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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 591459 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#429743 Mar 26, 2013
waaasssuuup wrote:
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paul simply took-up where Jesus left off and as i'm currently a member of the Body of Christ on earth, i'm taking up where Jesus & paul left off!
'come with me if you want to live' waaasssuuup
And all the while - leaving Jesus' teaching bured in the desert.

I understand.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#429744 Mar 26, 2013
Clay wrote:
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So I take it the Pentecostals gather on Saturday for worship?
'Confrint says the Bible says'.... Who's Confrint? nuff said.
You're no authority even if you do ordain yourself a Bishop. You control the folks in your compound who think you are an authority. But that's it. You preach strange and new doctrines not heard of before the Pentecostal movement was invented 150 yrs ago.
~~~

I GUESS AS A CONFIRMED INFIDEL.... YOU DON'T EVEN READ THE SCRIPTURE'S

IN

THE POST, I SEND...

YOUR GOD IS EVIDENTLY YOUR ONE TRULY APOSTATE POWERLESS PAGAN CHURCH..

THAT WILL NOT BE ABLE TO LIFT YOUR FEET ONE INCH FROM THIS EARTH

WHEN JESUS COMES TO CATCH AWAY HIS BRIDE...

JESUS SAID

Joh_15:5 I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit:

-->for without me ye can do nothing.

THE APOSTLE PAUL WROTE

2Co 13:7 Now I pray to God that ye do no evil; not that we should appear approved, but that ye should do that which is honest, though we be as reprobates.

2Co_13:8 For we can do nothing against the truth, but for the truth.

~~~~

YOU...(to your eternal sorrow) will find out one day that your Church is not God...neither does it hold a monopoly upon Christianity upon the earth...

GOD,... THE HOLY SPIRIT IS THE SPIRIT OF TRUTH...

HE NEEDED NOT APPOINTMENT...HE IS THE THIRD PERSON OF THE GODHEAD...

JESUS SAID OF THE SPIRIT OF TRUTH, AND COMFORTER,....

oh 16:7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart,

I will send him unto you.

Joh 16:8 And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment:

Joh 16:9 Of sin, because they believe not on me;

Joh 16:10 Of righteousness, because I go to my Father, and ye see me no more;

Joh 16:11 Of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged.

Joh 16:12 I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now.

Joh 16:13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.

Joh 16:14 He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you.

Joh 16:15 All things that the Father hath are mine: therefore said I, that

he shall take of mine, and shall shew it unto you.

YOUR POPE IS AN IMPOSTER ... A .USURPER

THAT HAS ATTEMPTED TO ASSUME/SEIZE THE POSITION OF THE THIRD PERSON OF THE GOD-HEAD..

HE AND HIS PREDECESSORS (OVER THE CENTURIES) HAVE MADE A TERRIBLE

CARNAL MESS OF SPIRITUAL CHRISTIANITY, AND ATTEMPTED TO TURN IT INTO A

PHYSICAL PAGAN CIRCUS, IN ROME..ITALY

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#429745 Mar 26, 2013
716
jethro8 wrote:
<quoted text>It's hard to believe in something that you can't prove absolutely undeniably exists. we are taught Santa Claus exists,and now this coming Sunday a rabbit named peter is going to hop down a bunny trail and deliver Easter eggs is that true?
The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#429746 Mar 26, 2013
731
confrinting with the word wrote:
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~~~
Are you sure that you name is not "WET BLANKET"..
I BELIEVE GOD CAN DO ANY THING..AFTER ALL HE IS GOD...
THE BIBLE IS CHUCK FULL OF EVENTS ...THAT those such as you ...would have kept from taking place/happening if you could have. RIGHT?
THE BIBLE SAYS
Rom_1:17 For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written,-->The just shall live by faith.
Gal_3:11 But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for,-->The just shall live by faith.
Heb_10:38 -->Now the just shall live by faith: but if any man draw back, my soul shall have no pleasure in him.
---
Psa 91:14 Because he hath set his love upon me, therefore will I deliver him: I will set him on high, because he hath known my name.
Psa 91:15 He shall call upon me, and I will answer him: I will be with him in trouble; I will deliver him, and honour him.
Psa 91:16 -->With long life will I satisfy him, and shew him my salvation.
~~~
You would destroy my faith if you could, would you not?...
The Bibles says..
Act_13:8 But Elymas the sorcerer (for so is his name by interpretation) withstood them,
seeking to turn away the deputy from the faith.
Mat_17:17 Then Jesus answered and said,--> O faithless and perverse generation, how long shall I be with you? how long shall I suffer you? bring him hither to me.
Mar_9:19 He answereth him, and saith,--> O faithless generation, how long shall I be with you? how long shall I suffer you? bring him unto me.
Luk_9:41 And Jesus answering said,--> O faithless and perverse generation, how long shall I be with you, and suffer you? Bring thy son hither.
I am not talking about God's capabilities!!!!
hojo

Minneapolis, MN

#429747 Mar 26, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
~~~
THE TRUTH IS THAT .... THE WHOLE UNIVERSE GIVES WITNESSES....THAT
AND The track records PROVES your religious institution
IS THE TRUE APOSTATE Catholic Church ...
THE FIRST PROTESTANT CHURCH....
THAT BROKE AWAY... FROM ORTHODOX CHRISTIAN CHURCH ...
THE EARLY CHURCH THAT CANONIZED THE BIBLE
ABOUT WHICH YOUR CHURCH LIES
ATTEMPT TO STEAL THE GLORY
BY CLAIMING YOU WROTE IT.
You just keep getting "more egg on your face" with every comment. Where is the word "Protestant" in the bible. This word appear in the 16th century,(after) the Reformation (another man made term)
Protestants "lay claim" to the word ----and is "no way' connected to the 1st 1500 years of the One True Apostolic Catholic Church intitated, formed and instituted by Jesus HIMSELF!! It's just an extension of the "bible only" editorialized "fundie"Christianity
OldJG

Rockford, IL

#429748 Mar 26, 2013
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
You just keep getting "more egg on your face" with every comment. Where is the word "Protestant" in the bible. This word appear in the 16th century,(after) the Reformation (another man made term)
Protestants "lay claim" to the word ----and is "no way' connected to the 1st 1500 years of the One True Apostolic Catholic Church intitated, formed and instituted by Jesus HIMSELF!! It's just an extension of the "bible only" editorialized "fundie"Christianity
Where are the words "Roman Catholic Church" in the Bible? Where is the word you so love, "transubstantiation" in the Bible? Where is the word "pope" in the Bible? Where is the word, "nun", in the Bible? Where are the words,"Holy Communion" in the Bible? Where are the words, "infant baptism" in the Bible? This is a short list of what you lay claim to.

Your Roman Catholic church is nothing more than a Babylonian hoax and perversion. Your "faith" as you call it is nothing more than a mix of every pagan religion in the Roman Empire at the time of Constantine.

Also, where is the word, "lent", in the Bible? HA, HA!!!
Kev

United States

#429749 Mar 26, 2013
The bible also tells you that the Roman catholic church ushers in the anti-christ in Revelations.
jesus christ blows me

Kingston, PA

#429750 Mar 26, 2013
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
You just keep getting "more egg on your face" with every comment. Where is the word "Protestant" in the bible. This word appear in the 16th century,(after) the Reformation (another man made term)
Protestants "lay claim" to the word ----and is "no way' connected to the 1st 1500 years of the One True Apostolic Catholic Church intitated, formed and instituted by Jesus HIMSELF!! It's just an extension of the "bible only" editorialized "fundie"Christianity
yeah...JESUS CHRIST WAS AN ITALIAN.

JESUS CHRIST SPOKE LATIN, TOO.

and jesus christ lived in a vatican palace, surrounded by jewels and silk.

you tell um

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#429751 Mar 26, 2013
jethro8 wrote:
<quoted text>It's hard to believe in something that you can't prove absolutely undeniably exists. we are taught Santa Claus exists,and now this coming Sunday a rabbit named peter is going to hop down a bunny trail and deliver Easter eggs is that true?

OXBOW WROTE..
The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.

~~~~

Confronting writes

The world has attempted to replace worship with ritual...

The flesh glories in pomp pride and public Pharisaical display.

The Devil works to duplicate and

R'AFF, n.

1. The sweepings of society; the rabble; the mob. This is used chiefly in the compound or duplicate, riff-raff.

2.Turn the work/word of God into ...

A promiscuous heap or collection; A jumble, of

confusion and corruption.

Thus the events that are of so greater value and importance in Christianity have been prostituted.
Dust Storm

Pennock, MN

#429752 Mar 26, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
"once they learn the truth about the Church, they will leave"
What truth? How Pagan Rome established Sunday as the Lords day to coincide with sun god worship??
God help anyone who pulls souls away from the Church using that 'truth'.
Jetrhos truth. lol I have never seen a guy so unbalanced in his approach to reasoning. His statements of slavery are completely clueless and absent. These people look for articles of what they want to hear then say Amen. Some of the greatest Catholics Saints of the church were Africans. Anyone who posts hogwash that the church condoned slavery based on race is devoid of any truth. All forms of slavery were condemned before the USA was formed. The Fathers wrote extensively on slavery. Meanwhile Protestants were quoting Ham shall serve Japeth bible alone theology to justify enslaving the black race.

As for Constantine who changed it the biblical, historical reality of that makes it total nonsense. Ellen White and Dan Brown in his fiction piece make some very wild claims. This is the problem with relative truths. Everyone is right. They say we are fully capable of making our own choices on what the bible says. We have no authority but that which we choose to believe and God oks it all. There are no false teachers with this methodology. Clearly that is what the Apostles had in mind. ABSURD!

Ellen Whites booklet (Numbers add up to 666) states that the observance of Sunday was mandated by Emperor Constantine in 321 A.D.(referring indirectly to the Edict of Laodicea). It claims that this mandate was forced upon the people; however, that statement is not exactly true. Perhaps this edict was imposed upon pagan business men who thought everyday should be a working day and perhaps those who thought Christians must observe the entire Law of Moses, including circumcision (Gal. 5:6-12; 6:12-16; 1 Cor. 7:18-19). This Edict only made Sunday a civil holiday. By doing so it secularized a practice that was already observed for centuries by Christians. As shown above, this ancient practice is witnessed by the Bible and in the writings of the Apostles, St. Barnabas (c. 100 A.D.), St. Ignatius (107 A.D.), also St. Justin Martyr (c.150 A.D.) and St. Irenaeus (155-202 A.D.).
Dust Storm

Pennock, MN

#429753 Mar 26, 2013
The Didache

"But every Lord’s day ... gather yourselves together and break bread, and give thanksgiving after having confessed your transgressions, that your sacrifice may be pure. But let no one that is at variance with his fellow come together with you, until they be reconciled, that your sacrifice may not be profaned" (Didache 14 [A.D. 70]).

The Letter of Barnabas

"We keep the eighth day [Sunday] with joyfulness, the day also on which Jesus rose again from the dead" (Letter of Barnabas 15:6–8 [A.D. 74]).

Ignatius of Antioch

"[T]hose who were brought up in the ancient order of things [i.e. Jews] have come to the possession of a new hope, no longer observing the Sabbath, but living in the observance of the Lord’s day, on which also our life has sprung up again by him and by his death" (Letter to the Magnesians 8 [A.D. 110]).

Justin Martyr

"[W]e too would observe the fleshly circumcision, and the Sabbaths, and in short all the feasts, if we did not know for what reason they were enjoined [on] you—namely, on account of your transgressions and the hardness of your heart....[H]ow is it, Trypho, that we would not observe those rites which do not harm us—I speak of fleshly circumcision and Sabbaths and feasts?... God enjoined you to keep the Sabbath, and imposed on you other precepts for a sign, as I have already said, on account of your unrighteousness and that of your fathers ..." (Dialogue with Trypho the Jew 18, 21 [A.D. 155]).

"But Sunday is the day on which we all hold our common assembly, because it is the first day on which God, having wrought a change in the darkness and matter, made the world; and Jesus Christ our Savior on the same day rose from the dead" (First Apology 67 [A.D. 155]).
Dust Storm

Pennock, MN

#429754 Mar 26, 2013
Tertullian

"[L]et him who contends that the Sabbath is still to be observed as a balm of salvation, and circumcision on the eighth day ... teach us that, for the time past, righteous men kept the Sabbath or practiced circumcision, and were thus rendered ‘friends of God.’ For if circumcision purges a man, since God made Adam uncircumcised, why did he not circumcise him, even after his sinning, if circumcision purges?... Therefore, since God originated Adam uncircumcised and unobservant of the Sabbath, consequently his offspring also, Abel, offering him sacrifices, uncircumcised and unobservant of the Sabbath, was by him [God] commended [Gen. 4:1–7, Heb. 11:4].... Noah also, uncircumcised—yes, and unobservant of the Sabbath—God freed from the deluge. For Enoch too, most righteous man, uncircumcised and unobservant of the Sabbath, he translated from this world, who did not first taste death in order that, being a candidate for eternal life, he might show us that we also may, without the burden of the law of Moses, please God" (An Answer to the Jews 2 [A.D. 203]).

The Didascalia

"The apostles further appointed: On the first day of the week let there be service, and the reading of the holy scriptures, and the oblation [sacrifice of the Mass], because on the first day of the week [i.e., Sunday] our Lord rose from the place of the dead, and on the first day of the week he arose upon the world, and on the first day of the week he ascended up to heaven, and on the first day of the week he will appear at last with the angels of heaven" (Didascalia 2 [A.D. 225]).

Origen

"Hence it is not possible that the [day of] rest after the Sabbath should have come into existence from the seventh [day] of our God. On the contrary, it is our Savior who, after the pattern of his own rest, caused us to be made in the likeness of his death, and hence also of his resurrection" (Commentary on John 2:28 [A.D. 229]).

Victorinus

"The sixth day [Friday] is called parasceve, that is to say, the preparation of the kingdom.... On this day also, on account of the passion of the Lord Jesus Christ, we make either a station to God or a fast. On the seventh day he rested from all his works, and blessed it, and sanctified it. On the former day we are accustomed to fast rigorously, that on the Lord’s day we may go forth to our bread with giving of thanks. And let the parasceve become a rigorous fast, lest we should appear to observe any Sabbath with the Jews ... which Sabbath he [Christ] in his body abolished" (The Creation of the World [A.D. 300]).
Dust Storm

Pennock, MN

#429755 Mar 26, 2013
Eusebius of Caesarea

"They [the early saints of the Old Testament] did not care about circumcision of the body, neither do we [Christians]. They did not care about observing Sabbaths, nor do we. They did not avoid certain kinds of food, neither did they regard the other distinctions which Moses first delivered to their posterity to be observed as symbols; nor do Christians of the present day do such things" (Church History 1:4:8 [A.D. 312]).

"[T]he day of his [Christ’s] light ... was the day of his resurrection from the dead, which they say, as being the one and only truly holy day and the Lord’s day, is better than any number of days as we ordinarily understand them, and better than the days set apart by the Mosaic law for feasts, new moons, and Sabbaths, which the apostle [Paul] teaches are the shadow of days and not days in reality" (Proof of the Gospel 4:16:186 [A.D. 319]).

Athanasius

"The Sabbath was the end of the first creation, the Lord’s day was the beginning of the second, in which he renewed and restored the old in the same way as he prescribed that they should formerly observe the Sabbath as a memorial of the end of the first things, so we honor the Lord’s day as being the memorial of the new creation" (On Sabbath and Circumcision 3 [A.D. 345]).

Cyril of Jerusalem

"Fall not away either into the sect of the Samaritans or into Judaism, for Jesus Christ has henceforth ransomed you. Stand aloof from all observance of Sabbaths and from calling any indifferent meats common or unclean" (Catechetical Lectures 4:37 [A.D. 350]).
Dust Storm

Pennock, MN

#429756 Mar 26, 2013
Council of Laodicea

"Christians should not Judaize and should not be idle on the Sabbath, but should work on that day; they should, however, particularly reverence the Lord’s day and, if possible, not work on it, because they were Christians" (Canon 29 [A.D. 360]).

John Chrysostom

"[W]hen he [God] said,‘You shall not kill’... he did not add,‘because murder is a wicked thing.’ The reason was that conscience had taught this beforehand, and he speaks thus, as to those who know and understand the point. Wherefore when he speaks to us of another commandment, not known to us by the dictate of conscience, he not only prohibits, but adds the reason. When, for instance, he gave commandment concerning the Sabbath—‘On the seventh day you shall do no work’—he subjoined also the reason for this cessation. What was this?‘Because on the seventh day God rested from all his works which he had begun to make’[Ex. 20:10-11].... For what purpose then, I ask, did he add a reason respecting the Sabbath, but did no such thing in regard to murder? Because this commandment was not one of the leading ones. It was not one of those which were accurately defined of our conscience, but a kind of partial and temporary one, and for this reason it was abolished afterward. But those which are necessary and uphold our life are the following:‘You shall not kill.... You shall not commit adultery.... You shall not steal.’ On this account he adds no reason in this case, nor enters into any instruction on the matter, but is content with the bare prohibition" (Homilies on the Statutes 12:9 [A.D. 387]).

"You have put on Christ, you have become a member of the Lord and been enrolled in the heavenly city, and you still grovel in the law [of Moses]? How is it possible for you to obtain the kingdom? Listen to Paul’s words, that the observance of the law overthrows the gospel, and learn, if you will, how this comes to pass, and tremble, and shun this pitfall. Why do you keep the Sabbath and fast with the Jews?" (Homilies on Galatians 2:17 [A.D. 395]).

“let's do this thang!”

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#429757 Mar 26, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
<quoted text>
And all the while - leaving Jesus' teaching bured in the desert.
I understand.
since Jesus and His teachings/Word are One and the Same and since Jesus literally lives in His Body of Believers through His Spirit, your words make no sense what-so-ever.

you can't beat this thang, new ager, so you might as well join it/us;)

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#429758 Mar 26, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
731
<quoted text>
I am not talking about God's capabilities!!!!
~~~

Col_3:17 And whatsoever ye do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God and the Father by him.

One of us must be on the wrong forum...
Dust Storm

Pennock, MN

#429759 Mar 26, 2013
"The rite of circumcision was venerable in the Jews’ account, forasmuch as the law itself gave way thereto, and the Sabbath was less esteemed than circumcision. For that circumcision might be performed, the Sabbath was broken; but that the Sabbath might be kept, circumcision was never broken; and mark, I pray, the dispensation of God. This is found to be even more solemn than the Sabbath, as not being omitted at certain times. When then it is done away, much more is the Sabbath" (Homilies on Philippians 10 [A.D. 402]).

The Apostolic Constitutions

"And on the day of our Lord’s resurrection, which is the Lord’s day, meet more diligently, sending praise to God that made the universe by Jesus, and sent him to us, and condescended to let him suffer, and raised him from the dead. Otherwise what apology will he make to God who does not assemble on that day ... in which is performed the reading of the prophets, the preaching of the gospel, the oblation of the sacrifice, the gift of the holy food" (Apostolic Constitutions 2:7:60 [A.D. 400]).

Augustine

"Well, now, I should like to be told what there is in these ten commandments, except the observance of the Sabbath, which ought not to be kept by a Christian.... Which of these commandments would anyone say that the Christian ought not to keep? It is possible to contend that it is not the law which was written on those two tables that the apostle [Paul] describes as ‘the letter that kills’[2 Cor. 3:6], but the law of circumcision and the other sacred rites which are now abolished" (The Spirit and the Letter 24 [A.D. 412]).
Dust Storm

Pennock, MN

#429760 Mar 26, 2013
Pope Gregory I

"It has come to my ears that certain men of perverse spirit have sown among you some things that are wrong and opposed to the holy faith, so as to forbid any work being done on the Sabbath day. What else can I call these [men] but preachers of Antichrist, who when he comes will cause the Sabbath day as well as the Lord’s day to be kept free from all work. For because he [the Antichrist] pretends to die and rise again, he wishes the Lord’s day to be held in reverence; and because he compels the people to Judaize that he may bring back the outward rite of the law, and subject the perfidy of the Jews to himself, he wishes the Sabbath to be observed. For this which is said by the prophet,‘You shall bring in no burden through your gates on the Sabbath day’[Jer. 17:24] could be held to as long as it was lawful for the law to be observed according to the letter. But after that the grace of almighty God, our Lord Jesus Christ, has appeared, the commandments of the law which were spoken figuratively cannot be kept according to the letter. For if anyone says that this about the Sabbath is to be kept, he must needs say that carnal sacrifices are to be offered. He must say too that the commandment about the circumcision of the body is still to be retained. But let him hear the apostle Paul saying in opposition to him:‘If you be circumcised, Christ will profit you nothing’[Gal. 5:2]" (Letters 13:1 [A.D. 597]).

http://www.catholic.com/tracts/sabbath-or-sun...
Clay

United States

#429761 Mar 26, 2013
OldJG wrote:
<quoted text>
Where are the words "Roman Catholic Church" in the Bible? Where is the word you so love, "transubstantiation" in the Bible? Where is the word "pope" in the Bible? Where is the word, "nun", in the Bible? Where are the words,"Holy Communion" in the Bible? Where are the words, "infant baptism" in the Bible? This is a short list of what you lay claim to.
Your Roman Catholic church is nothing more than a Babylonian hoax and perversion. Your "faith" as you call it is nothing more than a mix of every pagan religion in the Roman Empire at the time of Constantine.
Also, where is the word, "lent", in the Bible? HA, HA!!!
Ah the ignorant self proclaimed deacon came back to spew more lies. lol.
I'll tell you what Deacon, you show us where Christ instituted the Bible as his sole source of authority on His Ministry, then you can come at us with 'where in the Bible is pope where in the Bible is catholic where in the Bible is infant baptism where in the Bible is holy communion. Bible Bible Bible'

Say, who's Bible you using anyway? Where does it tell you to be reading it like that?

Since: Nov 08

usa

#429762 Mar 26, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
"once they learn the truth about the Church, they will leave"
What truth? How Pagan Rome established Sunday as the Lords day to coincide with sun god worship??
God help anyone who pulls souls away from the Church using that 'truth'.
Sol Invictus and Jesus Christ in comparative mythology
Christ is associated with the Sun through Christmas, which occurs at the time of the Winter solstice. Many astrologers point out a connection between a many of the supposed events in the New Testament to the phenomena of the sun which makes the biblical Jesus more of a solar riddle.

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