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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 695641 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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socci

Cameron, MO

#430870 Apr 2, 2013
Clay wrote:
The label 'Gods word' is taken out of context by you guys. You seem to think every little word was whispered into Pauls ear by God, therefore its Gods actual word.
The Bible is human thought with Divine insights, forever entwined to help the reader understand God. I'm guessing it would have been unimaginable for Matthew, that future Christians would take his writings so literal that they would argue where he put his comma or claim he meant 'little pebble' when referring to Peter.
Dude, they already taught the faith once. Its done. It flowed from their mouths. Things like what the Eucharist is, were clearly and irrefutably explained.
There is no doubt they passed on their authority to successors too. These successors created a NT Bible 400 yrs later and added it to the Hebrew books they considered sacred scripture. The Church is still standing today.

Just as Moses was given direct inspiration on the mountain Paul and the other apostles were given direct inspiration by Jesus who breathed on them.

John 20:22 "And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and said to them, Receive you the Holy Ghost:"

The apostles who wrote the NT books were inspired to do so. Every word.

The early Christians quoted these books in the 38,000 letters we have to know which books they considered inspired scriptures long before Rome ever accepted the canon.

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7th Day Catholics Rock

Poplar Bluff, MO

#430871 Apr 2, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
<quoted text>
But the earliest known 4th century Bible is different than your 17th century edition.
21 Him that knew no sin made he sin for us, that we might become the righteousness of God in him.
IMO - if you will notice - subtle differences in the meanings. In fact, it appears the KJV has additional words added to change the meaning to become an implication upon Jesus, when in fact it isn't, if you are to look upon the earlier 4th century version.
Only if they had left out the term MIGHT in which they did not would the meaning be changed.

7th Day Catholics Rock wrote:

7th <quoted text>Seeing the neg icons I was just wondering does someones Catholic Bible read diffrent than the KJV on
2 Corinthians 5:21
21 For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.
7th Day Catholics Rock

Poplar Bluff, MO

#430872 Apr 2, 2013
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Without a single word, this says it all

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“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#430873 Apr 2, 2013
waaasssuuup wrote:
<quoted text>
why do you prefer the mystic's non-authorized/non-canonized hearsay to the actual disciples' Gospel/biography accounts?
that's a rhetorical question as i already know why;)
because "God" hasn't told me I shouldn't -- so I do. I don't take direction from you or other men, I'll take it from Jesus.

What's your excuse on not believing what Jesus has to teach in those texts?
socci

Cameron, MO

#430874 Apr 2, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
But the earliest known 4th century Bible is different than your 17th century edition.
21 Him that knew no sin made he sin for us, that we might become the righteousness of God in him.
IMO - if you will notice - subtle differences in the meanings. In fact, it appears the KJV has additional words added to change the meaning to become an implication upon Jesus, when in fact it isn't, if you are to look upon the earlier 4th century version.

Oldest does not mean the most accurate or reliable. As copies are made of the most reliable the original wears out and is discarded no longer needed with thousands of copies all in agreement from different regions. The older corrupted text set aside unused and later discovered is not more reliable than the more recent copies of the preserved text. The KJV Greek comes from the NT of the Greek Orthodox who preserved it in their language. Corrupting it in their own language would be as difficult as corrupting the English KJV today. We could change a few but this would not matter as there are millions of copies to show the errors. The majority Greek mss are with the KJV's Textus Receptus.

The Latin Vulgate on the otherhand was kept locked away in the hands of a few. It is the corrupt text.

The two streams of mss did not even begin with the same OT or NT. The Vulgate uses mss from Alexandria Egypt where the Gnostics and pagans were while the KJV uses mss from Antioch Syria where the Christians were.

KJV NT origins

http://conservapedia.com/Geneva_Bible#The_Fir...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byzantine_text-t...

(chart)
http://bibles4free.com/sitebuildercontent/sit...

KJV OT origins

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masoretic_Text

ms history

http://www.biblebelievers.com/JEcob1.html

KJV History

http://youtu.be/V8C-Dl7VpRQ

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#430875 Apr 2, 2013
7th Day Catholics Rock wrote:
<quoted text>I SEE NO Change in the meaning whatsoever.
That is because you you don't understand the passage.

You asked, I gave you what you ask for, and now just because you don't understand what I posted, you'll have to clarify what you are trying to convey.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#430876 Apr 2, 2013
socci wrote:
<quoted text>
Oldest does not mean the most accurate or reliable. As copies are made of the most reliable the original wears out and is discarded no longer needed with thousands of copies all in agreement from different regions. The older corrupted text set aside unused and later discovered is not more reliable than the more recent copies of the preserved text. The KJV Greek comes from the NT of the Greek Orthodox who preserved it in their language. Corrupting it in their own language would be as difficult as corrupting the English KJV today. We could change a few but this would not matter as there are millions of copies to show the errors. The majority Greek mss are with the KJV's Textus Receptus.
The Latin Vulgate on the otherhand was kept locked away in the hands of a few. It is the corrupt text.
The two streams of mss did not even begin with the same OT or NT. The Vulgate uses mss from Alexandria Egypt where the Gnostics and pagans were while the KJV uses mss from Antioch Syria where the Christians were.
KJV NT origins
http://conservapedia.com/Geneva_Bible#The_Fir...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byzantine_text-t...
(chart)
http://bibles4free.com/sitebuildercontent/sit...
KJV OT origins
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masoretic_Text
ms history
http://www.biblebelievers.com/JEcob1.html
KJV History
http://youtu.be/V8C-Dl7VpRQ
And in the same tone, newer doesn't mean more reliable.

The KJV - written with undervalued sources, and almost 1600 years after the supposed incidences, goes to show of its falseness already.

You promoting it, without knowledge of its creation, by whom, when where, and why are jsut spouting off the comfy, coziness you find owning it.

Your claim of fullness is actually incomplete.

Since: Nov 08

usa

#430877 Apr 2, 2013
MICHAEL wrote:
<quoted text>
Hojo is getting ready to push the "paste" button again with his 42,000, half truths, heresies, protestant, catholic haters.......(lol)
Hojo belongs to a diocese in Minnesota that has had more than their fair share of pedophile clergy over the years, yet instead of demanding answers from the lying/deceiving, coverup bishops he praises his church leaders.
Top right hand column of this forum today another catholic priest goes to jail for sexual abuse of a child in Oregon that he had for sleepovers. What parent in their right mind would ever allow a child to sleep over with any man. UNBELIEVABLE!
The truth must be told!
your right that's what i'll get,the parrot message,since he can't prove one thing about his church and their so called apostolic succession.the bible is infallible so the passage i posted can not be denied,it's right there for anyone to read.the Vatican lied according TO THE BIBLE.The catholic church is not the true church by apostolic succession.wish i found that passage sooner...and it seems like a priest a day is going to jail for molesting,and your right,what parent would leave their child with a man they hardly know, just because he preaches doesn't make him a trust worthy man. Obviously they never read up on the true church history.They relied on their phony teachings an traditions.

Since: Nov 08

usa

#430878 Apr 2, 2013
Marylou wrote:
<quoted text>. The question is. What are YOU waiting for? Jesus opened the door for you but you are too self-righteous and blind to answer His call.
i see no open door,well my computer room door is open,but that's about it,self-righteous? me? i don't think so,and so far I've heard no one calling me,i've seen a lot of hot air being blown around here but that's about it,can't get hojo to answer a simple question,he defends the church like it's his,but he refuses to supply any truth. maybe you'd like to answer my question if you think you can?

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#430879 Apr 2, 2013
Marylou wrote:
The question is. What are YOU waiting for? Jesus opened the door for you but you are too self-righteous and blind to answer His call.

New Age asks:

Isn't a bit self-righteous to think Jesus already "opened the door", when you only accept a portion of his teachings?

You are starting to sound uninformed.

Since: Nov 08

usa

#430880 Apr 2, 2013
Marylou wrote:
<quoted text>. The question is. What are YOU waiting for? Jesus opened the door for you but you are too self-righteous and blind to answer His call.
here is the question HOJO refuses to responds to because it casts a BIG shadow of doubt about the catholic church be the true apostolic church,which to me is not surprising at all,knew it all the time...try to answer this.......Why do Roman Catholics always use 2 Timothy 2:2; 3:14 as Bible proof that extra-biblical oral tradition is to be followed through apostolic succession, when tradition says Timothy became the bishop of Ephesians, which through succession, is now part of the Greek Orthodox church headed out of Constantinople? If 2 Timothy 2:2 proves succession, doesn't this prove the Roman Catholic church is not part of that succession?...i will be waiting.

“let's do this thang!”

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#430881 Apr 2, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
<quoted text>
because "God" hasn't told me I shouldn't -- so I do. I don't take direction from you or other men, I'll take it from Jesus.
What's your excuse on not believing what Jesus has to teach in those texts?
"I don't take direction from you or other men, I'll take it from Jesus"

you're one confused hombre! if you don't take direction from men and you don't confess Jesus as God, why do you take direction from Jesus (even tho you really don't)?
hojo

Saint Paul, MN

#430882 Apr 2, 2013
socci wrote:
<quoted text>
No it's not an opinion the 1st commandment says have no other gods. It is not an opinion the 2nd commandment says do not bow to idols. Praying to saints is the opinion of the Roman Church condemned in God's ten commandments.
40,000 denominations due to rejecting God's word. Instead choosing man's traditions and opinions.
Bible right again!
It is your bible only Protestant "judgmental opinion" (claiming) that Catholics worship idols,(claiming) Catholics have other
Gods.(claiming) that Catholics pray to saints!! YES!!! This IS your "editorialized personal opinion". The fact is that "you have (no idea) as to what you are talking about!!! You've been reading too many Protestant "fiction" comic books! Your other (42,000 other contradicting "fundies" are just a confused, mixed up and "out of touch" with the TRUE TEACHINGS of Jesus Christs One True Catholic Church----AS YOU ARE!!!!
!

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#430883 Apr 2, 2013
855
Marylou wrote:
<quoted text>. You are clearly evil. Satan has his claws in your heart. I will pray for you. That is all I can do.
For you to deny the natural function of your digestive system speaks loads about your intelligence...
socci

Cameron, MO

#430884 Apr 2, 2013
hojo wrote:
It is your bible only Protestant "judgmental opinion" (claiming) that Catholics worship idols,(claiming) Catholics have other
Gods.(claiming) that Catholics pray to saints!! YES!!! This IS your "editorialized personal opinion". The fact is that "you have (no idea) as to what you are talking about!!! You've been reading too many Protestant "fiction" comic books! Your other (42,000 other contradicting "fundies" are just a confused, mixed up and "out of touch" with the TRUE TEACHINGS of Jesus Christs One True Catholic Church----AS YOU ARE!!!!
!

There is nothing in the Bible about praying to saints -- thus it is only your opinion. God's word does not support your opinions.

John 16:23 "...whatsoever you shall ask the Father in my name, he will give it to you."

Nothing about asking saints or the 'virgin mary'. The pope and Roman Church have OPINIONS & traditions of MAN. The inspired Bible does not have opinion.

Mt 15:9 "But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men."

Such is the history of the harlot in Rome.
socci

Cameron, MO

#430885 Apr 2, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
The KJV - written with undervalued sources, and almost 1600 years after the supposed incidences, goes to show of its falseness already.

The KJV Greek came from the preserved Greek Orthodox as the links show. Corrupting the Greek among the Greeks was impossible.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byzantine_text-t...

The Latin Vulgate is the corrupted line.
Clay

Union, NJ

#430886 Apr 2, 2013
waaasssuuup wrote:
<quoted text>
let's break this down so you'll know from where non-roman cultist's are coming from:
the RCC's "mary" is NOT the Mary from the bible; it's the ancient 'godess' ashtroth, which is actually associated to a demonic principality and that's why pagans are compelled to worship it.
the 'eucharist' is NOT the Body of Christ, but it's a roman/pagan ploy designed to keep the masses in bondage to roman dependency.
if you care to specify the "other beliefs" the RCC has that are in opposition to what the Bible teaches, i'll be happy to explain why those of us who are jealous for the Truth are "disrespectful" of those doctrines of demons as well.
don't thank me, just repent:-)
So it doesn't matter to you that the Eucharist was taught; explained and defined hundreds of yrs before Rome legalized Christianity? When the Apostles and their Disciples wrote about what Jesus Christ commanded in the Eucharist, Pagan Rome were killing Christians. In your brain, you think pagan Rome influenced the Eucharist??
socci

Cameron, MO

#430887 Apr 2, 2013

Not just the eucharist predates the RC but also nuns or vestal virgins were from Rome not the Bible. Also IHS came from the Greeks all the way back to Babylon, not the Bible.

IHS
IN HOC SIGNO VINCES
"in this sign you will conquer"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_hoc_signo_vin...
http://www.reformation.org/pope-constantine.h...

“let's do this thang!”

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#430888 Apr 2, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
So it doesn't matter to you that the Eucharist was taught; explained and defined hundreds of yrs before Rome legalized Christianity? When the Apostles and their Disciples wrote about what Jesus Christ commanded in the Eucharist, Pagan Rome were killing Christians. In your brain, you think pagan Rome influenced the Eucharist??
if the eucharist isn't strictly a roman/pagan institution, why is it that only a catholic priest can do the hocus pocus necessary for the 'transubstantiation'(also completely pagan/roman terminology)?

Jesus explains what He was talking about in latter verses when His disciples asked Him about eating His flesh and drinking His blood; "the flesh profits nothing; My WORDS are SPIRIT and they are life" Jesus

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#430889 Apr 2, 2013
waaasssuuup wrote:
<quoted text>
"I don't take direction from you or other men, I'll take it from Jesus"
you're one confused hombre! if you don't take direction from men and you don't confess Jesus as God,
Jesus isn't "God" - so please stop promoting this untruth.
waaasssuuup wrote:
<quoted text>
why do you take direction from Jesus (even tho you really don't)?
You are correct. Since Jesus never wrote anythign down, why do we even listen to the second hand sources?

BTW - I utilize teh teachings of Jesus, as scribed by other men. This is true, and more than I can say about the whole of Christianity, who prefer to disregard most of what Jesus taught, and ont he flipside use everyone and their brothers as sources.

You are confused.

Why do you prescribe to what men devised?

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