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“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#437319 May 3, 2013
who="June VanDerMark"
That word salvation is all about your greed to perceive your self as "special."
If you believed that YOU were going to be rejected by the supposed god, no doubt you would reject your own religion.
Yet you want me to believe that if I join your religion, you and I will attain salvation and other "evil" people will burn in hell.
I find your belief repulsive and exceedingly self-serving ... at the expense of others.
NO THANK YOU!

**********

You don't understand. God, Who is our Father, rejects NO ONE. He has made a way that the worst of us might be redeemed. We can reject Him, He does not reject us.

Jesus said that Hell was prepared for the devil. If any humans wind up there, it will be because they refused Truth (Jesus) and Love (God IS love).

We are ALL special because He created us.

You infer that you are better (smarter) than us 'religious' folk. Upon what do you base that worth...it is what is called
'self-righteousness'. Are you really better than us because of your 'belief' in YOURSELF?

Think about that one. At least our worth is not based upon feeling that we are smarter than everyone else. Our value is based upon the GIFT of righteousness from One Who IS righteousness. And even when we fail, He forgives us and cleans us up again.(No, we don't know it all; that is why we depend on HIS love and wisdom to 'save' us.)

KayMarie

Since: Sep 09

Terrace, Canada

#437320 May 3, 2013
All the theologians had to say was "This is a holy, just war, so God wants you to kill the enemy of God" ... and the people had complete faith that the "god" wanted them to kill other humans.

One just has to study the history of religion to observe how ignorant and arrogant are humans.

No doubt many read the following words and picked up their weapons of mass destruction to do the bidding of the "god" ... not thinking past the end of their noses that men with hate in their hearts and brains wrote those words.
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >

Any person who curseth his mother or father, must be killed.(Leviticus 20:9)

If a man cheats on his wife, or vise versa, both the man and the woman must die.(Leviticus 20:10).

If a man sleeps with his father's wife... both him and his father's wife is to be put to death.(Leviticus 20:11)

If a man sleeps with his wife and her mother they are all to be burnt to death.(Leviticus 20:14)

If a man or woman has sex with an animal, both human and animal must be killed.(Leviticus 20:15-16).

If a man has sex with a woman on her period, they are both to be "cut off from their people" (Leviticus 20:18)

Psychics, wizards, and so on are to be stoned to death.(Leviticus 20:27)

If a priest's daughter is a whore, she is to be burnt at the stake.(Leviticus 21:9)

People who have flat noses, or is blind or lame, cannot go to an altar of God (Leviticus 21:17-18)

Anyone who curses or blasphemes God, should be stoned to death by the community.(Leviticus 24:14-16)

Since: Sep 09

Terrace, Canada

#437321 May 3, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
who="June VanDerMark"
You don't understand. God, Who is our Father, rejects NO ONE.
Don't be so stupid. Your own religion teaches the opposite.

For instance ... the wicked evil people are not loved by "god."

All that supposed love is for ever-so-holy YOU, as you suck it to yourself, as does a baby nursing on a bottle of milk.

You fool!!!

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#437322 May 3, 2013
who="June VanDerMark" Not once by anyone in my childhood was I given the impression that I could ask if it was possible that a god didn't exist.
My parents were very kind to me, but I knew that they both put all their faith in the idea that the universe was indeed created.
I never thought to even entertain the idea that it was just possible the universe never had a beginning, but rather always existed.
Such was the religious culture in which I was raised.
Now that I am out of religion, I can ask those questions, knowing that, and being comfortable with, the idea that I don't know the answers.
What a relief.

**********

And what was the source of an eternal universe? Where does it end? Most important: WHAT KEEPS IT WORKING?

KayMarie

Since: Sep 09

Terrace, Canada

#437323 May 3, 2013
Just sayin wrote:
<quoted text>
Did not Jesus appear to the disciples after His Resurrection and eat with them? Did not Thomas put his fingers into His side? Hard to do if Jesus no longer had a body.
According to believers "Jesus" appeared in a river in Japan, in home-made pizza, in mirrors, in heaven (near death experiences) in Catholic confessionals, in linoleum, in the bark of a tree, and anywhere else imagination chose to travel.

Since: Sep 09

Terrace, Canada

#437324 May 3, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
And what was the source of an eternal universe? Where does it end? Most important: WHAT KEEPS IT WORKING?
KayMarie
I don't know, and after all of your endless preaching ... neither do you.

Since: Sep 09

Terrace, Canada

#437325 May 3, 2013
From my perception electrical energy keeps the universe functioning. Other than that, I am in the dark concerning even perception of answers.

I don't have any.

Since: Sep 09

Terrace, Canada

#437326 May 3, 2013
We can discuss the big-bang theory, or the theory that the universe was created by an all-knowing deity, or the theory that the universe always existed ... but the fact is ... we don't know ... period.

Since: Sep 09

Terrace, Canada

#437327 May 3, 2013
Note the word gods, as in plural.
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>

Religion

"respect for what is sacred, reverence for the gods,"
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>

Religion

To hold, therefore, that there is no difference in matters of religion between forms that are unlike each other, and even contrary to each other, most clearly leads in the end to the rejection of all religion in both theory and practice. And this is the same thing as atheism, however it may differ from it in name.[Pope Leo XIII, Immortale Dei, 1885]

http://www.etymonline.com/index.php...
Dan

Omaha, NE

#437328 May 3, 2013
Just sayin wrote:
<quoted text>
No. You are wrong. Catholics believe Christ's sacrifice was once and for all. When Catholics attend Mass they are entering again into this ever present Sacrifice. It is the people who come and go into and out of this moment, not the people repeating the Sacrifice.
Hopefully you are imaginative enough to get the picture.
Don't count on it.

God being out of time is a stretch for them.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#437329 May 3, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
who="June VanDerMark"
Why not ... when your "god" commits abortions. The proof of god's murder in the womb is when fetuses come out of the as dead babies???
He taught women that abortion was a holy cause. What a dirty trick for a god to play on expectant parents.
tongue-in-cheek
**********
And where does God approve abortion?
KM
Where does he approve, only the texts you accept?

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#437330 May 3, 2013
Dan wrote:
<quoted text>
Abundantly true.
Please cite evidence to the contrary.
In all fairness - please cite the citation that it shows it is true.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#437331 May 3, 2013
Ella wrote:
<quoted text>
The body of believers is the church!
Which body of believers? There are so many sects.
Dan

Omaha, NE

#437332 May 3, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
Theologians have taught the most horrible dogmas and got away with it ... just because people were impressed by the word "theologian."
A short while back, you opined that people weren't really evil, rather victims of trauma.

Now, you seem disposed to paint theologians as bad people.

Which way is the wind blowing this particular minute, June?
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#437333 May 3, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
090
<quoted text>
A. None of the sources on which my post is based on, even hint of the term "Catholic" or "catholic"...because there were none!!!!
B. If there is writing at 110 that uses the term catholic, why did it take that long to come up with the term, when it is erroneously claimed it "made the scene" when Christ said "I will build my church"??
B. Show me Scripture that refers to these churches, referred to in Revelation, as Catholic denominations....which would show a fallible Bible!!!!
Quote:
Unto the angel of the church of Ephesus write;
And unto the angel of the church in Smyrna write
And to the angel of the church in Pergamos write;
And unto the angel of the church in Thyatira write
And unto the angel of the church in Sardis write
And to the angel of the church in Philadelphia write;
And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write
During these 300 to 400 years there were no Christian denominations..such as the RCC....all that was, as the Bible teaches, were Christians....
The first denomination (Catholic) was put together by the emperor some 300 to 400 years after Christ made His declaration...its foundation was paganism....not Peter!!!!!...
A. Cite your sources.

B. "Catholic" means universal. When Christ said "build His Church", it meant He wanted them to go out and preach to "all nations", to build it up to be the "universal Church". By the time of St. Ignatius's writing, the apostles had accomplished much of this "all nation preaching" and the term Catholic became the name of His Church.

B.(?) The Church at Rome is mentioned specifically by St. Paul. The Catholic Church is not a denomination.

"The first denomination (Catholic) was put together by the emperor some 300 to 400 years after Christ made His declaration...its foundation was paganism....not Peter!!!!!.."

Wrong. The first mention of the Catholic Church is by St. Ignatius writing in AD 110. He used the name in a manner which suggests it was already well known. The foundation of the Catholic Church is Jesus. He told St. Peter he was the rock on which He will build His Church and appointed him as it's earthly leader (see the bible). Sts. Peter and Paul founded the Church at Rome and were both martyred there. St. Paul says the faith of the Church at Rome is renowned throughout the whole world.

Since: Sep 09

Terrace, Canada

#437334 May 3, 2013
The pope was correct. I reject all religion, "including" his religion, and that means that I am an Atheist.

He rejected all other religion but his own, so he was certain that he was not an Atheist, and he was correct BUT he was not fair in allowing others to have their own opinions. He demanded that to be saved, all people must be of the Catholic faith.

The pope was not an Atheist ... but was he holy, or was he addicted to a dire need of controlling others to follow his own will?
Just sayin

Antioch, TN

#437335 May 3, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
According to believers "Jesus" appeared in a river in Japan, in home-made pizza, in mirrors, in heaven (near death experiences) in Catholic confessionals, in linoleum, in the bark of a tree, and anywhere else imagination chose to travel.
Don't forget the grilled cheese.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#437336 May 3, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
All the theologians had to say was "This is a holy, just war, so God wants you to kill the enemy of God" ... and the people had complete faith that the "god" wanted them to kill other humans.
One just has to study the history of religion to observe how ignorant and arrogant are humans.
No doubt many read the following words and picked up their weapons of mass destruction to do the bidding of the "god" ... not thinking past the end of their noses that men with hate in their hearts and brains wrote those words.
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >
Any person who curseth his mother or father, must be killed.(Leviticus 20:9)
If a man cheats on his wife, or vise versa, both the man and the woman must die.(Leviticus 20:10).
If a man sleeps with his father's wife... both him and his father's wife is to be put to death.(Leviticus 20:11)
If a man sleeps with his wife and her mother they are all to be burnt to death.(Leviticus 20:14)
If a man or woman has sex with an animal, both human and animal must be killed.(Leviticus 20:15-16).
If a man has sex with a woman on her period, they are both to be "cut off from their people" (Leviticus 20:18)
Psychics, wizards, and so on are to be stoned to death.(Leviticus 20:27)
If a priest's daughter is a whore, she is to be burnt at the stake.(Leviticus 21:9)
People who have flat noses, or is blind or lame, cannot go to an altar of God (Leviticus 21:17-18)
Anyone who curses or blasphemes God, should be stoned to death by the community.(Leviticus 24:14-16)
The supposed "truth" that many so-called "Christians" won't accept - yet it is in their "the whole Bible is truthful" responses.

Hmmmmm...something sounds spurious.
a. those who say the "Bible is truth" are lying and refuse to be honest
b. these "laws" are still in effect, but not one individual in today's society acknowledges them - thus making them invalid. Again, the honesty within an individual needs to acknowledge that these "laws: were only valid for a different time period, and have no relevance today. Invalid.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#437337 May 3, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
who="June VanDerMark" Not once by anyone in my childhood was I given the impression that I could ask if it was possible that a god didn't exist.
My parents were very kind to me, but I knew that they both put all their faith in the idea that the universe was indeed created.
I never thought to even entertain the idea that it was just possible the universe never had a beginning, but rather always existed.
Such was the religious culture in which I was raised.
Now that I am out of religion, I can ask those questions, knowing that, and being comfortable with, the idea that I don't know the answers.
What a relief.
**********
And what was the source of an eternal universe? Where does it end? Most important: WHAT KEEPS IT WORKING?
KayMarie
How do these questions apply to the topic?

Please try to stay focussed.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#437338 May 3, 2013
who="June VanDerMark" All the theologians had to say was "This is a holy, just war, so God wants you to kill the enemy of God" ... and the people had complete faith that the "god" wanted them to kill other humans.
One just has to study the history of religion to observe how ignorant and arrogant are humans.
No doubt many read the following words and picked up their weapons of mass destruction to do the bidding of the "god" ... not thinking past the end of their noses that men with hate in their hearts and brains wrote those words.
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >
Any person who curseth his mother or father, must be killed.(Leviticus 20:9)
If a man cheats on his wife, or vise versa, both the man and the woman must die.(Leviticus 20:10).
If a man sleeps with his father's wife... both him and his father's wife is to be put to death.(Leviticus 20:11)
If a man sleeps with his wife and her mother they are all to be burnt to death.(Leviticus 20:14)
If a man or woman has sex with an animal, both human and animal must be killed.(Leviticus 20:15-16).
If a man has sex with a woman on her period, they are both to be "cut off from their people" (Leviticus 20:18)
Psychics, wizards, and so on are to be stoned to death.(Leviticus 20:27)
If a priest's daughter is a whore, she is to be burnt at the stake.(Leviticus 21:9)
People who have flat noses, or is blind or lame, cannot go to an altar of God (Leviticus 21:17-18)
Anyone who curses or blasphemes God, should be stoned to death by the community.(Leviticus 24:14-16)

**********
You need to read ALL of the Bible before you condemn it. The O.T, which contains all of those examples, was before Jesus. The people were involved in demonic practices...even burning their babies in a furnace called Molech.
When Jesus was confronted by those who wished to stone an adulterous woman, He confronted them with truth. "Yes," her actions condemned her...but JESUS did not condemn her, and he let the accusers know that NONE OF THEM WERE FIT TO ADMINISTER THE PUNISHMENT.

But He did something else. He commanded the woman to stop her sinning.

Death IS the wages of sin. Jesus is come that we might have life.

Which one will you choose?

KayMarie

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