Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

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The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.
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Religion - A Delusion

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Human Being wrote:
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But can you prove what you are writing is the truth?
I just read of lot of circular reasoning, from you.
Not much room for a dialogue.
If you have evidence to the contrary, please provide.

Again.....

There is no evidence that will hold up in any court.(There have been court cases.) Nothing can be tested. Nothing can be measured. You can't show that prayer works.

It's called faith. It is not fact or science. It's an opinion.

There is millions of dollars in reward money waiting for your proof - if you have it.

If there was proof, then it would be called the science of God.

My proof is no one has claimed the reward.

Good luck on getting the reward.

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Human Being wrote:
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June VanDerMark:
Animals are conditioned by their surroundings.
Now maybe you could try to address the essence of my post.

Why would a god of love create non-human animals with fangs, claws and venom that he knew they would have to use in order to survive?

WHY?

If you stop defending the words of theologians and start to instead question their words, you will see the lies of ommission and the lies that stare you right in the face.

When preachers get stuck on how to answer sticky questions, they fall back on the lame excuse ... "The ways of god are beyond all human understanding."

They've pulled that "trick" many times on gullible followers who say "AHHHH YES ... PRAISE THE LORD FOR HIS MERCIES!"

Sickening stuff.
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Human Being wrote:
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Religion - A Delusion:
But can you prove what you are writing is the truth?
I just read of lot of circular reasoning, from you.
Not much room for a dialogue.
I stand by my post.

Stop being so ambiguous. Quoting my words, please point out exactly what you call circular reasoning.

You can't be specific, because you're defending a delusion.

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Human Being wrote:
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Since pride, avarice, and envy nearly destroyed humanity in the last century,
No where is their more pride than in theologians and preachers who tell fortunes and dare to charge money FOR their fortune-telling.

And you are on the same page ... VERY proud of supporting the fortune-tellers.

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No where is there more pride

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Muslims are tellers of fortune, and many Christians perceive the Muslims as liars.

Yet the Christians commit the same nonsense and perceive that their fortune telling is holy.

The stupidity of it all is startling.

“let's do this thang!”

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Religion - A Delusion wrote:
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95% of humanity is "pagan," e.g. they don't buy into your delusion. Many have their own, but not yours.
That has always been true throughout human history.
Today is no different.
History tells us that all of man's gods are imaginary.
"95% of humanity is "pagan," e.g. they don't buy into your delusion"

sadly, you may be right!: "broad is the path that leads to destruction and many there are that go that way..." Jesus

"History tells us that all of man's gods are imaginary"

LOL - if only you were an egyptian soldier following the jews through the parted red sea.....:-)
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Michael wrote:
All the catholics on this forum (including myself) X catholic, were instructed from childhood by roman catholic priests/bishops that we COULD NEVER receive the eucharist with terrible sins on our souls, yet the same clergy who sexually molested our children and the rest of the clergy who covered up these worst of sins gave themselves the eucharist at EVERY mass they said.
....just more HIPOCRICY!!
Who here really follows what their imaginary god supposedly says?

"Judge not.." -- but how many times do we get judged and condemned to Hell?

Jesus never means what he said, if the believers find it uncomfortable.

It's easy to ignore a delusion in such cases.

A priest can seduce an altar boy and an hour later, magically turn bread into a god's body.

And that's somehow OK with their god.

Delusional and sick.
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Religion - A Delusion wrote:
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Pedophilia, abortion, rape, exploitation are somehow the norm in non-Christian societies?
Where?
The absurdity knows no bounds.
FACT -- pedophilia, abortion, rape, and sexual exploitation are more prevalent in "Christian" societies such as Mexico and Brazil for example, than in more secular societies like Sweden.
So is the homicide rate.
Get real.
Religion- A Delusion:

As a general rule, society(Christian or not) finds pedophilia, abortion, rape, exploitation, as acceptable. Society is a co-operative effort, when unchecked by the enforcement of moral law, tends toward what (we) consider unacceptable living styles.

You have lived in a society in which you expect law to be upheld(perhaps) idealistically at least, when in fact, the decline of religion has demonstrated that pornography, abortion, exploitation, are commonplace now. Soon rape, pedophilia will return as a norm.

By the way, Mexico is not a society based on religion, it is one of the most anti-religous countries in the world. And Sweden in 2009 had about 9 million people, with 1 million reporting crimes again.

You are looking through a very rose set of glasses at the world.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_Sweden
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waaasssuuup wrote:
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"95% of humanity is "pagan," e.g. they don't buy into your delusion"
sadly, you may be right!: "broad is the path that leads to destruction and many there are that go that way..." Jesus
"History tells us that all of man's gods are imaginary"
LOL - if only you were an egyptian soldier following the jews through the parted red sea.....:-)
Interesting that no Egyptian soldier recorded that event for history.

No Egyptian historian wrote anything about that event.

No historian in any nearby society recorded that event either.

Nothing outside the Old Testament, much of which you now reject.

Your only evidence is faith in a Bronze Age religion, most of which your religion now rejects.

Say hello to reality. You wouldn't buy a car based on such so-called evidence. That's the reality.
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Human Being wrote:
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Religion- A Delusion:
As a general rule, society(Christian or not) finds pedophilia, abortion, rape, exploitation, as acceptable. Society is a co-operative effort, when unchecked by the enforcement of moral law, tends toward what (we) consider unacceptable living styles.
You have lived in a society in which you expect law to be upheld(perhaps) idealistically at least, when in fact, the decline of religion has demonstrated that pornography, abortion, exploitation, are commonplace now. Soon rape, pedophilia will return as a norm.
By the way, Mexico is not a society based on religion, it is one of the most anti-religous countries in the world. And Sweden in 2009 had about 9 million people, with 1 million reporting crimes again.
You are looking through a very rose set of glasses at the world.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_Sweden
Your spin makes no sense.

"Soon rape, pedophilia will return as a norm."

Again, like when and where?

Mexico is "anti-religious?" Is that why the Pope went there a few years back? 90% of the population say they are Christian, but you say no.

You can't spin fast enough. Your delusion is too absurd.
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Religion - A Delusion wrote:
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Good article...
Christian countries like others swept it under the rug for centuries.
"Child sexual abuse has gained public attention in the past few decades and has become one of the most high-profile crimes. Since the 1970s the sexual abuse of children and child molestation has increasingly been recognized as deeply damaging to children and thus unacceptable for society as a whole. While sexual use of children by adults has been present throughout history, it has only become the object of significant public attention in recent times"
So I suppose we can thank the Catholic church for such a long and obvious cover-up, that society was forced to act, because the immorality wasn't immediately recognised by the church.
The delusional gods said nothing, until the world media got involved.
Shame on the Catholic church.
Religion - A Delusion:

Cover-ups happen everywhere in all types of circumstances.

The more positive solution to the matter is to recognize that there is no difference between laity and clergy, both are human beings.

Some people have great difficulty in questioning authority, and recognize they are human beings.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

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Muslims are tellers of fortune, and many Christians perceive the Muslims as liars.
Yet the Christians commit the same nonsense and perceive that their fortune telling is holy.
The stupidity of it all is startling.
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1Co 1:18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness;

but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.

1Co 1:19 For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent.


1Co 1:20 Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world?

1Co 1:21 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.

Soon you will be brought face to face your foolishness...

Then you will have an eternity to rue the day that you despised and provoked Him...with your prattle.

He is merciful now with you.....But there is coming a day soon... when He will be your judge.

God don't believe in Atheist....

I expect you to respond to this post as you have all others...

But your ranting against God does not change God's... Word...

Act 13:41 Behold, ye despisers, and wonder, and perish: for I work a work in your days, a work which ye shall in no wise believe, though a man declare it unto you.

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Deu 32:35 To me belongeth vengeance, and recompence; their foot shall slide in due time: for the day of their calamity is at hand, and the things that shall come upon them make haste.

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Rom 3:3 For what if some did not believe? shall their unbelief make the faith of God without effect?

Rom 3:4 God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged.

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confrinting with the word wrote:
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1Co 1:18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness;
but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.
1Co 1:19 For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent.
1Co 1:20 Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world?
1Co 1:21 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.
Soon you will be brought face to face your foolishness...
Then you will have an eternity to rue the day that you despised and provoked Him...with your prattle.
He is merciful now with you.....But there is coming a day soon... when He will be your judge.
God don't believe in Atheist....
I expect you to respond to this post as you have all others...
But your ranting against God does not change God's... Word...
Act 13:41 Behold, ye despisers, and wonder, and perish: for I work a work in your days, a work which ye shall in no wise believe, though a man declare it unto you.
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Deu 32:35 To me belongeth vengeance, and recompence; their foot shall slide in due time: for the day of their calamity is at hand, and the things that shall come upon them make haste.
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Rom 3:3 For what if some did not believe? shall their unbelief make the faith of God without effect?
Rom 3:4 God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged.
Yet another forune teller.

The word theology means to study religions of the world. It doesn't mean to be a fortune teller and pretend that what you predict is based on truth.

The gypsies used crystal balls and you use words in a bible.

All groups of fortune tellers claim they can see the future.

From my perspective that was and IS a blatant lie.
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I will correct.
The Roman Catholic church gave the world the largest Institutional child sex cover-up in history.
As for the facts, I suggest the John Jay Report.
As for more facts, why don't you find out what a Vatican spokesperson said recently.
There is no excuse for a supposed institution of God pointing fingers at others as "just as bad."
Your god is imaginary.
Religion - A Delusion

Try Japan in WWII. Euphemistically called "comfort women".
Try India now, 1.2 million children exploited in prostitution. India and the rest of the world doesn't have a problem with it. Why?

It is not religions that preach to commit crimes. Its quite the opposite. It is when the "world" gets into the religion that people cause crime and cover-ups.
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Your spin makes no sense.
"Soon rape, pedophilia will return as a norm."
Again, like when and where?
Mexico is "anti-religious?" Is that why the Pope went there a few years back? 90% of the population say they are Christian, but you say no.
You can't spin fast enough. Your delusion is too absurd.
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Is Mexico run by Christians?
Is the U.S.?

Those with big money and power run countries, or desire it.

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It is not religions that preach to commit crimes.
Yes it IS. Religion teaches superiority in the idea "MY religion is right and yours is wrong." That is a crime put upon world conscience.

You support the idea that Catholic saints are worthy of excessive praise ... etc.

And as a promoter of that crime ... you are part and parcel of the problem. You don't perceive that humans are equal in worth. You put your Catholicism above all else, and that is the crime of divide and conquer that causes wars and all other sorts of horrible atrocities.

You are full of pride in your cult. You might not see that as causing crime ... but I DO.

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Pride by the Catholic hierarchy caused centuries of burning innocent people at the stake.

PRIDE in enforcing their own dogmas caused the crimes.
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342: Christian Emperors Constans and Contantinus create a law against samesex
marriages.

390: homosexuality is declared a crime in several Christian empires&#894; those found guilty are sentenced to be burnt alive in public.

http://hrsbstaff.ednet.ns.ca/cbarre/global%20...

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Thomas Jefferson was a Christian of such pride that he re-wrote parts of the new testament to publish "The Jefferson Bible."

The man was filled with Christian pride and promoted the following crime against innocent homosexuals.
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About.com Civil Liberies.

In 1779, Thomas Jefferson proposed a law that would mandate castration for gay men and mutilation of nose cartilage for gay women. But that's not the scary part. Here's the scary part: Jefferson was considered a liberal. At the time, the most common penalty on the books was death.

http://civilliberty.about.com/od/gendersexual ...

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Christians have always been tellers of fortune ... making their own fortunes all about bliss in a supposed afterlife and torment in the supposed afterlife for those who were not Christian.

That teaching of young children is a blatant crime, as it teaches them to grow up in the same spotlight of arrogance as their parents.

Crimes committed against world conscience are the most insidious crimes of all.

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