Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

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The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ. Read more

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#434451 Apr 21, 2013
From the book “God’s Bullies,” by Perry Deanne Young comes the following

You realize, then, that people see God through mirrors—and the reflection is often that fearsome, intolerant beast inside all of us.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#434452 Apr 21, 2013
The Seven Mysteries of Life … Exploration in Science and Philosophy … Guy Murchie.

Of this period Erasmus sadly wrote:“We were forever slaughtering each other for opinions that were mere guesswork—yet caused half of humanity to send the other half to the gallows or the stake—and for what?” Science was virtually standing still because any man bold enough to do any scientific research or to admit any scientific discovery was taking a fearful risk. Michael Servetus knew it—he who discovered the circulation of blood and was burned at the stake at the request of Calvin. Giordano Bruno knew it, and was burned for agreeing with Copernicus that the earth moves around the sun. And Galileo, who discovered the moons of Jupiter and the rings of Saturn, barely escaped a similar fate by recanting on his knees.
Clay

United States

#434458 Apr 21, 2013
zander714 wrote:
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Wow, 51,000 plus post. That must be a Topix record.
That's just the total for last week.
Topix re-sets her tally every Monday. lol.
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AOL

#434459 Apr 21, 2013
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Have you tormented the devil today ?



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Since: Apr 13

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#434460 Apr 21, 2013
The best way to evangelize is to burn, like St. Francis did, for the love of God; and to sustain that kind of zeal you need constant contact with the fire of God's Word. Few people become Christians because they are taught Christian doctrine. Millions have become Christian because they met a Christian who loved God so much that it spilled over into love for other people. When love for God is strong, so is the desire to know Him more fully. That's where a zeal for His Word comes in. As St. Augustine put it, "Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ."

Since: Apr 13

Location hidden

#434461 Apr 21, 2013
In 1492, poverty forced Erasmus into the consecrated life.[13] He took vows as a canon regular at the canonry of Stein, in South Holland, and was ordained to the Catholic priesthood at about the age of 25He was a proponent of religious toleration
Erasmus lived against the backdrop of the growing European religious Reformation; but while he was critical of the abuses within the Church and called for reform, he kept his distance from Luther and Melancthon and continued to recognise the authority of the pope. Erasmus emphasized a middle way, with a deep respect for traditional faith, piety and grace, and rejected Luther's emphasis on faith alone. Erasmus therefore remained a member of the Catholic Church all his life.[3] In relation to clerical abuses in the Church, Erasmus remained committed to reforming the Church from within.

Apart from these perceived moral failings of the Reformers, Erasmus also dreaded any change in doctrine, citing the long history of the Church as a bulwark against innovation. In book I of his Hyperaspistes he puts the matter bluntly to Luther:
We are dealing with this: Would a stable mind depart from the opinion handed down by so many men famous for holiness and miracles, depart from the decisions of the Church, and commit our souls to the faith of someone like you who has sprung up just now with a few followers, although the leading men of your flock do not agree either with you or among themselves – indeed though you do not even agree with yourself, since in this same Assertion[39] you say one thing in the beginning and something else later on, recanting what you said before.[40]

You stipulate that we should not ask for or accept anything but Holy Scripture, but you do it in such a way as to require that we permit you to be its sole interpreter, renouncing all others. Thus the victory will be yours if we allow you to be not the steward but the lord of Holy Scripture.[42]
Though he remained firmly neutral, each side accused him of siding with the other, perhaps because of his neutrality. It was not for lack of fidelity with either side but a desire for fidelity with them both:
"I detest dissension because it goes both against the teachings of Christ and against a secret inclination of nature. I doubt that either side in the dispute can be suppressed without grave loss."[43]
In his catechism (entitled Explanation of the Apostles' Creed)(1533), Erasmus took a stand against Luther's teaching by asserting the unwritten Sacred Tradition as just as valid a source of revelation as the Bible,
Certain works of Erasmus laid a foundation for religious toleration. For example, in De libero arbitrio, opposing certain views of Martin Luther, Erasmus noted that religious disputants should be temperate in their language, "because in this way the truth, which is often lost amidst too much wrangling may be more surely perceived." Gary Remer writes, "Like Cicero, Erasmus concludes that truth is furthered by a more harmonious relationship between interlocutors." [50] Although Erasmus did not oppose the punishment of heretics, in individual cases he generally argued for moderation and against the death penalty. He wrote, "It is better to cure a sick man than to kill him."
The Catholic Counter-Reformation movement often condemned Erasmus as having "laid the egg that hatched the Reformation." Their critique of him was based principally on his not being strong enough in his criticism of Luther, not seeing the dangers (from their perspective) of a vernacular Bible and dabbling in dangerous scriptural criticism that weakened the Church's arguments against Arianism and other doctrines. All of his works were placed on the Index of Prohibited Books by Pope Paul IV, and some of his works continued to be banned or viewed with caution in the later Index of Pope Pius IV.
truth

Perth, Australia

#434462 Apr 21, 2013
no Micle
please tell me
every second or any minute or every hour
how many clean and destroy childreen unwanted ..
much more

future
no micle you are not alright micle
please except
how in heaven will be on earth
what ever and so ever man hand and mind produce its destructive..
no ones more its not delusion=why=because others don't liked that someone know parallel life exist..many many

now
your law is not mine nooooooooo
be good
understood
Creator left law in space and time..
did you search or not who can and who can't asked yourself..
by
Religion - A Delusion

Titusville, FL

#434463 Apr 21, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
From the book “God’s Bullies,” by Perry Deanne Young comes the following
You realize, then, that people see God through mirrors—and the reflection is often that fearsome, intolerant beast inside all of us.
True.

It's delusional to believe that the creator of mankind could get so angry at, jealous of, and yes - envious of its own creation.

It's even more delusional to blame the created, while appeasing the creator.

History tells us that all gods are imaginary, thank god.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#434464 Apr 21, 2013
Religion - A Delusion wrote:
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True.
It's delusional to believe that the creator of mankind could get so angry at, jealous of, and yes - envious of its own creation.
It's even more delusional to blame the created, while appeasing the creator.
History tells us that all gods are imaginary, thank god.
I brought what I just posted on another thread over here in hopes that these Christians will understand how theologians manipulated and continue to manipulate religion to suit their own agendas.
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The founding father of Paganism (Gerald Gardner) was from the ancient belief that homosexuality was offensive to all the divine Pagan entities ... so his theology suited that old-hat part of his spiffy new religion.

But when the hippy era took hold, people who were living the fast lives of sexual orgies as being acceptable, didn't appreciate a goddess that cursed homosexuality. So at the appropriate time, in the early 60s, along came bi-sexual Alex Sanders. He insisted that the goddess "loves" homosexuals, etc. My guess is, had the goddess existed, it would have been quite the surprise to her.

And if you care to notice, Alex was interested in his new religion of serving the MEN. There is no mention of lesbianism.
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Alexandrian Wicca (1963-1973)

In 1973, Alex and Maxine separated, but both continued to practice the craft. One of the key reasons for their separation was that neither would compromise on Alex's bisexuality. After the divorce, Alex focused on formulating Wicca so that it could be followed by homosexual men, who had been partially prevented from involvement previously because of the religions' focus on gender polarity.
truth

Perth, Australia

#434465 Apr 21, 2013
Which God please explain?
Why?
Because many live Godly life!
truth

Perth, Australia

#434466 Apr 21, 2013
You still not tell me where is first Eden..as well why we are here in this life as real Creator purpose?
now

He created us on own image!
Why you call us creature?

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#434467 Apr 21, 2013
zander714 wrote:
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Very true, and interesting.
When Hitler came to full-power, the nation was what Hitler practised, and that was to kill every body, regardless of nationality or religion that he perceived was a threat.

The popes governed by the same "token."

“I am now as before a Catholic and will always remain so”
[Adolph Hitler, to Gen. Gerhard Engel, 1941]

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#434468 Apr 21, 2013
“Any violence which does not spring from a spiritual base, will be wavering and uncertain. It lacks the stability which can only rest in
a fanatical outlook.”

[Adolph Hitler,_Mein Kampf_, p. 171]

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#434469 Apr 21, 2013
I suggest that you never trust religious words interpreted by any theologian ... and that you realize that when you go to those words in your bible and believe you have found truth IN the words ... that you proclaim to be as much a theologian as Gerald Gardner, Alex Sanders, the popes and Luther put together in what you believe is one NEAT package.

Don't fool your selves as did all those arrogant misguided blowhards.

We won't know what happens UNTIL it happens ... period.

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#434470 Apr 21, 2013
413
Religion - A Delusion wrote:
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If the infant was born to a Hindu family and died with original sin, why would any wise and just God treat that child with less love?
What does your sense of justice tell you?
What does the Bible imply?
FYI....you cannot answer questions with questions!!!!!
Pad

Rockford, IL

#434471 Apr 21, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
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I'm more than content to be left out of all religious cults.
Youmight as well June,because you do not know the difference between the different counterfeits. If your were bent on destroying an enemy,and you could not always use force,what tactics would you use?

How about if you knew that your arch ENEMY was going to form a certain plan down the road that would sway millions to follow them and not you,would you consider using counterfeits?

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#434472 Apr 21, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
413
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FYI....you cannot answer questions with questions!!!!!
Neither can you answer what remain mysteries with answers.

Questions concerning mysteries are always honest. Supposed answers to mysteries are always based on guessing-games often taught to believers as absolute truths. And that has lead many believers down paths that many probably wished they had never trod.

The following was one such man.
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From “The Americans, A social history of the United States, 1587-1914,” comes the following,(exactly as written)… Samuel Sewall had the misfortune to be an ad hoc judge in some of the Salem witch trials. Soon afterward his baby daughter died. A consoling friend asked to read from the Bible struck on Matthew 12:7:“but if ye had known what this meaneth … ye would not have condemned the guiltless.” This chance text, it seemed to his conscience, maybe already uneasy about the goings on at Salem, could mean only that the verdicts had been mistaken.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#434473 Apr 21, 2013
Pad wrote:
<quoted text>Youmight as well June,because you do not know the difference between the different counterfeits.
OH WAIT ... let me guess. Your belief is NOT counterfeit ... RIGHT???

:)

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#434474 Apr 21, 2013
Pad wrote:
<quoted text>How about if you knew that your arch ENEMY was going to form a certain plan down the road that would sway millions to follow them and not you,would you consider using counterfeits?
I'd lie through my teeth, and if I found it necessary to gain some followers I might even lie by preaching that a god commanded "US" to follow the god's will.

It's called survival ... but such behavior is not honest and from my perspective it is not based on any semblance of truth.
Pad

Rockford, IL

#434475 Apr 21, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
When Hitler came to full-power, the nation was what Hitler practised, and that was to kill every body, regardless of nationality or religion that he perceived was a threat.
The popes governed by the same "token."
“I am now as before a Catholic and will always remain so”
[Adolph Hitler, to Gen. Gerhard Engel, 1941]
We all have the resources available to us JUNE,to make decisions.The extent of the fact that we all have a free will,even more so determines the type of decision made,and accordingly to the personality.

Look at last week.What a terrible time for so many people who would not have planned the outcome of what transpired.

Two young good looking men,with so much at their disposal decided to take life into their own hands.They lived amongst so many types of people,worked,studied,involved in sports,trained in physical competition,one was married with a precious no doubt 3 yr old daughter.Decisions were being made by these two to follow through on a long planned trek to cause havoc.

Just the fact that they had weapons of a sizable destruction,and the manufacturing of homemade bombs,which they could set off with I-phones,suggests that it was not impromptu,but organized planning,perhaps even rehearsed.The money they needed to pull it off had to come from some greater source.But we will let the FBI discover the roots of that.

Nevertheless the two brothers followed a series of decisions,from purchasing the weapons,building the bombs,finding all the elements to carry out their carnage,YET,continuing to go to school,mix in with ordinary people like themselves,and most of all to FIT IN as it were fully immersed in the culture they have lived in for ten years or so.

They had to plan what event to disjoint,and how and when to enter the scene themselves at their own risk.All of these things took time,planning and a constant decision each day to pull it off,stay with the plan,not give up their purposeful agenda.Self,and personal desire had to be either promoted or disembowed as it were.

If rationale thinking entered in,they had to fight it,a decision to choose a vicious irrational act of violence over the natural intuition to abandon the whole scheme.

Oh that we all make decisions each day of our lives,not knowing ultimately that one decision might not be the best,and that it could invite poverty at our door step. Both young men quickly after their participation to destroy others,are on the threshold of eternity.ONE already is gone(do you believe he will not give an accounting at all?) Tamarlin fought the one morning with police,did he surrender and ask for forgiveness,NO he fought to the death.

Now Dzohar is lying in bed,what is going through, his mind,is he regretting his actions? Who knows,perhaps he is to physically distraught right now to consider anything but sleeping,and breathing.

If the 19 year old dies will he have been able to account for his actions at all? Do you consider JUNE that the time in the hospital bed,suffering the wounds, are his punishment for what he did?

Sorry,but there is too much we humans cannot bear as being our own justice for uncontrolable mayhem.People die as a result to their actions,and here on earth we do not know whether or not the complete accounting is deemed.

We are limited no matter how we look at it.We cannot fully account for what we have done here on this earth,never,we have no idea what bad behavior wreaks both in this life and the next.The person who chooses to do evil takes on something much much bigger than themselves and all others around them.

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