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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 685932 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#432366 Apr 13, 2013
jethro8 wrote:
<quoted text>With such a small group of men hand-picked (hired) by the pope to specifically advise him in running the church and reforming the Vatican, it appears Francis wants a more collegial type of governance for his papacy. That also would meld with his reluctance to call himself pope in favor of his other main title, bishop of Rome......By NICOLE WINFIELD | Associated Press – 4 hrs ago
You probably should have just said "sorry, I read some info babe describe it as "hired", but since Cardinals are in the Catholic Church, I should've looked at a Catholic website to see how Cardinals are chosen before making such an uninformed statement."
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#432368 Apr 13, 2013
OldJG wrote:
Infallible? Ever? Never? Finally, an admission of guilt and abundant human arrogance.
VATICAN CITY — Pope Francis named eight cardinals from around the globe Saturday to advise him on running the Catholic Church and reforming the Vatican bureaucracy, marking his first month as pope with a major initiative to reflect the universal nature of the church in key governing decisions.
What does infallibility have to do with making Curia appointments?
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#432369 Apr 13, 2013
OldJG wrote:
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ROMAN CATHOLIC..........Constantine the creator
It was never called the Roman Catholic Church until a few years ago. It was always just "the Church at Rome" and "the Catholic Church". You might know of it in the bible, it's located immediately after the Acts of the Apostles.
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#432370 Apr 13, 2013
OldJG wrote:
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The word vicar comes from the Latin word vicarius meaning substitution. The on-line version of the Pocket Catholic Dictionary by John A. Hardon, S.J. defines the Vicar of Christ as,“The Pope, visible head of the Church on earth, acting for and in the place of Christ. He possesses supreme ecclesiastical authority in the Catholic Church...”
The pope is not the successor of Christ. He is the visible head of Christ's Church on earth.
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#432371 Apr 13, 2013
OldJG wrote:
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The word vicar comes from the Latin word vicarius meaning substitution. The on-line version of the Pocket Catholic Dictionary by John A. Hardon, S.J. defines the Vicar of Christ as,“The Pope, visible head of the Church on earth, acting for and in the place of Christ. He possesses supreme ecclesiastical authority in the Catholic Church...”
Btw, who's the head guy/gal in your ecclesial community?
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#432372 Apr 13, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
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You don't have the foggiest idea what true Christianity is..
Christianity is a myth, just as all religion is myth.

When you understand that a faithful Catholic would not join a Protestant religion, you will understand that a faithful Jew would never have become a Catholic.

To believe that a dude named Jesus favored Catholics over his own Jews ... would be to perceive that the dude you call Jesus would be a traitor to his own religion ... and that attitude does not put the image of Jesus up on a pedestal, it puts his image down in the muck as a traitor.

Do you really desire so much to be saved, that you will play the part of such a fool???
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#432373 Apr 13, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
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Aren't you the chick who's been hammering on Christians, Catholics in particular, over the last several years on the other thread? What make you think your tripe will be better received here?
I've been hammering ALL religion. I suggest that just because you BELIEVE you are special ... it is not so.

Your belief that a Jew came to save you for heaven is very silly. Faithful Jews don't believe in heaven.
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#432374 Apr 13, 2013
Here you can see how the ex-Jew Ignatius preached at the Christians to no longer have faith in Judaism.

To believe that a faithful Jew named Jesus would disobey his own father to support Catholics was quite the flamboyant story indeed!
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And, in his writings, Ignatius uses the word Christianity, and he uses it ... in contrast with the word Judaism. We have here for the first time a polarity, a contrast. There is something called Judaism and there is something called Christianity, and true Christians will make sure that what they believe and what they do, is in fact Christianity and it's not Judaism. That is explicit and unambiguous for the very first time in the writings of Ignatius around the year 110 or 120 B.C.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows ...
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#432375 Apr 13, 2013
A pope would never leave his throne to become a Protestant. He would have no reason to jump from the position of such power whatsoever.

Martin Luther on the other hand had every reason to start a new religion called Protestantism. He wanted to marry his beloved, AND he wanted to be the leader of a new religion ... which is what occurred.

The ex-Jews were at first ALL bishops, which is another word for pope. That is why the pope is now called the bishop of Rome.

Back then, they squabbled over which one would be the head pope, and there were three popes ruling at one time, making a mockery of the whole religion ... which was a mockery of truth from its beginnings.
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#432376 Apr 13, 2013
Three popes reigning at one time.
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From the book,“History of Christianity,” by Clyde L. Manschreck … comes the following.

With two popes reigning during the Great Schism, each anathematizing the other, many voices cried for reform, among them Conrad of Geinhausen, Heinrich of Langenstein, Peter of Ailli, John Gerson, and Nicholas of Clemanges. The agitation for a reforming council became so great that the cardinals of both Popes finally issued a call in Piza in 409. Neither the Pope of Avignon nor the one at Rome attended. Pisa declared both of them deposed, and elected Alexander V to be Pope. But the Popes at Avignon and Rome refused to be deposed, so that Christendom was faced with the spectacle of three Popes. The situation was intolerable.
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#432377 Apr 13, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
Here you can see how the ex-Jew Ignatius preached at the Christians to no longer have faith in Judaism.
To believe that a faithful Jew named Jesus would disobey his own father to support Catholics was quite the flamboyant story indeed!
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And, in his writings, Ignatius uses the word Christianity, and he uses it ... in contrast with the word Judaism. We have here for the first time a polarity, a contrast. There is something called Judaism and there is something called Christianity, and true Christians will make sure that what they believe and what they do, is in fact Christianity and it's not Judaism. That is explicit and unambiguous for the very first time in the writings of Ignatius around the year 110 or 120 B.C.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows ...
"Jesus came to complete the Jewish religion by creating a Church that would serve as its fulfillment and be open to people of all races, not just ethnic Jews. As Catholics, we are those who have accepted the fulfillment of the Jewish faith by joining the Church that Jesus founded."

http://www.catholic.com/quickquestions/if-jes...
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#432378 Apr 13, 2013
Guide for Living … Pope Pius XII … Selected Addresses and Letters of His Holiness

World Government

Address to members of the Universal Movement for World Federation, April 6, 1951:

Your movement gentlemen, aims at bringing into being an effective political world organization. Nothing is more in line with the traditional doctrine of the Church nor more adapted to her teaching regarding just and unjust war, particularly at the present juncture.
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#432379 Apr 13, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
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"Jesus came to complete the Jewish religion by creating a Church that would serve as its fulfillment and be open to people of all races, not just ethnic Jews. As Catholics, we are those who have accepted the fulfillment of the Jewish faith by joining the Church that Jesus founded."
http://www.catholic.com/quickquestions/if-jes...
Athanasian Creed

1. Whosoever will be saved, before all things it is necessary that he hold the catholic faith
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#432380 Apr 13, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
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"Jesus came to complete the Jewish religion
Jesus came to complete the Jewish religion by leaving it to work in Catholic confessionals forgiving sins of Catholics that for centuries killed Jews as "Christ killers???"

Not likely!
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#432381 Apr 13, 2013
The way to complete the Jewish religion, would be to stay IN the Jewish religion as a faithful Rabbi, and train those such as ex-Jew Catholic-traitors of Judaism how to be faithful Jews.
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#432382 Apr 13, 2013
World History Timelines

Din Timelines

1096

may 00 - Before embarking on the First Crusade Count Emich von Leiningen and his army swept through their own German homeland, murdering thousands of Jews, whom they had declared "murderers of Christ." When Emich arrived in the town of Worms, the town's Roman Catholic Bishop tried to protect the Jewish population, but the Crusaders overran his palace and slaughtered some 500 people who had taken shelter there. Another 300 were killed over the next two days. The graves of the massacre victims can still be seen at the Jewish Cemetery at Worms.

1190

mar 16 - The Crusades began the massacre of Jews in York, England.The Jewish population of York fled to Clifford's Tower overlooking the rivers Ouse and Foss during an anti-Jewish riot. A crazed friar set fire to the tower and rather than be captured, the inhabitants committed mass suicide.

mar 17 - Crusades complete massacre of Jews of York England.

mar 18 - Crusaders kill 57 Jews in Bury St Edmonds England.
205

jul 15 - Pope Innocent III states Jews are doomed to perpetual servitude & subjugation due to crucifixion of Jesus.

1348x –
Accused of being a cause of the plague, the Jews in France were dragged from their houses and burned.Pogroms occurred throughout Europe. When the plague subsided, few Jews were left in Germany ? or the Low Countries.
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#432383 Apr 13, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
The way to complete the Jewish religion, would be to stay IN the Jewish religion as a faithful Rabbi, and train those such as ex-Jew Catholic-traitors of Judaism how to be faithful Jews.
Jesus fulfilled the Old Covenant, the Jewish religion by founding His Church, the Catholic Church, establishing the New Covenant.
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#432384 Apr 13, 2013
Had Jesus existed, it would have been the Catholics that were the traitors to Judaism and Jesus.

But my guess is, the Jesus-story was simply a re-warmed myth from other ancient religions.
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The World’s Sixteen Crucified Saviors … Christianity before Christ, by Kersey Graves … first published in 1875.

and finally these twenty Jesus Christs (accepting their character for the name) laid the foundation for the salvation of the world, and ascended back to heaven.

1. Chrishna of Hindostan.
2. Budha Sakia of India.
3. Salivahana of Bermuda
4. Zulis, or Zhule, also Osiris and Orus, of Egypt.
5. Odin of the Scandinavians.
6. Crite of Chaldea.
7. Zoroaster and Mithra of Persia.
8. Baal and Taut,“the only Begotten of God,” of Phenicia.
9. Indra of Thibet.
10. Bali of Afghanistan.
11. Jao of Nepaul.
12. Wittoa of the Bilingonese.
13. Thammuz of Syria.
14. Atys of Phrygia.
15. Xamolxis of Thrace.
16. Zoar of the Bonzes.
17. Adad of Assyria.
18. Deva Tat,aud Sammonocadam of Siam.
19. Alcides of Thebes.
20. Mikado of the Sintoos.
21. Beddru of Japan.
22. Hesus or Eros, and Bremrillah, of the Druids.
23. Thor, son of Odin, of the Gauls.
24. Cadmus of Greece.
25. Hil and Feta of the Mandaites.
26. Gentaut and Quexalcote of Mexico.
27. Universal Monarch of the Sibyls.
28. Ischy of the Island of Formosa.
29. Divine teacher of Plato.
30. Holy One of xaca.
31. Fohi and Tien of China.
32. Adonis, son of the virgin Io of Greece.
33. Ision and Quirinus of Rome.
34. Prometheus of Caucasus.
35. Mohammud, or Mahomet, of Arabia.

These have all received divine honors, have nearly all been worshiped as Gods, or sons of Gods; were mostly incarnated as Christs, Saviors, Messiahs, or Mediators; not a few of them were reputedly born of virgins; some of them filling a character almost identical with that ascribed by the Christian’s bible to Jesus Christ; many of them like him, are reported crucified; and all of them, taken together, furnish a prototype and parallel for nearly every important incident and wonder-inciting miracle, doctrine and precept recorded in the New Testament, of the Christian’s Savior. Surely, with so many Saviors the world cannot, or should not, be lost.

“Free gift means FREE”

Since: Jan 09

Chicagoland

#432385 Apr 13, 2013
Robert Eno gives the following explanation:

There is no question then that Ambrose honored the Roman see, but there are other texts which seem to establish a certain distance and independence as well. He commented, for example, that Peter’s primacy was a primacy of confession, not of honor; a primacy of faith, not rank...Finally, one further text should be mentioned in connection with Ambrose since it is a text which like Roma locuta est has become something of a shibboleth or slogan. This is the brief phrase from his commentary on the fortieth Psalm: Ubi Petrus, ibi ecclesia (where Peter is, there is the Church)...As Roger Gryson has shown, in his study on Ambrose and the priesthood, the context of such a statement has nothing to do with any treatise on ecclesiology. It is but one statement in a long chain of allegorical exegesis starting with the line from Ps. 41:9:‘Even my bosom friend in whom I trusted...has lifted his heel against me.’ This is not to deny the fairly common association of Peter as the symbol of the Church, the figura ecclesiae we have seen in Augustine. But it says little that is new and nothing at all about papal authority (Robert Eno, The Rise of the Papacy (Wilmington: Michael Glazier, 1990), pp. 83-84).
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#432387 Apr 13, 2013
The Christian religion is simply the new kid on the block in comparison with the ancient religions.

There's nothing new about religious myths. They all stemmed from fantasy, and by more and more cult-leaders, morphed into other forms of fantasy.

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