR DAUGHTERS HEART, HER PAIN WAS FELT IN GOD'S OWN HEART. STOP JUDGING YOUR DAUGHTER AND ASSUME YOU KNOW WHERE SHE IS.

"THERE IS NO CONDENMATION EXCEPT WHAT IS COMMON TO MAN"
IN OTHER WORDS MAN CONDEMNS WHAT GOD DOES NOT.
ROMANS 8 :31 What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us?

32 He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things?

33 Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth.

34 Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.

35 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?

Since: Nov 08

usa

#438794 May 8, 2013
Just Sayin wrote:
<quoted text>
It is written in the Bible to confess our sins to each other. The verses were posted many times yesterday. Jesus told us to, so we do. Catholics confess to a priest who has been given authority to absolve sins and who is sworn to secrecy.
Protestants are free to confess to anyone they choose, including the town gossip.
sorry but i see nothing that styates it's ok to confess to anyone else but jesus and be relieved of that sin.if you wrong someone and confess to them,that is a different story,but you would you not have to confess to god/jesus also to absolved of that sin??
Just Sayin

Nashville, TN

#438795 May 8, 2013
marge wrote:
<quoted text>
No, I know what your talking about, we went to couples theropy, we confessed many sins and received much healing through prayer.
Well that's good. See how God works through people?
Just Sayin

Nashville, TN

#438796 May 8, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
just Sayin wrote:
The Church teaches that, yes.
And the Church also teaches that God works through people to minister His graces.
That is a hard concept, I know, when the "It's me-n-Jesus" thing has been so overly emphasized.
**********
God works through people to bring others to HIMSELF, not to THEMSELVES, or their particular group.
KayMarie
It's the me-n-Jesus thing again. Each believer has their own personal Jesus and each walks alone with their personal Jesus and no one else is supposed to "interfere". I get the impression that people like you believe there is a Jesus vending machine or something up in heaven with millions of Jesuses in it.
Order yours today!
Just Sayin

Nashville, TN

#438798 May 8, 2013
marge wrote:
<quoted text>
better watch what you mock, dan too;
~~~~~~~
You, however, are not in the realm of the flesh but are in the realm of the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God lives in you. And if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, they do not belong to Christ.
I'll watch what I mock as soon as you watch what you insinuate.
Dan

Omaha, NE

#438799 May 8, 2013
jethro8 wrote:
<quoted text>The forgiveness of sin by God is never hinged in Scripture on confession to one another. The tax collector went away justified simply by asking God to be merciful to him (Luke 18:9-14). The thief on the cross went to heaven though he never confessed to those whom he had wronged. Though the forgiveness of God is sometimes stated to be dependent on whether we are willing to forgive another (see Matthew 6:14-15;18:21-35), it is never stated to be dependent on the confession of our own sins to others. God's forgiveness is given when we confess to Him. Luke 17:3-4, Jesus tells us that when a brother sins against us, we should rebuke him, and if he repents we are to forgive him. The repentance here at least implies confession. The prodigal son when he returned home said to his father: "I have sinned against heaven and in your sight" (Luke 15:21).(Again, notice, the confession is not that "I have squandered your wealth on prostitutes." The confession is not in the details, but in the acknowledgment of the sin.) In Numbers 5:6-8, the LORD gave command that those who sin shall confess the sin and make restitution to the one whom he has wronged. While this passage does not explicitly state to whom the confession is to be made, the implication is that the confession should be both to God and to the person wronged. In each of these situations, there is a wrong against the person, the person knows that he has been wronged, and the confession serves to seek the restoration of relationship and community.
Well, Jesus was right in front of the tax collector. Ditto for the thief.

James writes after the Resurrection.

Numbers 5: which you quoted buttresses, rather than refutes, Catholic belief and practice. Confession is a public act (you walk into the confessional publicly) and you seek forgiveness for transgressions against Him and your neighbor, restoring your relationship with both.

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