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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

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The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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chuck

Sunbury, OH

#438421 May 7, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
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Did Jesus give them the power of telepathy?
I guess St. James should've checked with you before telling us to confess to one another.
I can't find the word confession either in John 20:23

Since: Sep 09

Williams Lake, Canada

#438422 May 7, 2013
Regina wrote:
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Actually, anyone who has an abortion, helps someone have an abortion, or performs an abortion is automatically excommunicated.
If they excommunicate them, why do the they have therapy sessions for women of the Catholic faith after they have abortions?
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Catholic Diocese of Alberta

Project Rachel is a ministry of reconciliation and healing for people of all ages who are suffering distress from a past abortion experience.

http://www.calgarydiocese.ca/life-a-family-re...

Since: Sep 09

Williams Lake, Canada

#438423 May 7, 2013
Just Sayin wrote:
<quoted text>
Part truth, part lies.
From you perspective, which part of what the Muslims preach is truth and which part is lies?

Will they be saved if they don't believe in Jesus as the one and only savior?

Since: Sep 09

Williams Lake, Canada

#438424 May 7, 2013
Just Sayin wrote:
<quoted text>
I have not always been Catholic. I arrived after many years as southern baptist and over a decade of being an agnostic.
So you were searching rather than finding. And now you are certain you have grabbed on to the REAL truth ... RIGHT???

It's common practice.
Just Sayin

Nashville, TN

#438425 May 7, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
From you perspective, which part of what the Muslims preach is truth and which part is lies?
Will they be saved if they don't believe in Jesus as the one and only savior?
True: There is a God
False: There is no Trinitarian Godhead
False: God is not a Father
True: We should obey God

I don't believe that heaven is automatically impossible for them just because they are Muslim.

More later, I have to run.

Since: Sep 09

Williams Lake, Canada

#438426 May 7, 2013
It's rather humorous that people believe Jesus tells the priests in the confessionals to forgive the new sins of Catholics.

But the Catholics take this stuff as serious business.

Feed them what appeals to their desires and they will believe most anything.
LTM

Marathon, Canada

#438427 May 7, 2013
"Why do we need to confess our sins if they have already been forgiven (1 John 1:9)?"

Answer: The apostle Paul wrote,“To the praise of his glorious grace, which he has freely given us in the One he loves. In him we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, in accordance with the riches of God's grace that he lavished on us with all wisdom and understanding”(Ephesians 1:6-8). This forgiveness is referring to salvation, in which God has taken our sins and removed them from us “as far as the east is from the west”(Psalm 103:12). This is the judicial forgiveness that God gives us upon receiving Jesus Christ as Savior. All our past, present, and future sins are forgiven on a judicial basis, meaning that we will not suffer eternal judgment for our sins. We still often suffer consequences of sin while we are here on earth, however, which brings us to the question at hand.

The difference between Ephesians 1:6-8 and 1 John 1:9 is that John is dealing with what we call “relational,” or “familial,” forgiveness—like that of a father and a son. For example, if a son does something wrong to his father—falling short of his expectations or rules—the son has hindered his fellowship with his father. He remains the son of his father, but the relationship suffers. Their fellowship will be hindered until the son admits to his father that he has done wrong. It works the same way with God; our fellowship with Him is hindered until we confess our sin. When we confess our sin to God, the fellowship is restored. This is relational forgiveness.

“Positional” forgiveness, or judicial forgiveness, is that which is obtained by every believer in Christ. In our position as members of the body of Christ, we have been forgiven of every sin we have ever committed or ever will commit. The price paid by Christ on the cross has satisfied God’s wrath against sin, and no further sacrifice or payment is necessary. When Jesus said,“It is finished,” He meant it. Our positional forgiveness was obtained then and there.

Confession of sin will help to keep us from the discipline of the Lord. If we fail to confess sin, the discipline of the Lord is sure to come until we do confess it. As stated previously, our sins are forgiven at salvation (positional forgiveness), but our daily fellowship with God needs to stay in good standing (relational forgiveness). Proper fellowship with God cannot happen with unconfessed sin in our lives. Therefore, we need to confess our sins to God as soon as we are aware that we have sinned, in order to maintain close fellowship with God.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#438428 May 7, 2013
who="Regina"
No, because they all come from Christ. All you have to do is obey Him and submit yourself to His will, KM. Then you won't find it necessary to post snarky remarks to those in His church.

**********

Where do YOUR snarky remarks come from???

KayMarie
youtube

AOL

#438429 May 7, 2013
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100% PROOF Pope Francis is ANTICHRIST_______



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“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#438430 May 7, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:

Did Jesus give them the power of telepathy?
I guess St. James should've checked with you before telling us to confess to one another.

**********

The question was not whether we should confess to one another. It was about having to confess to a priest.

KayMarie
LTM

Marathon, Canada

#438431 May 7, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
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From you perspective, which part of what the Muslims preach is truth and which part is lies?
Will they be saved if they don't believe in Jesus as the one and only savior?
SALVATION IS THROUGH JESUS CHRIST NO OTHER.
MUSLIMS WILL NOT BE SAVED, THEY BELIEVE IN MAHUMMED

MUSLIM'S god allah. "IS NOT THE GOD OF THE BORN AGAIN IN CHRIST JESUS"


“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#438432 May 7, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
<quoted text>
St. John said if we confess, God forgives. He didn't say confess to God alone and not to each other.
God has allowed the priest and the Church to minister this reconciliation.
We don't get to ignore the biblical requirement to confess our sins to one another.
God never said that we had to confess our sins to a priest and if you say he did you lie on God.

John wrote ...

Jn 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

Priest operated under the Levitical Law There are no priest under grace...

Jesus is the only one that is alluded to as our priest under grace..

~~~~

Heb_3:1 Wherefore, holy brethren, partakers of the heavenly calling, consider the Apostle and High Priest of our profession, Christ Jesus;


Eph 4:13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:

Eph 4:14 That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive;

Eph 4:15 But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ:

UNDER GRACE
THERE IS THE FIVE FOLD MINISTRIES OF THE CHURCH...

Eph 4:7 But unto every one of us is given grace according to the measure of the gift of Christ.

Eph 4:8 Wherefore he saith, When he ascended up on high, he led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men.

Eph 4:9 (Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also descended first into the lower parts of the earth?

Eph 4:10 He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things.)

Eph 4:11 And he gave

some, apostles; and

some, prophets; and

some, evangelists; and

some, pastors and teachers;

Eph 4:12

For the perfecting of the saints,

for the work of the ministry,

for the edifying of the body of Christ:

Eph 2:19 Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God;

Eph 2:20 ==> And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone; <==

Eph 2:21 In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord:

Eph 2:22 In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit.

YOUR IMAGINATIONS, FABLES, AND INVENTIONS NEVER CEASE TO AMAZE ME...
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#438433 May 7, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
who="Anthony MN"
No, issue was you inserting "HIM" into 1 John 1:9. Adding to scripture is a no-no Kay.
**********
I used (Him) in parenthesis to clarify who was doing the forgiving and cleansing.
You inferred that a priest had to be involved, which was truly adding to the Word.
KayMarie
Well Kay, I hope it's your infirmities causing you to now misrepresent what you wrote; Here is your post without parentheses:

KayMarie:
Neither.
I mean that I do not willfully sin. I live a moral life. I want to be like Him, and to be pleasing to Him. If I...or anyone else should do otherwise, they do not know Him.
However, we are flesh, and behave in sinful ways at times. Pouty, angry, vengeful reactions are not good. But John says that, "If we confess our sins TO HIM, He is faithful and just to FORGIVE US our sin, AND to CLEANSE us from all unrighteousness."

Serious question; Do protestants always add "HIM" to this verse in order to avoid the other biblical verse telling us to confess to one another?

Since: Sep 09

Williams Lake, Canada

#438434 May 7, 2013
LTM wrote:
<quoted text>
SALVATION IS THROUGH JESUS CHRIST NO OTHER.
MUSLIMS WILL NOT BE SAVED, THEY BELIEVE IN MAHUMMED
MUSLIM'S god allah. "IS NOT THE GOD OF THE BORN AGAIN IN CHRIST JESUS"
Muslims know nothing other than how they were raised to believe ... and yet you believe they deserve to be punished for not believing your way?

What a sick religion of which you are proud.

Since: Sep 09

Williams Lake, Canada

#438435 May 7, 2013
Ann coulter believes that Christians are perfected Jews.

Arrogance thrives on itself.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#438436 May 7, 2013
who="Anthony MN"
Well Kay, I hope it's your infirmities causing you to now misrepresent what you wrote; Here is your post without parentheses:
KayMarie:
Neither.
I mean that I do not willfully sin. I live a moral life. I want to be like Him, and to be pleasing to Him. If I...or anyone else should do otherwise, they do not know Him.
However, we are flesh, and behave in sinful ways at times. Pouty, angry, vengeful reactions are not good. But John says that, "If we confess our sins TO HIM, He is faithful and just to FORGIVE US our sin, AND to CLEANSE us from all unrighteousness."
Serious question; Do protestants always add "HIM" to this verse in order to avoid the other biblical verse telling us to confess to one another?

**********

Anthony, it amazes me that anyone professing to be 'Christian' would stoop to infer that anyone is suffering BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T AGREE with them.

So, I only thought I used parenthesis...but my capital letters indicate that that was my intent.

I did not say that we were not to confess our sins TO ONE ANOTHER, the Bible plainly calls for it. It does not say that we are to confess to someone who is considered to be on a plain higher than we are...especially when that one may have just molested a child. What authority could they possibly have over anyone?

KayMarie
Regina

Lakewood, NJ

#438437 May 7, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
If they excommunicate them, why do the they have therapy sessions for women of the Catholic faith after they have abortions?
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>
Catholic Diocese of Alberta
Project Rachel is a ministry of reconciliation and healing for people of all ages who are suffering distress from a past abortion experience.
http://www.calgarydiocese.ca/life-a-family-re...
Some excommunications can be lifted by a priest in confession. This is one of them.

Project Rachel is a wonderful ministry, truly a God send to those suffering the effects of abortion. It is for women (and men) of all faiths, or no faith. While it is highly therapeutic, it isn't "therapy" as such.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#438438 May 7, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
<quoted text>
Well Kay, I hope it's your infirmities causing you to now misrepresent what you wrote; Here is your post without parentheses:
KayMarie:
Neither.
I mean that I do not willfully sin. I live a moral life. I want to be like Him, and to be pleasing to Him. If I...or anyone else should do otherwise, they do not know Him.
However, we are flesh, and behave in sinful ways at times. Pouty, angry, vengeful reactions are not good. But John says that, "If we confess our sins TO HIM, He is faithful and just to FORGIVE US our sin, AND to CLEANSE us from all unrighteousness."
Serious question; Do protestants always add "HIM" to this verse in order to avoid the other biblical verse telling us to confess to one another?
~~~

WHY DO YOU LIE ON GOD...

James 5:16

(DRB) Confess therefore your sins one to another: and pray one for another, that you may be saved. For the continual prayer of a just man availeth much.

(Geneva) Acknowledge your faultes one to another, and pray one for another, that ye may be healed: for the prayer of a righteous man auaileth much, if it be feruent.

(KJV) Confess your faults one to another, and pray one for another, that ye may be healed. The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much.

(KJV+) ConfessG1843 your faultsG3900 one to another,G240 andG2532 prayG2172 one for another,G240 G5228 thatG3704 ye may be healed.G2390 The effectual ferventG1754 prayerG1162 of a righteous manG1342 availethG2480 much.G4183

(Vulgate) confitemini ergo alterutrum peccata vestra et orate pro invicem ut salvemini multum enim valet deprecatio iusti adsidua

THERE IS NO PLACE HERE WHERE IT SAY THAT WE HAVE TO CONFESS OUR SINS/FAULTS TO A PRIEST..

IT SAYS 'one to another."

the position of priest went out.... when GRACE WAS ESTABLISHED...

WE DO NOT OPERATE UNDER THE LAWS OF THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH NOR DO WE BOW TO IT'S CONTINUATION OF THE NEW LAWS THEY HAVE SET UP...

GOD DID NOT REPLACE THE LAW'S OF MOSES WITH THE LAWS OF A MONOPO;IZING RELIGIOUS SYSTEM IN ROME...
HE ESTABLISHED GRACE...GOD'S UNMERITATED FAVOR THAT HE GRANTED TO US WHEN HE

===>Isaiah 53:6

(DRB) All we like sheep have gone astray, every one hath turned aside into his own way: and
==>the Lord hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.<===

(Geneva) All we like sheepe haue gone astraye: wee haue turned euery one to his owne way, and
===>the Lord hath layed vpon him the iniquitie of vs all. <===

(KJV) All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and
===> the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all. <===

READ THE TRUTH AGAIN AGAIN...

Isaiah 53:6

(DRB) All we like sheep have gone astray, every one hath turned aside into his own way: and the Lord hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.

(Geneva) All we like sheepe haue gone astraye: wee haue turned euery one to his owne way, and the Lord hath layed vpon him the iniquitie of vs all.

(KJV) All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.

(Vulgate) omnes nos quasi oves erravimus unusquisque in viam suam declinavit et Dominus posuit in eo iniquitatem omnium nostrum
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#438439 May 7, 2013
chuck wrote:
<quoted text>
I can't find the word confession either in John 20:23
So? I can't find "confess to God only" anywhere in the bible.

Your two main objections are;

"men" can't forgive sins because they're sinners. You're wrong according to Jesus.

Confess to God, not to men. You're wrong according to Jesus's disciple John.

Try another angle, I know you're good at that.
Regina

Lakewood, NJ

#438440 May 7, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
who="Regina"
No, because they all come from Christ. All you have to do is obey Him and submit yourself to His will, KM. Then you won't find it necessary to post snarky remarks to those in His church.
**********
Where do YOUR snarky remarks come from???
KayMarie
Still at it, are you?

What a shame.

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