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Religion - A Delusion

Titusville, FL

#435301 Apr 25, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
who="Religion - A Delusion" Let's ALL ask Jesus to appear...
There is only one way for Jesus to prove that he rose from the dead. He had to appear to people. Several different places in the Bible describe Jesus' appearances after his death:
Matthew chapter 28
Mark chapter 16
Luke chapter 24
John Chapter 20 and 21
1 Corinthians 15:3-6 provides a nice summary of those passages, as written by Paul.
Obviously Paul benefitted from a personal meeting with the resurrected Christ. Because of the personal visit, Paul could see for himself the truth of the resurrection, and he could ask Jesus questions.
So... Why doesn't Jesus appear to everyone and prove that he is resurrected, just like he appeared to Paul?
Why did Jesus stop making these appearances?
We know that it is OK for Jesus to appear to people -- it does not take away their free will, for example -- because it was OK for Jesus to appear to hundreds of other people in the Bible.
Let's ALL ask Jesus to appear.
What do you think would happen?
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You are reading the wrong papers. Jesus is appearing to many in other countries, especially. Islamic people are being converted after seeing Jesus in dreams and visions.
Americans aren't looking for Him, so they don't often see Him. They consider themselves too smart to believe in One they cannot 'see'.
If you ask Him sincerely, you will find Him. If you ask mockingly to prove that He is not, then you cannot see Him. He doesn't play games with scoffers.
KayMarie
He won't appears to unbelievers? You made that up.

It sounds like an imaginary god -- you have to make it up as you go.

Again, Jesus often appeared to unbelievers in the Bible.

Paul for example.

Your excuse is contrived and doesn't fit the story.
Religion - A Delusion

Titusville, FL

#435302 Apr 25, 2013
This board needs unity.

God doesn't want us to argue, right?

Let's ALL ask Jesus to appear...

There used to be one way for Jesus to prove that he rose from the dead. He used to appear to people. Several different places in the Bible describe Jesus' appearances after his death:

Matthew chapter 28
Mark chapter 16
Luke chapter 24
John Chapter 20 and 21

1 Corinthians 15:3-6 provides a nice summary of those passages, as written by Paul.

Obviously Paul benefitted from a personal meeting with the resurrected Christ. Because of the personal visit, Paul could see for himself the truth of the resurrection, and he could ask Jesus questions.

So...

Why did Jesus stop making these appearances?

We know that it is OK for Jesus to appear to people -- it does not take away their free will, for example -- because it was OK for Jesus to appear to hundreds of other people in the Bible.

Let's ALL ask Jesus to appear.

What do you think would happen?

I do, because I am a great seer.

Nothing will happen -- because all gods throughout history have proven to be imaginary.

Not just Jesus -- but 100% of all gods = imaginary.

That why no one can agree here.

That's why there have been so many religious wars.

So let's all pray together and maybe Jesus will prove me wrong? lol
Religion - A Delusion

Titusville, FL

#435303 Apr 25, 2013
Jesus in the Bible knew that people needed to see it to believe it.

So he appeared often after he rose.

Matthew chapter 28
Mark chapter 16
Luke chapter 24
John Chapter 20 and 21
Corinthians 15:3-6

But everyone here knows not to waste their time.

Everyone knows my request is silly.

Why?
Religion - A Delusion

Titusville, FL

#435304 Apr 25, 2013
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
Lets begin (1) with your own words: 1. Catholic tradition "trumping the bible" 2. Catholics worship idols 3. Catholics worship Mary 4. The Eucharist is not the true body and blood of Christ 5. Catholics don't preach, follow or proclaim Jesus Christ a Lord and Savior 6. Catholics aren't Christian 7. Catholics believe in "works only" 8. The Pope interprets the bible for Catholics 9. Catholics are told not to read or interpret the bible 10.Catholics don't have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ----"these 10 are just for starters Ox!!! Want more??? Just ask me, an ex-Protestant who came into "true Salvation", the "fullness of the faith" and the "fullness of the truth" in Jesus Christ---in and through HIS One (and only one) True Apostolic Catholic Church!!!---the bride of Christ!!!!
In what respects is Mary NOT a goddess?

Even the new Pope said one of the first things he would do is to "pray to Mary."

His exact words.

Is the Ope confused? Of course not.

You deny Mary.

Shameful. In what way is Mary NOT a goddess?

Since: Sep 09

New Hazelton, Canada

#435305 Apr 25, 2013
The Woman’s Dictionary of Symbols and Sacred objects … by Barbara G. Walker.

Mary

One of the symbols of the Virgin Mary reveals the reason that four-leaf clover design in Mary’s sign develops from a Maltese cross, and also includes symbols of the night and day (or dark and full moons) while it points to the four directions. 1 As a pagan design, which it used to be, this probably referred to the four solar turning-points of the year and the nocturnal “eves” when their celebrations were held.

Pagan symbols often became “lucky” in a nonpagan society that refused to recognize their original sense, just as the Goddess Fortuna became Lady Luck, and a rabbit’s foot became a charm instead of a sacred talisman of the Moon-hare. The basic paganism of Mary as a composite of the ancient Goddess images led church fathers to oppose her worship most bitterly in the early centuries, and to declare heretical those who claimed she was truly divine. 2 Anastasius insisted that she must never be called Mother of God, for “it is impossible that God should be born of a woman.” 3 Nevertheless, people went right on calling her Mother of God. Eventually, realizing her powerful hold on the masses, churchmen themselves adopted all manner of extravagant praises of the ancient Goddess, newly applied to Mary. She was declared “queen of heaven, empress of hell, lady of all the world.” 4 The Office of the Virgin even made her the world’s primal being,“created from the beginning and before the centuries.” 5

Therefore it was perhaps not so strange that Mary should be symbolized by a sign of the old Goddess who established four elements and the four directions at the same time that she gave birth to the gods.

1. Lechner,108.
2. Briffault 3, 183.
3. de Riencourt, 150
4. Scot, 348.
5. Male, 238.
7th Day Catholics Rock

Poplar Bluff, MO

#435306 Apr 25, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
And what did Christ do with those keys?
What did Peter do with those keys?
Well, lets just say Pope Francis, the 266th Bishop of Rome has them now.
Revelation 3:7 "To the angel of the church in Philadelphia write: These are the words of him who is holy and true, who holds the key of David. What he opens no one can shut, and what he shuts no one can open.

Doesn't sound like your Pope is holding the key to me.

Since: Sep 09

New Hazelton, Canada

#435307 Apr 25, 2013
Religion - A Delusion wrote:
<quoted text>
He won't appears to unbelievers? You made that up.
It sounds like an imaginary god -- you have to make it up as you go.
Again, Jesus often appeared to unbelievers in the Bible.
Paul for example.
Your excuse is contrived and doesn't fit the story.
Jesus won't appear to non-believers, just as his father wouldn't appear to non-believers ... because myths can't appear to people who don't believe in myths.

Those suffering from the DTs see snakes and bugs crawling everywhere ... but others not suffering from withdrawal of alcohol can't see those critters.

If people are going to entertain fantasies of divine or evil beings as the real deal ... they may be in for the mental rides of their lives.

Since: Sep 09

New Hazelton, Canada

#435308 Apr 25, 2013
Aretha123 wrote:
<quoted text>
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June VanSnarly quotes my post thusly:
God uses holy people as channels of His grace to others.
I won't believe a god appeared to inform you that you are holy.

Even theology will only stretch so far before it snaps.

:)

Since: Sep 09

New Hazelton, Canada

#435309 Apr 25, 2013
7th Day Catholics Rock wrote:
<quoted text>
Revelation 3:7 "To the angel of the church in Philadelphia write: These are the words of him who is holy and true, who holds the key of David. What he opens no one can shut, and what he shuts no one can open.
Doesn't sound like your Pope is holding the key to me.
The only keys held by a pope or any other theological authors of lies, were the keys that opened to where their real treasures were kept, such as diamonds, gold, silver, and stack upon stacks of money.

Since: Sep 09

New Hazelton, Canada

#435310 Apr 25, 2013
Gosh ... some of these people become nasty when I suggest that no god exists to tell them that they are holy.

Yet they don't mind informing me that the same god will punish me as an evil sinner and that I deserve to only drive a black bus ... of all things.

Why such a god would give favor to those who favor their selves to such a high degree of holiness, is beyond me. It seems the god prefers to favor extremely arrogant humans.

That's the thanks I get for believing that humans are of no more value than swamp rats, and are not as wise either.

:)

Since: Sep 09

New Hazelton, Canada

#435311 Apr 25, 2013
My guess is that the term "They sure think their shit doesn't stink" came from those in religion believing they were HOLY.

That word holy smacks of arrogance ... but the people that use it to speak of their selves don't see it that way.

So caught in the idea that they are servants of the head-haunch of the universe, they turn their selves into the image of the head-haunch that they worship, which really is all about their-selves.

When a person believes that he/she is holy, the ego is so full of itself, all other views are blocked by the inflated ego.
chuck

Dublin, OH

#435313 Apr 25, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
Gosh ... some of these people become nasty when I suggest that no god exists to tell them that they are holy.
Yet they don't mind informing me that the same god will punish me as an evil sinner and that I deserve to only drive a black bus ... of all things.
Why such a god would give favor to those who favor their selves to such a high degree of holiness, is beyond me. It seems the god prefers to favor extremely arrogant humans.
That's the thanks I get for believing that humans are of no more value than swamp rats, and are not as wise either.
:)
I don't get mad at your Grams. I understand you are up in years, live alone, and you have nothing better to do but spend your day on a public forum telling folks you don't believe in God. We get it....you don't believe in God. Have a great day!!
The casual observer

Niota, TN

#435314 Apr 25, 2013
Divide longer posts. Generate more output.
Go for third place.

You can do it!
The casual observer

Niota, TN

#435315 Apr 25, 2013
Drive that post count up!
The casual observer

Niota, TN

#435316 Apr 25, 2013
See how easy it is!

Since: Sep 09

New Hazelton, Canada

#435317 Apr 25, 2013
People interpret words written by ancient ignorant men for ONE reason. You were taught that those words were all about solved mysteries, and that if you study the words, you will become holy and filled with the same knowledge.

It was a trick used by theologians of ALL religions to entice you and hypnotize you to the idea that THEY knew the answers.

They taught you to defend their own cults and hate the words taught by theologians in other cults.

The term is "divide and conquer."

They wanted you to take sides ... always their own sides. And their schemes worked for them ... but not for the betterment of society.

When you deflate your egos and allow that word holy to travel into thin air from where it originated, you will stop fighting over whose myths are real and whose are false.

Until then ... you will keep on defending lies, as the theologians expected of you, and they won't be disappointed.

Since: Sep 09

New Hazelton, Canada

#435318 Apr 25, 2013
chuck wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't get mad at your Grams. I understand you are up in years, live alone, and you have nothing better to do but spend your day on a public forum telling folks you don't believe in God. We get it....you don't believe in God. Have a great day!!
Pity is another way of insulting those you believe are evil, as you stand on your holy pulpit and preach hollow words from your self-impressive godly position.

Silly people!

Since: Apr 13

Goleta, CA

#435319 Apr 25, 2013
All religion does is divide ppl.
chuck

Dublin, OH

#435320 Apr 25, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
People interpret words written by ancient ignorant men for ONE reason. You were taught that those words were all about solved mysteries, and that if you study the words, you will become holy and filled with the same knowledge.
It was a trick used by theologians of ALL religions to entice you and hypnotize you to the idea that THEY knew the answers.
They taught you to defend their own cults and hate the words taught by theologians in other cults.
The term is "divide and conquer."
They wanted you to take sides ... always their own sides. And their schemes worked for them ... but not for the betterment of society.
When you deflate your egos and allow that word holy to travel into thin air from where it originated, you will stop fighting over whose myths are real and whose are false.
Until then ... you will keep on defending lies, as the theologians expected of you, and they won't be disappointed.
Ok....thanks

Since: Sep 09

New Hazelton, Canada

#435321 Apr 25, 2013
The Woman’s Dictionary of Symbols and Sacred objects … by Barbara G. Walker.

Saliva

The miracles of both Jesus and Mohammed, curing the blind with saliva, were nothing new. Long before Jesus’ time, a clay tablet from Nineveh stated that blindness could be cured by a mixture of saliva and milk from one of the holy harlots in the temple.

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