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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

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The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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Religion - A Delusion

Titusville, FL

#436746 May 1, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
Do you believe that a creator would want you to be a representative of moral behavior?
Moral behavior? Spoil sport! Since when has that been a priority?

That would be rational in view of Jesus' teachings, but this is a delusion. No need for rational thought.

"Reason should be destroyed in all Christians." Martin Luther

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#436747 May 1, 2013
who="Anthony MN"
Matt. 26:27,29; Mark 14:23,25; Luke 22:17-18; 1 Cor. 11:25-27 - Jesus instituted the Eucharist using wine and commanded us to "do this in remembrance of me." We know that Jesus instituted the Eucharist at the Jewish seder meal, which required the use of wine. Yet some Protestant churches forbid drinking wine. Such a prohibition is not based on the Scriptures.
Luke 7:33-34 - God the Son drank wine and was accused of being a drunk. Are those Protestant churches that forbid the drinking of wine doing the same?
John 2:1-11 - Jesus' first miracle was turning water into wine which was drunk at the wedding at Cana. Wine is a symbol of the life of the Church, in both the Eucharist and, here, the sanctification of the sacrament of marriage. Verse 10 also indicates that the people drank enough wine at the feast to the point that they might not have recognized good wine from bad wine. Yet Jesus creates for them more wine to drink.
http://www.scripturecatholic.com/

**********

Jesus was accused of being a 'wine-bibber', not a drunk. Wine is also called 'fruit of the vine'...juice.

When He made the wine for the wedding, do you suppose that it was in a state of decay? Or that the wedding guests got drunk?

Even if the wine was fermented, Jewish table wine is only 3 or 4 percent alcohol...less than your vinegar.

"Wine is a mocker, strong drink is raging, and WHOSOEVER IS DECEIVED BY IT IS NOT WISE." Solomon said that, and Jesus called him the wisest man ever.

KayMarie
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#436748 May 1, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
who="Anthony MN"
I don't know any of the details and neither do you. But you assume it's the Church's fault. I hope you don't go to your grave with all that hatred and resentment.
**********
I have neither hatred nor resentment.
No details would make a difference here. A family was broken up. The man was guilty, and those who told him that he was OK are equally guilty.
KayMarie
The Church makes a determination as to whether the marriage was valid. Period. The shennaigans by one or both of the parties which resulted in the divorce are merely a symptom.

But again, you are making a judgement based on heresay/gossip and one woman's statement on the internet as to the guilt of the man AND, very tellingly, that someone in the Church told him it was ok.

I'm safe in assuming that you would do this because you harbor hatred and resentment and a presumption of guilt for the Catholic Church.
Religion - A Delusion

Titusville, FL

#436749 May 1, 2013
waaasssuuup wrote:
<quoted text>
June June June....you keep for getting one GIGANTIC detail:
God came to earth in the Person of Jesus the Christ!
if He didn't, then you may have an agrument, but since He did, YOU ARE ACCOUNTABLE!
Prove it and millions of $$$ in reward money are yours.

June rejects all of man's gods, because none has left any physical evidence or proof.

You reject all of man's gods - except one. But you have no evidence or proof of this one either.

In all probability, this god was drilled into you since early childhood. Your god is based on where you were born and the culture in which you were raised.

This god is as imaginary as all other gods in human history. No spirit is going to hurt you if you dare to even think about this fact.

The reward money will still be there tomorrow.
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#436750 May 1, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
who="Anthony MN"
We haven't heard your ex-husband's side of the story, so we should take what you say with a grain of salt.
If he and his new mate decided to leave the Church because of the abuse scandal, it's probably for the best. People who think it's a problem only in the Catholic Church and ignore that it happens more often in protestnt circles are unrealistic and not serious about their faith anyway.
*********
What difference would 'his side of the story' make? He left his wife and family for another woman. And the 'church' made it legal.
Actually, no one here has said that abuse is only in the CC. What we've been saying is that Catholics cover up the mess, and loudly declare that it happens more frequently in the Protestant churches.
If Church members began a loud protest, things would change in a hurry.
KayMarie
What difference does it make to hear his side of the story? None, if you already hate and resent the Catholic Church and have no interest in finding out the truth of the matter. You don't know this lady from Adam and she comes on the board making unverifiable accusations and it takes seconds for you to jump to her defense and blame the Catholic Church.

And my dear woman, there's lots of cover up in protestant circles as well, but it's ALWAYS the protestants who bring up the abuse scandal in the Catholic Church.

Religion - A Delusion

Titusville, FL

#436751 May 1, 2013
The god that exists in your mind is most likely the same god that was drilled into you since early childhood.

Why not ask yourself -- why would the most intelligent being in the Universe play favorites based where you were born?

Why not? Fear.
Human Being

Ville Platte, LA

#436752 May 1, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
You were the one that stated in a haughty affirmative manner that it doesn't happen in Protestant churches.
And it was the Protestants that targeted Catholics as the main ones to cover up the abuses ... not the other way around.
It took the spotlight off the Protestants ... for the first while. But not any more.
June:

Do Unto Others.

“Do unto other people
As you’d have done to you”
A phrase we take for granted
And yet, so very true

For he who causes others pain
Through unkind word or deed
Has set the standard of the life
That he himself will lead

In days to come, we all will learn
The error of our ways
As each unkindness that we cause
Returns to us one day

Live your life with this in mind
And dust shall turn to gold
As every kindness that you give
Returns to you tenfold

Be kind.
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#436753 May 1, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
who="Anthony MN"
Matt. 26:27,29; Mark 14:23,25; Luke 22:17-18; 1 Cor. 11:25-27 - Jesus instituted the Eucharist using wine and commanded us to "do this in remembrance of me." We know that Jesus instituted the Eucharist at the Jewish seder meal, which required the use of wine. Yet some Protestant churches forbid drinking wine. Such a prohibition is not based on the Scriptures.
Luke 7:33-34 - God the Son drank wine and was accused of being a drunk. Are those Protestant churches that forbid the drinking of wine doing the same?
John 2:1-11 - Jesus' first miracle was turning water into wine which was drunk at the wedding at Cana. Wine is a symbol of the life of the Church, in both the Eucharist and, here, the sanctification of the sacrament of marriage. Verse 10 also indicates that the people drank enough wine at the feast to the point that they might not have recognized good wine from bad wine. Yet Jesus creates for them more wine to drink.
http://www.scripturecatholic.com/
**********
Jesus was accused of being a 'wine-bibber', not a drunk. Wine is also called 'fruit of the vine'...juice.
When He made the wine for the wedding, do you suppose that it was in a state of decay? Or that the wedding guests got drunk?
Even if the wine was fermented, Jewish table wine is only 3 or 4 percent alcohol...less than your vinegar.
"Wine is a mocker, strong drink is raging, and WHOSOEVER IS DECEIVED BY IT IS NOT WISE." Solomon said that, and Jesus called him the wisest man ever.
KayMarie
Nobody said anything about Him being a drunk. Drinking wine in moderation does not turn one into a "drunk". And they would have had no cause to accuse Jesus of being a wine-bibber had the "fruit of the vine" not been fermented.

Jesus drank alcoholic wine. He miraculously changed water into alcoholic wine. He gave His disciples alcoholic wine at the Last Supper.

The verbal gymnastics you teetotalers need to go through to avoid this truth is astounding.
Regina

Lakewood, NJ

#436754 May 1, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
<quoted text>
What difference does it make to hear his side of the story? None, if you already hate and resent the Catholic Church and have no interest in finding out the truth of the matter. You don't know this lady from Adam and she comes on the board making unverifiable accusations and it takes seconds for you to jump to her defense and blame the Catholic Church.
And my dear woman, there's lots of cover up in protestant circles as well, but it's ALWAYS the protestants who bring up the abuse scandal in the Catholic Church.
She said her husband was granted an annulment on the condition that he disown his children, which is a blatant lie, so why should anyone believe her about the rest of it? For all we know, "she" could be a "he" and there is no ex-husband or children or annulment....lol, it wouldn't be the first time someone posted an anti-Catholic fairy tale on this board. Of course, Kay is now her best friend.

Whatever happened to lying being a sin? Do they protest that too? It appears so.
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#436755 May 1, 2013
Regina wrote:
<quoted text>
She said her husband was granted an annulment on the condition that he disown his children, which is a blatant lie, so why should anyone believe her about the rest of it? For all we know, "she" could be a "he" and there is no ex-husband or children or annulment....lol, it wouldn't be the first time someone posted an anti-Catholic fairy tale on this board. Of course, Kay is now her best friend.
Whatever happened to lying being a sin? Do they protest that too? It appears so.
"disown his children"...I guess I didn't catch that part. These people are unbelieveable.
Religion - A Delusion

Titusville, FL

#436756 May 1, 2013
Human Being wrote:
<quoted text>
June:
Do Unto Others.
“Do unto other people
As you’d have done to you”
A phrase we take for granted
And yet, so very true
For he who causes others pain
Through unkind word or deed
Has set the standard of the life
That he himself will lead
In days to come, we all will learn
The error of our ways
As each unkindness that we cause
Returns to us one day
Live your life with this in mind
And dust shall turn to gold
As every kindness that you give
Returns to you tenfold
Be kind.
Excellent. Thank you.

Once the magic and mysticism are removed, we can see the wisdom and morality.
Just sayin

Nashville, TN

#436757 May 1, 2013
Religion - A Delusion wrote:
<quoted text>
Moral behavior? Spoil sport! Since when has that been a priority?
That would be rational in view of Jesus' teachings, but this is a delusion. No need for rational thought.
"Reason should be destroyed in all Christians." Martin Luther
Luther, the father of protestantism. Like father, like son.

“Happy 2016!!”

Since: Apr 08

Saint Teresa Pray 4 Us.

#436758 May 1, 2013
Ella wrote:
<quoted text>
When was the last time you read your bible? Believer's were first called "Christians" in Antioch. And why? Because the were followers of the Christ, not the Catholic church.
Catholics read and hear The Word at Mass daily/weekly !!!!!!


FYI
"he Catholic Bible far outsells all other Christian Bibles worldwide. In fact, it has

always been thus. The very first Christian Bible

was produced by the Catholic Church – compiled by

Catholic scholars of the 2nd and 3rd century and

approved for general Christian use by the Catholic

Councils of Hippo (393) and Carthage (397). The very first printed Bible was produced under the auspices of the Catholic Church – printed by the Catholic inventor of the printing press, Johannes Gutenberg. And the very first Bible with chapters and numbered verses was produced by the Catholic Church – the work of Stephen Langton, Cardinal Archbishop of Canterbury. It was this perennial Catholic devotion to the Bible which prompted

Martin Luther – who certainly cannot be accused of Catholic favoritism – to write in his

Commentary on St. John: "We are compelled to concede to the Papists that they have the

Word of God, that we received it from them, and that without them we should have no

knowledge of it at all."

“Happy 2016!!”

Since: Apr 08

Saint Teresa Pray 4 Us.

#436759 May 1, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
who="Anthony MN"
Correct me if I'm wrong, but pentecostals accept as valid the re-marriage of a divorced person. Your denomination says that adultery or abandonment by an unbelieving spouse is grounds for divorce and re-marriage.
The Catholic Church does not allow "re-marriage" as it is contrary to Christ's teaching.
**********
The Catholic site I quoted said that both parties are free to marry after an annulment. The persons that I know who received an annulment were remarried to Catholics IN the CC.
Jesus said that divorce and remarriage was wrong, except when a spouse was guilty of fornication.
Our culture is rapidly changing, and it is detrimental to the church, but generally Pentecostals do not accept divorce. We've not had to deal with it, and have never been party to such action.
KayMarie
This is why annulment is granted, if the ex is guilty of fornication/adultery ... its investigated and may take up to two years.

Actually the founder of your church was an adulterous and was a divorcée.
Aimee
http://www.usc.edu/libraries/archives/la/scan...

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#436760 May 1, 2013
061
confrinting with the word wrote:
who="Oxbow" 552
And....Scripture does not support the practice of issuing annulments. This is a man made thing...and, therefore is un Christian...
There is one circumstance in a marriage that allows for a divorce...Catholic have to ignore it so they can "annul" marriages, that accordding to them, never was!!!!!!!
Mt 19:9 And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.
*********
That verse should open some eyes. Marriage is not just a piece of paper.
KM
It hasn't yet....will not be....unless a change occurs:

According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear; unto this day.

“Happy 2016!!”

Since: Apr 08

Saint Teresa Pray 4 Us.

#436761 May 1, 2013
socci wrote:
<quoted text>
Christians follow the Bible -- this is why you are Catholic. Catholics are not Christian. According to the Bible Catholics are of the harlot false religion. Christians are the bride of Christ.
Bride of Christ - pure churh.
Harlot - false Church.
Jesus read from the books called the Law & Prophets every Sabbath. This is where the Jewish faith and doctrine came from. Then Jesus inspired the Apostles to write more, to record what happened with Jesus. John wrote numerous books including the message sent to him by Jesus, the book of Revelation.
1:1 "The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave to him, to show to his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel to his servant John:"
The first Christians understood this well. We have 38,000 of their letters quoting the books they considered inspired. 300 years later your Roman Church came along and plays down the Bible with claims of papal authority, even the pope claiming to be 'vicar of christ'. You are in a sun cult. It is not biblical or christian. The Bible tells us the entire roman system will be thrown into the lake of fire with all who support it having the 'mark of the beast' and asks that all flee and come out of her, my people.
"Now I tell you before it come, that, when it is come to pass, you may believe that I am he." (John 13:19)
“There are some things in them (Epistles of St. Paul) hard to understand, which the ignorant and unstable twist to their own destruction, as they do the other
Scriptures.”
2 Peter 3:16

You wouldn’t have a Bible if it were not for the first Christians called Catholics!!

The Bible is a Catholic Book
http://www.cegguam.org/TalksAndHomilies/sray/...

"Christ did not say, "Sit down and write Bibles and scatter them over the earth, and let

every man read his Bible and judge for himself." If Christ had said that, there would never

have been a Christianity on the earth at all, but a Babylon and confusion instead, and

never ONE Church, the union of ONE body. Hence, Christ never said to His Apostles, "Go and write Bibles and distribute them, and let everyone judge for himself." That

injunction was reserved for the Sixteenth Century, and we have seen the result of it. Ever

since the Sixteenth Century there have been springing up religion upon religion, and churches upon churches, all fighting and quarreling with one another, and all because of the private interpretation of the Bible.

Christ sent His Apostles with authority to teach all nations, and never gave them any

command of writing the Bible. And the Apostles went forth and preached everywhere,

and planted the Church of God throughout the earth, but never thought of writing.”

“Happy 2016!!”

Since: Apr 08

Saint Teresa Pray 4 Us.

#436762 May 1, 2013
chuck wrote:
<quoted text>

<quoted text>
My niece receives her 1st communion in May. She is 7 and in the 2nd grade. So if you accept something you should be able to explain it as well...correct? My niece will be able to explain what the apostles taught?
I received my First Holy Communion at the same age. I understood all, is your niece ‘a slow learner‘?

We receive Christ in our heart, in the appearance of bread
and wine. As Jesus taught at the Last Supper.

John 6
Clay

Garden City, MI

#436763 May 1, 2013
StarC wrote:
<quoted text>
“There are some things in them (Epistles of St. Paul) hard to understand, which the ignorant and unstable twist to their own destruction, as they do the other
Scriptures.”
2 Peter 3:16
You wouldn’t have a Bible if it were not for the first Christians called Catholics!!
The Bible is a Catholic Book
http://www.cegguam.org/TalksAndHomilies/sray/...
"Christ did not say, "Sit down and write Bibles and scatter them over the earth, and let
every man read his Bible and judge for himself." If Christ had said that, there would never
have been a Christianity on the earth at all, but a Babylon and confusion instead, and
never ONE Church, the union of ONE body. Hence, Christ never said to His Apostles, "Go and write Bibles and distribute them, and let everyone judge for himself." That
injunction was reserved for the Sixteenth Century, and we have seen the result of it. Ever
since the Sixteenth Century there have been springing up religion upon religion, and churches upon churches, all fighting and quarreling with one another, and all because of the private interpretation of the Bible.
Christ sent His Apostles with authority to teach all nations, and never gave them any
command of writing the Bible. And the Apostles went forth and preached everywhere,
and planted the Church of God throughout the earth, but never thought of writing.”
Well said Star. Protestantland has really exploded in the last 75 yrs. The born again movement has spawned countless different sects.... eliminating Baptism; eliminating the Eucharist; eliminating Confession; undoing virtually everything that was taught by our Beloved Apostles.
They are hanging by a thread. God is infinite Love, and I think its this Love that keeps them slightly above water. But we can see the chaos that's ensued from generation to generation of these guys.
Hope California is treating you good. Its May and snowing in Minnesota. Sucks!
Preston

Athens, OH

#436764 May 1, 2013
StarC wrote:
<quoted text>
This is why annulment is granted, if the ex is guilty of fornication/adultery ... its investigated and may take up to two years.
Actually the founder of your church was an adulterous and was a divorcée.
Aimee
http://www.usc.edu/libraries/archives/la/scan...
why don't you get acting so stupid(or are you acting)? speaking in tongues was from the beginning on the day of Pentecost, so no modern day woman or man is responsible
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#436765 May 1, 2013
waaasssuuup wrote:
<quoted text>
um....EXCUSE ME, but did you say "human-created myths"???
you can't be serious, are you? what pray-tell should we categorize the THEORY of evolution as if not a human-created myth?!
better get your facts straight cuz when you drop your flesh, you'll be standing naked in spirit and you're gonna hafta account for what you believed and why!
Yes I did say human-created myths. Non-human animals don't create myths.

Evolution is a fact, not a theory. But within that milieu is the question of whether the universe had a beginning, or whether it always existed.

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