4gvn, please read Luke 24: 13-35.Judged:
I'm not saying nothing of the sort.
All I'm saying is Christians had nothing written down for the first thirty yrs of the faith.
Why do you ignor the fact that the first christians DID have something written down. It was called the old testament. And had Jesus Himself gone against the teachings of the scriptures His followers would have rejected His message and His claims. The scriptures were and are GOD'S WORD, and God has the final authority and say on all matters of faith.
Perhaps you have heard this before Clay......"Jesus loves me, this I know....For the BIBLE tells me so."
I would also disagree with your belief that everyone looked to Clement and Ignatious as haveing the SAME credibility as the Apostles. The Apostles were given sign gifts to PROVE that they were empowered by God to do His work. That can not be said for those who followed.
And AGAIN you are casting doubt on the phrase,'Word of God'. You have given us YOUR definition and it is quite without merit or basis.
Your view of the word of God (the scriptures) is not in agreement with the scriptures themselves.
So perhaps it would clear things up a bit if you would tell us exactly what your view of the scriptures really is.
Do you believe that the bible IS the word of God?
Do you believe the bible CONTAINS the word of God?
Do you believe the bible is LITERALLY true?
the two men were walking with Jesus and did not know it. They did not recognize what Christ is
; why He was crucified. They did not understand the scriptures UNTIL, He sat down with them, took Bread, blessed it, He broke it and gave them the Eucharist.
Jesus never told the men, "here, read this then your eyes will be opened and you'll recognize me"
He gave them the Eucharist.
When Luther and Calvin undid this, they created a world of confusion with the scriptures... A doctrinal mess with 45,000 different opinions on Christianity. None of you can understand the scriptures, because you've eliminated the Eucharist and the Church upon which the scriptures came. Don't you see the fighting when we Catholics leave, and its just each other??