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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 693160 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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LTM

Marathon, Canada

#432409 Apr 13, 2013
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First miracle:(John 2:1-11)– It is fitting that John’s gospel is the only one that records Jesus’ first miracle. John’s account of the life of Christ has as its theme and purpose to reveal the deity of Christ. Surely, this first miracle of creating something from nothing proves that Jesus was God in flesh, the Creator, through whom all things came to be (John 1:30). Only God can create something from what does not exist, in this case, wine from water. This event shows His divine power over the elements of the earth, the same power that would be revealed again in many more miracles of healing and the control of the elements such as wind and the sea. John goes on to tell us that this first miracle had two outcomes—the glory of Christ was manifest and the disciples believed on Him (John 2:11). The divine, glorified nature of Christ was hidden when He assumed human form, but in instances such as this miracle, His true nature burst forth and was made manifest to all who had eyes to see (Matthew 13:16). The disciples always believed in Jesus, but the miracles helped to strengthen their faith and prepare them for the difficult times that lay ahead of them.

Sermon on the Mount:(Matthew 5:1-7:29)– Perhaps the most famous sermon of all time was preached by Jesus to His disciples early in His public ministry. Many memorable phrases that we know today came from this sermon, including “blessed are the meek for they shall inherit the earth,”“salt of the earth,”“an eye for an eye,”“the lilies of the field,”“ask and you will receive,” and “wolves in sheep’s clothing,” as well as the concepts of going the extra mile, turning the other cheek, and the left hand not knowing what the right hand is doing. Also in the sermon is the Lord’s Prayer. Most importantly, though, the Sermon on the Mount dealt a devastating blow to the Pharisees and their religion of works-righteousness. By expounding the spirit of the law and not just the letter of it, Jesus left no doubt that legalism is of no avail for salvation and that, in fact, the demands of the law are humanly impossible to meet. He ends the sermon with a call to true faith for salvation and a warning that the way to that salvation is narrow and few find it.
LTM

Marathon, Canada

#432410 Apr 13, 2013
"What were the key events in the life of Jesus Christ?"

Answer: The following are the key events in the life of Christ and the Bible books where each is described:(Part 2)

Feeding of the 5000:(Matthew 14:15-21; Mark 6:34-44; Luke 9:12-17; John 6:5-13)– We learn several important lessons from this miraculous event. As with the miracle of the water and wine at Cana, we see Jesus’ absolute power over the elements of nature. Only God can create something from nothing and from five small loaves and two fish, Jesus created enough food to feed many more than 5,000 people. The Gospels tell us there were 5,000 men present, but Matthew adds that there were women and children there besides. Estimates of the crowd are as high as 20,000. But our God is a God of abundant provision, and little is much in the hands of the Lord. A poignant lesson is learned by seeing that before He multiplied the loaves and fishes, Jesus commanded the multitude to sit down. This is a beautiful picture of the power of God to accomplish what we cannot, while we rest in Him. There was nothing the people could do to feed themselves; only He could do that. They had only a pittance, but in God’s hands it became a feast that was not only sufficient—it was bountiful.

Transfiguration:(Matthew 17:1-8; Mark 9:2-8; Luke 9:26-36)– This event is referred to as the “Transfiguration,” meaning “a change in form,” because Jesus was changed before the eyes of Peter, James and John into a reflection of His true nature. His divine glory radiated from Him, changing His face and clothing in such a way that the gospel writers had trouble relating it. Just as the Apostle John used many metaphors to describe what he saw in the visions of Revelation, so, too, did Matthew, Mark and Luke have to resort to images like “lightning,”“the sun” and “light” to describe Jesus’ appearance. Truly, it was other-worldly. The appearance of Moses and Elijah to converse with Jesus shows us two things. First, the two men represent the Law and the Prophets, both of which foretold Jesus’ coming and His death. Second, the fact that they talked about His upcoming death in Jerusalem (Luke 9:31) shows their foreknowledge of these events and the sovereign plan of God that was unfolding just as He had foreordained. God spoke from heaven and commanded the disciples to “Hear Him!” thereby stating that Jesus, not Moses and Elijah, now had the power and authority to command them.

Raising of Lazarus:(John 11:1-44)– Lazarus, the brother of Mary and Martha of Bethany, was a personal friend of Jesus, which is why Jesus was sent for by the family when Lazarus was sick. Jesus delayed several days before going to Bethany, knowing that Lazarus would be dead long enough by then to verify this amazing display of divine power. Only God has the power over life and death, and by raising Lazarus from the grave, Jesus was reiterating His authority as God and His supremacy over death. Through this incident, the Son of God would be glorified in an unmistakable way. As with many other miracles and incidents, one of the goals was that the disciples—and we—“may believe.” Jesus is who He said He was and this most astounding of His miracles testifies to that fact. Jesus told Martha,“I am the resurrection and the life”(v. 25) and asked her if she believed what He was saying. This is the basis of the Christian life. We believe that Jesus is the very power of resurrection, and we trust in Him to give us eternal life through that power. We are buried with Him and raised by His authority over death. Only through His power can we be truly saved.

CONT
LTM

Marathon, Canada

#432411 Apr 13, 2013
CONT
Triumphal entry:(Matthew 21:1–11, 14–17; Mark 11:1–11; Luke 19:29–44; John 12:12–19)— Jesus’ triumphal entry into Jerusalem the week before the crucifixion is the basis of what is known as Palm Sunday. The multitudes who greeted Him laid palm branches in the road for Him, but their worship of Him was short-lived. In just a few days, these same crowds would be calling for His death, shouting “Crucify! Crucify!”(Matthew 27:22-23). But as He rode into Jerusalem on the back of a donkey’s colt—signifying His lowliness and humble state—He received the adoration of the crowd and their acknowledgement of His messianic claim. Even the little children welcomed Him, demonstrating that they knew what the Jewish leaders did not, that Jesus was the Messiah. Jesus’ entry into Jerusalem fulfilled the Old Testament prophecy of Zechariah repeated in John 12:15:“See, your king is coming, seated on a donkey's colt.”
LTM

Marathon, Canada

#432412 Apr 13, 2013
"What were the key events in the life of Jesus Christ?"

Answer: The following are the key events in the life of Christ and the Bible books where each is described:(Part 3)

Last Supper:(Matthew 26:1-29; Mark 14:12-25; Luke 22:7-20; John 13:1-38)– This poignant last meeting with His disciples, whom He loved, begins with an object lesson from Jesus. The disciples had been arguing about who among them was the greatest (Luke 22:24), displaying their distinctly ungodly perspective. Jesus quietly rose and began to wash their feet, a task normally performed by the lowest, most menial slave. By this simple act, He reminded them that His followers are those who serve one another, not those who expect to be served. He went on to explain that unless the Lamb of God cleanses a person’s sin, that person will never be clean:“Unless I wash you, you have no part with me”(John 13:8). During the Last Supper, Jesus also identifies the traitor, Judas, who would betray Him to the authorities and bring about His arrest. It is indicative of the disciples’ weak faith that each of them considered the possibility that he himself might be the traitor. But Jesus confirmed that it was none other than Judas, whom He instructed to leave and do quickly what he had to do. After Judas’ departure, Jesus instituted the New Covenant in His blood, a new command that those who follow Him are to love one another and live by the power of the Holy Spirit. We remember this act each time we enter into the Christian ordinance of communion, celebrating Christ’s body which was broken for us and His blood, which was shed for us.

Arrest at Gethsemane:(Matthew 26:36-56; Mark 14:32-50; Luke 22:39-54; John 18:1-12)– After the Last Supper, Jesus led the disciples to the garden of Gethsemane , where several things took place. Jesus separated Himself from them in order to pray, asking them to watch and pray as well. But several times He returned to find them sleeping, overcome with fatigue and grief at the prospect of losing Him. As Jesus prayed, He asked the Father to remove the cup of wrath He was about to drink when God poured out on Him the punishment for the sins of the world. But, as in all things, Jesus submitted to the will of His Father and began to prepare for His death, strengthened by an angel sent to minister to Him in His last hours. Judas arrived with a multitude and identified Jesus with a kiss, and Jesus was arrested and taken to Caiaphas for the first of a series of mock trials.

Crucifixion and burial:(Matthew 27:27-66; Mark 15:16-47; Luke 23:26-56; John 19:17-42)– The death of Jesus on the cross was the culmination of His ministry on earth. It is the reason He was born as a man—to die for the sins of the world so that those who believe in Him would not perish, but have everlasting life (John 3:16). After being found innocent of all charges against Him, Jesus was nevertheless handed over to the Romans to be crucified. The events of that day are recorded as including His seven last sayings, the mocking and taunting by the soldiers and the crowd, the casting of lots among the soldiers for His clothing, and three hours of darkness. At the moment Jesus gave up His spirit, there was an earthquake and a resurrection of some of the believers who had died. At that moment, the huge, heavy curtain separating the Holy of Holies from the rest of the temple was torn from top to bottom, signifying that access to God was now open to all who believe in Jesus. The body of Jesus was taken down from the cross, laid in a borrowed tomb, and left until after the Sabbath. When women came to prepare the body for burial, they found the tomb empty. Jesus had risen from the dead in His glorified state and would appear to many to prove that death had no hold over Him.

CNT
LTM

Marathon, Canada

#432413 Apr 13, 2013
CONT
Post-resurrection appearances:(Matthew 28:1-20; Mark 16:1-20; Luke 24:1-53; John 20:1-21:25; Acts 1:3; 1 Corinthians 15:6)– During the forty days between the crucifixion and His ascension, Jesus appeared several times to 500 of His disciples and others. He first appeared to the women near the tomb who came to prepare His body for burial, then to Mary Magdalene, to whom He declared that He had not yet ascended to the Father. He walked through a wall and appeared to the disciples in Jerusalem where “doubting Thomas” was given proof and again in Galilee where they saw another miracle. Though they had fished all night and caught nothing, Jesus told them to lower their nets one more time, and their nets were filled with fish. Jesus cooked breakfast for them and taught them many important truths. Peter was told to feed the Lord’s sheep and was told the manner of death he would suffer. At this time, they also received the Great Commission. Jesus appeared again to two men on the road to Emmaus and, as He ate with them and talked with them, they recognized Him. The men returned to Jerusalem, found the disciples, and testified of their encounter with Jesus.

Ascension:(Mark 16:19-20; Luke 24:50-53; Acts 1:9-12)– Jesus’ final act on earth was His ascension into heaven in the presence of the disciples. He was taken up in a cloud which hid Him from their view, but two angels came to tell them that He would return one day in a similar manner. For now, Jesus sits at the right hand of His Father in heaven. The act of sitting down signifies that His work is done, as He affirmed before dying on the cross when He said,“It is finished.” There is nothing more to be done to secure the salvation of those who believe in Him. His life on earth is over, the price is paid, the victory is won and death itself has been defeated. Hallelujah!

“Jesus did many other things as well. If every one of them were written down, I suppose that even the whole world would not have room for the books that would be written”(John 21:25).

Since: Mar 13

Location hidden

#432414 Apr 13, 2013
youtube wrote:
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100% PROOF Pope Francis is ANTICHRIST_______
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =moaXuWJryu8XX
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Stanley says "yeah"....

...and you're the Czar of Russia.

Go Figure.
hojo

Minneapolis, MN

#432415 Apr 13, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
853
<quoted text>
AND:
"church" as used in the NT...is defined as: a calling out, i.e.(concretely) a popular meeting, especially a religious congregation (Jewish synagogue, or Christian community of members on earth or saints in heaven or both):--assembly, church.
"Catholic" is not one of its definitions!!!!!!
Catholics....like Protestants are denominations.....as in: A large group of religious congregations united under a common faith and name and organized under a single administrative and legal hierarchy.
HOGWASH: Your comments are just more bible only Protestant-- false and erroneous (made-up) "nonsense" which has no support from the patrists, medivals, apologists or ANY Christian historical teachings for that matter for the first 1500 years of the Church. Your analysis demonstrates a "total" lack of understanding of the Greek language and translation of the bible, There is not one medival historian that agrees ANYTHING that you have said: First of all--the Greek word for Church in the New Testament is "ecclesia" which refers to a visible, heirarchical, authoiritative Church, not an invisible ethereal body of believers loosely connected by faith in the bible alone. This is "clearly confirmed" in Acts 2 when Paul refers to the 1st Church at Antioch, headed by the Apostles, with Bishops, priests, deacons and elders. Secondly, the word "Catholic" means and refers to Universal (One and only One Church) that Jesus inititated, formed and established. Denominations began at the time of the Reformation with Protestantism (an island onto itself) that has "absolutely no connection to the Catholic Church. Protestantism--within itself has over 42,000 conflicting and contradicting "DENOMINATIONS" (Lutheran, Baptist, Methodist, Presbyterian and on and on ALL branches of the Protestant Churches and the Protestant Reformation ---AND the Catholic Church has "no connection" to ANY OF THEM and is not one of them. 42,000 independent Protestant "personal opinionated (separate islands) unto themselves each one "editorializing the interpretation of the bible. Try studying TRUE and AUTHENTICATED CHURCH HISTORY instead of relying upon your "fictitious "make it up" as you go along Protestant Church History that are as contradicting and heretical as your 42,000 inconsistent "DENOMINATIONS"!!
socci

Plattsburg, MO

#432416 Apr 13, 2013
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
HOGWASH: Your comments are just more bible only Protestant-- false and erroneous (made-up) "nonsense" which has no support from the patrists, medivals, apologists or ANY Christian historical teachings for that matter for the first 1500 years of the Church. Your analysis demonstrates a "total" lack of understanding of the Greek language and translation of the bible, There is not one medival historian that agrees ANYTHING that you have said: First of all--the Greek word for Church in the New Testament is "ecclesia" which refers to a visible, heirarchical, authoiritative Church, not an invisible ethereal body of believers loosely connected by faith in the bible alone. This is "clearly confirmed" in Acts 2 when Paul refers to the 1st Church at Antioch, headed by the Apostles, with Bishops, priests, deacons and elders. Secondly, the word "Catholic" means and refers to Universal (One and only One Church) that Jesus inititated, formed and established. Denominations began at the time of the Reformation with Protestantism (an island onto itself) that has "absolutely no connection to the Catholic Church. Protestantism--within itself has over 42,000 conflicting and contradicting "DENOMINATIONS" (Lutheran, Baptist, Methodist, Presbyterian and on and on ALL branches of the Protestant Churches and the Protestant Reformation ---AND the Catholic Church has "no connection" to ANY OF THEM and is not one of them. 42,000 independent Protestant "personal opinionated (separate islands) unto themselves each one "editorializing the interpretation of the bible. Try studying TRUE and AUTHENTICATED CHURCH HISTORY instead of relying upon your "fictitious "make it up" as you go along Protestant Church History that are as contradicting and heretical as your 42,000 inconsistent "DENOMINATIONS"!!

1 billion Protestant denominations - it matters not. Each have their own personal relationship with Jesus as they understand the Bible. Each are at a different level of understanding, just as you are. The RC & Pope has no part in this. No usurpt authority.

“YESHUA IS LORD”

Since: Apr 07

GAWGIA (GEORGIA)

#432417 Apr 13, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
~~~
While I believe that the earth as we know it is a recreation.
There is some evidence in Genesis that it is.
What you have posted above is only a theory and supposition.
When you challenge others with supposition assumptions, and theory's
What makes you any different than the Roman Catholics?
If you cannot give Book Chapter, and verse to prove, what your post,
the least you can do is admit that you have no evidence in the Bible to
substantiate what you have written...
ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU GO INTO A TIRADE OF NAME CALLING.
I do not believe in evolution nor the big bang theory...
I believe the Bible as it is written, and I agree (in theory) with most
of what you have posted...but it is only theory...
Well sonny, I have have given verse and chapter to prove what I stated. It's not my fault that when I give the scriptural proof some are too Biblically Illiterate to comprehend those verses. For example,I could give Biblical proof that Adam was NOT Cains father but that proof would be way beyond most of these people's comprehension because of how their minds have been corrupted by preachers and teachers in their past that are just as biblically illiterate as the ones that they are teaching. Now take that the wrong way. I'm not trying to insult anyone but the truth is the truth. Is it my fault that when I give scriptural proof that they cannot comprehend that proof?

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#432418 Apr 13, 2013
Question for all Catholics.....

The total number of Christians martyred in the early church is unknown. Although some early writers speak of "great multitudes," modern scholars tend to believe the actual number is not so great as is sometimes imagined. Out of the 54 emperors who ruled between 30 and 311 AD, only about a dozen went out of their way to persecute Christians.

It has been calculated that between the first persecution under Nero in 64 to the Edict of Milan in 313, Christians experienced 129 years of persecution and 120 years of toleration and peace.

The Roman persecutions were generally sporadic, localized, and dependent on the political climate and disposition of each emperor. Moreover, imperial decrees against Christians were often directed against church property, the Scriptures, or clergy only. It has been estimated that more Christians have been martyred in the last 50 years than in the church's first 300 years.

QUESTION: If the Catholic church was founded by Christ, why does history show persecution of Christians...and not one Catholic!!!!!
OldJG

Rockford, IL

#432419 Apr 13, 2013
OldJG wrote:
<quoted text>
The word vicar comes from the Latin word vicarius meaning substitution. The on-line version of the Pocket Catholic Dictionary by John A. Hardon, S.J. defines the Vicar of Christ as,“The Pope, visible head of the Church on earth, acting for and in the place of Christ. He possesses supreme ecclesiastical authority in the Catholic Church...”
Anthony MN wrote:
<quoted text>
The pope is not the successor of Christ. He is the visible head of Christ's Church on earth.
Not my words. This information was provided by your cult dictionary.

“YESHUA IS LORD”

Since: Apr 07

GAWGIA (GEORGIA)

#432420 Apr 13, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
~~~
While I believe that the earth as we know it is a recreation.
There is some evidence in Genesis that it is.
What you have posted above is only a theory and supposition.
When you challenge others with supposition assumptions, and theory's
What makes you any different than the Roman Catholics?
If you cannot give Book Chapter, and verse to prove, what your post,
the least you can do is admit that you have no evidence in the Bible to
substantiate what you have written...
ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU GO INTO A TIRADE OF NAME CALLING.
I do not believe in evolution nor the big bang theory...
I believe the Bible as it is written, and I agree (in theory) with most
of what you have posted...but it is only theory...
One more thing. Unless one accurately comprehends the FIRST SIX CHAPTERS OF THE BOOK OF GENESIS,there is NO WAY they are gonna be able to ACCURATELY fit the rest of the Bible together for it is on the first 6 chapters of Genesis that the rest of the Bible hinges.
OldJG

Rockford, IL

#432421 Apr 13, 2013
Tony17 wrote:
<quoted text>Well sonny, I have have given verse and chapter to prove what I stated. It's not my fault that when I give the scriptural proof some are too Biblically Illiterate to comprehend those verses. For example,I could give Biblical proof that Adam was NOT Cains father but that proof would be way beyond most of these people's comprehension because of how their minds have been corrupted by preachers and teachers in their past that are just as biblically illiterate as the ones that they are teaching. Now take that the wrong way. I'm not trying to insult anyone but the truth is the truth. Is it my fault that when I give scriptural proof that they cannot comprehend that proof?
Really? And you have, what, divine revelation? Well let's get started. Provide BIBLICAL proof Adam was not Cain's father. I'll be here when you try to wash the egg off your face.

“YESHUA IS LORD”

Since: Apr 07

GAWGIA (GEORGIA)

#432422 Apr 13, 2013
If you comprehend the following concerning creation then you should be able to grasp the rest of the Bible.......... ACCURATELY.

http://biblestudysite.com/creation.htm
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#432423 Apr 13, 2013
Tony17 wrote:
If you comprehend the following concerning creation then you should be able to grasp the rest of the Bible.......... ACCURATELY.
http://biblestudysite.com/creation.htm
The old testament is the complete will of Jehovah. His Jews were his chosen few ... end of story.

:)
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#432424 Apr 13, 2013
Tony17 wrote:
<quoted text>One more thing. Unless one accurately comprehends the FIRST SIX CHAPTERS OF THE BOOK OF GENESIS,there is NO WAY they are gonna be able to ACCURATELY fit the rest of the Bible together for it is on the first 6 chapters of Genesis that the rest of the Bible hinges.
Did you know that when Adam had sex with Eve, he committed incest with his own rib?

:)
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#432425 Apr 13, 2013
Great Fire of Rome

According to Tacitus, the population searched for a scapegoat and rumors held Nero responsible.[83] To deflect blame, Nero targeted Christians. He ordered Christians to be thrown to dogs, while others were crucified and burned.[83]

Tacitus described the event:

“Consequently, to get rid of the report, Nero fastened the guilt and inflicted the most exquisite tortures on a class hated for their abominations, called Christians [or Chrestians[93]] by the populace. Christus, from whom the name had its origin, suffered the extreme penalty during the reign of Tiberius at the hands of one of our procurators, Pontius Pilatus, and a most mischievous superstition, thus checked for the moment, again broke out not only in Judaea, the first source of the evil, but even in Rome, where all things hideous and shameful from every part of the world find their centre and become popular.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nero#Physical_ap...
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#432426 Apr 13, 2013
Tony17 wrote:
<quoted text>Well sonny, I have have given verse and chapter to prove what I stated. It's not my fault that when I give the scriptural proof some are too Biblically Illiterate to comprehend those verses. For example,I could give Biblical proof that Adam was NOT Cains father but that proof would be way beyond most of these people's comprehension because of how their minds have been corrupted by preachers and teachers in their past that are just as biblically illiterate as the ones that they are teaching. Now take that the wrong way. I'm not trying to insult anyone but the truth is the truth. Is it my fault that when I give scriptural proof that they cannot comprehend that proof?
Christianity is very much to blame for this; the notion that salvation is free and may be attained by the idlest, the dullest, the stupidest is understandably very popular with persons who may be so described.

Robertson Davies, man of letters, letter, 18, November 1984, For Your Eye Alone: Letters, 1976-1995 (1999).
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#432427 Apr 13, 2013
Tony17 wrote:
If you comprehend the following concerning creation then you should be able to grasp the rest of the Bible.......... ACCURATELY.
http://biblestudysite.com/creation.htm
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/e...

"THE hierarchy of the Roman Catholic Church has published a teaching document instructing the faithful that some parts of the Bible are not actually true...

... The Catholic bishops of England, Wales and Scotland are warning their five million worshippers, as well as any others drawn to the study of scripture, that they should not expect “total accuracy” from the Bible...

... The document shows how far the Catholic Church has come since the 17th century, when Galileo was condemned as a heretic for flouting a near-universal belief in the divine inspiration of the Bible by advocating the Copernican view of the solar system. Only a century ago, Pope Pius X condemned Modernist Catholic scholars who adapted historical-critical methods of analysing ancient literature to the Bible ...

... They say the Church must offer the gospel in ways “appropriate to changing times, intelligible and attractive to our contemporaries”.

... Such an approach is dangerous, for example, when people of one nation or group see in the Bible a mandate for their own superiority, and even consider themselves permitted by the Bible to use violence against others.”

“YESHUA IS LORD”

Since: Apr 07

GAWGIA (GEORGIA)

#432428 Apr 13, 2013
OldJG wrote:
<quoted text>
Really? And you have, what, divine revelation?
Uh YEAH!!! Just what do you think the Bible is when one comprehends it ..........ACCURATELY. It's Divine revelation.

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