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“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#431207 Apr 4, 2013
who="confrinting with the word"

who="Normand Guay"
--- Clay; I disagree and you are clueless and nuts;>>>AS IF JESUS CHRIST WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT AND GOD THE FATHER DID NOT PUT GOD'S HOLY SCRIPTURES TOGETHER... Clay you need to wake up... GET REAL...
**********
Shhhhhhhhh...They think that only the Pope can hear from God...
KM

**********
PS Joh 8:47 He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.

If one is of God, he/she will hear His voice. "My sheep know My voice."

KayMarie
Normand Guay

Winnipeg, Canada

#431208 Apr 4, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
I said I believe the Holy Spirit guided the Church when they put the Bible together. Jesus also put the Church together ya know?
Besides, what good is the Bible to you guys when you reject so much of what the Apostles taught??
--- Clay; YES what good is the Bible to the Roman Catholics when they reject what JESUS CHRIST AND THE APOSTLES TAUGHT; especially on the issues of GOD'S 10 COMMANDMENTS... GOD THE TRINITY AND GOD'S WAYS [GOD'S 10 COMMANDMENTS] are the best ways... Thankyou and hope to see you in Heaven with JESUS CHRIST...

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#431209 Apr 4, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
I said I believe the Holy Spirit guided the Church when they put the Bible together. Jesus also put the Church together ya know?
Besides, what good is the Bible to you guys when you reject so much of what the Apostles taught??
~~~

Of what profit is the word of God ,....If THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH

has incorporated and attempted to taint it with paganism, AND SERVE

A DIFFERENT CORRUPTIBLE JESUS WHICH THEY HAVE INVENTED/MADE THE IMAGE

OF PUT HIM ON A MINI CROSS

WHICH THEY CALL A CRUCIFIX..

ATTEMPTING TO DISPLAY THE REAL JESUS IN A POSITION OF SHAME HE DESPISED

Heb_12:2 Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith;

who for the joy that was set before him

endured the cross,

despising the shame, and

is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.

HAVING NO RESPECT FOR JESUS' OPINION OF THE CROSS.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#431210 Apr 4, 2013
Hermeneutics Smutics wrote:
I AGREE WITH YOU THAT THE Doctrine OF THE trinity IS NOT IN THE Bible.I refer to the specifics of the doctrine elaborated by Athanasius, Basil, Gregory of Nyssa, and Gregory of Nanzianzus, That is indisputable.This doctrine is based on Scripture, but is their explanation. I happen to believe that their Doctrine is inspired and correct. This is based on my belief in Tradition and also my own critical analysis. Yet the Trinity is such a confounding Doctrine that any attempt to conceptualize it will g\fall short.

**********

We are made in the image of God: spirit, soul and body...
THREE IN ONE.
Jesus prayed in the 17th chapter of John, 11th verse:

"And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are."

1Jn 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
1Jn 5:8 And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.

The word 'trinity' is not used, but might as well be, for it is speaking of three persons that are ONE.

KayMarie
Religion - A Delusion

Titusville, FL

#431211 Apr 4, 2013
Hermeneutics Smutics wrote:
<quoted text>A person must know how to read the Bible and its various genres. Otherwise, you are right. Some thing will seem absurd. I do thank you for disagreeing IN A RSPECTFUL WAY.
Likewise. Thank you for your take.
Clay

Chicago, IL

#431212 Apr 4, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
who="Normand Guay"
--- Clay; I disagree and you are clueless and nuts;>>>AS IF JESUS CHRIST WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT AND GOD THE FATHER DID NOT PUT GOD'S HOLY SCRIPTURES TOGETHER... Clay you need to wake up... GET REAL...
**********
Shhhhhhhhh...They think that only the Pope can hear from God...
KM
lol. Yeah that's it Kay, you got us pegged.

Kinda ironic, that you follow and obey your own self proclaimed 'Pope', who's changed more of the teachings from Christ, then all of the Popes combined - because they changed zero!

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#431213 Apr 4, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
~~~
Of what profit is the word of God ,....If THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH
has incorporated and attempted to taint it with paganism, AND SERVE
A DIFFERENT CORRUPTIBLE JESUS WHICH THEY HAVE INVENTED/MADE THE IMAGE
OF PUT HIM ON A MINI CROSS
WHICH THEY CALL A CRUCIFIX..
ATTEMPTING TO DISPLAY THE REAL JESUS IN A POSITION OF SHAME HE DESPISED
Heb_12:2 Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith;
who for the joy that was set before him
endured the cross,
despising the shame, and
is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.
HAVING NO RESPECT FOR JESUS' OPINION OF THE CROSS.
~~~

THEY HAVE DONE THE SAME WITH MARY THE MOTHER OF JESUS...

THEY HAVE TAKEN THE FACT THAT SHE WAS A VIRGIN and turned it into a

tabloid sexual exploitation..that has displayed her before the world

in a sensual light..coming from a bunch of dirty minded old men they

call their holy fathers

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#431214 Apr 4, 2013
who="Clay"
lol. Yeah that's it Kay, you got us pegged.
Kinda ironic, that you follow and obey your own self proclaimed 'Pope', who's changed more of the teachings from Christ, then all of the Popes combined - because they changed zero!

**********

Tell me the things that 'we' have changed (I changed none).

Only recently the CC declared that there is no Limbo...though the CC themselves concocted it from somewhere other than the Bible.

When I was a child the CC declared it dangerous for anyone to read the Bible without a priest to explain it. Today's CC's declare that they never did such a thing. But CC's still scold us for 'sola scriptura'...
(I must be older than most of you.)

Seriously discussing these things, Clay. Think about it. I'm not attacking you, or anyone else.

KayMarie

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#431215 Apr 4, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
~~~
Of what profit is the word of God ,....If THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH
has incorporated and attempted to taint it with paganism, AND SERVE
A DIFFERENT CORRUPTIBLE JESUS WHICH THEY HAVE INVENTED/MADE THE IMAGE
OF PUT HIM ON A MINI CROSS
WHICH THEY CALL A CRUCIFIX..
ATTEMPTING TO DISPLAY THE REAL JESUS IN A POSITION OF SHAME HE DESPISED
Heb_12:2 Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith;
who for the joy that was set before him
endured the cross,
despising the shame, and
is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.
HAVING NO RESPECT FOR JESUS' OPINION OF THE CROSS.

~~~

THEY HAVE DONE THE SAME WITH MARY THE MOTHER OF JESUS...

THEY HAVE TAKEN THE FACT THAT SHE WAS A VIRGIN and turned it into a

tabloid sexual exploitation..that has displayed her before the world

in a sensual light..coming from a bunch of dirty minded old men they;

~~~

They incited a
debate whether she had sexual relations with her husband or not.. Started a myth about her perpetual virginity..
while denying the existence of Her family...

something that distorts/distracts from the real purpose for which she was chosen by God in the first place.

.Adding myths that sensationalizes Jesus' Mother

in an attempt to take man's minds from the

true focal point...which should be

Jesus our Redeemer Lord and savior
Normand Guay

Winnipeg, Canada

#431216 Apr 4, 2013
--- JESUS CHRIST our Savior; Redeemer; and the only True Mediator between GOD THE FATHER AND PEOPLES because of what JESUS CHRIST did on the Cross...>>>JESUS CHRIST IS ALSO KING OF kings AND LORD OF lords; High Priest and GREAT GOOD SHEPHERD...Thankyou, GOD BLESS...
Clay

Chicago, IL

#431217 Apr 4, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
who="Clay"
lol. Yeah that's it Kay, you got us pegged.
Kinda ironic, that you follow and obey your own self proclaimed 'Pope', who's changed more of the teachings from Christ, then all of the Popes combined - because they changed zero!
**********
Tell me the things that 'we' have changed (I changed none).
Only recently the CC declared that there is no Limbo...though the CC themselves concocted it from somewhere other than the Bible.
When I was a child the CC declared it dangerous for anyone to read the Bible without a priest to explain it. Today's CC's declare that they never did such a thing. But CC's still scold us for 'sola scriptura'...
(I must be older than most of you.)
Seriously discussing these things, Clay. Think about it. I'm not attacking you, or anyone else.
KayMarie
Start with the Eucharist. He undid what Jesus Christ started and all his Apostles taught.

Your husband also added a concept called Sola Scripture that Christ never taught.
From tat false teaching, he determined that Mary had other children (brothers and sisters?). That Peter was never the head of the Apostles and did not have any successors. He determined that the Beast is the Roman Catholic Church. He teaches that Catholics worship statues and Mary. He made up a scenario that everyone has the authority to interpret scripture and dictate what Our Lords ministry is.
This all began on a lie called Sola Scripture.

The changing of the Eucharist is the most dangerous.
7th Day Catholics Rock

Poplar Bluff, MO

#431218 Apr 4, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
<quoted text>
So, let's see if I understand you correctly.
Because "knowledge increased" it was the right time to "re-write" the Bible.
You are clueless.
No it had to do with the TRUTH being revealed and brought to light toward the time of the end.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#431219 Apr 4, 2013
who="Clay"
Start with the Eucharist. He undid what Jesus Christ started and all his Apostles taught.
Your husband also added a concept called Sola Scripture that Christ never taught.
From tat false teaching, he determined that Mary had other children (brothers and sisters?). That Peter was never the head of the Apostles and did not have any successors. He determined that the Beast is the Roman Catholic Church. He teaches that Catholics worship statues and Mary. He made up a scenario that everyone has the authority to interpret scripture and dictate what Our Lords ministry is.
This all began on a lie called Sola Scripture.
The changing of the Eucharist is the most dangerous.

**********

My husband did not make up 'sola scripture'. We do not change the Eucharist; the wine and the bread ARE His body and blood...because HE said so; not because we change it.

Many people teach that the CC is the beast. I do not attempt to DECLARE that it is or is not. But the scripture says that 'it' is one of the seven world powers that have been, and it shall be the eighth. Rome IS one of the seven world powers...we shall see what the future will bring.

Jesus said that HIS sheep know His voice; they hear Him. I am one of His, and happy to say that I do hear His voice at times...and I'm convinced that all of us would hear Him more if we would just pay attention.

There is no scripture that infers that Mary...living with a husband... remained virgin all her life. Matthew says simply that Joseph did not 'know' her (have intimate relations) until after she brought forth her FIRSTBORN son...Jesus.

My husband did not make up the idea that 'everyone has authority to interpret scriptures'. However, how do you manage to trust people that you do not know to interpret scripture for you?

When Jesus speaks to me I don't have a problem understanding what He says. And He frequently 'interprets' scripture for me.

He will speak to you if you ask Him to do so.

KayMarie

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#431220 Apr 4, 2013
7th Day Catholics Rock wrote:
<quoted text>No it had to do with the TRUTH being revealed and brought to light toward the time of the end.
Soooo...by using the same logic as you have....

Today, in the 21st century - we have "increased knowledge" - so that means we should re-write the Bible again.

I agree - in lieu of the recent 20th C. finds in Nag Hammadi and Qumram.

Unless you think - "God" isn't inspiring anyone anymore.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#431221 Apr 4, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
Start with the Eucharist. He undid what Jesus Christ started and all his Apostles taught.

Your husband also added a concept called Sola Scripture that Christ never taught.

From tat false teaching, he determined that Mary had other children (brothers and sisters?).

That Peter was never the head of the Apostles and did not have any successors.

He determined that the Beast is the Roman Catholic Church.

He teaches that Catholics worship statues and Mary.

He made up a scenario that everyone has the authority to interpret scripture and dictate what Our Lords ministry is.

This all began on a lie called Sola Scripture.

The changing of the Eucharist is the most dangerous.
~~~

I am going to attempt to give you scripture to validate each of the things I supposedly changed...

____

1.Start with the Eucharist. He undid what Jesus Christ started and all his Apostles taught.

I said that Jesus did not use fermented wine in communion...

Lev 10:9 Do not drink wine nor strong drink, thou, nor thy sons with thee, when ye go into the tabernacle of the congregation, lest ye die: it shall be a statute for ever throughout your generations:

___
I said that Communion does not keep you saved..

That if a willful sinner ...takes communion he will drank to him self damnation

1Co_11:29 For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body.

____

Your husband also added a concept called Sola Scripture that Christ never taught.
~~~~~~~~
2.From that false teaching, he determined that Mary had other children (brothers and sisters?).

Mat_13:55 Is not this the carpenter's son? is not his mother called Mary? and his brethren, James, and Joses, and Simon, and Judas?

Mar_6:3 Is not this the carpenter, the son of Mary, the brother of James, and Joses, and of Juda, and Simon? and are not his sisters here with us? And they were offended at him.

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Gal 1:18 Then after three years I went up to Jerusalem to see Peter, and abode with him fifteen days.

Gal 1:19 But other of the apostles saw I none, save James the Lord's brother.

Gal 1:20 Now the things which I write unto you, behold, before God, I lie not.

~~~~~~~~~~

3.That Peter was never the head of the Apostles and did not have any successors.

JESUS NEVER ESTABLISHED A DYNASTY IN ROME ITALY..Jesus has no physical kingdom on the earth at present..

HIS KINGDOM IS SPIRITUAL ..ESTABLISHED IN THE HEARTS OF TRUE CHRISTIANS

Jesus words were

Joh_8:23 And he said unto them, Ye are from beneath; I am from above: ye are of this world; I am not of this world.

Joh_18:36 Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.

4.He determined that the Beast is the Roman Catholic Church.

TO MY KNOWLEDGE I HAVEN'T BROACHED THIS SUBJECT...

BUT..

I would be more apt to say that the Roman Catholic Church is the false prophet.

~~~~~~~~

5. He teaches that Catholics worship statues and Mary.

This is an axiom, to all who observe your idolatry ...Your mausoleums
are full of icons, images, statues and idols.

instead of denying the obvious ..just stop it...

Exo 20:3 Thou shalt have no other gods before me.

Exo 20:4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:

Exo 20:5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;

Since: Nov 08

usa

#431222 Apr 4, 2013
Normand Guay wrote:
<quoted text>--- Jethro; THE TRUE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST started in Jerusalem not in Rome...
care to explain?

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#431223 Apr 4, 2013
Normand Guay wrote:
--- Jethro; THE TRUE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST started in Jerusalem not in Rome...

jethro8:
care to explain?

**********

Easy: Jesus started the church in Jerusalem. The church was empowered in the Upper Room IN JERUSALEM.

Jesus told the Apostles not to leave Jerusalem on their missionary journeys UNTIL they were empowered by the Holy Ghost IN JERUSALEM.

God says His eye is always on Jerusalem.

Who changed the focus to Rome?

KayMarie

Since: Nov 08

usa

#431224 Apr 4, 2013
FACT: The Roman Catholic church has invented an entire yearly calendar of non Biblical holy Days like Lent, Easter, Christmas... No one prior to 335 AD celebrated the birthday of Jesus. The word "Christmas" (Christ + Mass) was first used in 1038 AD. Before 335 AD, the pagan cult of Mithra, the Iranian "god of light", had long celebrated December 25 as Mithra's birthday. December 21, being the winter solace, marked the beginning of days with increasing amount of light, hence December 25 celebrated Mithra's triumph over darkness. Because the pagan festival that celebrated Mithra's birthday was so popular, the Roman Catholic church adopted the day, but changed the meaning from the birthday of Mithra, the "god of light", to Christ's birthday, God the son, "light of the world". The old meaning of December 25 was connected with Mithra's triumph over physical darkness. The new meaning celebrated Jesus triumph over spiritual darkness. Eventually Christmas became dominant, the Mithra cult went extinct and today this origin is not widely known among Roman Catholics. None of the apostles or the early church celebrated the birthday of Jesus.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#431225 Apr 4, 2013
jethro8 wrote:
<quoted text>care to explain?
The words of Jesus

Act 1:8 But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both

1.in Jerusalem, and

2.in all Judaea, and

3.in Samaria, and

4.unto the uttermost part of the earth.

~~~

THE ITINERARY OF THE APOSTLES ... WAS SET BY THE WITNESSES


ON THE DAY OF PENTECOST.

FOR THESE ARE THE NATIONS THAT WERE LATER VISITED


Act 2:5 And there were dwelling at Jerusalem Jews, devout men, out of every nation under heaven.

Act 2:6 Now when this was noised abroad, the multitude came together, and were confounded, because that every man heard them speak in his own language.

Act 2:7 And they were all amazed and marvelled, saying one to another, Behold, are not all these which speak Galilaeans?

Act 2:8 And how hear we every man in our own tongue, wherein we were born?

Act 2:9 Parthians, and

Medes, and

Elamites, and

the dwellers in Mesopotamia, and in

Judaea, and

Cappadocia, in

Pontus, and

Asia,

Act 2:10

Phrygia, and

Pamphylia, in

Egypt, and in the

parts of Libya about Cyrene, and

strangers of Rome,

Jews and

proselytes,

Act 2:11

Cretes and

Arabians,

we do hear them speak in our tongues the wonderful works of God.

Since: Nov 08

usa

#431226 Apr 4, 2013
Catholics say that infants inherit their parent's sin at conception and are therefore spiritually condemned and totally wicked.... Ezekiel:18:20 The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.

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