Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 20 comments on the Jul 10, 2007, CBC News story titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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Normand Guay

Winnipeg, Canada

#431168 Apr 4, 2013
Clay wrote:
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I mean that Jesus Christ never told anyone to put together a NT. He never said He wanted Matthew, Mark, Luke and John to pen memoirs about His Ministry and include them with 23 other Books to become the foundation of His Ministry.
--- Clay; I disagree and you are clueless and nuts;>>>AS IF JESUS CHRIST WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT AND GOD THE FATHER DID NOT PUT GOD'S HOLY SCRIPTURES TOGETHER... Clay you need to wake up... GET REAL...
7th Day Catholics Rock

Poplar Bluff, MO

#431169 Apr 4, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
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Again...what is your point?
Anyone can cut and paste verses from the Bible. very few understand what they post.
The point being scripture states BODY !!!!
hojo

Minneapolis, MN

#431170 Apr 4, 2013
jethro8 wrote:
<quoted text>Provide a single example of a doctrine that originates from an oral Apostolic Tradition that the Bible is silent about? Provide proof that this doctrinal tradition is apostolic in origin. and show oral proof the catholic church is the alleged true church.
Read the Catholic Catechism, and the Encyclicals which confirm and authenticate the TRUE TEACHINGS OF THE BIBLE----THE TRUE HISTORICAL CHURCH HISTORY WRITINGS ----and THE TRUE TEACHINGS OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH, as they parallel, confirm, validate, and substantiate EVERYTHING that Jesus taught, proclaimed and handed down to HIS Apostles over 2000 years ago. READ IT ALL --jethro8!! Then you can go "argue, discuss and debate with yourself in front of a mirror"!!
hahahahah

Charleston, WV

#431171 Apr 4, 2013
wow..its pretty obviuos what catholic stand for. pervert. look at yer priests and popes
Religion - A Delusion

Titusville, FL

#431172 Apr 4, 2013
hojo wrote:
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AH, HA! Now we have another Pharisee, who says "Jesus, why don't you come down from that Cross, and save yourself, so that we can ALL BELIEVE, that you are, who you say you are!!!
Yep, why not? "Myself, myself, why have I forsaken me?"

The never-ending absurdity is part of the delusion.

Ever wonder about Jesus' famous lamentation in Matthew 27:46:
About the ninth hour Jesus cried out in a loud voice, "Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani?"—which means, "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?"

Since Jesus is God, what he really must have meant is: "Myself, myself, why have I forsaken me?" Which of course makes absolutely no sense.

Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#431173 Apr 4, 2013
Normand Guay wrote:
<quoted text>--- Hermy; the four Gospels is really " MATT; MARK; LUKE AND JOHN "... AS PER THE HOLY SCRIPTURES; ALSO AS PER JESUS CHRIST...
Normand please explain. The point I was making was that the Books of the Bible were identified well before any Council canonized them. Are you saying we should focus on the 4 Gospels and not so much the other books of the NT. I really want to know what you are saying cause I could learn something.
Religion - A Delusion

Titusville, FL

#431174 Apr 4, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
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No need to thank "God" - but you can thank these Stanford scientists for coming up with an ingenious way to kill cancer cells:
http://www.foxnews.com/health/2013/03/27/scie...
To so-called "Christians" - "God works in mysterious ways."
To non-believers - Science did what "God" couldn't.
Fact - men through free will, chose to look into why the CD47 cell does what it does, and how can they change the action it takes.
No religion or "God" required to achieve this cure.
If "God" was involved - "He" would have provided this cure to men decades ago, instead of allowing many thousands of lives to be lost.
Think about the science. It IS anti-religion and true believers should avoid it.

Notice what happens when anyone is "miraculously cured". A person is sick, the person prays (or a prayer circle prays for the person) and the person is cured. A religious person looks at it and says, "God performed a miracle because of prayer!" That is the end of it.

A scientist looks at it in a very different way. A scientist looks at it and says, "Prayer had nothing to do with it - there is a natural cause for what we see here. If we understand the natural cause, then we can heal many more people suffering from the same condition."

In other words, it is only by assuming that the belief in prayer is a superstition that science can proceed.

Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#431175 Apr 4, 2013
Religion - A Delusion wrote:
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Yep, why not? "Myself, myself, why have I forsaken me?"
The never-ending absurdity is part of the delusion.
Ever wonder about Jesus' famous lamentation in Matthew 27:46:
About the ninth hour Jesus cried out in a loud voice, "Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani?"—which means, "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?"
Since Jesus is God, what he really must have meant is: "Myself, myself, why have I forsaken me?" Which of course makes absolutely no sense.
You are a bit confused about this. Jesus is God. the Father is od. The Holy Spirit is God.But They are 3 separate Persons. Jesus was praying to the Father, not to Himself.
Religion - A Delusion

Titusville, FL

#431176 Apr 4, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
who="Religion - A Delusion" Try praying--
What would happen if we get down on our knees and pray to God in this way:
Dear God, almighty, all-powerful, all-loving creator of the universe, we pray to you to cure every case of cancer on this planet tonight. We pray in faith, knowing you will bless us as you describe in Matthew 7:7, Matthew 17:20, Matthew 21:21, Mark 11:24, John 14:12-14, Matthew 18:19 and James 5:15-16. In Jesus' name we pray, Amen.
We pray sincerely, knowing that when God answers this completely heartfelt, unselfish, non-materialistic prayer, it will glorify God and help millions of people in remarkable ways.
Will anything happen? No. Of course not.
It's delusional.
**********
Some cancer is the result of eating certain things. Some is the result of certain behaviors (homosexuality).(yes, google it...there are 115,000 articles on the subject.)
God DOES heal cancer. But until He wipes sin out (which He will), there will remain some devastating results of sin. Part of the process involves WILLINGLY FORSAKING SIN. Many don't want to do that.
You can pray anything you want...but stamping your feet like a child will not influence God to work miracles for a people who deny Him.
KM
If cancer is caused by sin, then why bother trying to cure it?

You are delusional.

You want your cake and eat it too. Medical science is anti-religion. It does not believe cancer is caused by sin. Science rejects prayer and mysticism. It looks for natural causes and cures.

When your go to a medical doctor, you are rejecting your delusions, which isn't a bad thing.
7th Day Catholics Rock

Poplar Bluff, MO

#431177 Apr 4, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
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PLEASE TELL ME WHEN THE HOLY SPIRIT DIED...AND THAT HE IS NOT ALIVE AND WELL..
OR
at least attempt to convenes us that THE HOLY GHOLT CANNOT GUIDE TRANSLATORS TODAY AS WELL AS IN THE PAST.
WHEN DID THE WORD OF JESUS COME TO AN END---
JESUS SAID...(GENEVA BIBLE 1599)
Joh 16:13 Howbeit, when he is come which is the Spirit of trueth, he will leade you into all trueth: for he shall not speake of himselfe, but whatsoeuer he shall heare, shall he speake, and he will shew you the things to come.
Again I remind you... GOD IS NOT LIMITED TO TIME AND SPACE..
NOR IS HE CONTROLLED BY THE IGNORANCE OF MEN...
Never said that THE HOLY SPIRIT DIED...AND THAT HE IS NOT ALIVE AND WELL..
If they had been inspired during translation there would not be all the confusion there is today. Gods word does not contradict itself period.
Clay

Chicago, IL

#431178 Apr 4, 2013
Normand Guay wrote:
<quoted text>--- Clay; I disagree and you are clueless and nuts;>>>AS IF JESUS CHRIST WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT AND GOD THE FATHER DID NOT PUT GOD'S HOLY SCRIPTURES TOGETHER... Clay you need to wake up... GET REAL...
I said I believe the Holy Spirit guided the Church when they put the Bible together. Jesus also put the Church together ya know?

Besides, what good is the Bible to you guys when you reject so much of what the Apostles taught??
Clay

Chicago, IL

#431179 Apr 4, 2013
4GVN wrote:
Judged:
Clay wrote:
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I'm not saying nothing of the sort.
All I'm saying is Christians had nothing written down for the first thirty yrs of the faith.
..........
RESPONSE:
Why do you ignor the fact that the first christians DID have something written down. It was called the old testament. And had Jesus Himself gone against the teachings of the scriptures His followers would have rejected His message and His claims. The scriptures were and are GOD'S WORD, and God has the final authority and say on all matters of faith.
Perhaps you have heard this before Clay......"Jesus loves me, this I know....For the BIBLE tells me so."
I would also disagree with your belief that everyone looked to Clement and Ignatious as haveing the SAME credibility as the Apostles. The Apostles were given sign gifts to PROVE that they were empowered by God to do His work. That can not be said for those who followed.
And AGAIN you are casting doubt on the phrase,'Word of God'. You have given us YOUR definition and it is quite without merit or basis.
Your view of the word of God (the scriptures) is not in agreement with the scriptures themselves.
So perhaps it would clear things up a bit if you would tell us exactly what your view of the scriptures really is.
Do you believe that the bible IS the word of God?
Do you believe the bible CONTAINS the word of God?
Do you believe the bible is LITERALLY true?
4gvn, please read Luke 24: 13-35.

the two men were walking with Jesus and did not know it. They did not recognize what Christ is
; why He was crucified. They did not understand the scriptures UNTIL, He sat down with them, took Bread, blessed it, He broke it and gave them the Eucharist.
Jesus never told the men, "here, read this then your eyes will be opened and you'll recognize me"

He gave them the Eucharist.

When Luther and Calvin undid this, they created a world of confusion with the scriptures... A doctrinal mess with 45,000 different opinions on Christianity. None of you can understand the scriptures, because you've eliminated the Eucharist and the Church upon which the scriptures came. Don't you see the fighting when we Catholics leave, and its just each other??

“OneLordOneFaith Eph4:5”

Since: Apr 08

Saint John Paul II Pray 4 Us.

#431180 Apr 4, 2013
Protestant Minister writes:‘I’m joining the Catholic Church”

Each year on Holy Saturday — the day before Easter, when Christians celebrate the resurrection of Jesus — the Catholic Church receives many men and women wishing to convert. New members are welcomed through the Rite of Christian Initiation of Adults, in which non-baptized men and women are officially recognized as a members of the church.

They must complete a process of conversion as they study the Gospel, profess faith in Jesus Christ and receive the sacraments of baptism, Holy Eucharist, and confirmation. For some, the entire process may take several years.

http://www.catholic-convert.com/2013/03/25/a-...

“OneLordOneFaith Eph4:5”

Since: Apr 08

Saint John Paul II Pray 4 Us.

#431181 Apr 4, 2013
NEW CONVERTS

Some 150,000 Americans will officially become Catholics this Holy Saturday, celebrating a time, in the Christian world, of repentance and renewal. The large number of those converting to Roman Catholicism comes despite the sexual abuse scandal that has rocked the church over the past few years.

Catholic clergy and scholars say those who come into the church have various reasons for doing so. Some are inspired by family members who are Catholic, while others find the church as they explore faith groups until they feel at home.

And still more are those who were baptized but never really practiced until adulthood.

Each year on Holy Saturday — the day before Easter, when Christians celebrate the resurrection of Jesus — the Catholic Church receives many men and women wishing to convert. New members are welcomed through the Rite of Christian Initiation of Adults, in which non-baptized men and women are officially recognized as a members of the church.

They must complete a process of conversion as they study the Gospel, profess faith in Jesus Christ and receive the sacraments of baptism, Holy Eucharist, and confirmation. For some, the entire process may take several years.
ABC NEWS

“OneLordOneFaith Eph4:5”

Since: Apr 08

Saint John Paul II Pray 4 Us.

#431182 Apr 4, 2013
socci wrote:
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There is nothing in the Bible about praying to saints -- thus it is only your opinion. God's word does not support your opinions.
John 16:23 "...whatsoever you shall ask the Father in my name, he will give it to you."
Nothing about asking saints or the 'virgin mary'. The pope and Roman Church have OPINIONS & traditions of MAN. The inspired Bible does not have opinion.
Mt 15:9 "But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men."
Such is the history of the harlot in Rome.
Regarding traditions…..

2 Thess 2:25
14To this end he has [also] called you through our gospel to possess the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ.h 15Therefore, brothers,

stand firm and

hold fast

to the traditions that you were taught,

either by an oral statement or by a letter of ours.*

JESUS said ‘pray for each other’
REV 8:
3Another angel came and stood at the altar,* holding a gold censer. He was given a great quantity of incense to offer, ALONG WITH THE PRAYERS OF ALL THE HOLY ONES, on the gold altar that was before the throne.
[Saints =‘holy ones’]

James 5:16
Therefore confess your sins to each other and PRAY for each other so that you may be healed. The prayer of a righteous person is powerful and effective.

1 Thessalonians 3:12-13
May the Lord make your love increase and overflow for each other and for everyone else ... May he strengthen
your hearts so that you will be blameless and holy in the presence of our God and Father when our Lord Jesus comes
with all HIS HOLY ONES.

So goes soc the harlot.

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#431185 Apr 4, 2013
110
Preston wrote:
<quoted text>perhaps you then arent as smart as you think that you are?
I think, rather, that you put your foot in your mouth and have no way to save face.

BTW...speaking of not being smart...its aren't......

Since: Nov 08

usa

#431186 Apr 4, 2013
hojo wrote:
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NO! Yours is just like most "fundies"!.... One bible verse (cafeteria style) pick and choose "editorialized opinion" after another. It's better know as just "making it up" as you go along!1
i'm not part of the Vatican council that changes it's beliefs/traditions as the times change,if the legend is true you have to stick with the writings of the scriptures as is,you can not change anything because it is gods word and it is final,no religious cult has the right to do anything, except follow gods word and the catholic church does not do that.the church is so guilty of crimes,one of your popes wrote a letter of apology going back to the atrocities of the church in it's early days,i know so because he apologized for how Galileo was mistreated by the church,and what he was saying/teaching was the truth,and the church hates the truth. they want you to stay blind to the truth,and you follow their orders very well.

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#431187 Apr 4, 2013
111
Preston wrote:
Shabbat (Hebrew: &#1513;&#1463;&#14 73;&#1489;&#1464;& #1468;&#1514;&#8206;, "rest" or "cessation") or Shabbos (Yiddish: &#1513;&#1488;&#14 89;&#1468;&#1506;& #1505;) is the Jewish day of rest and seventh day of the week, on which they remember the traditional creation of the heavens and the earth in six days
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shabbat
Its also in the English dictionary...but it is not in Scripture...

Now you not only have your foot in your mouth....you have added egg on your face!!!!

“OneLordOneFaith Eph4:5”

Since: Apr 08

Saint John Paul II Pray 4 Us.

#431188 Apr 4, 2013
waaasssuuup wrote:
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if the eucharist isn't strictly a roman/pagan institution, why is it that only a catholic priest can do the hocus pocus necessary for the 'transubstantiation'(also completely pagan/roman terminology)?
Jesus explains what He was talking about in latter verses when His disciples asked Him about eating His flesh and drinking His blood; "the flesh profits nothing; My WORDS are SPIRIT and they are life" Jesus
Regarding transubstantiation…..
Because your church is a phony church started by mortal man! That's why!
A non-appointed minister can not do [Lk 24: 24-30, John 6:53]‘transubstantiation’ JESUS only gave the Gift to HIS Apostles.

Jesus’ said I am the truth and the life that comes from heaven. He said I am with you always. He is the bread that comes from heaven.

Jesus appointed the Apostles to carry on His ONE and ONLY TRUE CHURCH. Priests are appointed by their successors.. Your church is NOT part of the Church started by Jesus Christ. Laying of the hands is Apostolic succession!! Acts 1:20-26

Some followers walked away, b/c they did not believe the bread was his flesh or the wine was his blood……......this is you.
Religion - A Delusion

Titusville, FL

#431189 Apr 4, 2013
Hermeneutics Smutics wrote:
<quoted text>You are a bit confused about this. Jesus is God. the Father is od. The Holy Spirit is God.But They are 3 separate Persons. Jesus was praying to the Father, not to Himself.
No one is confused. It's a delusion.

You say Jesus is God. So when Jesus prays, does he pray to himself? Somehow that makes sense, but only based on a delusion.

Imagine that we are good friends. One day we are talking:

Me: Wow, you will not believe this new book I've been reading!

You: What's it about?

Me: It is a manual for living a better life. It is also a guide to creating a better society for ourselves and our children. It has changed my life!

You: That sounds like an important book. Who wrote it?

Me: The author is supposed to be the smartest person in the universe.

You: That's amazing -- if the author is the smartest person in the universe, the book must be absolutely brilliant. I can't wait to see it. Do you have a copy with you?

Me: Absolutely! I carry it with me everywhere I go! Here, have a look for yourself...

You open the book to a random page, and you find this:

Consecrate yourselves therefore, and be holy; for I am the Lord your God. Keep my statutes, and observe them; I am the Lord; I sanctify you.

All who curse father or mother shall be put to death; having cursed father or mother, their blood is upon them.

If a man commits adultery with the wife of his neighbour, both the adulterer and the adulteress shall be put to death. The man who lies with his father's wife has uncovered his father's nakedness; both of them shall be put to death; their blood is upon them.

If a man lies with his daughter-in-law, both of them shall be put to death; they have committed perversion; their blood is upon them.

To accept this banter as from the creator of it all is delusional. It's absurd. A teenager could do better.

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