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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 596660 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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7th Day Catholics Rock

Poplar Bluff, MO

#431067 Apr 3, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
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Clueless....and uninformed.
"The series originated with the first printed Greek New Testament, published in 1516"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Textus_Receptus
- Why do you think a book published 1100 years after one published in the 4th century is more accurate?
We are seeing Bible Prophecy being fulfilled, and this is one verse that is majorly being fulfilled.

Dan 12:4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book,[even] to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.

"many shall run to and fro" describes these times!

Some of the scoffers [2 Peter 3:3]say well times have always been like this. Yes there always has been tribulation in this world, but to ignore even the increased incredible changes and expanse in knowledge is to ignore what the Bible tells us.

To make sense of everything and to avoid drowning in information, today it is imperative to listen to God and His Word. The knowledge we seek must be God's

2Pe 3:18 But grow in grace, and [in] the knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. To him [be] glory both now and for ever. Amen.
7th Day Catholics Rock

Poplar Bluff, MO

#431068 Apr 3, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
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Because it is allegoric. Symbolism of the Spirit rising. Nothing more, nothing less.
Man has changed it around to be "in bodily form" Mark sure never included it.
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Speculation that goes along with the addition verses in GoMark. This has never been proven.
Please remember - your belief in this is purely upon "Faith" - one of the primary aspects of Self [being/consiciusness/mind/Spir it]- due to other men telling you this occurred, even though they do not have exact information.
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That is because you believe men over Jesus.
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Oh - you don't have to expound upon your belief - I know all about it. And that is why I chose to help put people on the right path - one that utilizes all of what Jesus taught and not just teh pieces that men have presented.
"This is what the Bible plainly teaches. No bias put in by any man."
- oh there is biasness
- you just are so diluted in the wrong belief, you can't see it.
Why do you believe men?
1 Corinthians 15:40-44

King James Version (KJV)


40 There are also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another.

41 There is one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars: for one star differeth from another star in glory.

42 So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption:

43 It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power:

44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#431069 Apr 3, 2013
053 012
Tiger Lily wrote:
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Oxbow, is there any record in scripture that Jesus went anywhere other than the locality of Jerusalem?
There may be but perhaps I have forgotten.
Why would that consign me to Hell?
NASL believes the Bible was altered to suit the beliefs of those who compiled it. How say you?
It teaches He went to paradise..that is not in the locality of Jerusalem. He went to Heaven...that is also not in the locality of Jerusalem.

Looking strictly at my above response...it has nothing to do with you consigned to hell.

Have no idea who NASL is..they, whoever they are, have a God given right to believe as they wish.

The Baptist Faith and Message

I. The Scriptures

The Holy Bible was written by men divinely inspired and is God's revelation of Himself to man. It is a perfect treasure of divine instruction. It has God for its author, salvation for its end, and truth, without any mixture of error, for its matter. Therefore, all Scripture is totally true and trustworthy. It reveals the principles by which God judges us, and therefore is, and will remain to the end of the world, the true center of Christian union, and the supreme standard by which all human conduct, creeds, and religious opinions should be tried. All Scripture is a testimony to Christ, who is Himself the focus of divine revelation.

Exodus 24:4; Deuteronomy 4:1-2; 17:19; Joshua 8:34; Psalms 19:7-10; 119:11,89,105,140; Isaiah 34:16; 40:8; Jeremiah 15:16; 36:1-32; Matthew 5:17-18; 22:29; Luke 21:33; 24:44-46; John 5:39; 16:13-15; 17:17; Acts 2:16ff.; 17:11; Romans 15:4; 16:25-26; 2 Timothy 3:15-17; Hebrews 1:1-2; 4:12; 1 Peter 1:25; 2 Peter 1:19-21.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#431070 Apr 3, 2013
Tiger Lily wrote:
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It simply means I went regularly to a church and understood the teaching thereof. I changed denomination in 1972.
No doubt you have a peculiar definition of Christian so I won't indulge you.
I suppose you claim to be a "New Age" "Christian" with enlightenment far beyond the likes of me.
Simple Bible discussion would soon turn into a fiasco with your doubts. How thick is your Bible after you have torn out all the pages with forgeries or man written ideas?
Two pages?
~~~

GOING INTO A CHURCH DOES NOT MAKE AN INDIVIDUAL A CHRISTIAN ANY MORE THAN GOING INTO A GARAGE MAKES THEM AN AUTOMOBILE..

I WILL REPHRASE MY QUESTION ...

DO YOU KNOW JESUS CHRIST TO THE FULL PARDON OF YOU SINS?..

ARE YOU BORN AGAIN?...

I HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH NEW AGE CONFUSION..OF FACE..

THE NEW AGE PERSON HERE ON THIS FORM DOES NOT CLAIM TO BE A CHRISTIAN, AND OBVIOUSLY... HE..SHE..OR...IT..WHATEVER THE GENDER..IS NOT.

THE BIBLE SAYS

Eph_5:11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#431071 Apr 3, 2013
066
Tiger Lily wrote:
<quoted text>
Another weirdo on this forum.
Another one who takes it upon themselves to judge others.
WHICH VERSION OF THE BIBLE IS INFALLIBLE???
You haven't answered that yet!
Oh, yes. It must be a popish bible like the Rhiems Douay.
Am not judging you...am simply saying, and your words prove it, you are changing Scripture to make it say what you want it to say....

And giving you sound advice.....nothing else...
Tiger Lily

New Zealand

#431072 Apr 3, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
053 012

It teaches He went to paradise..that is not in the locality of Jerusalem. He went to Heaven...that is also not in the locality of Jerusalem.
Looking strictly at my above response...it has nothing to do with you consigned to hell.
Have no idea who NASL is..they, whoever they are, have a God given right to believe as they wish.
The Baptist Faith and Message
I. The Scriptures
The Holy Bible was written by men divinely inspired and is God's revelation of Himself to man. It is a perfect treasure of divine instruction. It has God for its author, salvation for its end, and truth, without any mixture of error, for its matter. Therefore, all Scripture is totally true and trustworthy. It reveals the principles by which God judges us, and therefore is, and will remain to the end of the world, the true center of Christian union, and the supreme standard by which all human conduct, creeds, and religious opinions should be tried. All Scripture is a testimony to Christ, who is Himself the focus of divine revelation.
Exodus 24:4; Deuteronomy 4:1-2; 17:19; Joshua 8:34; Psalms 19:7-10; 119:11,89,105,140; Isaiah 34:16; 40:8; Jeremiah 15:16; 36:1-32; Matthew 5:17-18; 22:29; Luke 21:33; 24:44-46; John 5:39; 16:13-15; 17:17; Acts 2:16ff.; 17:11; Romans 15:4; 16:25-26; 2 Timothy 3:15-17; Hebrews 1:1-2; 4:12; 1 Peter 1:25; 2 Peter 1:19-21.
Jesus was seen by a crowd ascending into Heaven (going upward through the clouds) 40 days after he was crucified.

He was not in Heaven / Paradise on the day he was on the cross.

This proves Jesus said that day, You will be with me in Paradise.

NASL is New Age Spiritual Leader. He/she has little faith in man made writings such as the gospels. Shame.

I agree with all the above.
Tiger Lily

New Zealand

#431073 Apr 3, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
066
<quoted text>
Am not judging you...am simply saying, and your words prove it, you are changing Scripture to make it say what you want it to say....
And giving you sound advice.....nothing else...
I didn't punctuate the Bible.
I didn't put the comma in the wrong place.

It is ridiculous to think Jesus was in Heaven on Good Friday when we are told He was in the grave 3 days and 3 nights.

Anyway, have it whatever way you want it but it is inconsistent with truth and common logic.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#431074 Apr 3, 2013
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
NO---But YOU DO!! In your bible only (bogus) interpretation, in which you are constantly "editorializing your anti-catholic personal opinion, which are just plain LIES!!
I POSTED THIS BEFORE AND YOU DODGE THE BUILT...

So you refuse the words of Jesus as any confirmed infidel would... Just as the devil has....

what did Jesus mean when he said IT IS WRITTEN... IT IS WRITTEN...IS REFEREED TO...

69 TIMED IN THE NEW TESTAMENT ALONE

69 verses found,
Matthew 9 verses found
Mark 7 verses found
Luke 8 verses found
John 5 verses found
Acts 5 verses found
Romans 16 verses found
1 Corinthians 9 verses
2 Corinthians 3 verses
Galatians 4 verses
Hebrews 1 verse found
1 Peter 1 verse found
1 John 1 verse found BOOKS ...

IS REFEREED TO... 37 TIMED IN THE NEW TESTAMENT ALONE 37 VERSES.FOUND

Matthew 1 verse found
Mark 1 verse found
Luke 4 verses found
John 1 verse found
Acts 2 verses found
Galatians 1 verse found
Philippians 1 verse found
Hebrews 2 verses found
Revelation 24 verses found

WHAT IS IT THAT A PERSON CAN STUDY IF HE ONLY HAS HEARSAY.

.and no book

2Ti 2:14 Of these things put them in remembrance, charging them before the Lord that they strive not about words to no profit, but to the subverting of the hearers.

2Ti 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. 2Ti 2:16 But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness.

YOUR AVERSION TO THE BOOK (BIBLE) EVIDENTLY ACCOUNTS FOR YOUR profane and vain babbling: AND the INCREASED OF more ungodliness.

IN THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH...

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I ASSUME YOUR CATECHISM IS A BOOK...THAT IS WRITTEN...

DO YOU NOT CITE IT...

IS NOT (what you call) THE HISTORY OF THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH ...WRITTEN DOWN..

YOUR ARGUMENT AGAINST THE BOOK...THE BIBLE any book....IS BEYOND COMPREHENSION..

I POSTED THE ABOVE (13 hrs ago )

EVIDENTLY YOU HAVE NO ANSWER

YOU HAVE JUST DANCED AROUND AS YOU USUALLY DO...AND EXPECTED ME TO FORGET THAT YOU HAVE NO SCRIPTURE IN ANY Bible TO SUBSTANTIATE YOUR FABLES/CONJECURE.
Tiger Lily

New Zealand

#431075 Apr 3, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
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GOING INTO A CHURCH DOES NOT MAKE AN INDIVIDUAL A CHRISTIAN ANY MORE THAN GOING INTO A GARAGE MAKES THEM AN AUTOMOBILE..
I WILL REPHRASE MY QUESTION ...
DO YOU KNOW JESUS CHRIST TO THE FULL PARDON OF YOU SINS?..
ARE YOU BORN AGAIN?...
I HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH NEW AGE CONFUSION..OF FACE..
THE NEW AGE PERSON HERE ON THIS FORM DOES NOT CLAIM TO BE A CHRISTIAN, AND OBVIOUSLY... HE..SHE..OR...IT..WHATEVER THE GENDER..IS NOT.
THE BIBLE SAYS
Eph_5:11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.
I am fully aware of what a Christian is or should be.
I do know my Saviour Jesus. I have nevertheless times when doubts arise when I read some of the responses here.
Am I supposed to have faith in the Bible?
I absolutely do. But some here cast aspersions on some of the texts in it saying I believe men and post websites which are written by authors with doubtful allegence to Christ.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#431076 Apr 3, 2013
who="Tiger Lily"
I didn't punctuate the Bible.
I didn't put the comma in the wrong place.
It is ridiculous to think Jesus was in Heaven on Good Friday when we are told He was in the grave 3 days and 3 nights.
Anyway, have it whatever way you want it but it is inconsistent with truth and common logic.

Tiger Lily wrote:

Oxbow, is there any record in scripture that Jesus went anywhere other than the locality of Jerusalem?
There may be but perhaps I have forgotten.
Why would that consign me to Hell?
NASL believes the Bible was altered to suit the beliefs of those who compiled it. How say you?

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The Bible doesn't say that Jesus died on a Friday. It DOES say that He arose on the FIRST DAY (Sunday). Since HE said He would be in the grave three days and three nights, we can safely conclude that that was true.

Peter says:

1Pe 3:18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:
1Pe 3:19 By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison;
1Pe 3:20 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.

While Jesus' body was in the grave He preached to the spirits in prison (paradise) who had been disobedient in Noah's time.(Today you will be with Me in paradise.) Jesus gives everyone opportunity to come to Him.
KM

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#431077 Apr 3, 2013
Tiger Lily wrote:
<quoted text>
I didn't punctuate the Bible.
I didn't put the comma in the wrong place.
It is ridiculous to think Jesus was in Heaven on Good Friday when we are told He was in the grave 3 days and 3 nights.
Anyway, have it whatever way you want it but it is inconsistent with truth

YOU WROTE
It is ridiculous to think Jesus was in Heaven on Good Friday when we are told He was in the grave 3 days and 3 nights.and common logic.
JESUS COULD HAVE BEEN ANY WHERE HE WANTED TO BE

AT ANY TIME HE WANT TO BE

AFTER THE STONE WAS ROLLED UPON THE ENTRANCE OF THE TOMB...

THE BIBLE SAYS ...

1Pe 3:18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:

1Pe 3:19 By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison;

1Pe 3:20 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.

CAN YOU TELL US WHEN THE ABOVE TRANSPIRED?

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Eph 4:8 Wherefore he saith, When he ascended up on high, he led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men.

Eph 4:9 (Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also descended first into the lower parts of the earth?

Eph 4:10 He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things.)

Eph 4:11 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;

Eph 4:12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:

CAN YOU TELL US WHEN THE ABOVE TRANSPIRED...

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ATTEMPTING TO ESTABLISH A SCHEDULED FOR WHAT JESUS DID IN THE INTERIM,

WHILE BEING IN THE TOMB CAN BE ANYBODY'S GUESS...AFTER ALL HE IS GOD

IN THE FLESH...AND NOT LIMITED TO TIME NOR SPACE...

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#431078 Apr 3, 2013
who="Tiger Lily"
I am fully aware of what a Christian is or should be.
I do know my Saviour Jesus. I have nevertheless times when doubts arise when I read some of the responses here.
Am I supposed to have faith in the Bible?
I absolutely do. But some here cast aspersions on some of the texts in it saying I believe men and post websites which are written by authors with doubtful allegence to Christ.

**********

Don't be troubled by those who question the Word of God. "We know in part." God knows everything, and His Word has stood the test of the ages. We know "IN PART"; none of us knows it all...so we need to take His Word for everything.

Keep reading it...He will teach you as you trust Him.
KM
7th Day Catholics Rock

Poplar Bluff, MO

#431079 Apr 3, 2013
Tiger Lily wrote:
<quoted text>
I am fully aware of what a Christian is or should be.
I do know my Saviour Jesus. I have nevertheless times when doubts arise when I read some of the responses here.
Am I supposed to have faith in the Bible?
I absolutely do. But some here cast aspersions on some of the texts in it saying I believe men and post websites which are written by authors with doubtful allegence to Christ.
Amen and as it is written after searching the scriptures daily it just reafirms my Faith God and his Holy Word.
Revelation warns us about the Harlot and her Daughters, Mystrey Babylon and Wolves in Sheep Clothing.

Ephesians 6:10-18

King James Version (KJV)


10 Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might.

11 Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.

12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

13 Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.

14 Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness;

15 And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace;

16 Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked.

17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:

18 Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints;
Tiger Lily

New Zealand

#431080 Apr 3, 2013
Because Christ also suffered for sins once, the righteous for the unrighteous, that he might bring us to God; being put to death in the flesh, but made alive in the spirit; in which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison, that aforetime were disobedient, when the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls, were saved through water (1 Peter 3:18-20).

This difficult passage begins by affirming that Christ died in order to provide the benefits of salvation to unrighteous people. The apostle states that the Lord was put to death in the flesh (his crucifixion), but that he was made alive in the spirit.

What is the meaning of this latter expression? It could mean that his spirit continued to be vitalized with life—even after the death of his body; or else it may indicate that Jesus was made alive again when his spirit re-entered his body at the time of his resurrection from the dead (cf. Romans 1:4; 1 Timothy 3:16).

The apostle then says,“in which”(i.e., in his spirit), Christ went and preached unto the “spirits in prison” that were disobedient in the days of Noah.

Some people believe this passage teaches that during the three days his body was in the tomb, Jesus went into the spirit-world of the imprisoned lost. At that time, according to this theory, the Lord preached the gospel to those who died lost during the time of Noah’s flood.

The passage simply cannot mean this—and for the following reasons:

The Bible clearly teaches that following death, there comes judgment (Hebrews 9:27). After one leaves this earth, there is no plan of salvation for him. The spiritual condition in which a person dies (prepared or unprepared) is that which he will possess at the time of the general resurrection (cf. Matthew 25:1-12). There is absolutely no evidence that there is a second chance for redemption following death.

According to Christ’s instruction in the narrative regarding the rich man and Lazarus, within the spirit-world (called Hades in the American Standard Version) there is a great gulf “fixed” between the place where evil people abide and the state where good people exist (see Luke 16:26).

The verb “fixed,” in the Greek Testament, is a perfect tense form, suggesting that the gulf is forever fixed. There can never be any crossing. A. T. Robertson called it a “permanent chasm”(1931, 223). A. B. Bruce said the “location is fixed and final”(1956, 589). It thus would hardly have accomplished anything for the Lord to have preached to those in a state of punishment, tantalizing them with the hope of salvation, when they had no chance of entering Paradise.

What, then, does 1 Peter 3:18 teach?

The passage affirms that Jesus Christ,“in the [his] spirit”(not in the flesh), during the days of Noah, proclaimed God’s truth to the evil, pre-flood generation. How did the Lord do that? He was operating through Noah, a preacher of righteousness (2 Peter 2:5).

Observe that in this same letter Peter stated that the “Spirit of Christ” was in the Old Testament prophets as they declared Heaven’s message (1:11). This is a key verse in explaining 1 Peter 3:18. When Christ, through Noah, preached to those evil people, they were alive and on the earth. But at the time Peter wrote his letter, they had long been dead, and their spirits were suffering in the prison of hell (known as Tartarus – see 2 Peter 2:4, ASV fn).

In order to help clarify the meaning of this difficult verse, we might suggest the following paraphrase:


Christ was made alive in the spirit; in which, during the days of Noah, he preached to evil people, whose spirits are now in the prison of Tartarus (punishment).
Tiger Lily

New Zealand

#431081 Apr 3, 2013
Continued...
This type of language reflects a common figure of speech found in the Bible. It is known as prolepsis. It involves bringing two time-frames together into one expression. Here is a more current example. If one were to say,“President Abraham Lincoln was born in Kentucky,” he would be combining two time eras into one sentence. When he was born, Lincoln was not president, but he later became such. However, by this common mode of expression, one associates a current fact with an antecedent event.

So it is with reference to 1 Peter 3:18. The preaching was done by Christ through Noah in ancient times; the spirits are currently in a place of confinement.

This is a very reasonable interpretation of this verse, and it conforms to what we know of the state of the dead as elsewhere described in the Bible. No meaning can be imposed upon a difficult text which makes it conflict with other clear passages.
7th Day Catholics Rock

Poplar Bluff, MO

#431082 Apr 3, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
JESUS COULD HAVE BEEN ANY WHERE HE WANTED TO BE
AT ANY TIME HE WANT TO BE
AFTER THE STONE WAS ROLLED UPON THE ENTRANCE OF THE TOMB...
THE BIBLE SAYS ...
1Pe 3:18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:
1Pe 3:19 By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison;
1Pe 3:20 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.
CAN YOU TELL US WHEN THE ABOVE TRANSPIRED?
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Eph 4:8 Wherefore he saith, When he ascended up on high, he led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men.
Eph 4:9 (Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also descended first into the lower parts of the earth?
Eph 4:10 He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things.)
Eph 4:11 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;
Eph 4:12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:
CAN YOU TELL US WHEN THE ABOVE TRANSPIRED...
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ATTEMPTING TO ESTABLISH A SCHEDULED FOR WHAT JESUS DID IN THE INTERIM,
WHILE BEING IN THE TOMB CAN BE ANYBODY'S GUESS...AFTER ALL HE IS GOD
IN THE FLESH...AND NOT LIMITED TO TIME NOR SPACE...
but quickened by the Spirit:
1Pe 3:19 By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison;

It is simply saying by the same spirit he was ressurected by is the same spirit in which in the days of Noah He/Christ also preached to those in bondage/prison and was lost.
7th Day Catholics Rock

Poplar Bluff, MO

#431083 Apr 3, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
JESUS COULD HAVE BEEN ANY WHERE HE WANTED TO BE
AT ANY TIME HE WANT TO BE
AFTER THE STONE WAS ROLLED UPON THE ENTRANCE OF THE TOMB...
THE BIBLE SAYS ...
1Pe 3:18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:
1Pe 3:19 By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison;
1Pe 3:20 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.
CAN YOU TELL US WHEN THE ABOVE TRANSPIRED?
~~~~~~
Eph 4:8 Wherefore he saith, When he ascended up on high, he led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men.
Eph 4:9 (Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also descended first into the lower parts of the earth?
Eph 4:10 He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things.)
Eph 4:11 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;
Eph 4:12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:
CAN YOU TELL US WHEN THE ABOVE TRANSPIRED...
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ATTEMPTING TO ESTABLISH A SCHEDULED FOR WHAT JESUS DID IN THE INTERIM,
WHILE BEING IN THE TOMB CAN BE ANYBODY'S GUESS...AFTER ALL HE IS GOD
IN THE FLESH...AND NOT LIMITED TO TIME NOR SPACE...
The answer to the second part of your question can be found in the following:

John 16:7.

Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.

John 14:16 And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another advocate to help you and be with you forever--
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John 14:26 But the Advocate, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you all things and will remind you of everything I have said to you.
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John 16:8 When he comes, he will prove the world to be in the wrong about sin and righteousness and judgment:

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#431084 Apr 3, 2013
who="Tiger Lily"
I detect a degree of narcisism here NASL. I backed up (as you asked me to) all I posted with scripture or common sense.
I never passed any buck.
Honestly, I gave you scripture which you can easily test yourself.
What unfounded claims have I made?
I will answer them again if you wish me to.

**********

T.L. Don't be frustrated by this person. He/she will not discuss a subject, but scold you, and repeatedly ask why YOU don't believe in Jesus. Very mind-bending.
KM

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#431085 Apr 3, 2013
who="7th Day Catholics Rock"
but quickened by the Spirit:
1Pe 3:19 By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison;
It is simply saying by the same spirit he was ressurected by is the same spirit in which in the days of Noah He/Christ also preached to those in bondage/prison and was lost.

**********

Eph 4:9 Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also descended first into the lower parts of the earth?

Plainly Peter was right when he said that Jesus DESCENDED INTO THE LOWER PARTS OF THE EARTH. NOAH preached to the men of his day; JESUS preached to their spirits in the 'lower parts of the earth'.
7th Day Catholics Rock

Poplar Bluff, MO

#431086 Apr 3, 2013
7th Day Catholics Rock wrote:
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but quickened by the Spirit:
1Pe 3:19 By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison;
It is simply saying by the same spirit he was ressurected by is the same spirit in which in the days of Noah He/Christ also preached to those in bondage/prison and was lost.
P.S.

John 11:25

King James Version (KJV)


25 Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:

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