Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 20 comments on the Jul 10, 2007, CBC News story titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#429846 Mar 26, 2013
who="hojo"
NOWHERE--and I/we as Catholics "never claim" that every word must be in the bible in order for it to be true. It is "YOU FUNDIES" that claim (everything) MUST BE IN THE BIBLE---or it is NOT true!!
Show us Catholics, "where it says---in the bible" (BOOK, CHAPTER AND VERSE) that every word, every sentence, every phrase, MUST be in the bible in order for it to be true. Furthermore--show us Catholics, in the bible (book chapter and verse) that God chose to transmit His divine, infallible word ONLY IN THE BIBLE!!-----NOWHERE!!!---and why??? Because Jesus Christs One True Catholic Church (came first) "over 350 years before the Canon of Scripture was even put together, by the Early Church Fathers, in 382,393 and 397 AD.----AND---that is why Paul (in I Timothy 3:15, calls the CHURCH (not the bible) the pillar, pinnacle and foundation of the TRUTH. It was the CAtholic Church that gave you bible only (fundies) the bible of which you quote (or better yet misquote,--- interpret (or better yet mis-interpret) to your OWN DEMISE AND DESTRUCTION!!
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Fundies don't say that 'every word has to be in the Bible'; we have wonderful sermons, essays and such that define Bible truth. They say that every word MUST AGREE with the Bible. When a teaching is opposed to Bible truth, it cannot be trusted.

You speak of 'we' Catholics a lot. I believe that there is some uncertainty lurking in your heart. The TRUE CHURCH is founded ON JESUS, not the other way around. And it certainly is not left to the thoughts of a mortal man.

May you find the JOY of Jesus in your heart.

Since: Jun 10

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#429847 Mar 26, 2013
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Tiger Lily wrote:
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We are all guilty of sinning unknowingly but we can always ask forgiveness foe ALL our sin. As in the Lord's Prayer.
That is not what this says: For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,

It does not say "all" our sin....it specifically says "willfully"...
Free Mind

Spring Hill, FL

#429848 Mar 26, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
who="Free Mind"
How did that verse define a fool? Please site verse. Thanks.
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The verse says, "The FOOL has said in his heart,'there is no God'".
Neither Jefferson, Franklin, nor Lincoln said such. They believed in God.
Yes, you are correct. I wasn't clear. All expressed a belief in a Higher Power.

I think there is much evidence that those three men did not believe in the Biblical God to which that verse was referring.

My mistake.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#429849 Mar 26, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
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Not a language...gibberish.
I know of no other way to reply to gibberish other than with gibberish...
Then you have proven that you are in the wrong forum

You need one that agrees with you brand of faithlessness,an unbelief.

When I gave my personal stance of faith in God...you went about to systematically destroy it.
7th Day Catholic Rocks

Poplar Bluff, MO

#429850 Mar 26, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>sorry, but as ALL christians knows. the writer is talking about the [rapture] when he speaks of our bodies being changed, not after we are dead.
geesh, cant some of you flakes ever try and learn something about His Word.
and in secular medical world, it was learned over 20 years ago that there is the body present a molecule that has the ability to transform itself in 1/33,000 of a second, which conforms to the identical time of the "twinkling of the eye".
so it stands to reason that if a body is dead, that molecule is also dead, and therefore would not have the propensity to observe this change
The dead in Christ will rise first.

1 Thessalonians 4:16-17

King James Version (KJV)


16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord
Tiger Lily

New Zealand

#429851 Mar 26, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
842 814
<quoted text>
That is not what this says: For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
It does not say "all" our sin....it specifically says "willfully"...
Willing sin means we have not surrendered our hearts to God.
If we continue in life not having died to sin, we risk losing our redemption.
Sin is always tempting us. We must resist all sin.
If we love Him we keep His commandments.
So far, I have yet to see that the fourth commandment has been excluded.
Free Mind

Spring Hill, FL

#429852 Mar 26, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
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OUCH!!
Look for a report from the RCC that shows this outpsoken priest will be ex-communicated for speaking out against the RCC's and its immediate problems.
Looks like the door is now open wide. I wonder if anyone will volunteerly walk through it.
Scotland is like another planet for the believers in the "universal church."

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-ne...

I believe this same "Gay Mafia" term was first coined in Italy, based on the same charge there.

But to be fair, we've were previously informed by the Vatican that this is all the fault of permissive 1970s culture in the USA.

And comedy club owners worldwide are once again thanking Jesus for the RCC.
jesus christ blows me

Kingston, PA

#429853 Mar 26, 2013
7th Day Catholic Rocks wrote:
<quoted text>The dead in Christ will rise first.
1 Thessalonians 4:16-17
King James Version (KJV)
16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord
Dracula....has risen from the grave!

Since: Jun 10

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#429854 Mar 26, 2013
Tiger Lily wrote:
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Hey flakey flake.
Jesus himself said ... "My children, I will be with you only a little longer. You will look for me, and just as I told the Jews, so I tell you now: Where I am going, you cannot come.
See that, Preston? He was speaking to saved believers saying they cannot come to Heaven with Him. Until He calls them from the grave.
But then... I suspect you will follow a false doctrine that we ARE immortal and go straight to Heaven when we die.
They could not follow him then. He was about to die and return to God, and for a time they must be willing to be separated from him.

But he consoled them (Joh 13:36 Simon Peter said unto him, Lord, whither goest thou? Jesus answered him, Whither I go, thou canst not follow me now; but thou shalt follow me afterwards.) with the assurance that the separation would be only temporary, and that they should afterward follow him.

Pure logic....They could not follow him now....it was not their time to die...however, when they died they would be where He is...and where is that??? In Heaven...where else!!!!

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#429855 Mar 26, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:

So why don't you believe the non-canonical Jesus, that is if you "trust in Jesus"?
You are, more accurately posting, that you only accept a portion of Jesus - that which men have decided upon....not yourSelf.
You are contradicting yourSelf.
waaasssuuup wrote:
<quoted text>
Jesus is not dead and therefore He never stopped communicating. be that as it may, He doesn't contradict what He's said or stood for in the past, as recorded in the Bible. that's how i know what Words are from Christ and which are from wolves in sheeps clothing:)
I didn't say Jesus contradicted his own teachings, I asked you:

"why don't you believe the non-canonical Jesus, that is if you "trust in Jesus"?

And with you just saying "you know what Words are from Christ and which are from wolves in sheeps clothing" - How is that possible?

Unless.....and there is only two avenues you can take:

a. you've accept what other men have told you as the truth
b. you've come to the conclusion all on your own.

Both are actions of Self. Both require YOU to make a choice.

Both have nothing to do with a heirarchy and their self-righteousness to say, "Come home".

In the end - your own contradictions will cause dismay.

Since: Jun 10

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#429856 Mar 26, 2013
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confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
Then you have proven that you are in the wrong forum
You need one that agrees with you brand of faithlessness,an unbelief.
When I gave my personal stance of faith in God...you went about to systematically destroy it.
Pure logic...
I know of no other way to reply to gibberish other than with gibberish...

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#429857 Mar 26, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
817
<quoted text>
And I heard as it were the voice of a great multitude, and as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of mighty thunderings, saying, Alleluia: for the Lord God omnipotent reigneth.
What is there to understand other than His capabilities are unlimited....
...and undefinable by men.

Why do you think you hcan define "God"?

How did you acquire this authority?

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#429858 Mar 26, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
817
<quoted text>
And I heard as it were the voice of a great multitude, and as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of mighty thunderings, saying, Alleluia: for the Lord God omnipotent reigneth.
What is there to understand other than His capabilities are unlimited....
The arrogance of Christianity.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#429859 Mar 26, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
820 794
<quoted text>
Gnosticism: the beliefs and practices of pre-Christian and early Christian sects, condemned by the church, especially the conviction that matter is evil and that knowledge is more important than faith, and the practice of esoteric mysticism.
No thanks...I will stay with the Word of God...
Then it looks like you will never understand me.

Go back to your belief of men.

Since: Jun 10

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#429860 Mar 26, 2013
851
Tiger Lily wrote:
<quoted text>
Willing sin means we have not surrendered our hearts to God.
If we continue in life not having died to sin, we risk losing our redemption.
Sin is always tempting us. We must resist all sin.
If we love Him we keep His commandments.
So far, I have yet to see that the fourth commandment has been excluded.
You say: Willing sin means we have not surrendered our hearts to God.

Look again: 842 814

That is not what this says: For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,

Look: "after that we have received the knowledge of the truth". If that does not speak of a born again Christian...whom does it speak of????!!!!!

Since: Jun 10

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#429861 Mar 26, 2013
857
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
<quoted text>
...and undefinable by men.
Why do you think you hcan define "God"?
How did you acquire this authority?
I defined His capabilities...I will repeat:

817

And I heard as it were the voice of a great multitude, and as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of mighty thunderings, saying, Alleluia: for the Lord God omnipotent reigneth.

What is there to understand other than His capabilities are unlimited....
7th Day Catholic Rocks

Poplar Bluff, MO

#429862 Mar 26, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
<quoted text>
They could not follow him then. He was about to die and return to God, and for a time they must be willing to be separated from him.
But he consoled them (Joh 13:36 Simon Peter said unto him, Lord, whither goest thou? Jesus answered him, Whither I go, thou canst not follow me now; but thou shalt follow me afterwards.) with the assurance that the separation would be only temporary, and that they should afterward follow him.
Pure logic....They could not follow him now....it was not their time to die...however, when they died they would be where He is...and where is that??? In Heaven...where else!!!!
Are you sure he had not gone to prepasre a place that where he is they may be also and that will be at the resurrection not before.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#429863 Mar 26, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
857
<quoted text>
I defined His capabilities...I will repeat:
817
And I heard as it were the voice of a great multitude, and as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of mighty thunderings, saying, Alleluia: for the Lord God omnipotent reigneth.
What is there to understand other than His capabilities are unlimited....
No - you repeated a version described by a man.

"John" is not "God". Nor are the men who chose Revelation to speak as if for "God". In fact, "John" is speaking for "God", not "God" for "God".

Why do you believe these men are truthful, yet shun all others?

You are confused.

Strike #1

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#429864 Mar 26, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
849 832
<quoted text>
Pure logic...
I know of no other way to reply to gibberish other than with gibberish...
~~~

You can work to destroy my confident expectations.... if you pleas...

but your own expectations will be snared by the words of your own mouth.

The power of your own life and you own death is in your tongue.

~~~

Faith is not dependent upon logic...Faith does not depend upon the five senses.

Faith is

1. The state of expecting, with hope.

2. Prospect of good to come.

Psa 62:5 My soul, wait thou only upon God; for my expectation is from him.

Psa 62:6 He only is my rock and my salvation: he is my defence; I shall not be moved.

Psa 62:7 In God is my salvation and my glory: the rock of my strength, and my refuge, is in God.

Psa 62:8 Trust in him at all times; ye people, pour out your heart before him: God is a refuge for us. Selah. consider it.

Faith is ..being fully persuaded that what God has promise...He will perform.

It is ludicrousness for you to imagine.... that you can control what God has promised me personally..
Free Mind

Spring Hill, FL

#429865 Mar 26, 2013
jesus christ blows me wrote:
<quoted text>Sun day = worship of Sun, for christian.s
Saturns day = worship of Saturn, for Jews, whether Jews, who spent a lot of early days in Babylon, want to realize it or not.
March = Mars, on French calender.
Wow, nobody knew that I'll wager.

BTW, check out the preface of the Jefferson Bible. He was smarter than the average bear.

No need to insult a great philosopher because of a bunch of wingnuts.

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