Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

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The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ. Full Story
OldJG

Rockford, IL

#434399 Apr 20, 2013
socci wrote:
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Some Catholics like to believe this although the books of the Bible (actually a scroll at the time) were long in use as we read in early Christian letters.
Who wrote the NT books and when?
http://carm.org/wasnt-new-testament-written-h...
www.datingthenewtestament.com
We do not get the Bible from the RC no matter how many times you repeat this. Just the opposite is true - the RC kept the Bible from everyone. That's what part of the inquisition was about. The NT specifically came from the GREEK ORTHODOX who fled West in 1453 after Islam destroyed Constantinople.
KJV NT origins
http://conservapedia.com/Geneva_Bible#The_Fir...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byzantine_text-t...
Jesus was reading from the OT Law & Prophets long before the RC claims on the canon.
Thank you socci. But unfortunately your information falls on deaf ears and blind eyes. The Lord Jesus Christ can open their ears and their eyes. Let's pray that He does.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#434400 Apr 20, 2013
socci wrote:
<quoted text>
Christmas was also illegal viewed as a romanist holiday. Thank God for the Puritans!
The Puritans were against Christmas.
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>

Chronology of American Religious History: 1600 - 2004

December 25, 1789 During the first Christmas under America's new Constitution, the Congress was in session. This fact may seem odd today, but at the time Christmas was no t a major Christian holiday. As a matter of fact, Christmas had a bad reputation among many Christians as a time of un-Christian excess and partying. Between 1659 and 1681, celebrating Christmas was actually illegal in Boston and anti-Christmas sentiment in the North prevented the day from becoming a national holiday until 1870.

http://atheism.about.com/library/FAQs/religio ...

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#434401 Apr 20, 2013
socci wrote:
<quoted text>
Then others will reprove the lies. That's how it works, lest Rome usurp authority.
All theologians were and are liars. Theologians never agreed, don't agree ... and resent each other's theologies.

It's all in concern with bragging whose myths are based on truth and whose myths are false.

I believe all myths are false. I'm fair to all the myth-makers.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#434402 Apr 20, 2013
Fred Phelps is a very cruel man, and is probably close to winning a medal for being the king of bullshitters. Yet dear old Fred is certain that Jesus is his best buddy.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#434403 Apr 20, 2013
socci wrote:
<quoted text>
Then others will reprove the lies.
Who can reprove your lies ... but you.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#434404 Apr 20, 2013
Glastonbury Thorn

Glastonbury.—A vast concourse of people attended the noted thorn on Christmas-day, new style; but, to their great disappointment, there was no appearance of its blowing, which made them watch it narrowly the 5th of January, the Christmas-day, old style, when it blowed as usual.

Gentleman's Magazine January 1753

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glastonbury_Abbe ...

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#434405 Apr 20, 2013
The Woman’s Dictionary of Symbols and Sacred objects … by Barbara G. Walker.

Christmas tree

The Christmas tree is still one of the Western world’s most beloved symbols, although it had no meaning in the Judeo-Christian context but was drawn almost entirely from pagan tree worship. Preserved through the centuries in central Europe, it was unknown in English-speaking countries until after 1840, when Prince Albert the German bridegroom of Queen Victoria, brought the custom from his native land to England. The Teutonic Christmas tree dated back to Yule celebrations, along with the candles, gifts, and sacrificial pig with an apple in its mouth. But there were pagan elements from southern Europe also. Certain priest of Attis called dendrophori,“tree-bearers,” annually selected a pine tree from the sacred grove (pinea silva) to carry the effigy of the god into his Roman temple. The dendrophori were charged with the duty of setting up and decorating the tree, upon which the god was presented for sacrifice.(1) Perhaps this was the origin of the custom of hanging small male effigies, such as gingerbread men, on the Christmas tree.
Like all evergreens, such as the holly and ivy, the pine tree stood for a promise of eternal life because it kept its vital appearance even when other plants died off during the winter. Naturally this applied only to the living pine tree, lighted and decorated in the woods where it stood. Trees that were cut and brought indoors would soon become brown and dead, thus contradicting the symbolic meaning.

1. Vermaseren, 115.

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#434406 Apr 20, 2013
391
confrinting with the word wrote:
Religion - A Delusion wrote:
If the child was not baptized and died very soon after birth, then what?
Limbo? Hell?
You are saying that a simple ritual -- of which the infant has no knowledge -- gives that child special privileges with God.
Personally, I find such a belief absurd and delusional.
Question...
If the infant was born to a Hindu family and died with original sin, why would any God treat that child with less love and consideration?
Please explain why a Hindu infant is at such a disadvantage over an infant born into the "correct" denomination.
You can't.
**********
Until he/she can believe in Jesus on their own, a child is sanctified by its believing parent.
1Co 7:14 For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband: else were your children unclean; but now are they (the children) holy.
KayMarie
Which brings up the questions: What if both parents are unbelievers??? What happens then????

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#434407 Apr 20, 2013
391
confrinting with the word wrote:
Religion - A Delusion wrote:
If the child was not baptized and died very soon after birth, then what?
Limbo? Hell?
You are saying that a simple ritual -- of which the infant has no knowledge -- gives that child special privileges with God.
Personally, I find such a belief absurd and delusional.
Question...
If the infant was born to a Hindu family and died with original sin, why would any God treat that child with less love and consideration?
Please explain why a Hindu infant is at such a disadvantage over an infant born into the "correct" denomination.
You can't.
**********
Until he/she can believe in Jesus on their own, a child is sanctified by its believing parent.
1Co 7:14 For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband: else were your children unclean; but now are they (the children) holy.
KayMarie
And....does not Scripture teach against a believer marrying an unbeliever???

2Co 6:14 Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?
marge

Ames, IA

#434408 Apr 20, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
Religion - A Delusion wrote:
If the child was not baptized and died very soon after birth, then what?
Limbo? Hell?
You are saying that a simple ritual -- of which the infant has no knowledge -- gives that child special privileges with God.
Personally, I find such a belief absurd and delusional.
Question...
If the infant was born to a Hindu family and died with original sin, why would any God treat that child with less love and consideration?
Please explain why a Hindu infant is at such a disadvantage over an infant born into the "correct" denomination.
You can't.
**********
Until he/she can believe in Jesus on their own, a child is sanctified by its believing parent.
1Co 7:14 For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband: else were your children unclean; but now are they (the children) holy.
KayMarie
Amen Kay Marie, The Word of God is so comforting it will give someone perfect peace. We maybe need to mourn more for them to God, for it is truly sad, like Jeremiah and the other prophets did for their fellow believers.

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#434409 Apr 20, 2013
408
marge wrote:
<quoted text>
Amen Kay Marie, The Word of God is so comforting it will give someone perfect peace. We maybe need to mourn more for them to God, for it is truly sad, like Jeremiah and the other prophets did for their fellow believers.
"mourn more for them to God????!!!:..need some help here...how is this done????!!!

Mourn: kopto, to "chop"; specially, to beat the breast in grief:--cut down, lament, mourn,(be-)wail.

What do you use to beat your breast?????

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#434410 Apr 21, 2013
jethro8 wrote:
<quoted text>he is the creator of everything,that makes him responsible.
~~~

God will not violate the free will of man...

man Packs his own lunch...

The Bible says...

Ecc_10:8 He that diggeth a pit shall fall into it; and whoso breaketh an hedge, a serpent shall bite him.

If a Man willfully steps out of the hedge that God has placed around Him (as protection against the devil)...God will not violate that man's will and stop him,

Such a man is fair game for what ever the devil wants to do..

There are untold numbers that do their own thing refuse God"s protection.

For example ...God has forbidden idolatry but the Roman Catholic Church

thumbs their noses at Him..deliberately provoke Him .and they will have

hell to pay.

They think they know more than God...and their willful sin cost them dearly...

They whine and cry about the miserable result...but they are creating

their own dilemna by their disobedience...I tell them and give them

scriptures to validate what I write....

but their idolatry means more to them than their own welfare...They

break the hedge by choice...

The Book of Romans says it is the cause of the sexual perversion in their Church...But they could not care less..

The last verses of the first chapter of Romans tells them what it bring upon the rest of the world...but their pride means more to them that being obedient to God's word.

Read it for your self

Rom 1:21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.

Rom 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

Rom 1:23 ---> And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things. <---

Rom 1:24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:

(THEY ALSO WROTE THEIR OWN ROAD MAP TP HEAVEN...DISREGARDING GOD'S WORD)

Rom 1:25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

(AS THE RESULT OF THEIR DISOBEDIENCE)

Rom 1:26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

Rom 1:27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

Rom 1:28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

(THE IMPACT THAT THEIR SINS HAVE UPON THE EARTHIS WRITTEN HHERE)

Rom 1:29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,

Rom 1:30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,

Rom 1:31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:

Rom 1:32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

THESE Things .....just don't happen they are caused...BY IDOLATRY.
Religion - A Delusion

Titusville, FL

#434411 Apr 21, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
<quoted text>
We don't know. We entrust them to the mercy of God.
In the case of newborns, if there is any risk we are prepared to call a priest who can be there at a moments notice. In most cases a Catholic chaplain is always available.
That's refreshing. Thank you.

That's not what the Bible says, so as you know, fundies would place the Hindu child in Hell. In fact, all Hindus.

So did the Catholic church I believe, up up to less than 100 years ago. Some call it the Americanization of the Catholic church.
Religion - A Delusion

Titusville, FL

#434412 Apr 21, 2013
socci wrote:
<quoted text>
Christmas was also illegal viewed as a romanist holiday. Thank God for the Puritans!
www.chesebro.net/out_xmas.shtml
www.youtube.com/watch...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinterklaas
Drew Carey 2002 White House Correspondents' Dinner
www.youtube.com/watch...
Sad.

How could anyone outlaw Santa Claus?
Religion - A Delusion

Titusville, FL

#434413 Apr 21, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
391
<quoted text>
Which brings up the questions: What if both parents are unbelievers??? What happens then????
If the infant was born to a Hindu family and died with original sin, why would any wise and just God treat that child with less love?

What does your sense of justice tell you?

What does the Bible imply?
truth

Perth, Australia

#434414 Apr 21, 2013
Two beautiful sweet heart Jesus and Mary except my prayers deeply from my heart because I love you.
How in Heaven will be on Earth.
Heaven=Nevaeh
Where are you liked go?
Where ever you go, you will come to me.
Thanks to Father for his creation.
Keep us as your belonging.
Thanks to Son,he is our Salvation.
Thanks to Mother pray for us.
Thanks to Holy Spirit as our defender too.
Religion - A Delusion

Titusville, FL

#434415 Apr 21, 2013
marge wrote:
<quoted text>
Amen Kay Marie, The Word of God is so comforting it will give someone perfect peace. We maybe need to mourn more for them to God, for it is truly sad, like Jeremiah and the other prophets did for their fellow believers.
If the infant was born to Hindu parents -- and died with original sin, why would any wise and just God treat that child with less love?

What does your sense of justice tell you?

What does the Bible imply?

The Bible seems clear. The child will not be saved -- through no fault of its own, no free will, no comprehension, just born at the wrong place in the wrong culture.

Why does that God give you joy? Fear it seems.
truth

Perth, Australia

#434416 Apr 21, 2013
If child after birth going died do before child died as soon as possible..if are you baptize person any Christan person..lay your hand on child head..in name of Father and Son and Holy Spirit give his name as mother or Father or only person who is there give name which you liked will fully receive..God words stay upon that child.
Gut Stomper

United States

#434417 Apr 21, 2013
Make those extra posts now.
Gut Stomper

United States

#434418 Apr 21, 2013
It's easy.

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