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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

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The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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#431249 Apr 4, 2013
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hojo

Saint Paul, MN

#431250 Apr 4, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
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You wrote
Your bible only (rif-raf) of (inconsistencies, confusion, and chaotic "personal interpretation of Sacred Scripture just keeps getting more and more disordered.
You call us (rif-raf).
Yet you don't/wont... take the Bible and show us what you claim to be truth..
Obviously you have no truth to give or show us..
The ONLY reason that you "fundies" want to discuss, debate or deliberate ANYTHING that has to do with TRUE BIBLE INTERPRETATION
or TRUE APOSTOLIC CHURCH HISTORY is because you have "absolutely" no sources of biblical or historical truth to back up ANYTHING you say.(only 450+ years of more and more Protestant) bible only confusion and chaos) since the Protestant Reformation). You "fundies" in "desperation", attempt to come up with something----ANYTHING----- "concoted, and made-up", to go along with your editorialized (self interpreted) bible interpretation (or better yet mis-interpretation), by "making-it-up" as you go, legendary Church History.......... The TRUTH, has, is and will always be recorded, authenticated, verified and PROVEN TO BE TRUE by Apologist Historian authors and writers,(both Catholic and Protestant) that Jesus Christ (over 2000 years ago) formed and initiated ONE (and only one) TRUE (UNIVERSAL-CATHOLIC) Church in Matthew 16:13-21 and appointed St Peter (along with 2000 years of Apostolic Succession, to lead HIS CHURCH, until HE (Our Lord) returns the second time.
hojo

Saint Paul, MN

#431251 Apr 4, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
You wrote
Your bible only (rif-raf) of (inconsistencies, confusion, and chaotic "personal interpretation of Sacred Scripture just keeps getting more and more disordered.
You call us (rif-raf).
Yet you don't/wont... take the Bible and show us what you claim to be truth..
I'll tell you Confrinting (exactly) what I told jethro8, or ANY OTHER bible only "fundie" that desires and wants to know the TRUTH!
Go read the Catholic Catechism, and the Encyclicals which confirm and authenticate the TRUE TEACHINGS OF THE BIBLE----THE TRUE HISTORICAL CHURCH HISTORY WRITINGS ----and THE TRUE TEACHINGS OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH, as they parallel, confirm, validate, and substantiate EVERYTHING that Jesus taught, proclaimed and handed down to HIS Apostles over 2000 years ago. READ IT ALL! DIGEST IT!
INHALE IT! lET IT "SOAK INTO" YOUR ANTI-CATHOLIC mind, heart and soul --Confrinting. Then you can go "argue, discuss and debate with yourself in front of a "mirror" or better yet with the other 42,000 contradicting, inconsistent and conflicting bible only Protestants --"none of which" agree with YOU EITHER!! Debate, discuss, deliberating--is a "total waste of time". I/we as CAtholics, know "without a doubt" that the FULLNESS OF THE FAITH AND THE TRUTH has, is and will (always be) In Jesus Christ, in and through His One (and only TRUE Apostolic CAtholic Church!!
Pad

Fishers, IN

#431252 Apr 4, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
who="MICHAEL"
For those that believe the Jesus story, how can anyone verify that he rose from the dead on Sunday, and not Saturday night? If his family came by sunday morning and saw the stone rolled away, and the tomb empty maybe he left 10:00 oclock Saturday night.
The catholic church would NEVER use saturday. That was the Jewish Sabbath, and christians would do anything not to have Jesus affiliated with his long life Jewish faith.
Christianity created the story and stole Jesus from the Jewish life he lived and died.
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Each of the writers of the gospel tell us that the women went to the tomb very early in the morning on the FIRST DAY of the week. The angels who rolled the stone away were still there. Jesus Himself showed Himself to Mary, so He had not left the area. The stone wasn't rolled away so that Jesus could get out...He entered rooms with the doors locked...the stone was rolled away so that men could see that the tomb was empty.
God made the earth in six days, then rested on the seventh day. History...according to the Bible...is approximately six days old (a thousand years being one day in God's sight). The millinium (thousand years of Christ's reign on earth) will be another 'day of rest' with peace reigning on the earth.
The Sabbath was a day of rest...NO work was to be done. Jesus got up on the first day BECAUSE HE HAD WORK TO DO. He 'rested' on the Sabbath.
The first day of the week is not a Jewish Sabbath for us...it is a worship day...a day to do His work. Did you ever notice that our Christian nation recognized both Saturday and Sunday...respecting both the Jewish Sabbath and the Christian day of worship?(Not now...but everyone used to get the whole week-end for rest and worship.)
KM
Wonderful answer here KayMarie.It is the best description to the reason why we worship on Sunday,rather than the Fri(eve)-Sat Sabbath.The whole worship of Jesus or Yeshua is in regards to His Holy Resurrection,which was Sunday Morning.Every 7th Day Adventist should read this posting of yours.Right to the point!

The Jewish Sabbath is shrouded with the legalism of DOING NOTHING.The Resurrection of Christ has all to do with the glorious beginning of a NEW and Everlasting Covenant that takes us from a REST or sleep from all our labors in a body that is tied to this present world.The NEW Body which is glorifed is full of the energy of heaven and kingdom living.

NOT that the Sabbath should be ignored,our Messianic brothers and sisters in Christ have chosen to remain in the Sabbath to continue their Jewishness,yet bringing to their traditional brethren an opportunity to discover the Living Moshiach Yeshua.

But the truth is we are awaiting the fulfilled ONE Man who is both gentile and Jew combined to serve the living God in Christ.Not saying that the Man has a gentile parent and a Jewish Parent,but that the culmination of the gentile in Christ,and the Jew in Christ become O N E entity fulfilling the accomplishment of what Christ has done in His glorified body,to present to the Father the New Creation in Christ Jesus,from sin and death to life.

The Apostle Paul eludes to that in his epistles:Romans through to Hebrews.

Since: Jun 10

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#431253 Apr 4, 2013
Jesus was not..is not God the Father

Even as true worshipers of God recognize that the will or desire of God is superior to their own will or desire, Jesus acknowledged God's will was superior to his own. In acknowledging this, Jesus indicates that he was inferior to God. Thus, at the time just before his death, the Bible says, at Luke 22:41 & 42:

"And he was withdrawn from them about a stone's cast, and kneeled down, and prayed, saying, Father, if thou be willing, remove this cup from me: nevertheless, not my will, but thine, be done."

At the time of Jesus' resurrection from the dead, Jesus spoke to Mary Magdalene, as described in the Book of John, at chapter 20 and verse 17, which reads:

"Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God."

Inasmuch as Mary was not ascending, but Jesus was, this passage is telling us that Jesus was going to ascend to heaven, where his father already was - the one he describes here as his God.
Pad

Fishers, IN

#431254 Apr 4, 2013
Religion - A Delusion wrote:
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Yep, why not? "Myself, myself, why have I forsaken me?"
The never-ending absurdity is part of the delusion.
Ever wonder about Jesus' famous lamentation in Matthew 27:46:
About the ninth hour Jesus cried out in a loud voice, "Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani?"—which means, "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?"
Since Jesus is God, what he really must have meant is: "Myself, myself, why have I forsaken me?" Which of course makes absolutely no sense.
That is because as you put it (it) does not make any sense.

You have every right to believe what you want,but let me just interject some real truth of the matter to you,and perhaps you might want to think it through.
Nevertheless,the only way you can fully understand what I tell you is if you go to God in humility and sekk His understanding on the matter.

First of all God is ONE.But the truth of that is He is ONE, with 3 separate Living Beings that share in total: Essence,Substance,Intelligence ,Purpose and Reality.G o d cannot be defined as we humans would view, one person standing at a door, for instance.But 3 Persons standing at a door who are O N E G o d.The Father,Son and Holy Spirit.

God can only be defined from the Scriptures as the GODHEAD,which is the Father,Son and Holy Spirit.Jesus is the fulfillment of the GODHEAD in that He totally represents G o d as the Son INCARNATE.

In other words God is not just the Father,or the Son or the Holy Spirit,but all 3 Divine Persons as ONE,Everlasting God,WHO is the Creator,of all that is seen and unseen.

The mathematical equation for GOD is quite simple ((1x1x1=ONE)).Naturally if you add 1+1+1=3. The uniqueness of God being ONE in 3 Persons includes all that is Willed and purposed as the three will not operate without each other in total harmony,yet the Father (the LORD,YHWH) is sovereign,both the Son and the Holy Spirit are submissive to Him. The Son is of the Essence of the Father,and naturally the Holy Spirit is assumed in both the Father and the Son,in that HE takes on the character,quality,and essence of them both,yet He according to Scripture is our Comforter,teacher,and Guide.

There is much to understand about the GODHEAD or Trinity,and your limited understanding of Jesus in regards to what He said on the Cross,needs on your part to discover the truth about the GODHEAD.

Also the very fact that Jesus IS both the Son of M a n, and the Son of God brings in a n o t h e r aspect to how He on the Cross in the flesh, reacted to His Father who perceived Jesus as S I N.

It is the whole mystery of our faith that Jesus was crucified,was buried and ROSE again. That entails both His humanity and Divinity,your post completely limits that in your understanding.

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#431255 Apr 4, 2013
Pad wrote:
<quoted text>Wonderful answer here KayMarie.It is the best description to the reason why we worship on Sunday,rather than the Fri(eve)-Sat Sabbath.The whole worship of Jesus or Yeshua is in regards to His Holy Resurrection,which was Sunday Morning.Every 7th Day Adventist should read this posting of yours.Right to the point!
The Jewish Sabbath is shrouded with the legalism of DOING NOTHING.The Resurrection of Christ has all to do with the glorious beginning of a NEW and Everlasting Covenant that takes us from a REST or sleep from all our labors in a body that is tied to this present world.The NEW Body which is glorifed is full of the energy of heaven and kingdom living.
NOT that the Sabbath should be ignored,our Messianic brothers and sisters in Christ have chosen to remain in the Sabbath to continue their Jewishness,yet bringing to their traditional brethren an opportunity to discover the Living Moshiach Yeshua.
But the truth is we are awaiting the fulfilled ONE Man who is both gentile and Jew combined to serve the living God in Christ.Not saying that the Man has a gentile parent and a Jewish Parent,but that the culmination of the gentile in Christ,and the Jew in Christ become O N E entity fulfilling the accomplishment of what Christ has done in His glorified body,to present to the Father the New Creation in Christ Jesus,from sin and death to life.
The Apostle Paul eludes to that in his epistles:Romans through to Hebrews.
The Bible does not teach the earth to be 6000 years old....

Ge 1:1 ¶ In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

When (what date) was the beginning??

“YESHUA IS LORD”

Since: Apr 07

GAWGIA (GEORGIA)

#431256 Apr 4, 2013
Preston wrote:
<quoted text>lol, you cant even spell it right. it is the Jewish Masoretic Text which the KJV is the most comparable to it.mine dates back to the year 1956.
tony, I just woke up and the Lord dealt with me about you. for He said that you are no teacher of His Word.for reasons that I am not going to discuss.
Lol. The Lord didn't tell you anything. I love the way people lie on God. God get more lies told on Him than anyone else in the universe and so called Christians are the guilty ones that lie on God everyday.

Everytime you turn around some Christian tell a lie on God talking about God told them this or God told them that. They like to try one upmanship on people and try to make people think that they are closer to God than even the Arch-angels are.

“YESHUA IS LORD”

Since: Apr 07

GAWGIA (GEORGIA)

#431257 Apr 4, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
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Passover
1.(Non-Christian Religions / Judaism) Also called Pesach Pesah Feast of the Unleavened Bread an eight-day Jewish festival beginning on Nisan 15 and celebrated in commemoration of the passing over or sparing of the Israelites in Egypt, when God smote the firstborn of the Egyptians (Exodus 12) Related adj Paschal
Christians do not follow non-Christian practices...Am not surprised that you do....
Fool, I guess you are not surprised that Christ observed the Passover either are you? Or were you even aware that Christ observed the Passover as well? Now see if you were any kind of Bible student you would know that Christ too obswerved the Passover and EVERYONE that Calls themselves a Christian is supposed to observe the Passover as well as Christ became our Passover and He commanded us to do so.

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#431258 Apr 4, 2013
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Pad wrote:
<quoted text>That is because as you put it (it) does not make any sense.
You have every right to believe what you want,but let me just interject some real truth of the matter to you,and perhaps you might want to think it through.
Nevertheless,the only way you can fully understand what I tell you is if you go to God in humility and sekk His understanding on the matter.
First of all God is ONE.But the truth of that is He is ONE, with 3 separate Living Beings that share in total: Essence,Substance,Intelligence ,Purpose and Reality.G o d cannot be defined as we humans would view, one person standing at a door, for instance.But 3 Persons standing at a door who are O N E G o d.The Father,Son and Holy Spirit.
God can only be defined from the Scriptures as the GODHEAD,which is the Father,Son and Holy Spirit.Jesus is the fulfillment of the GODHEAD in that He totally represents G o d as the Son INCARNATE.
In other words God is not just the Father,or the Son or the Holy Spirit,but all 3 Divine Persons as ONE,Everlasting God,WHO is the Creator,of all that is seen and unseen.
The mathematical equation for GOD is quite simple ((1x1x1=ONE)).Naturally if you add 1+1+1=3. The uniqueness of God being ONE in 3 Persons includes all that is Willed and purposed as the three will not operate without each other in total harmony,yet the Father (the LORD,YHWH) is sovereign,both the Son and the Holy Spirit are submissive to Him. The Son is of the Essence of the Father,and naturally the Holy Spirit is assumed in both the Father and the Son,in that HE takes on the character,quality,and essence of them both,yet He according to Scripture is our Comforter,teacher,and Guide.
There is much to understand about the GODHEAD or Trinity,and your limited understanding of Jesus in regards to what He said on the Cross,needs on your part to discover the truth about the GODHEAD.
Also the very fact that Jesus IS both the Son of M a n, and the Son of God brings in a n o t h e r aspect to how He on the Cross in the flesh, reacted to His Father who perceived Jesus as S I N.
It is the whole mystery of our faith that Jesus was crucified,was buried and ROSE again. That entails both His humanity and Divinity,your post completely limits that in your understanding.
Jesus was not..is not God the Father

Even as true worshipers of God recognize that the will or desire of God is superior to their own will or desire, Jesus acknowledged God's will was superior to his own. In acknowledging this, Jesus indicates that he was inferior to God. Thus, at the time just before his death, the Bible says, at Luke 22:41 & 42:

"And he was withdrawn from them about a stone's cast, and kneeled down, and prayed, saying, Father, if thou be willing, remove this cup from me: nevertheless, not my will, but thine, be done."

At the time of Jesus' resurrection from the dead, Jesus spoke to Mary Magdalene, as described in the Book of John, at chapter 20 and verse 17, which reads:

"Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God."

Inasmuch as Mary was not ascending, but Jesus was, this passage is telling us that Jesus was going to ascend to heaven, where his father already was - the one he describes here as his God.

“YESHUA IS LORD”

Since: Apr 07

GAWGIA (GEORGIA)

#431259 Apr 4, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
580 575
<quoted text>
Passover
1.(Non-Christian Religions / Judaism) Also called Pesach Pesah Feast of the Unleavened Bread an eight-day Jewish festival beginning on Nisan 15 and celebrated in commemoration of the passing over or sparing of the Israelites in Egypt, when God smote the firstborn of the Egyptians (Exodus 12) Related adj Paschal
Christians do not follow non-Christian practices...Am not surprised that you do....
And one more thing I must teaCH YOU and that is...Israel was to get a new name and that name was suppposed to be..........CHRISTIAN. And when I say Israel I mean TRUE ISRAEL. Not those that say they are Jews and are not...Rev 2:9 and 3:9.

“YESHUA IS LORD”

Since: Apr 07

GAWGIA (GEORGIA)

#431260 Apr 4, 2013
Every so called Christian here on this forum needs to read the following link/lesson from Exodus 12 for it shows us how to set the date for observing the Passover ( which Christ became our Passover Lamb AND COMMANDED US TO OBSERVE THE DAY IN REMEMBRANCE OF HIM).

http://www.theseason.org/exodus/exodus12.htm

It is a valuable lesson and will show you what a heathen thing is it for Christians to observe the heathen practice of Easter instead of the Passover. Passover according to the date that God set was April 3rd and none of these so called Christians was aware of the day.

Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#431261 Apr 4, 2013
jethro8 wrote:
THIS FITS HOJO TO A TEE:When Roman Catholics are challenged from the Bible to defend their faith, they are unwilling or unable to defend what they believe and say the priest has the answer and never search the truth out for themselves. Priests and Bishops never get permission to have open public Bible discussions with honest Bible students like ourselves. Imagine a local parish priest publicly defending infant baptism against a Christian who taught the practice contradicted the Bible! It never happens! Forget what the Bible says, just trust the priest!....1 peter 3:15 3:15 But sanctify the Lord God in you hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear:
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Jethro I believe strongly that Priests or Preachers should welcome open questioning, dialogue, and debate.The Truth is strong and needs to hide from no one.

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#431262 Apr 4, 2013
257 580 575
Tony17 wrote:
<quoted text>Fool, I guess you are not surprised that Christ observed the Passover either are you? Or were you even aware that Christ observed the Passover as well? Now see if you were any kind of Bible student you would know that Christ too obswerved the Passover and EVERYONE that Calls themselves a Christian is supposed to observe the Passover as well as Christ became our Passover and He commanded us to do so.
You have just demonstrated that there is nothing worse than being an idiot than being one and not know it!!!!

The Passover is:(A Non-Christian Religions / Judaism) Also called Pesach Pesah Feast of the Unleavened Bread an eight-day Jewish festival beginning on Nisan 15 and celebrated in commemoration of the passing over or sparing of the Israelites in Egypt, when God smote the firstborn of the Egyptians (Exodus 12) Related adj Paschal

Christians do not follow non-Christian practices...Am not surprised that you do...

“YESHUA IS LORD”

Since: Apr 07

GAWGIA (GEORGIA)

#431263 Apr 4, 2013
Oxbow and others that lie on God and claim that God spoke to them or God revealed something to them. Stop lying on God people and stop prophesying FALSELY.

http://www.theseason.org/ezekiel/ezekiel13.ht...

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#431264 Apr 4, 2013
259 580 575
Tony17 wrote:
<quoted text>And one more thing I must teaCH YOU and that is...Israel was to get a new name and that name was suppposed to be..........CHRISTIAN. And when I say Israel I mean TRUE ISRAEL. Not those that say they are Jews and are not...Rev 2:9 and 3:9.
Thank you for verifying that you are, without a doubt, a true Bible illiterate!!!

“YESHUA IS LORD”

Since: Apr 07

GAWGIA (GEORGIA)

#431265 Apr 4, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
259 580 575
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Thank you for verifying that you are, without a doubt, a true Bible illiterate!!!
I apologize for calling you a fool for you're not a fool but you are definitely Biblically Illiterate about many things and the fact that you didn't seem to be aware that Christ observed the Passover and you called me un-Christian for observing the Passover speaks volumes about you.

I presume that you are a wolf in sheeps clothing my friend.

“YESHUA IS LORD”

Since: Apr 07

GAWGIA (GEORGIA)

#431266 Apr 4, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
257 580 575
<quoted text>
You have just demonstrated that there is nothing worse than being an idiot than being one and not know it!!!!
The Passover is:(A Non-Christian Religions / Judaism) Also called Pesach Pesah Feast of the Unleavened Bread an eight-day Jewish festival beginning on Nisan 15 and celebrated in commemoration of the passing over or sparing of the Israelites in Egypt, when God smote the firstborn of the Egyptians (Exodus 12) Related adj Paschal
Christians do not follow non-Christian practices...Am not surprised that you do...
Christ observed the Passover which He Himself became. Do you not know the scripture where the Disciples asked Christ where did He want them to prepare for the Passover and Christ gave them instructions on what to do for the preparation?

I don't know what so preacher has been teaching you that it is Un-Christian to observe the Passover but God is gonna deposit his soul in hell for teaching you that false doctrine.

“YESHUA IS LORD”

Since: Apr 07

GAWGIA (GEORGIA)

#431267 Apr 4, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
257 580 575
<quoted text>

Christians do not follow non-Christian practices...Am not surprised that you do...
Are you also surprised that Christ observed the Passover? I can show you many scriptures proving this if need be.

“YESHUA IS LORD”

Since: Apr 07

GAWGIA (GEORGIA)

#431268 Apr 4, 2013
As a gay man I would like to tell the forum something. America seems to be on the road to ruination for they seem to be heading towards approving gay marriage. People, you need to start struggling against this for if America does approve of gay marriage I assure you that this is gonna invite Gods judgement against this country.

No to Gay marriage.

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