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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 590827 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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#429683 Mar 25, 2013
Clay wrote:
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The latest argument arose when you and Sera implied that child sexual abuse is a Catholic thing; that its more in the CC than any other group -including the Orthodox Churches.
That's an absurd accusation Herm. We can conclude you simply meant to smear us.
Back to dialogue:
Hypothetically, If your Bishops get together and approve a reunification with Rome, would you obey their decision?
When I smear your Church, you will know it. I have in depth research on every issue we differ with you on. I am a victim's advocate. That is my motive. I will speak up when I believe that the whole truth is not revealed about kids being abused. And examining what I have seen so far in history of this issue with regards to your church, based on a lifetime experience, I state there is not open disclosure nor accountability on this issue. If this is smearing your church would rather "smear your church" than have victims suffer. The only reason anyone would call this smearing the church is to change the focus. As I said out of respect I have not posted the research I have on virtually every issue we disagree on. As far as the Patriarchs go, what is this blind obedience that you perceive must be given to a man- a Pope, a Patriarch, a Bishop, a Priest? Our church does not work as a monarchy. Our church is the Body of Christ- the people. My bishop my priest and myself have many issues re reunion with the Catholic Church. Also I do not believe what I believe because I was told to believe it. My beliefs are based on my relationship with Christ, my study of the Bible, Church, Canons, Dogma,Councils,Tradition, Church History, and Prayer. And many many questions I have asked and have had successfully answered. If the Patriarchs violate any of this I will not change. The True Orthodox Church guards the faith.It does not hold to doctrinal develop as your church.If the Patriarchs change any core tenets in order to join the Catholics, I will wprk to preserve these tenets that have survived 2000 years. And I will find many Bishops that will do the same.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#429684 Mar 25, 2013
Clay wrote:
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Jesus Christ (God Himself manifested on Earth) gave authority to His Apostles.
Authority that Heaven and all the Angels would recognize as valid.
If you're going to claim yourself a Christian, you need to recognize that the Apostles established Sunday as the Lords day. This is what they commanded. Heaven acknowledge it as valid.(Matthew 16:19)
If you want to undo their authority and invent a 'joint' Judaism/Christian religion then you're acting on your own accord and without the authority to make such decisions.
~~~

You never cease to amaze me with you ignorant comments AND ARGUMENTS that you make that are so diametrically apposed to the word of God...

You MUST walk/live in abject darkness.

You wrote

If you want to undo their authority and invent a 'joint' Judaism/Christian religion then you're acting on your own accord and without the authority to make such decisions.

WHAT YOU DENY ...THAT COULD EVER HAPPEN.... HAS ALREADY TAKEN PLACE

The Bible says ... That God has already done ...

READ IT ALL ABOUT IT HERE

Eph 2:1 And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins;

Eph 2:2 Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:

Eph 2:3 Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.

Eph 2:4 But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us,

Eph 2:5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ,(by grace ye are saved;)

Eph 2:6 And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus:

Eph 2:7 That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus.

Eph 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

Eph 2:9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.

Eph 2:10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.

-->NOTE HERE WHAT GOD HAS DONE BETWEEN THE JEW AND GENTILE<--

Eph 2:11 Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands;

Eph 2:12 That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:

Eph 2:13 But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ.

Eph 2:14 For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us;

Eph 2:15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;

Eph 2:16 And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby:


Eph 2:17 And came and preached peace to you which were afar off, and to them that were nigh.

Eph 2:18 For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father.

Eph 2:19 Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God;

Eph 2:20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;

Eph 2:21 In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord:

Eph 2:22 In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit.
hojo

Saint Paul, MN

#429685 Mar 25, 2013
jethro8 wrote:
<quoted text>I did not come on here to attack Catholics,this shows your brain is in the wrong place,drop your pants and let it get some air,i came here because i saw this ridiculous statement made by the catholic church knowing full well from the first day i came here it was a lie,i have read much history in the past and there is single church known to man that can make the claim of being gods true church,there is no authentic undeniable history to prove any church can make this claim.you just refuse to except the truth. because of your church,all others are suffering as well,people are walking away from organized groups,they are sick and tired of all the scandals,there joining bible groups and getting into these phony TV evangelists,sorry to say.that's part of the history of your church.SORRY FOR THE BRAIN JOKE COULDN'T HELP IT.
Like I said before---"Heretics, false teachers, and now "editorialist church historians, "have come and gone" for over 2000 years---YET----the One True Apostolic Catholic Church. formed, initiated and authenticated by Jesus Christ HIMSELF--------LIVES ON!!!-and will CONTINUE TO LIVE ON!!----In-so-far as your comment. "people are walking away from organized religion"---(you are half-right) People ARE walking away from organized "Protestant" religion and (by the thousands) converting to the TRUTH of Jesus Christ (IN AND THROUGH) His One True Catholic Church..........growing 1.5% every years, while every Protestant denominationb (including bible only religions, are ALL declining!!!

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#429686 Mar 25, 2013
hojo wrote:
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God's plan of Salvation is "clearly revealed" in the Gospels by Jesus Christ HIMSELF!----YET---you "refuse" to follow, adhere to, and believe the TRUE SPOKEN WORDS of Jesus Himself. Salvation comes through Jesus Christ HIMSELF-revealed in the Melchisadeck Priesthood (New Testament)--and NOT in the Old Testament "Levitical Priesthood which was "done away with" when Jesus Christ was born.......... Quoting scripture verses in the book of Genesis is "further proof" that it is YOU CONFRINTING, that is the one who is "changing Gods Plan for Salvation"....... Jesus Christ One True Apostolic Catholic Church has adhered to JESUS' TRUE PLAN OF SALVATION, for over 2000 years.
~~~
THE TRUTH IS THAT .... THE WHOLE UNIVERSE GIVES WITNESSES....THAT

AND The track records PROVES your religious institution

IS THE TRUE APOSTATE Catholic Church ...

THE FIRST PROTESTANT CHURCH....

THAT BROKE AWAY... FROM ORTHODOX CHRISTIAN CHURCH ...

THE EARLY CHURCH THAT CANONIZED THE BIBLE

ABOUT WHICH YOUR CHURCH LIES

ATTEMPT TO STEAL THE GLORY

BY CLAIMING YOU WROTE IT.

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#429687 Mar 25, 2013
660
confrinting with the word wrote:
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I guess I haven't come to the "Golden Age" yet...I am only 78...
(WILL BE 79 IN JUNE.).... I intend to "LIVE" until I die...
I refuse to accept what is generally called the "infirmities of the
Golden Age"...
My Bible tells me that...
Jesus came that I might have life and have it more abundantly...
I intend to keep my soul by the application of the word of God in my
existence...so that I might prosper and be in health ....
John wrote
3Jn_1:2 Beloved, I wish above all things that thou mayest prosper and be in health, even as thy soul prospereth.
Take a real close look at 3John 1:2....see that one lil word? "wish"....in my world a wish is not a guarantee...

I wish you no illness...but, I suggest you get insurance....when your health will fail, and it will, you will not have the option to accept or reject its failure.....

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#429688 Mar 25, 2013
F.B. Meyer commentary

Ephesians 2:11-22

Reconciled and United by the Cross

Eph_2:11-22

The state of the unconverted must be described by a series of negations. Shut the sun out of the world, love out of the home, liberty out of the state! The unsaved know not of their infinite loss; but if they could see what we inherit through union with Jesus, they could cease to wonder that we run not with them into the same excess of riot. Does a maiden need much persuasion to cast aside paste jewels when real ones are offered her!

There was no natural affinity between Jew and Gentile. This arose partly because of diverse nationality and genius; but in addition the whole code of Jewish customs as to eating clean meats and ceremonial pollution, prevented it. All these party-walls of division were swept away by Christ. In Him, as the cornerstone, two walls, running in different directions, met. Two sections of humanity, East and West, became united to each other, because each was united to Him, and thus was formed a new unit of humanity.

What a noble conception is given of the Church and ultimately of the redeemed race, growing slowly through the ages and becoming Godís dwelling-place!

Notice the Trinity; through Jesus, the Eternal Father

comes by His Spirit to dwell in the heart of man.

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#429689 Mar 25, 2013
660
confrinting with the word wrote:
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~~~
I guess I haven't come to the "Golden Age" yet...I am only 78...
(WILL BE 79 IN JUNE.).... I intend to "LIVE" until I die...
I refuse to accept what is generally called the "infirmities of the
Golden Age"...
My Bible tells me that...
Jesus came that I might have life and have it more abundantly...
I intend to keep my soul by the application of the word of God in my
existence...so that I might prosper and be in health ....
John wrote
3Jn_1:2 Beloved, I wish above all things that thou mayest prosper and be in health, even as thy soul prospereth.
PS...I know of no one that has not lived until they die!!!!

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#429690 Mar 25, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
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Take a real close look at 3John 1:2....see that one lil word? "wish"....in my world a wish is not a guarantee...
I wish you no illness...but, I suggest you get insurance....when your health will fail, and it will, you will not have the option to accept or reject its failure.....
~~~~

You need to define the word WISH as used in the context of the scripture...

3Jn_1:2 Beloved, I -->wish<-- above all things that thou mayest prosper and be in health, even as thy soul prospereth.

The word -->wish<-- as used above in 3Jn_1:2 ...defined in Greek.

G2171
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euche&#772;
yoo-khay'
From G2172; properly a wish, expressed as a petition to God, or in votive obligation:- prayer, vow.

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#429691 Mar 25, 2013
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Tiger Lily wrote:
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No, I am not.
1 John 2:1 My dear children, I write this to you so that you will not sin. But if anybody does sin, we have an advocate with the Father--Jesus Christ, the Righteous One. This is what we call grace.
The Decalogue is there so we can see what sin is. Without the Law there is no sin.
If a traffic officer pulls you up and says you were speeding but there is no speed sign in a hundred miles, how can he ticket you?
Now you have confused me. How can you do both??? Keep the law AND break the law?????

He can, and will, issue a ticket, or jail you for speeding at 100mph..

Ignorance of the law is no excuse. That's the standard line motorists hear when they say they weren't aware of the speed limit, or gun owners hear when they say didn't know about the gun laws in the jurisdiction they happened to get arrested in.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#429692 Mar 25, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
660
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PS...I know of no one that has not lived until they die!!!!
~~~

I said I intend to "LIVE"...be active..quickened, live life in Christ in

the fullest till I die...

I don't have to be sick or in-firmed to die.
marge

Ames, IA

#429693 Mar 25, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
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~~~
The worst problem with a straw man is that he has no heart.
He is firmly fixed/set in his position of emptiness and as dry as a last years bird's nest.
He is characterized in the new testament as..
Jud_1:12 These are spots in your feasts of charity, when they feast with you,
feeding themselves without fear:
clouds they are without water,
carried about of winds;
trees whose fruit withereth,
without fruit,
twice dead, plucked up by the roots;
In the Old Testament
His description is
Psa 1:4 The ungodly are not so: but are like the chaff which the wind driveth away.
Psa 1:5 Therefore the ungodly shall not stand in the judgment, nor sinners in the congregation of the righteous.
Psa 1:6 For the LORD knoweth the way of the righteous:
but the way of the ungodly shall perish.
Oh dear brother GIF the Lord gave me these verses when I was troubled today about the current afairs of the US,(gay marriage, effect on children), and this freed me from worry;

1 Oh, the joys of those who do not
follow the advice of the wicked,
or stand around with sinners,
or join in with mockers.
2 But they delight in the law of the Lord,
meditating on it day and night.
3 They are like trees planted along the riverbank,
bearing fruit each season.
Their leaves never wither,
and they prosper in all they do.

The LORD our God is sooo GOOD!
Pad

Rockford, IL

#429694 Mar 25, 2013
socci wrote:
Roman Catholic Nancy Pelosi - New World Order!
http://youtu.be/9d-jkF5Pjrc
The NWO replaced the holy roman empire.
www.jesus-is-savior.com/Evils%20in%20Governme...
ē Hidden Faith of the Founding Fathers
www.youtube.com/watch...
http://continuingcounterreformation.blogspot....
www.newadvent.org/cathen/03381a.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rome,_Maryland
The Hierarchy of the Roman Empire now called the Roman Church
Roman Empire offices & their modern names:
Roman Empire (Imperium Romanum) renamed: Roman Catholic Church.
Curia (legal body of Senators) slight name change: Curia (legal body of Cardinals).
Roman Emperor renamed: Roman Pope (head of all church and state affairs).
Civil government matters of state: Extra-Ordinary affairs (matters of civil-state governments).
Religious orders matters: Church "ecclesiastical" matters.
Roman College of Senators renamed: College of Cardinals.
Magistrate of College of Senators renamed: Dean of College of Cardinals.
Departments of the Roman Senatorial Curia renamed: Congregations.
Political Ambassador renamed: Pro-Nuncio (highest civil ambassador sent to other governements, ie Wash.DC, London etc).
Roman Senators renamed: Cardinals.
Roman Governors renamed: Archbishops.
Roman Senator with no territory: Bishop (Code of Canon Law 376).
(Large) Roman Province renamed: Archdiocese.
(Small) Roman Territory renamed: Diocese.
Imperial Chair of Jupiter where Caesar sat renamed: Throne of St. Peter.
Vestal Virgins renamed: Nuns.
Pontifex Maximus (high priest of College of Senators) renamed: Supreme Pontiff of College of Cardinals.
Pontiff or "high priest " of a pagan religious order (Zues, Apollo, Diana, Mars, Jupiter, Baal, Dionysys, Pythia etc) same name: Pontiff.
A Pontiff (Latin: "pontifex") means bridge-builder or priest between man and the gods.
The Roman Calender and Holy Days of the gods renamed: Calendar Holidays of the Saints.
Voice of the gods speaking through Caesar: Ex-Cathedra: Voice of God speaking through Pope.
Meeting of the Pontiffs (high priests) of the pagan religious orders renamed: Ecumenical Council of the Bishops.
Legal act of creating a god (of a living or dead human, as was done to most of the Caesars) "Apotheosis of the Gods" renamed: Canonization of the Saints.
A decree of Caesar (dictator for life): Pope's infalliable Papal Bull.
Praying to a dead human god renamed: Praying to a saint.
In the US the highest law of the land is the Constitution and the Bill of Rights in the Vatican State the Constitution is called the Code of Canon Law.
The youtube.com on the founding fathers,their hidden beliefs and so on was really good,it lasted an hour or so,and I watched the full.Christian Pinto is really informative.

Dave Barton should be horse whipped for presenting in such a grand scale the bits and pieces of misinformation about Jefferson,Franklin,Adams and Washington.Shame on him.His agenda is really misguided.I always knew that it was said of those men that they were not Christians but Deists and Freemasons.Yes and I heard as well that George Washington had a death bed conversion to the RCC.That youtube is well worth keeping and seeing as info,well done!

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#429695 Mar 25, 2013
660
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
~~~~
You need to define the word WISH as used in the context of the scripture...
3Jn_1:2 Beloved, I -->wish<-- above all things that thou mayest prosper and be in health, even as thy soul prospereth.
The word -->wish<-- as used above in 3Jn_1:2 ...defined in Greek.
G2171
&#949;&#965;&#787; &#967;&#951;&#769;
euche&#772;
yoo-khay'
From G2172; properly a wish, expressed as a petition to God, or in votive obligation:- prayer, vow.
Greek is not necessarily Greek!!!!

The definition of the Greek word from which "wish" was translated us: by implication, to pray to God:--pray, will, wish.

If you apply "pray to God", that still is no guarantee...for Divine reasons, God does not always give us what we pray for...

Since "wish" is also a definition of the Greek word from which wish was translated, this definition is also applicable: A desire, longing, or strong inclination for a specific thing.

A desire, longing, or strong inclination, is no guarantee....

marge

Ames, IA

#429696 Mar 25, 2013
Tiger Lily wrote:
<quoted text>
No, I am not.
1 John 2:1 My dear children, I write this to you so that you will not sin. But if anybody does sin, we have an advocate with the Father--Jesus Christ, the Righteous One. This is what we call grace.
The Decalogue is there so we can see what sin is. Without the Law there is no sin.
If a traffic officer pulls you up and says you were speeding but there is no speed sign in a hundred miles, how can he ticket you?
Hey T is that you? How are you and yours, I liked when you talked about your family and country.

You make the point where there is no law there is no sin,

Do you agree then that Sin points to death?

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#429697 Mar 25, 2013
692
confrinting with the word wrote:
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I said I intend to "LIVE"...be active..quickened, live life in Christ in
the fullest till I die...
I don't have to be sick or in-firmed to die.
You got one thing right!!! Death arrives in many forms other than a failure of health...

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#429698 Mar 25, 2013
Power in the Blood


There is power, power, wonder-working power
In the blood of the Lamb
There is power, power, wonder-working power
In the precious blood of the Lamb
atemcowboy

Waverly, OH

#429699 Mar 25, 2013
Hermeneutics Smutics wrote:
Power in the Blood
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =vVKF7gt3CakXX
There is power, power, wonder-working power
In the blood of the Lamb
There is power, power, wonder-working power
In the precious blood of the Lamb
I love that song. how have you been? I have missed you.

Since: Dec 11

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#429700 Mar 25, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>I love that song. how have you been? I have missed you.
I missed you too and your wife.
Its been a long recovery. I now feel well enough to do some posting. I will be starting physical rehab at the hospital next week.I am home, Thank God. Its my lungs. I believe I am getting better and will continue to get batter. Christ lifted me out of the jaws of death again. They thought I caught the "Last Train to Clarksville"I realy really appreciate your concern and prayers. These will never be forgotten. Hope to be posting back and forth to you here in near future now. You and your wife take care. May God always watch over you.
truth

Perth, Australia

#429701 Mar 26, 2013
you explain about driving ticket ..yes yes its materialistic posesion money..now did anyone died..funeral company bot exist..Are you joking?

now its mean you explain perfection in materialisam..ohhhhh

now prince of air=wind

3x
athmosfere stratosfere troposfere
you mean that ticket

now
i say ones more
your law is not my law
nobody break nothing at all according set up wicket people your law is broken
why
look altar with wicket hand broken

see
read better

now
you need explain
who ad something shall be ad all error or sin to them..

read again
i say to you your law is not mine
as wel;l you explain before posessor is not Creator nooooooo

its mean
who is last will be first=there find your law is not exist
noooooooooooooooooo
truth

Perth, Australia

#429702 Mar 26, 2013
in matrix is so long evil evil upon evil..yes possessors upon possessors always some liars from beginning..

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