Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 20 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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socci

Plattsburg, MO

#434987 Apr 23, 2013
Religion - A Delusion wrote:
I hate you for rejecting the Flying Spaghetti Monster. I have just as much evidence for my God as you have for yours.
In fact, all the gods in history have the same amount of evidence as there is for mine -- the FSM!!!
So why do you call names? Have you figured it out yet?
Arrrrrrrrrrrr..... FSM loves you.

Jesus is an historic fact. The Bible says he is God and Creator. There is no proof for any other gods.

The Bible is confirmed with a long HISTORY & SCIENCE.

Add your 'caveman' to the textbook fiction.

Since: Sep 09

New Hazelton, Canada

#434988 Apr 23, 2013
socci wrote:
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The first Christians were not Catholics:
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I believe they were the first ones to use the term Christian.

There were probably many break-away Jews disgruntled with Judaism. That type of habit was commonplace.

But the first word Christian was used by the Catholics.

Ignatius was a Catholic
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>

The skullduggery of the early Catholics to give the impression that Jesus was a savior to ONLY Catholic Christians is plain for those who want to see.
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>

Ignatius in his letters is warning his flock to stay away from all sorts of theological perils out there, including Judaism and including all sorts of mistaken Christian theologies. And, in his writings, Ignatius uses the word Christianity, and he uses it ... in contrast with the word Judaism. We have here for the first time a polarity, a contrast. There is something called Judaism and there is something called Christianity, and true Christians will make sure that what they believe and what they do, is in fact Christianity and it's not Judaism. That is explicit and unambiguous for the very first time in the writings of Ignatius around the year 110 or 120 B.C....

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows ...
socci

Plattsburg, MO

#434989 Apr 23, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
I suggest you don't drag science into your silly myths.

Your pagan myths of 'science' is the crux of the matter, then used to brainwash you into disbelief. Real science confirms the Bible 100%.
Religion - A Delusion

Titusville, FL

#434990 Apr 23, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
.... and they do not agree with each other either.
Tell me, how can thousands of Protestants keep a straight face, as they convince people the Holy Spirit is guiding them to truth, when none of them teach the same.
For example:
there are two evangelical mega churches in the twin cities that I know of. One Pastor says God doesn't know the future. He says Its playing out now and our choices will determine it. God will find out together with us, I guess.
Another preaches that God knows everything. He's outside of space and time and just because He knows the future, He still respects our free will and does not interfere with what we choose.
(The second one is in line with Catholicism. The first one is not.)
You guys are a doctrinal mess as each one chooses their own Christianity.
This one believes if everyone thinks alike and takes their orders from Rome, the world will be a better place.

Ahhh, the good old Dark Ages.

So tell us, how well did Catholic prayer do in curing the Black Plague?
socci

Plattsburg, MO

#434991 Apr 23, 2013
Religion - A Delusion wrote:
Fact: you had your day in court... again. Kansas, 2005.
And based on the facts... you lost again.
In the end, it's no to teaching intelligent design, or -- teach this version as well.
http://www.venganza.org/about/open-letter/

Then we all agree the state is corrupt. What else is new. So we pull our children out of the state schools and turn off their toxic propaganda media.

Next!

Atheism: The NWO Lie

http://atheists.org/The_Enlightenment,_Freema...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cult_of_Reason

http://www.creationism.org/books/TaylorInMind...

http://youtu.be/UQjVaoDC0Yw

“let's do this thang!”

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#434992 Apr 23, 2013
Religion - A Delusion wrote:
<quoted text>
Fact: you had your day in court... again. Kansas, 2005.
And based on the facts... you lost again.
In the end, it's no to teaching intelligent design, or -- teach this version as well.
http://www.venganza.org/about/open-letter/
I hate you for rejecting the Flying Spaghetti Monster. I have just as much evidence for my God as you have for yours.
In fact, all the gods in history have the same amount of evidence as there is for mine -- the FSM!!!
So why do you call names? Have you figured it out yet?
Arrrrrrrrrrrr..... FSM loves you.
this is all very amusing, but did you know that JESUS IS GOD?!

yeah.....says so smack-dab right thar in middle of that thar Bible!;)

“let's do this thang!”

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#434993 Apr 23, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
Billy Graham felt power when he preached that only Christians would be "saved."
Now he changed his sermon, and still doesn't admit that his change of mind had nothing to do with a god instructing his thinking.
Followers are blind ... by choice!
alL billy was trying to say is that even a June VanDerMark can be saved if they'd just humble themselves/repent and believe that JESUS IS GOD!:)
socci

Plattsburg, MO

#434994 Apr 23, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
Those self-perceived moralists were certain that the god of their dreams would want humans with syphilis to be punished.
You are of the same mindset. You feel power from telling others they are evil and will be punished by your "god."

Yet syphilis is a lifestyle STD yes? So they were right.

Romans 1:27 "In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error."

The same is often said about you all who eat the unclean meats God said do not eat for it was never meant for food and does carry disease.
socci

Plattsburg, MO

#434995 Apr 23, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
I believe they were the first ones to use the term Christian.


The Nazarenes were called "Christian" at times. This is found in writings of numerous historians. Catholics were called 'Catholic', then began to k!ll all the real Christians and stole the namesake, as they do still today.
Tiger Lily

New Zealand

#434996 Apr 23, 2013
Just sayin wrote:
Why do people insinuate that God made a mistake just because they don't understand why He chose to do a certain thing? Should He have consulted these people first to get their opinions on the matter?
Has the question never entered your mind?
Why did God have to beg the question?
These people youy say He should have consulted: you mean Adam and Eve? Why not? God knew they were curious. Why were the allowed to be tempted by a snake? If Adam and Eve were not vegetarian, they might have thrown away the apple and eaten the snake!
That would have saved the entire human race!
Has that ever been considered?
socci

Plattsburg, MO

#434997 Apr 23, 2013
Clay wrote:
Tell me, how can thousands of Protestants keep a straight face, as they convince people the Holy Spirit is guiding them to truth, when none of them teach the same.

We all agree the pope in not god or his representative.

outrageous claims by the pope in Rome
www.lightministries.com/id523.htm
Religion - A Delusion

Titusville, FL

#434998 Apr 23, 2013
socci wrote:
<quoted text>
The Bible says Jesus died on the cross at the hands of Pilate. This is confirmed by the roman and Jewish historians of the day. They were not Christian and had no reason to embellish events. They were simply recording the history, now used to confirm the Biblical account.
Your denial of these facts is the delusion brought to your mind by the so-called 'science' who have kept these facts from you.
A delusional one writes -- "This is confirmed by the roman and Jewish historians of the day."

No it was not. There are no Jewish or Roman accounts.

The Romans kept meticulous records. There occurs no contemporary Roman record that shows Pontius Pilate executing a man named Jesus.

Also, it is absurd to think that a Roman Governor would ask a mob of his subjects for their advice on anything. It would have been a first.

It's all hearsay and myth. There is not a single contemporary writing that mentions Jesus.

Because the religious mind relies on faith, the religious person can inherit a dependence on any information that supports a belief and that includes fraudulent stories, rumors, unreliable data, and fictions, without the need to check sources, or to investigate the reliability of the information.
Religion - A Delusion

Titusville, FL

#434999 Apr 23, 2013
socci wrote:
<quoted text>
Then we all agree the state is corrupt. What else is new. So we pull our children out of the state schools and turn off their toxic propaganda media.
Next!
Atheism: The NWO Lie
http://atheists.org/The_Enlightenment,_Freema...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cult_of_Reason
http://www.creationism.org/books/TaylorInMind...
http://youtu.be/UQjVaoDC0Yw
Don't forget the UFOs.

But really, how far away is this one from "mainstream" religion?

It's all imaginary.
socci

Plattsburg, MO

#435000 Apr 23, 2013
yea...

"The title Nazarenes, "men from Nazareth," is first applied to the Christians by Tertullus (Acts 24:5), though Herod Agrippa II (Acts 26:28) uses the term "Christians" which had first been used at Antioch (Acts 11:26)."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazarene_ (sect)#The_Sect_of_the_Nazaren es_.281st_century.29
socci

Plattsburg, MO

#435001 Apr 23, 2013
Marxism - A Delusion wrote:
"This is confirmed by the roman and Jewish historians of the day."
No it was not. There are no Jewish or Roman accounts.


Your denial wont change those historians who have the final say on the matter as they were there.

Here is a quote from the Encyclopedia Britannica concerning the testimony of the many independent secular accounts of Jesus of Nazareth: "These independent accounts prove that in ancient times even the opponents of Christianity never doubted the historicity of Jesus, which was disputed for the first time and on inadequate grounds by several authors at the end of the 18th, during the 19th, and at the beginning of the 20th centuries."
http://www.thedevineevidence.com/jesus_histor...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historicity_of_J...
socci

Plattsburg, MO

#435002 Apr 23, 2013
Religion - A Delusion wrote:
Don't forget the UFOs.
But really, how far away is this one from "mainstream" religion?
It's all imaginary.

Karl Marx is not a UFO. You are just illiterate. I did not write the wikipedia article or the atheist links cited...

Atheism: The NWO Lie

http://atheists.org/The_Enlightenment,_Freema...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cult_of_Reason

oh and one more.......

The Evidence for the Existence of Jesus
http://youtu.be/cDoMerykoCY

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#435003 Apr 23, 2013
who="Clay"
.... and they do not agree with each other either.
Tell me, how can thousands of Protestants keep a straight face, as they convince people the Holy Spirit is guiding them to truth, when none of them teach the same.
For example:
there are two evangelical mega churches in the twin cities that I know of. One Pastor says God doesn't know the future. He says Its playing out now and our choices will determine it. God will find out together with us, I guess.
Another preaches that God knows everything. He's outside of space and time and just because He knows the future, He still respects our free will and does not interfere with what we choose.
(The second one is in line with Catholicism. The first one is not.)
You guys are a doctrinal mess as each one chooses their own Christianity.

**********

Mostly Protestants agree that :

(1)Jesus died to pay the price for our sin.
(2)He rose from the grave. He is alive.
(3)Acknowledging/believing (1) brings about a change (new birth).
(4)There is a heaven.
(5)There is a hell.
(6)The wage of sin is death.
(7)The Just live by faith.
(8)If we confess our sin, He forgives and cleanses us.
(9)We are to forgive others.
(10)We are to give to the poor.
(11)We are to 'do unto others' as we wish them to do to us.
(12)We are to be baptized and take communion...etc.

Actually, there is a lot of agreement between us all. Those who differ greatly are called 'cults'. There are some minor differences in practices, but those differences are not of eternal consequence.

The name over the door is different just as the CC churches are different. St. Mary's, St. Alphonsius, St. Peter, or St. Johns, etc.

KayMarie
Tiger Lily

New Zealand

#435004 Apr 23, 2013
Supreme Papal Authority Comes From the Law of the Caesars

http://www.lightministries.com/id523.htm

"...superior papal authority and dominion is derived from the law of the Caesars." Lucius Ferraris, in "Prompta Bibliotheca Canonica, Juridica, Moralis, Theologica, Ascetica, Polemica, Rubristica, Historica", Volume V, article on "Papa, Article II", titled "Concerning the extent of Papal dignity, authority, or dominion and infallibility",#19, published in Petit-Montrouge (Paris) by J. P. Migne, 1858 edition.

"...the appellation of God had been confirmed by Constantine on the Pope, who being God, cannot be judged by man." Pope Nicholas I, quoted in History of the Councils, vol. IX, Dist.: 96, Can 7, "Satis Evidentur Decret Gratian Primer Para", by Labbe and Cossart.

As we all know, the RCC is of pagan Rome origins: nomne other.

But of course, we will have the papists deny the truth of this and simply dismiss it as "anti-catholic".
Religion - A Delusion

Titusville, FL

#435005 Apr 23, 2013
socci wrote:
<quoted text>
Karl Marx is not a UFO. You are just illiterate. I did not write the wikipedia article or the atheist links cited...
Atheism: The NWO Lie
http://atheists.org/The_Enlightenment,_Freema...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cult_of_Reason
oh and one more.......
The Evidence for the Existence of Jesus
http://youtu.be/cDoMerykoCY
How did you come up with Karl Marx?

I get it! All agnostics are communists. You have to keep the delusion simple, so a few simple labels for everyone.

You keep forgetting one fact.

We agree on 95% of the world's religious dogma. We agree that all the ancient gods were imaginary. We agree that Allah is imaginary. We agree that the Catholic claim of one-true is absurd.

We agree on all but our own ideas of God.

But I have proof -- real sightings and photos of the Flying Spaghetti Monster.

http://www.venganza.org/category/sightings/
Religion - A Delusion

Titusville, FL

#435006 Apr 23, 2013
socci wrote:
<quoted text>
We all agree the pope in not god or his representative.
outrageous claims by the pope in Rome
www.lightministries.com/id523.htm
"There is No Salvation Without Personal Submission to the Pope."

Yes this is absurd. At least 95% of the world's religious dogma is absurd.

All except for mine: http://www.venganza.org/

He boiled for your sins.

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