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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 683837 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#434464 Apr 21, 2013
Religion - A Delusion wrote:
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True.
It's delusional to believe that the creator of mankind could get so angry at, jealous of, and yes - envious of its own creation.
It's even more delusional to blame the created, while appeasing the creator.
History tells us that all gods are imaginary, thank god.
I brought what I just posted on another thread over here in hopes that these Christians will understand how theologians manipulated and continue to manipulate religion to suit their own agendas.
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The founding father of Paganism (Gerald Gardner) was from the ancient belief that homosexuality was offensive to all the divine Pagan entities ... so his theology suited that old-hat part of his spiffy new religion.

But when the hippy era took hold, people who were living the fast lives of sexual orgies as being acceptable, didn't appreciate a goddess that cursed homosexuality. So at the appropriate time, in the early 60s, along came bi-sexual Alex Sanders. He insisted that the goddess "loves" homosexuals, etc. My guess is, had the goddess existed, it would have been quite the surprise to her.

And if you care to notice, Alex was interested in his new religion of serving the MEN. There is no mention of lesbianism.
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Alexandrian Wicca (1963-1973)

In 1973, Alex and Maxine separated, but both continued to practice the craft. One of the key reasons for their separation was that neither would compromise on Alex's bisexuality. After the divorce, Alex focused on formulating Wicca so that it could be followed by homosexual men, who had been partially prevented from involvement previously because of the religions' focus on gender polarity.
truth

Australia

#434465 Apr 21, 2013
Which God please explain?
Why?
Because many live Godly life!
truth

Australia

#434466 Apr 21, 2013
You still not tell me where is first Eden..as well why we are here in this life as real Creator purpose?
now

He created us on own image!
Why you call us creature?
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#434467 Apr 21, 2013
zander714 wrote:
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Very true, and interesting.
When Hitler came to full-power, the nation was what Hitler practised, and that was to kill every body, regardless of nationality or religion that he perceived was a threat.

The popes governed by the same "token."

“I am now as before a Catholic and will always remain so”
[Adolph Hitler, to Gen. Gerhard Engel, 1941]
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#434468 Apr 21, 2013
“Any violence which does not spring from a spiritual base, will be wavering and uncertain. It lacks the stability which can only rest in
a fanatical outlook.”

[Adolph Hitler,_Mein Kampf_, p. 171]
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#434469 Apr 21, 2013
I suggest that you never trust religious words interpreted by any theologian ... and that you realize that when you go to those words in your bible and believe you have found truth IN the words ... that you proclaim to be as much a theologian as Gerald Gardner, Alex Sanders, the popes and Luther put together in what you believe is one NEAT package.

Don't fool your selves as did all those arrogant misguided blowhards.

We won't know what happens UNTIL it happens ... period.

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#434470 Apr 21, 2013
413
Religion - A Delusion wrote:
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If the infant was born to a Hindu family and died with original sin, why would any wise and just God treat that child with less love?
What does your sense of justice tell you?
What does the Bible imply?
FYI....you cannot answer questions with questions!!!!!
Pad

Fishers, IN

#434471 Apr 21, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
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I'm more than content to be left out of all religious cults.
Youmight as well June,because you do not know the difference between the different counterfeits. If your were bent on destroying an enemy,and you could not always use force,what tactics would you use?

How about if you knew that your arch ENEMY was going to form a certain plan down the road that would sway millions to follow them and not you,would you consider using counterfeits?
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#434472 Apr 21, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
413
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FYI....you cannot answer questions with questions!!!!!
Neither can you answer what remain mysteries with answers.

Questions concerning mysteries are always honest. Supposed answers to mysteries are always based on guessing-games often taught to believers as absolute truths. And that has lead many believers down paths that many probably wished they had never trod.

The following was one such man.
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From “The Americans, A social history of the United States, 1587-1914,” comes the following,(exactly as written)… Samuel Sewall had the misfortune to be an ad hoc judge in some of the Salem witch trials. Soon afterward his baby daughter died. A consoling friend asked to read from the Bible struck on Matthew 12:7:“but if ye had known what this meaneth … ye would not have condemned the guiltless.” This chance text, it seemed to his conscience, maybe already uneasy about the goings on at Salem, could mean only that the verdicts had been mistaken.
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#434473 Apr 21, 2013
Pad wrote:
<quoted text>Youmight as well June,because you do not know the difference between the different counterfeits.
OH WAIT ... let me guess. Your belief is NOT counterfeit ... RIGHT???

:)
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#434474 Apr 21, 2013
Pad wrote:
<quoted text>How about if you knew that your arch ENEMY was going to form a certain plan down the road that would sway millions to follow them and not you,would you consider using counterfeits?
I'd lie through my teeth, and if I found it necessary to gain some followers I might even lie by preaching that a god commanded "US" to follow the god's will.

It's called survival ... but such behavior is not honest and from my perspective it is not based on any semblance of truth.
Pad

Fishers, IN

#434475 Apr 21, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
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When Hitler came to full-power, the nation was what Hitler practised, and that was to kill every body, regardless of nationality or religion that he perceived was a threat.
The popes governed by the same "token."
“I am now as before a Catholic and will always remain so”
[Adolph Hitler, to Gen. Gerhard Engel, 1941]
We all have the resources available to us JUNE,to make decisions.The extent of the fact that we all have a free will,even more so determines the type of decision made,and accordingly to the personality.

Look at last week.What a terrible time for so many people who would not have planned the outcome of what transpired.

Two young good looking men,with so much at their disposal decided to take life into their own hands.They lived amongst so many types of people,worked,studied,involved in sports,trained in physical competition,one was married with a precious no doubt 3 yr old daughter.Decisions were being made by these two to follow through on a long planned trek to cause havoc.

Just the fact that they had weapons of a sizable destruction,and the manufacturing of homemade bombs,which they could set off with I-phones,suggests that it was not impromptu,but organized planning,perhaps even rehearsed.The money they needed to pull it off had to come from some greater source.But we will let the FBI discover the roots of that.

Nevertheless the two brothers followed a series of decisions,from purchasing the weapons,building the bombs,finding all the elements to carry out their carnage,YET,continuing to go to school,mix in with ordinary people like themselves,and most of all to FIT IN as it were fully immersed in the culture they have lived in for ten years or so.

They had to plan what event to disjoint,and how and when to enter the scene themselves at their own risk.All of these things took time,planning and a constant decision each day to pull it off,stay with the plan,not give up their purposeful agenda.Self,and personal desire had to be either promoted or disembowed as it were.

If rationale thinking entered in,they had to fight it,a decision to choose a vicious irrational act of violence over the natural intuition to abandon the whole scheme.

Oh that we all make decisions each day of our lives,not knowing ultimately that one decision might not be the best,and that it could invite poverty at our door step. Both young men quickly after their participation to destroy others,are on the threshold of eternity.ONE already is gone(do you believe he will not give an accounting at all?) Tamarlin fought the one morning with police,did he surrender and ask for forgiveness,NO he fought to the death.

Now Dzohar is lying in bed,what is going through, his mind,is he regretting his actions? Who knows,perhaps he is to physically distraught right now to consider anything but sleeping,and breathing.

If the 19 year old dies will he have been able to account for his actions at all? Do you consider JUNE that the time in the hospital bed,suffering the wounds, are his punishment for what he did?

Sorry,but there is too much we humans cannot bear as being our own justice for uncontrolable mayhem.People die as a result to their actions,and here on earth we do not know whether or not the complete accounting is deemed.

We are limited no matter how we look at it.We cannot fully account for what we have done here on this earth,never,we have no idea what bad behavior wreaks both in this life and the next.The person who chooses to do evil takes on something much much bigger than themselves and all others around them.
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#434476 Apr 21, 2013
Religious myths are probably as old as the first men that created the myths.
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A History of Religious Ideas, by Mircea Eliade.

Tibetan Religions

The mountains are assimilated to the ladder or the mu rope of the first ancestor who descended to earth. The royal tombs are called “mountains.

Just as the sacred mountain—the “god of the land”—is identified with the mu ladder that connects Heaven to Earth, so in the human body one of the protector gods, and precisely the one called “god of the land,” is found on the top of the head, where the mu rope is attached (the “warrior god” and the “man god” reside on the shoulders). The mu ladder is called the “ladder of the wind.”
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#434477 Apr 21, 2013
The idea that a perfect creator would create anything imperfect would be ludicrous. The very idea would not be possible.

I suggest that you pay heed to the non-human animals that must die each moment of every day and night by being injected with venom, being chewed to death by sharp teeth, as the claws sink into their flesh, etc.... and then look me in the eyes and insist that your suppose deity is proud of what was created.

From my perspective, religion is nonsense ... period.
Clay

Garden City, MI

#434478 Apr 21, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
From my perspective, religion is nonsense ... period.
Really? I wasn't sure where you stood on God and religion.. thanks! ;-)
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#434479 Apr 21, 2013
Humans have habits of being copy-cats.

The data in the bible wasn't compiled until the fourth century.

With all the many Christian sects involved in the gossip, can you imagine the stories that were taught in all different flavors as being based on certain truth during that span of time?
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From the book “Chronology of Women’s History,” by Kirstin Olsen, comes the following……….

100—1 B.C.

Religion

4 Mary gives birth to Jesus in Judaea
Michael

Canada

#434480 Apr 21, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
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We believe this child is a blessing from God, not some kind of punishment.
If all your daughters Anthony had down syndrome you would consider that a blessing from God? Why?
Why would any God create something that looks like this below? For what purpose?
http://animals.nationalgeographic.com/animals...
People/animals are born with all kinds of quirks. Two heads, 6 toes, 3 legs, dwarfs, giants, all blessings from God, you say.
Its all the things gone wrong in nature Anthony.
Michael

Canada

#434481 Apr 21, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
The idea that a perfect creator would create anything imperfect would be ludicrous. The very idea would not be possible.
I suggest that you pay heed to the non-human animals that must die each moment of every day and night by being injected with venom, being chewed to death by sharp teeth, as the claws sink into their flesh, etc.... and then look me in the eyes and insist that your suppose deity is proud of what was created.
From my perspective, religion is nonsense ... period.
Why would God create something that looks like this? For what purpose? For us to make fun of?

http://animals.nationalgeographic.com/animals...

We are all children of nature. Sometimes nature doesn't get it right.

Why would any God create this below....for what upside purpose!

Garlic man

Troy, OH

#434482 Apr 21, 2013
MICHAEL wrote:
The catholic clergy teach the followers that love, and marriage is key to happiness, yet the clergy themselves demand they! live a singular life.
Does anyone with any common sense believe any God would create men more worthy then women?
I can't believe today that any catholic woman doesn't feel slighted that they are less worthy to be in any! positions of authority in the roman catholic church.
makes no common sense!
Miguelito,
Who believes God would create men more worthy than women? Oh, that's right, you do! Well, just because YOU believe that fallacy, doesn't mean that's how the Catholic Church sees women.
Miguelito, men and women are created equal; that means, they are both created in the image and likeness of God and thus have equal dignity before God. However, they are not identical, otherwise they would not be able to complement each other as it is obvious they do. It is the secular world who says that in order for women to have any value in society, they have to behave and be like men in all aspects, including their physiology. Why do you think women have to resort to chemical neutering if they want to remain in the work force in the secular world? Why not allow them to be the women that they are, whose bodies are designed to carry new life? Honestly, this is pure discrimination of women by men.
The Catholic Church cannot change the fact that only men can be priests and the reason is because her founder, Jesus Christ, wanted it that way. End of story.
BTW, how is your garlic intake going?
Clay

Garden City, MI

#434483 Apr 21, 2013
Religion - A Delusion wrote:
<quoted text>
True.
It's delusional to believe that the creator of mankind could get so angry at, jealous of, and yes - envious of its own creation.
It's even more delusional to blame the created, while appeasing the creator.
History tells us that all gods are imaginary, thank god.
I don't think I would word it that way. God never stops loving - even the souls in Hell He loves.
People reject God, He doesn't reject us. We choose whether or not we want to love Him back.

Do you have children? Do you want to force them to love you as much as you love them? Or do you want them to make a decision on their own accord. It means so much more to us when someone genuinely loves us back and not because 'they have to'.

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