Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

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The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ. Full Story

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#434428 Apr 21, 2013
Gut Stomper wrote:
<quoted text> You seem jealous.
Are YOU jealous of Fred Phelps?

:)

June VanDerMark wrote:
Fred Phelps is a very cruel man, and is probably close to winning a medal for being the king of bullshitters. Yet dear old Fred is certain that Jesus is his best buddy.
Normand Winnipeg

Winnipeg, Canada

#434429 Apr 21, 2013
Religion - A Delusion wrote:
Jesus could have made his message very clear.
As God, Jesus could have been so clear that the average person picking up and reading the Bible for the first time today - would immediately see the wisdom and know that it could not have come from man.
This rarely if ever happens.
Jesus could have been so clear and the proof of his godliness so obvious that all seven billion people on the planet would have aligned with him, rather than fragmenting into dozens of bizarre and often warring religions.
By doing this, Jesus could have completely prevented the Crusades and 9/11, among many other things.
No Inquisitions. No church prisons and torture chambers.
No 30 Years War. No 100 Years War. Maybe no wars period.
Pity. This is yet more strong evidence that this nition of God is imaginary, along with all other gods in human history.
--- Religion is loving peoples and helping peoples...JESUS CHRIST has a clear Message IN RED; the Message is found in Matthew 4 vs. 17 Quote ">>>Turn away from your sins, because the KINGDOM OF HEAVEN IS NEAR"<<<...Pleas e read it...Thankyou...

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#434430 Apr 21, 2013
Religion - A Delusion wrote:
<quoted text>
If the infant was born to Hindu parents -- and died with original sin, why would any wise and just God treat that child with less love?
The men that compiled the data in all the so-called holy books had no sense of justice ... so it follows that the supposed god they wrote stories FOR would also have no sense of justice.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#434431 Apr 21, 2013
Religion - A Delusion wrote:
<quoted text>
That's refreshing. Thank you.
That's not what the Bible says, so as you know, fundies would place the Hindu child in Hell. In fact, all Hindus.
So did the Catholic church I believe, up up to less than 100 years ago. Some call it the Americanization of the Catholic church.
The hierarchy of churches find themselves lost for words.

History proves that religion was and still is brutal, and still the preachers want to make it seem that it is holy.

The two stories simply don't go together.
truth

Perth, Australia

#434432 Apr 21, 2013
Don't provoke your God!
Real God will interfere on last into human affair ..only reason left ..why and when will be?!
When person is in sorrow its not please anyone except who is upon all of us.
God always listen prayers.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#434433 Apr 21, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
~~~
God will not violate the free will of man...
So souls in the hereafter CHOOSE to be burned in hell???

According to you at what point did your loving god stop giving free will?

I suggest you try thinking on your own for a change and clean all that silly theology out of your addict!

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#434434 Apr 21, 2013
marge wrote:
<quoted text>
The Word of God is so comforting it will give someone perfect peace.
Especially the part about all those lost souls burning in hell.

That's really juicy stuff, and comforting to you ... RIGHT!!! Sarcasm intended.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#434435 Apr 21, 2013
truth wrote:
Don't provoke your God!
I suggest that people don't "invoke" imaginary gods into their psyches, as once those images take over, they will control you to believe utter nonsense as being based on truth.
Clay

United States

#434436 Apr 21, 2013
Religion - A Delusion wrote:
<quoted text>
If the infant was born to Hindu parents -- and died with original sin, why would any wise and just God treat that child with less love?
What does your sense of justice tell you?
What does the Bible imply?
The Bible seems clear. The child will not be saved -- through no fault of its own, no free will, no comprehension, just born at the wrong place in the wrong culture.
Why does that God give you joy? Fear it seems.
If God doesn't save non Christians just because of where they were born, then God isn't Love. God will justly decide the fate of all human beings. Those of us who know Jesus are the most 'at risk' of losing salvation, because we've been blessed with Gods grace and if we turn our backs on Christ now, we're hosed.
The Muslim or Hindu child forced into their faith do not know Jesus (Through no fault of their own)
Its logical to believe, since God is infinite love and perfectly just, He wouldn't condemn them soley for not being Christian.
I don't think the born again cults know God and shouldn't be tampering with the Holy Scriptures. So I would advise you to get your proper teachings from the Church that gave us the scriptures. The Catholic Church.
truth

Perth, Australia

#434437 Apr 21, 2013
God allwayes listen prayers..yes ..God never mist anything..no.

Someone who calculated used Matthew ..remember Jesus Christ know too..but deceiver or possessor is really been there in that kingdom..if yes then..please tell me.. why they fall?
Why i am wrong?
Religion - A Delusion

Titusville, FL

#434438 Apr 21, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
Especially the part about all those lost souls burning in hell.
That's really juicy stuff, and comforting to you ... RIGHT!!! Sarcasm intended.
Stockholm syndrom.

The victim tells God how good he makes them feel - in the hope of avoiding God's appointed fate for most of humanity - eternal torture.

Why else would someone worship such a tyrant?
truth

Perth, Australia

#434439 Apr 21, 2013
Hindu..no..you are wrong in Hindu religion they believe in Spirit..as well they know about light too..
please tell me
What is deference between Hindu and Catholic?
We as Catholic as well Christian entire say every Spirit is not Holy..remember that..for that reason Catholic as well Christan follow Jesus Christ name.
cross
MICHAEL

Hamilton, Canada

#434440 Apr 21, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
The Woman’s Dictionary of Symbols and Sacred objects … by Barbara G. Walker.
Christmas tree
The Christmas tree is still one of the Western world’s most beloved symbols, although it had no meaning in the Judeo-Christian context but was drawn almost entirely from pagan tree worship. Preserved through the centuries in central Europe, it was unknown in English-speaking countries until after 1840, when Prince Albert the German bridegroom of Queen Victoria, brought the custom from his native land to England. The Teutonic Christmas tree dated back to Yule celebrations, along with the candles, gifts, and sacrificial pig with an apple in its mouth. But there were pagan elements from southern Europe also. Certain priest of Attis called dendrophori,“tree-bearers,” annually selected a pine tree from the sacred grove (pinea silva) to carry the effigy of the god into his Roman temple. The dendrophori were charged with the duty of setting up and decorating the tree, upon which the god was presented for sacrifice.(1) Perhaps this was the origin of the custom of hanging small male effigies, such as gingerbread men, on the Christmas tree.
Like all evergreens, such as the holly and ivy, the pine tree stood for a promise of eternal life because it kept its vital appearance even when other plants died off during the winter. Naturally this applied only to the living pine tree, lighted and decorated in the woods where it stood. Trees that were cut and brought indoors would soon become brown and dead, thus contradicting the symbolic meaning.
1. Vermaseren, 115.
The christmas tree along with the virgin birth, miracles, crucifixion were all stories that attached themselves to christianity during the first 3 centuries.

Outside the bible there is no mention by anyone from the entire mediteranean during that era of a miracle working god man named Jesus. Stories were created and they stuck like spagetti hitting the wall.

Devastating!
Religion - A Delusion

Titusville, FL

#434441 Apr 21, 2013
Normand Winnipeg wrote:
<quoted text>--- Religion is loving peoples and helping peoples...JESUS CHRIST has a clear Message IN RED; the Message is found in Matthew 4 vs. 17 Quote ">>>Turn away from your sins, because the KINGDOM OF HEAVEN IS NEAR"<<<...Pleas e read it...Thankyou...
Poster writes... "Religion is loving peoples and helping peoples.."

Sounds just like this board, right?

And if the majority of humans never get the word, Jesus "helps" those people with eternal torture.

Loving and helping? And you condone it!

It's delusional. Few can agree on what the Bible says. Christian communes dedicated to Jesus rarely last beyond a few years.

Lip service is one thing. Walking the talk is another.
MICHAEL

Hamilton, Canada

#434442 Apr 21, 2013
The catholic clergy teach the followers that love, and marriage is key to happiness, yet the clergy themselves demand they! live a singular life.

Does anyone with any common sense believe any God would create men more worthy then women?

I can't believe today that any catholic woman doesn't feel slighted that they are less worthy to be in any! positions of authority in the roman catholic church.

makes no common sense!
Religion - A Delusion

Titusville, FL

#434443 Apr 21, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
If God doesn't save non Christians just because of where they were born, then God isn't Love. God will justly decide the fate of all human beings. Those of us who know Jesus are the most 'at risk' of losing salvation, because we've been blessed with Gods grace and if we turn our backs on Christ now, we're hosed.
The Muslim or Hindu child forced into their faith do not know Jesus (Through no fault of their own)
Its logical to believe, since God is infinite love and perfectly just, He wouldn't condemn them soley for not being Christian.
I don't think the born again cults know God and shouldn't be tampering with the Holy Scriptures. So I would advise you to get your proper teachings from the Church that gave us the scriptures. The Catholic Church.
I agree, it is logical to believe that God would not punish humans because they never were taught "properly."

But I remind you that the Catholic Church only became so logical within the past 100 years. And to do so, they had to contradict the Bible and their own teaching for hundreds of years.

Sometimes the delusion is so absurd that thinking men are forced to change in spite of what the Bible says.

Usury, slavery, personal hygiene, and the status of women are other examples that come to mind.
MICHAEL

Hamilton, Canada

#434444 Apr 21, 2013
truth wrote:
God allwayes listen prayers..yes ..God never mist anything..no.
Someone who calculated used Matthew ..remember Jesus Christ know too..but deceiver or possessor is really been there in that kingdom..if yes then..please tell me.. why they fall?
Why i am wrong?
truth says.........God allwayes listen prayers..yes ..God never mist anything..no

Michael says..........tell that to the 25,000 children who will starve to death today! in our world.

.....tell that to the victims of the Boston Marathon bombings.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#434445 Apr 21, 2013
Religion - A Delusion wrote:
<quoted text>
I agree, it is logical to believe that God would not punish humans because they never were taught "properly."
But I remind you that the Catholic Church only became so logical within the past 100 years. And to do so, they had to contradict the Bible and their own teaching for hundreds of years.
Sometimes the delusion is so absurd that thinking men are forced to change in spite of what the Bible says.
Usury, slavery, personal hygiene, and the status of women are other examples that come to mind.
Well-stated!

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#434446 Apr 21, 2013
MICHAEL wrote:
The catholic clergy teach the followers that love, and marriage is key to happiness, yet the clergy themselves demand they! live a singular life.
Does anyone with any common sense believe any God would create men more worthy then women?
I can't believe today that any catholic woman doesn't feel slighted that they are less worthy to be in any! positions of authority in the roman catholic church.
makes no common sense!
People heavily indoctrinated don't question what they were taught, because they believe they are questioning "God." And that was the plan OF the theologians. "I will teach them that 'I' know the word of God, and then they will follow everything else that I teach them as being based on God's truth."

Those theologians were and are cunning operators.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#434447 Apr 21, 2013
MICHAEL wrote:
<quoted text>
The christmas tree along with the virgin birth, miracles, crucifixion were all stories that attached themselves to christianity during the first 3 centuries.
Outside the bible there is no mention by anyone from the entire mediteranean during that era of a miracle working god man named Jesus. Stories were created and they stuck like spagetti hitting the wall.
Devastating!
Many beliefs of the Christians came from Paganism and were morphed into Christianity as supposed truth. Then the Christians claimed the Pagan beliefs were of the DEVIL, and so it became acceptable to kill the Pagans as the will of the supposed Jewish god that favored ONLY Catholic Christians.

Religion drove many people to insanity and suicide.

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