Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

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The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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devil always say prove ..no evidence..
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sad cu prolit gorivo od kosilice iz garage jer na slici slici na cep i grlo sto se gorivo lije

oh yes i need that drove out
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i will see on photo extra more which symbol they prepeare..
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I realize you are here to attack the Catholic Church. There is no RCC, it was never called the "Roman" Catholic Church ... and you should have known that had you really studied history and the Church.
And I am here to do what I can to unite Christians against common enemies, which are Muslims, Secular Humanists, various socialist movements, and anyone that attacks free will and strives for some kind of compulsive system of belief, religious or secular. And of course, various heresies that seek to divide and confuse Christians and confound their salvation.
Therefore, I openly condemn Protestants attacking Catholics, and Catholics fighting Protestants. I know this is not what Jesus wants, and I know there is merit on both sides, if only pride and arrogance is left behind on both sides.
Just so we are clear where we stand.
I am open to any kind of evidence that your gospels are valid. But really, without a civilization that has grown up with those gospels, how can we judge it's merits? And of course, you've already judged the merits of Western Europe, so in your heart you are convinced of great evil bring born from Christianity.
But who are you to judge so many dead Christians throughout the ages? And how can you compare your gospel's influence to ours, when we have a civilization, and you do not?
These are telling questions.

chatter with nooo bible or history is unhelpful.
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Provide the name of these theologians who said the Roman Catholics wrote the Bible. The Jews wrote every word in the Bible other than those written by Luke. All of which was inspired by the Holy Spirit.
You said, quote, "The early Christians were Catholic. That is an absolute fact, on the name of Jesus Christ Himself, our Lord. Do not argue with me, tell that to the Savior you proclaim to believe, while denouncing His Church in the same breath." End quote.
You are the dumbest person I have ever encountered. The early Christians were JEWISH....you moron. Was Peter a Jew? Yes or no. If not you better re-write Acts 10. When did the Church have it's beginning.....Pentecost. Read Acts 2. Was Paul a Jew? Yes or no. Was John a Jew? Yes or no. How about Jesus? Was He a Jew or was he a Roman Catholic?
You said, quote "Woe to those that cause the children of God to stumble." End quote.
Try reading these verses......
Galatians 1:8-9, 8 "But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed. 9 As we have said before, so now I say again: If anyone is preaching to you a gospel contrary to the one you received, let him be accursed."
Go back to your hole. You are nothing more than a Roman Catholic pretending to be a Baptist. Every Baptist I know would disown you and your theology from hell.
Roman Catholics believe the following:
Prayers for the dead
Making the sign of the cross
Veneration of angels, dead saints, and images
Mass a daily ritual
Exaltation of Mary, term "Mother of God"
Extreme Unction
Purgatory
Latin used in worship
Prayers offered to Mary, dead saints and angels
Kissing the pope's feet
Temporal power of popes
Veneration of cross, images, relics
Holy water
Fasting on Fridays and Lent
Mass as a sacrifice and attendance made mandatory
Celibacy of priests
Rosary
Sale of indulgences
Seven sacraments
Transubstantiation
Confession to a priest instead of God
Adoration of the wafer (Jesus is a cracker)
The cup forbidden to the laity at communion
Tradition has equal authority with the Bible
Apocryphal books are added to the Bible
Immaculate conception of Mary (actually deception)
Salvation by baptism
Infallibility of the pope
Assumption of Mary
Mary proclaimed the "Mother of the Church"
Do Baptists believe these things? I think not. You are no Baptist. You are a Roman Catholic in Baptist clothing. Much like a wolf in sheeps clothing. Do you understand?
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I understand more than you do, brother. I think it's time you left the theology to the experts. Keep a child-like faith, and do not trouble your elders.
Why not answer the questions instead of ducking them. Provide the names of the theologians you quoted. Also, which Roman Catholic wrote the Bible?

Was Jesus a Jew or a Roman Catholic? How about Paul, Peter, John, Andrew, Barnabus and on and on and on?

Have you ever read Acts 2 and Acts 10?

Baptist? Surely not SBC. Adrian Rogers would roll over in his grave to hear one of his Baptist brothers speak as you speak. Again, you are nothing more than a Roman Catholic pretending to be a Baptist. Much like a wolf in sheeps clothing. Do you understand?
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you not judging nothing at all
you are not me
nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooo
all angels saints marty and demons will fall.
now
why you going fall if you are god..

be very carefull what so ever
if i need i will remove not this globe all of them as flip flop..
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i just say be good
who have that did you know
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i am alright
asked yourself ''?''
who

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Roman Catholics believe the following:
Prayers for the dead (not forbidden)
Making the sign of the cross (not forbidden)
Veneration of angels, dead saints, and images (not forbidden)
Mass a daily ritual (Mandated by Our Lord Himself)
Exaltation of Mary, term "Mother of God" (Because she is)
Extreme Unction (Mandated by God)
Purgatory (All sins must be purged before coming before God)
Latin used in worship (wow, not forbidden, and totally cool)
Prayers offered to Mary, dead saints and angels (Absolutely wrong, prayers are ASKED for)
Kissing the pope's feet (voluntary, nor forbidden)
Temporal power of popes (of course, so?)
Veneration of cross, images, relics (absolutely, and not forbidden)
Holy water (damned right, we need it for vampires.)
Fasting on Fridays and Lent (Fasting is mandatory)
Mass as a sacrifice and attendance made mandatory (Of course, it's all about JESUS, it better be mandatory!)
Celibacy of priests (not forbidden, and only in the Latin Rite, priests may marry in the other Rites)
Rosary (not forbidden, and admittedly a little weird)
Sale of indulgences (not anymore, and definitely an error. Priests are still sinners after all)
Seven sacraments (Yeah, totally valid and fully supported by Scripture)
Transubstantiation (a little weird, but legit)
Confession to a priest instead of God (not forbidden)
Adoration of the wafer (well, Jesus commanded we eat him, several times. Get over it.)
The cup forbidden to the laity at communion (For supporters of gay marriage and pro-aborts, you betcha!)
Tradition has equal authority with the Bible (Of course it does. Sacred Tradition and Scripture are both God's word!)
Apocryphal books are added to the Bible (Says who? Martin Luther? No authority.)
Immaculate conception of Mary (Arianism and heresy, all Protestants except this)
Salvation by baptism (Totally wrong, Catholics do not believe this)
Infallibility of the pope (ex cathedra, look it up)
Assumption of Mary (questionable, but not worth fighting about)
Mary proclaimed the "Mother of the Church" (maybe Catholics go a little too far ... but she DID give birth to Jesus for crying out loud. Only one was worthy of that task, so show some respect!)

"Do Baptists believe these things? I think not."

Never claimed Baptists believed these things. Now, is any of the above worth keeping Christians apart over? Absolutely not.

Woe to those that cause the children of God to stumble.
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Yankee Yahoo wrote:
Roman Catholics believe the following:
Tradition has equal authority with the Bible (Of course it does. Sacred Tradition and Scripture are both God's word!)
What most Protestants and even some Catholics, fail to realize and understand is that THE BIBLE---- "IS" TRADITION"!---whether it is written or whether it is the unwritten (oral teachings of Jesus from His Apostles)

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What most Protestants and even some Catholics, fail to realize and understand is that THE BIBLE---- "IS" TRADITION"!---whether it is written or whether it is the unwritten (oral teachings of Jesus from His Apostles)

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That is not what Jesus said about it.

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Please tell me what Jesus say..did you see him?
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OldJG wrote:
OldJG wrote:
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Provide the name of these theologians who said the Roman Catholics wrote the Bible. The Jews wrote every word in the Bible other than those written by Luke. All of which was inspired by the Holy Spirit.
You said, quote, "The early Christians were Catholic. That is an absolute fact, on the name of Jesus Christ Himself, our Lord. Do not argue with me, tell that to the Savior you proclaim to believe, while denouncing His Church in the same breath." End quote.
You are the dumbest person I have ever encountered. The early Christians were JEWISH....you moron. Was Peter a Jew? Yes or no. If not you better re-write Acts 10. When did the Church have it's beginning.....Pentecost. Read Acts 2. Was Paul a Jew? Yes or no. Was John a Jew? Yes or no. How about Jesus? Was He a Jew or was he a Roman Catholic?
You said, quote "Woe to those that cause the children of God to stumble." End quote.
Try reading these verses......
Galatians 1:8-9, 8 "But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed. 9 As we have said before, so now I say again: If anyone is preaching to you a gospel contrary to the one you received, let him be accursed."
Go back to your hole. You are nothing more than a Roman Catholic pretending to be a Baptist. Every Baptist I know would disown you and your theology from hell.
Roman Catholics believe the following:
Prayers for the dead
Making the sign of the cross
Veneration of angels, dead saints, and images
Mass a daily ritual
Exaltation of Mary, term "Mother of God"
Extreme Unction
Purgatory
Latin used in worship
Prayers offered to Mary, dead saints and angels
Kissing the pope's feet
Temporal power of popes
Veneration of cross, images, relics
Holy water
Fasting on Fridays and Lent
Mass as a sacrifice and attendance made mandatory
Celibacy of priests
Rosary
Sale of indulgences
Seven sacraments
Transubstantiation
Confession to a priest instead of God
Adoration of the wafer (Jesus is a cracker)
The cup forbidden to the laity at communion
Tradition has equal authority with the Bible
Apocryphal books are added to the Bible
Immaculate conception of Mary (actually deception)
Salvation by baptism
Infallibility of the pope
Assumption of Mary
Mary proclaimed the "Mother of the Church"
Do Baptists believe these things? I think not. You are no Baptist. You are a Roman Catholic in Baptist clothing. Much like a wolf in sheeps clothing. Do you understand?
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Why not answer the questions instead of ducking them. Provide the names of the theologians you quoted. Also, which Roman Catholic wrote the Bible?
Was Jesus a Jew or a Roman Catholic? How about Paul, Peter, John, Andrew, Barnabus and on and on and on?
Have you ever read Acts 2 and Acts 10?
Baptist? Surely not SBC. Adrian Rogers would roll over in his grave to hear one of his Baptist brothers speak as you speak. Again, you are nothing more than a Roman Catholic pretending to be a Baptist. Much like a wolf in sheeps clothing. Do you understand?
They were all Catholics. What, did you think they were Presbyterian Evangelical Lutherans?

You ever read the Epistle of Barnabas?
He quotes the 7 Books missing from your Bible.
He is clear on salvation and justification.
He believers in the Bread and Wine as the literal being of Jesus Christ. The Eucharist that you make fun of.

Yeah Old G, they were all Catholic just like us.
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justification..no you are wrong Jesus don't have rights on justice as well many victims too..by
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On this...the Catholics got it right. From the Catholic Encylcopedia: Christ, Jesus - The incarnate Son of God and the redeemer of the human race....
--- Oxbow; CHRIST JESUS is our Savior, Redeemer,Great Good Shepherd; High Priest our Great GOD; Great King; Great LORD, and one and only True Mediator, between GOD THE FATHER and peoples... Thankyou and meet you in Heaven...
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Nope, I can't prove Christ is quoted accurately in the Bible. I can't prove the Books that make up the NT are authentic. I can't prove that the gnostic texts are authentic either.
I'm completely relying on the Authority of the Catholic Church to determine both.
You? You're also relying on the declaration of men.
ironic eh?
How one knows if what the apostles taught they compared with the other testament of Christ the Old Testament.

Acts 17:11

King James Version (KJV)


11 These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.

Galatians 1:8.

But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.

This is how one knows which books were inspired and belong in the New Testament. Gods Word does not contridict itself.

However it does take discerment from the Holy Spirit and not the carnal mind to see deeper into Gods Word.
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Please tell me what Jesus say..did you see him?
Preston say's he did in Vietnam sitting next to him. Not sure what their conversation entailed you will have to ask him.

“What are you looking at?”

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Clay wrote:
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Nope, I can't prove Christ is quoted accurately in the Bible. I can't prove the Books that make up the NT are authentic. I can't prove that the gnostic texts are authentic either.
I'm completely relying on the Authority of the Catholic Church to determine both.
You? You're also relying on the declaration of men.
ironic eh?
Nice Clay - honesty speaks wonders, huh?

No I do not rely on the declaration of men, but I will utilize their thoughts to formulate a belief based upon those texts. Jesus basically said the same thing with, "to know yourself".

Which is completely different than relying on an organization to dictate what you are supposed to do.

You don't need it, unless there is something that they can do for you at that moment when you appear in front of the supposed "judgment". Can they? Like what? Will they be holding your hand? Will they be providing a list of things that you did? Will they be there when you have to answer for what you had done in your life?
- Nope - they won't.

So in essence, YOU get to choose your salvation, and no religion is required.

Self.
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<quoted text>Preston say's he did in Vietnam sitting next to him. Not sure what their conversation entailed you will have to ask him.
there was NEVER any conversation between us. I was to afraid to say anything. I had my mind made up that if He looked at me, I was jumping out.

but ONE thing that I will never forget is His eyes.

I love how you wish to mock me. to your regret someday, you will realize your folly.

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HOJO:you claim to know but reality says a differnt story,again you post gibberish:can not prove anything about your church is true.
Your sources of Church History are biasly "filled with anti-catholic "editorialized rhetoric" that is not worth ANY Catholics time to debate, deliberate or discuss. I have "glanced over" some of the "anti-catholic negativity" from your "fundie sources" that is nothing more than Protestant "personal opinionated propaganda" ---again---"a total waste of time" to discuss. We/as Catholics, know without a doubt, where the TRUTH of TRUE Church History originates, who the credible historian authors and writers are and who possesses "a monopoly on Historical Documented fundamental TRUTH. It begins with the teachings of the Jesus Christs Apostles,to the recorded historical writings of Early Church Fathers,(who gave you Protestants the bible that you mis-interpret to your own (destruction), then from biographical the Lives of the Saints, the writings from the Apostolic Succession of the Popes (for over 2000 years) and finally the Apologistic historian authors and writers (both Catholic and Protestant) WHO--if you took time to read- would "debunk" all of the "spin" and "editorialized heretical garbage" that you come up with. Again-go read the Catholic Catechism and the Encyclicals if you REALLY ARE SERIOUS about finding TRUTH. OTHERWISE--go argue with the rest of your 42,000 contradicting and inconsistent "fundies" NONE OF WHICH agree with you EITHER!!----Still "fishing" jethro8----and still "catching NOTHING"!!!...JETHRO in this whole entire post you wrote is not one scrap of evidence that disproves anything i posted.and the only reason is,is because i'm posting historical facts that can not be denied,if they could be,you would be doing it instead of constantly repeating the same old post over an over an over again. you do not belong to the true church if you did there would be scripture written stating that fact,and there is not a single word,and second reason,if it was not for the roman empire there would be no pagan/christian church. face the truth and live with it.you can't have a true church until you can prove a god truly exists,and that has not been accomplished yet.you belong to a money hungry power playing conglomerate that is trying to pass itself off as a church.it cares more about money and power than it does about people that fact has definitely been proven centuries ago.

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Your sources of Church History are biasly "filled with anti-catholic "editorialized rhetoric" that is not worth ANY Catholics time to debate, deliberate or discuss. I have "glanced over" some of the "anti-catholic negativity" from your "fundie sources" that is nothing more than Protestant "personal opinionated propaganda" ---again---"a total waste of time" to discuss. We/as Catholics, know without a doubt, where the TRUTH of TRUE Church History originates, who the credible historian authors and writers are and who possesses "a monopoly on Historical Documented fundamental TRUTH. It begins with the teachings of the Jesus Christs Apostles,to the recorded historical writings of Early Church Fathers,(who gave you Protestants the bible that you mis-interpret to your own (destruction), then from biographical the Lives of the Saints, the writings from the Apostolic Succession of the Popes (for over 2000 years) and finally the Apologistic historian authors and writers (both Catholic and Protestant) WHO--if you took time to read- would "debunk" all of the "spin" and "editorialized heretical garbage" that you come up with. Again-go read the Catholic Catechism and the Encyclicals if you REALLY ARE SERIOUS about finding TRUTH. OTHERWISE--go argue with the rest of your 42,000 contradicting and inconsistent "fundies" NONE OF WHICH agree with you EITHER!!----Still "fishing" jethro8----and still "catching NOTHING"!!!
yes i'm still fishing and i "need a bigger boat" catching a lot of truth about the false teachings of the pagan/christian church,and there is a lot more fishing to do,where as in your case your boat is empty,a 6 foot dingy is all you need, you can not disprove anything i posted,if you could you would and you don't because you can't. your lucky if you could catch a guppies worth of truth.

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off to the dr's. to see if i past my tests,i hate these trips because i want to know and then again i don't want to know.but i have to find out,see you guys later.

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