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Just sayin

Antioch, TN

#435332 Apr 25, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
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It's not funny that the theologians protected their selves from seeing that they were teaching lies in the quise of truth.
That is a curious statement coming from someone who doesn't even believe in truth.
Human Being

Elton, LA

#435333 Apr 25, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
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Resorting to pity when others are having problems such as health problems is very different than suggesting that someone is lonely and that is why that person spends so much time on a forum.
You know that, and I know that, so let's not play games.
I spend hours each day on threads of these forums because I was once under the spell of religion and am now free of such mental debris.
For those who are still bogged down in religion, I share my story of leaving religion behind and how that load was lifted off of me.
If the ones in religion don't want to leave, they won't and that is their right ... but I will do all in my power to give them the concept that they need not fear being penalized if they do decide to leave and join those of us who feel whole and at peace without the blight of religion bugging our psyches day in and day out.
June

I am glad for you being at peace.

So many of us are caught between truth and half-truths, and sorting them out, and believing having done so, have then grasped some ultimate truth.

And some may achieve finding greater truths.

I think it is not so much religion that is the problem, but the shortness of humanity living up to the virtues of religion, which drives them to do desperate things.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#435334 Apr 25, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
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Pity is another way of insulting those you believe are evil, as you stand on your holy pulpit and preach hollow words from your self-impressive godly position.
Silly people!
The Silly person is the one that refuses God's free gift of SALVATION...

ACTUALLY IT IS INSANITY...TO REFUSE THE OFFER THAT GOD HAS MADE AND PAID FOR HIM SELF.

I guess if it cost you an arm and a leg you would buy it....

It's just that your pride will not allow you to take hold of such an

offer that cost you nothing.

Question..

IF GOD DOES NOT EXIST ...WHY DO YOU FIGHT SO HARD AGAINST HIM.

WHY DO YOU RESIST ( what you claim to be) A NON EXISTENT ENTITY...

IF YOU HAVE AN ISSUE WITH GOD...WHY DON'T YOU TAKE IT UP WITH HIM ...INSTEAD OF GOSSIPING ABOUT HIM AND ATTEMPTING TO ATTACK THOSE THAT DO..

You are the one that is acting the fool...before all..Christians

and accomplishing nothing...

Like the woman in Maine.... that got stuck in the snow and spun her tires till they wore out and were destroyed...

~~~~~~

Psa_53:1 A Psalm of David. The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.

Corrupt are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

“let's do this thang!”

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#435335 Apr 25, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
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I wouldn't trust me to know truth, and so it follows that I sure wouldn't trust you to know truth either.
I sugggest you study the meaning of the word "god" in another context.
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>
From the book “Devious Derivations”… Popular Misconceptions and More than 1000 true origins of Common Word and Phrases … by Hugh Rawson.
god.
It should be of passing interest to women readers especially to know that god originally was of neuter gender, as in the Middle High German abgott, idol. The word became masculine following the conversion of the German tribes to Christianity.
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>
umm....thanks, but no thanks:)

“let's do this thang!”

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#435336 Apr 25, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
So if exorcisms are necessary for members of Christian congregations ... who would trust that churches are safe havens?
I've never heard of an Atheist being exorcised for demons.
I have however heard of Atheists having mental problems, as do all people in or out of religion.
i don't agree with exercising demons. i agree to keep them flabby and out-of-shape cuz they're easier to cast out that way;)
Regina

Long Branch, NJ

#435337 Apr 25, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
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I spend hours each day on threads of these forums because I was once under the spell of religion and am now free of such mental debris.
lol, Now that IS funny.

You can't stop talking about religion, it's a form of OCD for you. For someone who's compelled to post about it every two minutes on average, it's evident you're far from "free".

You should join a church. The preacher will come visit you. People will bring you casseroles and home baked cakes and things. They'll take you on outings to the dollar store. It'll be fun, you'll enjoy it. Give it a whirl!

Since: Sep 09

New Hazelton, Canada

#435338 Apr 25, 2013
I am thankful that when I was under the spell of religion I never used words from a bible to preach at others ... period.

I am thankful that I never used words from a bible to belittle the self-worth of homosexuals, but rather that I did all in my power to fight for gay rights.

I am thankful that I never used words from a bible to harshly judge women who had abortions, but rather studied real-life experiences of the women in the quest to understand the many reasons they do have abortions.

I am thankful that I now believe that we are all whole just as we are and that there is no need to go searching a supposed spirit realm for the better part of ourselves.

I am thankful for many things, but I am not, nor do I pretend to be thankful for all the suffering concerning human and non-human forms of life.

Why suffering exists is a mystery to me ... but I don't believe that a creator ever had a part in such a wretched plan.

I believe there simply has to be an explanation that makes sense, and I suggest it's best to wait.

Maybe we will one day know the answers, and maybe not.

Since: Sep 09

New Hazelton, Canada

#435339 Apr 25, 2013
waaasssuuup wrote:
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umm....thanks, but no thanks:)
You're welcome, and I wish you the best in your journey.

Since: Sep 09

New Hazelton, Canada

#435340 Apr 25, 2013
Human Being wrote:
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June
I am glad for you being at peace.
So many of us are caught between truth and half-truths, and sorting them out, and believing having done so, have then grasped some ultimate truth.
And some may achieve finding greater truths.
I think it is not so much religion that is the problem, but the shortness of humanity living up to the virtues of religion, which drives them to do desperate things.
What greater truth can there be than to be humble in the idea of not knowing supposed greater truths?

Since: Sep 09

New Hazelton, Canada

#435341 Apr 25, 2013
Preachers feign humility in the words they preach that no human can know the mind of god ... and then they carry on preaching about who will be saved and who will burn in hell ... and other nonsensical gibberish.

Double-talk is and always has been the religious game.
Just sayin

Antioch, TN

#435342 Apr 25, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
Gosh ..That's the thanks I get for believing that humans are of no more value than swamp rats, and are not as wise either.
:)
So sorry you feel that way about yourself. What happened, June?
Just sayin

Antioch, TN

#435343 Apr 25, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
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Resorting to pity when others are having problems such as health problems is very different than suggesting that someone is lonely and that is why that person spends so much time on a forum.
You know that, and I know that, so let's not play games.
I spend hours each day on threads of these forums because I was once under the spell of religion and am now free of such mental debris.
For those who are still bogged down in religion, I share my story of leaving religion behind and how that load was lifted off of me.
If the ones in religion don't want to leave, they won't and that is their right ... but I will do all in my power to give them the concept that they need not fear being penalized if they do decide to leave and join those of us who feel whole and at peace without the blight of religion bugging our psyches day in and day out.
Uh, June, I couldn't help but notice that you are still bogged down in religion and the "blight" of it is bugging your psyche day in and day out.

Since: Sep 09

New Hazelton, Canada

#435344 Apr 25, 2013
Since at least the second century Christian theologians have been scaring the whits out of believers with the "end of times" nonsense. Yet the same theologians preached that no one could know WHEN the time would come for the world to end.

Century after century devout believers prayed and prayed that they would be saved from "god's" wrath.

Little vulnerable children entertain nightmares about burning in the flames of hell. Child abuse again and again occurred and still occurs under the guise of freedom of religion.

Religion was the root of the trouble and nothing has changed.

Since: Sep 09

New Hazelton, Canada

#435345 Apr 25, 2013
I believe that many who were born gay, because of religion, committed suicide.

A grandmother shared her heart-breaking story on television. She wanted others to learn from what she believed was her mistake.

She told of her “previous” strict religious indoctrination, that if people were gay they would burn in hell in the hereafter.

When her grandson, whom she adored, came to her and told her he was gay, she was full of fear. She dragged him from one minister to another, who told him that if he did not change his ways, he would not be in heaven.

The grandson begged his grandmother over and over to not try to change him. He tried to convince her that he could not change who he was, but she was so filled with fear for his "eternal soul," she paid him no heed.

He took his own life.

She was sobbing with emotion, and said, that if she had it to do over again … just as he was, she would have accepted him. She said she was SO sorry!

What a tough lesson for that poor woman.

In my opinion, religion that teaches such skewed doctrine belongs in the garbage can with the rest of the slime.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#435346 Apr 25, 2013
Subject: WELCOME TO THE 21ST CENTURY!!!!!!!!!



Well, worth a ponder!





A CENTURY WHEN MORE IS LESS. CONFUSED ! THEN READ ON.



WELCOME TO THE 21st CENTURY!!!

*Our Phones ~ Wireless
*Cooking ~ Fireless
*Cars ~ Keyless
*Food ~ Fatless
*Tyres ~ Tubeless
*Dress ~Topless
*Youth ~ Jobless
*Leaders ~Shameless
*Relationships ~ Meaningless
*Attitude ~ Careless
*Wives ~ Fearless
*Babies ~Fatherless
*Feelings ~ Heartless

*Education ~ Valueless
*Children ~Mannerless
Everything is becoming LESS but still our hopes are

~End-less.
In fact I am ~Speech-less ..........

Selected
marge

Ames, IA

#435347 Apr 25, 2013
What I tell you now in the darkness, shout abroad when daybreak comes. What I whisper in your ear, shout from the housetops for all to hear!

Since: Sep 09

New Hazelton, Canada

#435348 Apr 25, 2013
Just sayin wrote:
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So sorry you feel that way about yourself. What happened, June?
If a creator created life, don't you think the creator would value all forms of life as being equal?

Why ... in your professional theo-logical opinion (sarcasm intended) do you believe non-human forms of life suffer?

Is your imaginary god a sadist?

I would rather depend on the idea that there is no reason to believe in the existence of a creator than to think that a creator would be so vile.
Pad

Rockford, IL

#435349 Apr 25, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
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"so that we in this century can read what HIS desire for humankind is."
The problem is Dan, everyone reads it and comes to their own conclusions as to what His desires are. That is not what Jesus wanted. Yes, Sacred Scripture is God's Word. But God's Word needs an infallible interpreter. Thousands of sects interpreting by their own authority creates doctrinal anarchy and chaos.
I can understand your point here,but I disagree with the fact that there is anarchy and chaos as a result to the present Christian movement as a whole.Christians most of all need the Spirit to link them together,both in truth and in experience.We are not without our roots.Our roots as to who and what Christ is in our lives is what connects us,even if we are not in the same affiliation.

When a person exalts Christ no matter what his or her group,organization or church is,we can all relate to that as believers.The Spirit is the ONE who makes us O N E,not an organization or affiliation,that is obvious!

The Bible is not that difficult to follow,if a soul seeks to allow the Holy Spirit to guide and direct,TEACH,convict of sin and so on.All the great men and women of the past who saw the Risen Savior in Scripture usually have the same testimony of LOVE,and for the most part are willing to lay down their lives for HIM who has bought us with a great price.

We have to Anthony look to what Christ is doing not what men are doing in regards to HIS faith,His Word and so on.That changes the whole picture of our limitation in understanding and interpretation as well.The factions of disagreement and debate will always be with us,it is when we submit to the Spirit of the Living God to teach us what He desires from His Word,that unites us eventually,as there is no PRIVATE Interpretation.

How do we know that even our spiritual leaders are not moving according to their own agenda rather than HIS? That could be a problem with any given priest,minister,and so on.

But as we are taught to reverently handle the Word of God:reading,studying,using for proof of sound doctrine, ultimately the Spirit will produce the proper fruit within those who do such,for the glory of the whole Body in Christ,not some individual interpretation,but that which is brought about by the Spirit for the whole, assembly as it were.

This is possible,because God is "willing that none perish,but all come to eternal life."Also the Scripture tells us that many "perish for lack of knowledge." There is so much in the Word that is spiritually discerned and can only be revealed by the Great comforter,the Holy Spirit.Do you really think that the Holy Spirit is going to just throw all of what is Holy out there,for all of us to grapple to the ground to pick up pieces of it for our own benefit?

No we are dealing with the greatest gentleman that is beyond any respectful individual here on earth.The Holy Spirit being OMNIPRESENT was given to the whole Body of Christ to teach,inform,illumine,and most of all to reveal to us the PERSON of the Lord Jesus Christ who sits at the right hand of the Father in glory.

It is really disrespectful to the Holy Spirit to continue on the premise that your church alone has the true interpretation of the Scriptures,yet at the same time acquiese to the fact that our baptism makes us Christians,as if we need the approval of the RCC to condone our baptism.WHEN infact all that we have done sacramentally has been done through the confirmation of the Word of God,and given life by the Spirit of Truth.

The Word does not leave us in the dark,and without understanding as to what the Will of the Father is,so that alone with the Spirit's help leads us into ORDER,not mayhem and chaos.

Since: Sep 09

New Hazelton, Canada

#435350 Apr 25, 2013
Just sayin wrote:
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Uh, June, I couldn't help but notice that you are still bogged down in religion and the "blight" of it is bugging your psyche day in and day out.
Trying to free others from the blight of religion, is not being bogged down in trusting that religion gave me answers.

At the end of my religion journey, religion gave me nothing but dis-ease and disillusionment. That's why I left it behind.

Since: Sep 09

New Hazelton, Canada

#435351 Apr 25, 2013
marge wrote:
What I tell you now in the darkness, shout abroad when daybreak comes. What I whisper in your ear, shout from the housetops for all to hear!
What what you like us to hear? That you believe Muslims can't be saved unless they join your cult ... that you are holy, and others are evil ... that you are saved and others will burn in hell?

You get the best part of the deal ... don't you? That's the truth about those in all cults. They stay because they want to perceive that they are wise for choosing their own "brand" of religion.

Silly stuff of ego!

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