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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 646862 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#434598 Apr 22, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
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You wrote about
"being in religion for so many years,"
Evidently you were into religion (like billions of others in the Roman Catholic Church)...but never born again ....in Christ...
Attempting to walk in religious piety.... while being led by your fleshly carnal nature...
Rom_8:6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
That scenario was never meant to be...
You are so arrogant as to make your stance humorous.

:)
Clay

Saint Paul, MN

#434599 Apr 22, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
~~~
You wrote about
"being in religion for so many years,"
Evidently you were into religion (like billions of others in the Roman Catholic Church)...but never born again ....in Christ...
Attempting to walk in religious piety.... while being led by your fleshly carnal nature...
Rom_8:6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
That scenario was never meant to be...
Why do you have to lie to preach the word of God?
Can't your version stand on its own two feet?
truth

Perth, Australia

#434600 Apr 22, 2013
every spirit is not holy..
say uuuuuuuuuuu as breath..then did you make deference..if not please tell me why not..you can't don't you ..
nowlong process which is billions years in this condition..obey law
which law..

i told you
real Creator left law in space and time..could you fit your millions years in your shoes..please explain

Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#434601 Apr 22, 2013
Clay wrote:
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Are you fully Atheist or 99% like Richard Dawkins?
When you were 'under the spell of religion' what denomination were you?
I've already explained that issue, several times lately on this thread. But as you asked, I will explain it again.

I never left religion because of bitterness. I left it because it didn't make any sense.

My father was raised a Catholic, left Catholicism, to later join up with the Rosicrucian Order, to believe in reincarnation.

My mother was a Lutheran Christian.

I adored my parents, and that is what kept me in religion for so many years. I figured if they believed in the existence of a creator, they would know the truth. Now I believe they were misguided by theologians that preached fancy words as though the words were based on truth.

Whether there is some form of life after death of our bodies remains a mystery. It will be what it will be, and I won't worry about it one way or the other.

I don't intend to preach that I know, because that would not be based on any semblance of truth.

Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#434602 Apr 22, 2013
Religious Insanity in America: The Official Nineteenth-Century Theory

Throughout much of the nineteenth century, psychiatrists and ordinary citizens agreed that one of the chief causes of mental illness was religious excitement.

http://socrel.oxfordjournals.org/content/45/3...
truth

Perth, Australia

#434603 Apr 22, 2013
How you call as atheist..you search about what?..what real Creator left trough time and space
which law?
now please forgive me if you could if i am wrong..
Did I hurt you if i say necu=no..i am sorry i did not mean..but it is as it is.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#434604 Apr 22, 2013
Clay wrote:
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Now that's an interesting response. I've never looked at it that way.
Why doesn't Confrint, Old G, and Preston (those three claimed a special calling to pastor) just say, "here's the Bible, read it for yourself and you'll figure out the Ministry of Jesus Christ".
But that's not what they do, do they?
They may preach that the Bible is all that Christ established and we can easily figure it out on our own, but then, when we disagree about scripture to them, they'll bludgeon us with verse verse verse until we see it their way. Btw, the three men I referred to above, all teach opposite of each other on many critical teachings. Its amazing they try to fool people into thinking the Holy Spirit is guiding them (and everyone) to scriptural truth, when no two on this forum come to the same conclusions.
They damn near force people into Atheism who otherwise may not be, by demanding complete ignorance of the recipient.
~~~

You wrote...

Why doesn't Confrint, Old G, and Preston (those three claimed a special calling to pastor) just say, "here's the Bible, read it for yourself and you'll figure out the Ministry of Jesus Christ".

Before your religious society was establish and started their own ...franchised and monopolized paganistic religion...

~~~
BEFORE YOU FIRST BULL SESSIONS
....
In Revelation Each of the seven Churches of Asia were given separate letters from God.

This proves that there was no such thing s a Universal Church ...Else God would not have given each of them His separate attention.

HE WOULD HAVE WRITTEN ONE LETTER TO ALL...

WHILE WE MAY DISAGREE IN APPLICATIONS....WE AGREE IN GOD'S BASIC PLAN OF SALVATION ( MOST non Catholic churches DO)
AS GIVEN/WRITTEN IN THE BIBLE...

Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#434605 Apr 22, 2013
Meant as humor

I wonder what will happen to those in religion when they cross the border from one life into another and find out that their gods are still invisible?

Humans created the gods as invisible entities, so what can they expect in the future other than invisible entities?

I believe that expecting to see what was originally created as invisible is expecting too much out of nothing.

“let's do this thang!”

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#434606 Apr 22, 2013
Clay wrote:
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No, I'm not proclaiming a different Gospel. They are.
The Eucharist was is and always will be the pinnacle of the Christian faith. Its what Jesus taught. Its what His Apostles taught and everyone else for the first 1600 yrs of Christianity.
These born again evangelicals skimmed over Luke 24:13-35. In this passage, Our Lord makes it clear the scriptures can't be understood by us, unless we have the Eucharist.
i can agree that the 'breaking of bread' is a Christ ordained tradition for the Church/Body of Christ to commemorate Jesus' death and ressurection, but you will note that there is no such Roman "Eucharist"/transubs tantiation EVER taught in association with the Lord's Supper/Communion.

depart from Babylon/Rome while you still can....
Religion - A Delusion

Titusville, FL

#434607 Apr 22, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
My guess is, the Atheist would say, "Why do you preach words from a bible at me when you already know that I can read?
And by the way, thank you for placing a capital letter on the word Atheist.
How can you be sure there us no higher power behind the Universe?

Do you not allow for even the possibility?

Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#434608 Apr 22, 2013
During the 1950's there was a lot of discussion about birth control and the rhythm method etc.
This prompted a letter to the editor of a magazine:

Sirs,

Why all this talk of birth control,
Let's leave rhythm to rock and roll,
The H-bomb promises liquidation,
Small worry then is procreation
Let's temper our fear of birth statistics
With a glance at missiles and their ballistics.
Clay

Saint Paul, MN

#434609 Apr 22, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
I meant that the attitude of the Atheist would be "You have some nerve, preaching at me, when you know that I AM an Atheist, I can read, but choose not to read the bible."
I can read the Bible too, and sometimes I do. Usually at night.
Reading the Bible and studying it is one thing. Catholicism is putting those teachings into motion. Its bringing the Bible to life.
I don't think any other religion views theirs that way. The Apostle never handed out their writings and walked away; without explaining it. Catholicism is those writings as taught from their mouths.
I know Atheism is not believing, period. So it really doesn't make a difference to you guys how it all came about. But I thought I would make it clear that the Bible is not to be interpreted like the new evangelical protestants say it is. I believe they mean well, but the create too many Atheist by preaching things about the Holy Scriptures that Christ never wanted.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#434610 Apr 22, 2013
who="Clay"
What do you say to the Atheist that might say something like this:
"How come you preach the Bible as the foundation of Christianity, when Jesus never did and His Apostles never did?
Why does your Bible only have 66 Books but the Catholic has 73. Who determined what should be 'the Bible'?
How come you preach something different about the Bible then what the first Christians understood?
Why do you reject the science that shows the Earth being millions of yrs old?
How come you continuously accuse Catholics of Idolatry when they explained to you that they do not?
If you're going to claim to be specially called by God to preach the Bible, then you can't run from these questions. Are you legit or are you a fraud?
**********

The Bible IS the foundation of Christianity. Jesus referred to the O.T. scriptures often...explaining to the Apostles how that prophecy was being fulfilled in Him. He declared to satan's temptation that "It is WRITTEN". He trusted the scriptures; why shouldn't I?

Science is a STUDY FOR TRUTH; not a factual revelation.

Catholics claim that they do not worship statues...even while they are in the act. What you do is more important than what you say.

What I preach comes from the WORDS OF THE APOSTLES. You can't get more authentic...

Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#434611 Apr 22, 2013
Religion - A Delusion wrote:
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How can you be sure there us no higher power behind the Universe?
Do you not allow for even the possibility?
I don't believe in the existence of a creator, but I leave the idea open that there's always more to learn.

James Randi is an absolute skeptic who leaves nothing to imagination. I don't want to be THAT rigid, because then I won't be open to new ideas whatsoever.

Just because I believe something, doesn't make what I believe into absolute truth. Maybe absolute truth doesn't even exist. I don't know.

“let's do this thang!”

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#434612 Apr 22, 2013
Cathy the Catholic says:

every truly good Catholic should prove their faith and trust in the One True Holy Roman Church by giving their children to the priests for sleep-overs and extensive & unsupervised visits.

i personally know some good catholics who did and paid a price, but they're still very devout catholics (maybe not such great parents tho)!
Clay

Saint Paul, MN

#434613 Apr 22, 2013
waaasssuuup wrote:
<quoted text>
i can agree that the 'breaking of bread' is a Christ ordained tradition for the Church/Body of Christ to commemorate Jesus' death and ressurection, but you will note that there is no such Roman "Eucharist"/transubs tantiation EVER taught in association with the Lord's Supper/Communion.
depart from Babylon/Rome while you still can....
I would disagree. There is a pile of evidence from writings that clearly show what people were taught about the 'breaking of the bread' and it has nothing to do with Rome.
Religion - A Delusion

Titusville, FL

#434614 Apr 22, 2013
Clay wrote:
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God doesn't send anyone to Hell. We send ourselves there. He still loves those souls but respects their decision to be separate from Him.
And that's EXACTLY what would happen if God did an interview tonight on CNN. People would say, "whoa, God is real!, but I reject what he's saying"
Eternal Hell is separation from the love of God by our own decision. Fire. Torture. Pain, are adjectives to describe what it would be like without God- who IS Love.
How do I "send myself to hell?" By rejecting your imaginary god?

You are in effect saying that 90% to 95% of humanity send themselves to Hell, and your god somehow loves them but has no choice.

Next -- "God is real but I reject what he's saying." Sir, are you being serious? Please explain any of this in more detail. I have never heard theology like that.

Lastly, your definition of Hell is completely different from what your church taught perfectly for over 1500 years. Touchy, feely New Age stuff. You seem to be saying Our Lady of Fatima is a liar, as were numerous Saints and even Popes who described Hell.

This all sounds outside of traditional catholic teachings. Bizarre even, so maybe you can expound.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#434615 Apr 22, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
Meant as humor
I wonder what will happen to those in religion when they cross the border from one life into another and find out that their gods are still invisible?
Humans created the gods as invisible entities, so what can they expect in the future other than invisible entities?
I believe that expecting to see what was originally created as invisible is expecting too much out of nothing.
~~~~

WHAT ABOUT YOUR RELIGION..

THE EPITAPH ON THE TOMB STONE OF A CONFIRMED ATHEIST...

"Here lies the body of uncle Joe, all dressed up, but no place to go.."
truth

Perth, Australia

#434616 Apr 22, 2013
Atheist diploma have result ..24 hour human mind work even when your body sleep..your biological o'clock within you have time ...mental..yes..why don't you explain correctly..impact over mind which you call mental..wicket satanic way..how you call that superstition..forgive me but you need be correct with your explanation toward ordinary to become extraordinary.

Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#434617 Apr 22, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
I can read the Bible too, and sometimes I do. Usually at night.
Reading the Bible and studying it is one thing. Catholicism is putting those teachings into motion. Its bringing the Bible to life.
Your opinion is for you and it no doubt makes you feel powerful to believe you know answers, but I suggest you question that when other people have opinions that differ from yours, they also believe they have the answers.

That attitude will humble you somewhat.

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