Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 20 comments on the Jul 10, 2007, CBC News story titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#431127 Apr 4, 2013
Tiger Lily wrote:
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Another weirdo on this forum.
Another one who takes it upon themselves to judge others.
The hypocrisy of so-called "Christians".

DOH!!

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Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#431128 Apr 4, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
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Clueless....and uninformed.
"The series originated with the first printed Greek New Testament, published in 1516"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Textus_Receptus
- Why do you think a book published 1100 years after one published in the 4th century is more accurate?
7th Day Catholics Rock wrote:
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We are seeing Bible Prophecy being fulfilled, and this is one verse that is majorly being fulfilled.
Dan 12:4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book,[even] to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.
"many shall run to and fro" describes these times!
Some of the scoffers [2 Peter 3:3]say well times have always been like this. Yes there always has been tribulation in this world, but to ignore even the increased incredible changes and expanse in knowledge is to ignore what the Bible tells us.
To make sense of everything and to avoid drowning in information, today it is imperative to listen to God and His Word. The knowledge we seek must be God's
2Pe 3:18 But grow in grace, and [in] the knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. To him [be] glory both now and for ever. Amen.
Your post has nothing to do with mine, nor the forum's topic.

What is your point?

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#431129 Apr 4, 2013
7th Day Catholics Rock wrote:
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1 Corinthians 15:40-44
King James Version (KJV)
40 There are also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another.
41 There is one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars: for one star differeth from another star in glory.
42 So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption:
43 It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power:
44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
Again...what is your point?

Anyone can cut and paste verses from the Bible. very few understand what they post.
Religion - A Delusion

Titusville, FL

#431130 Apr 4, 2013
hojo wrote:
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Oh, you mean like some new "gig, idea or editorialized opinion" that "springs up, surfaces, and changes every (single day), depending on which way the (ever changing) "fundie" biblical or historical (relative truth) "wind happens to blow"!! You bible only believers have been doing this (inventing, making up and rewriting of Church History) since Martin Luther came on the scene over 450 years ago. Want proof!!! Just look at ALL of new bible only denominations that have and are "still" being concocted each and every day (42,000 contradicting hodge-podge Protestant "man-made" (cults) in which ALL claim to have the truth!!------YES--(as you say) "something interesting, something new" -----so that you can continue to be religiously and spiritually ENTERTAINED. The fact is that the Historical and Biblical PROVEN TRUTH of Jesus Christ message of faith, salvation and hope, which has, is and will CONTINUE to be in Jesus Christ and His One (and only one) TRUE Apostolic Catholic Church, was initiated over 2000 years NOT to "entertain you", but to lead you to the TRUTH, which you continue to "reject"!!
This delusional one claims to have the keys to Heaven - as long as he eats the magic wafer every Sunday.

He is superior because his wafer really turns into flesh - but nobody can see it -- as opposed to a wafer that doesn't really turn into flesh.

Why not reproduce such magic tricks for the world to actually witness?

Because delusions cannot be witnessed by others.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#431131 Apr 4, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
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THE NEW AGE PERSON HERE ON THIS FORM DOES NOT CLAIM TO BE A CHRISTIAN, AND OBVIOUSLY... HE..SHE..OR...IT..WHATEVER THE GENDER..IS NOT.
Not a "Christian" - correct.

He, GiF - this has been stated numerous times.
confrinting with the word wrote:
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THE BIBLE SAYS
Eph_5:11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.
No "Paul" says.

Here's what Jesus says in retort:
(2) Jesus says:

(1) "The one who seeks should not cease seeking until he finds.
(2) And when he finds, he will be dismayed.
(3) And when he is dismayed, he will be astonished.
(4) And he will be king over the All."

(3) Jesus says:

(1) "If those who lead you say to you:‘Look, the kingdom is in the sky!’
then the birds of the sky will precede you.
(2) If they say to you:‘It is in the sea,’ then the fishes will precede you.
(3) Rather, the kingdom is inside of you, and outside of you."
(4) "When you come to know yourselves, then you will be known,
and you will realize that you are the children of the living Father.
(5) But if you do not come to know yourselves, then you exist in poverty, and you are poverty."

http://www.gnosis.org/naghamm/gth_pat_rob.htm

Jesus trumps "Paul".
Religion - A Delusion

Titusville, FL

#431132 Apr 4, 2013
A normal human being might question faith any god that supposedly set-up such an institution.

http://www.kamloopsnews.ca/article/GB/2013040...

Did god really say that the children had to come through this to be fully saved?

Of course not. It's delusional and beyond common human decency.

"Come to me children." Over 5000 to testify.
Normand Guay

Winnipeg, Canada

#431133 Apr 4, 2013
Clay wrote:
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I'm not disagreeing on the 4 Gospels. But you said 'per Jesus Christ' the 4 Gospels are Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. I don't think Christ named the Gospels (nor any Book in the NT)
--- Clay; as if JESUS CHRIST did not name the 4 Gospels with the HOLY SPIRIT OF GOD... The True NEW TESTAMENT OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST started with JESUS CHRIST HIMSELF and the four Gospels of MATT; MARK; LUKE; AND JOHN...------- MATT; MARK; LUKE; AND JOHN are the Most Important Books of the TRUE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST ; because it is all about JESUS CHRIST and what JESUS CHRIST did on the Cross to save us and redeem us... Hope to meet you in Heaven with all the SAINTS...Thankyou...

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#431134 Apr 4, 2013
Tiger Lily wrote:
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NASL is New Age Spiritual Leader. He/she has little faith in man made writings such as the gospels. Shame.
Correct, little faith in man-made writings. I prefer to believe in a "Supreme Being", without others having to tell me HOW to believe.

"Shame?"
- Why? Doyou know something I don't about life after death?
- Have you experienced life after death?
- Why do you believe men?

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Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#431135 Apr 4, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
T.L. Don't be frustrated by this person. He/she will not discuss a subject, but scold you, and repeatedly ask why YOU don't believe in Jesus. Very mind-bending.
KM
Funny thing about your post - you have yet to explain why you don't believe in all of what Jesus taught?

Very mind-bending indeed. Why don't you believe Jesus?

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Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#431136 Apr 4, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
who="Tiger Lily"
You sure like to make a lot of claims. But can you support them? Let's see what claims you think are accurate. Please provide links and evidence that what you say is correct and truthful:
a. He proved to Thomas that He was not.
b. by rising from the ground to ascend to Heaven just as the resurrected believers will be.
c. God alone is immortal.
d. Jesus was not or He could not have died on the cross. He is NOW immortal just as we will be when we put on immortality at the Second Coming.
Answers...
a. John 20:27 Look at my hands and my feet. It is I myself!(Jesus) Touch me and see; a ghost does not have flesh and bones, as you see I have."
b. The Ascension of Jesus is professed in the Nicene Creed and in the Apostles' Creed. The Ascension implies Jesus' humanity being taken into Heaven. The Feast of the Ascension, celebrated on the 40th day of Easter (always a Thursday), is one of the chief feasts of the Christian year. The feast dates back at least to the later 4th century, as is widely attested. The Ascension is one of the five major milestones in the gospel narrative of the life of Jesus, the others being Baptism, Transfiguration, Crucifixion, and Resurrection
c. Timothy 6:16 Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen.
d. Self evident. Jesus DIED on the cross. If He was immortal, He could not have died. If Christ ad not died for us you are still in your sins. His sacrifice would have meant nothing.
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Jesus was GOD IN THE FLESH. Jesus/God is immortal. Jesus' body was human/mortal, as ours is. It could die, just as ours can. God breathed into Adam, and he became a LIVING soul. Our spirit is immortal. God's plan for us is immortality. Jesus came as a man to show us that God CAN/WILL raise us up to eternal life...if we will allow Him to live in us.
...and yet....Jesus never called himself such - he called himself "The Son of Man".

"Our spirit is immortal."
- tell that to TL - she thinks it isn't. Bummer for her, huh?

"if we will allow Him to live in us."
- appears to me that you are missing a good portion of his teachings in order to achieve this goal.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#431137 Apr 4, 2013
hojo wrote:
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Why do you "personally editorialize" and "opinionize" the words of Jesus!!
I don't. I've accepted his teachings for what they mean.

I've moved past the words and understand their meanings.

So again, you are incorrect in your analysis.
Normand Guay

Winnipeg, Canada

#431138 Apr 4, 2013
Clay wrote:
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I'm not disagreeing on the 4 Gospels. But you said 'per Jesus Christ' the 4 Gospels are Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. I don't think Christ named the Gospels (nor any Book in the NT)
--- Clay; what do you mean when you write that [Quote "I don't think Christ named the Gospels ]--- Clay is it because you believe CHRIST is dead??? Clay JESUS CHRIST IS ALIVE AND ACTIVE IN HIS CHURCH NOW AND FOREVER...JESUS CHRIST IS COMING SOON... Thankyou...
MICHAEL

Hamilton, Canada

#431139 Apr 4, 2013
Religion - A Delusion wrote:
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This delusional one claims to have the keys to Heaven - as long as he eats the magic wafer every Sunday.
He is superior because his wafer really turns into flesh - but nobody can see it -- as opposed to a wafer that doesn't really turn into flesh.
Why not reproduce such magic tricks for the world to actually witness?
Because delusions cannot be witnessed by others.
When a person is taught the same thing over and over from childhood no matter how biazzare it seems to others, it doesn't seem bazzare at all to the ones who learned only that.

Organized indoctrinated religion is the great divider in our world.
Religion - A Delusion

Titusville, FL

#431140 Apr 4, 2013
Look at historical gods--

The belief in "god" seems to be ubiquitous through the ages.

We know, for example, that the ancient Egyptians believed in their gods so fervently that they built massive structures like the Great Pyramid -- still today one of the largest and most enduring human constructions ever created. Despite that fervor, however, we know with complete certainty today that the Egyptian gods were imaginary. There is no evidence of their existence. Thus we do not build pyramids anymore and we do not mummify our leaders.

More recently we know that tens of millions of Romans worshiped Jupiter and his friends, and to them they built magnificent temples. The ruins of these temples are popular tourist attractions even today. Yet we know with complete certainty that these gods were imaginary. There is no evidence for their existence and thus no one worships Zeus any more.

Much more recently, we know that the Aztec civilization believed in their gods so intensely that they constructed huge temples and pyramids. In addition, Aztecs were so zealous that they were sacrificing hundreds of human beings to their gods as recently as the 16th century. Despite the intensity, however, we know today that these gods were completely imaginary. The Aztecs were insane to be murdering people for their gods. Killing a person has no effect on rainfall or anything else. We all know that. And there is no evidence whatsoever demonstrating that the Aztec gods exist. If the Aztec gods were real, we would still be offering sacrifices to them and these sacrifices would be effective.

Today's "God" is just as imaginary as were these historical gods. The fact that millions of people worship a god is meaningless.

It's a delusion.
MICHAEL

Hamilton, Canada

#431141 Apr 4, 2013
A recent CNN poll indicates that today 58%(and rising) of roman catholics are in favor same sex marriage. 38%(and going down) are against. 4% had no opinion.

Religion - A Delusion

Titusville, FL

#431142 Apr 4, 2013
Try praying--

What would happen if we get down on our knees and pray to God in this way:

Dear God, almighty, all-powerful, all-loving creator of the universe, we pray to you to cure every case of cancer on this planet tonight. We pray in faith, knowing you will bless us as you describe in Matthew 7:7, Matthew 17:20, Matthew 21:21, Mark 11:24, John 14:12-14, Matthew 18:19 and James 5:15-16. In Jesus' name we pray, Amen.

We pray sincerely, knowing that when God answers this completely heartfelt, unselfish, non-materialistic prayer, it will glorify God and help millions of people in remarkable ways.

Will anything happen? No. Of course not.

It's delusional.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#431144 Apr 4, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
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The hypocrisy of so-called "Christians".
DOH!!
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YOU EVIDENTLY BELIEVE you are the sharpest knife in the drawer..

WITH YOUR NEW AGE DECEITFUL BALONEY...

and believe you are qualified to judge Christians...

BUT SINCE YOU POSTED THAT YOU ARE NOT A CHRISTIAN....


All you are an accuser...

YOU USE NO SCRIPTURE TO VALIDATE YOUR DEBATE OR REBUTTAL ALL YOU HAVE IS EMPTY REMARKS...

Rev_12:10 And I heard a loud voice in heaven, saying: Now is come salvation and strength and the kingdom of our God and the power of his Christ: because the accuser of our brethren is cast forth, who accused them before our God day and night.
Clay

Chicago, IL

#431145 Apr 4, 2013
Normand Guay wrote:
<quoted text>--- Clay; what do you mean when you write that [Quote "I don't think Christ named the Gospels ]--- Clay is it because you believe CHRIST is dead??? Clay JESUS CHRIST IS ALIVE AND ACTIVE IN HIS CHURCH NOW AND FOREVER...JESUS CHRIST IS COMING SOON... Thankyou...
I mean that Jesus Christ never told anyone to put together a NT. He never said He wanted Matthew, Mark, Luke and John to pen memoirs about His Ministry and include them with 23 other Books to become the foundation of His Ministry.
Although it is true that the Holy Spirit guided the Church on the compilation of the Bible. It is also true that the Holy Spirit guides the Church. Period.
hojo

Minneapolis, MN

#431146 Apr 4, 2013
jethro8 wrote:
<quoted text>the bible has authority over your man made written Catholic Catechism and the Encyclicals,show me something outside of catholic web sites that support the Catholic Catechism and the Encyclicals.
The Catholic Church (Jesus Christs One True Church) was established initiated and founded by Jesus HIMSELF, with HIS DIVINE AUTHORITY, it was given to His Apostles who were Bishops, priests and deacons (Acts 2) and their AUTHORITY delegated and handed down to those Bishops, priests and deacons that followed Jesus' Apostles....... The DIVINE AUTHORITY of Jesus has been handed down, through the succession of the Apostles for over 2000 years.through Jesus Christ One True Catholic Church!.....FURTHERMORE Jesus said "all AUTHORITY has been given unto me in both heaven and earth."---and I give IT to whoever I chose--and (as he told His Apostles) I give that AUTHORITY to you to go and make disciples of all nations ---baptising them in the name.of the father.......... teaching to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you! Jesus NEVER said that the authority is in the "bible alone"! Jesus NEVER wrote anything down! HE NEVER passed out bibles to anyone..... The oral (unwritten) teachings of Jesus were the "only source of TRUTH" at that time, that were passed on to the Apostles....Paul "CONFIRMS" this in I Timothy 3:15 when he calls "THE CHURCH (not the bible alone) is the pillare, pinnacle and foundation of the TRUTH. The AUTHORITY of TRUTH is in Jesus Christ and His One True Catholic Church. The Catholic Catechism and the Encyclicals represent the TRUE INTERPRETATION of the Bible, the TRUE DOCUMENTED Church Historical authenticated records and the TRUTH of Jesus teachings as recorded in the Gospels. The bible "compliments and parallels the writings and TRUE interpretive "translations" in the ENCYCLICALS and in the Catholic Catechism. Jesus Christs One True (Universal-Catholic Church) is the "final AUTHORITY"--not the bible alone!! Paul says it, confirms it, validates it, and clearly sanctions it, in the bible (! Timothy 3:15). Just like always, jethro8! You "continue" to have "no idea" as to what you are talking about, which is NO SURPRISE to ANY of us Catholics who KNOW THE TRUTH!!!
Clay

Chicago, IL

#431147 Apr 4, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
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The two most reliable books OF the four Gospels are
MATTHEW AND JOHN..
THEY WERE EYE WITNESSES...THERE WERE THERE WITH JESUS.
Interesting. Is Luke and Mark not reliable then?

Also, Matthew and John have the most 'Catholic' stuff in it. So I'm surprised you'd hold those two Gospels above all the other Books.

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