Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

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The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ. Full Story
Clay

Saint Paul, MN

#429502 Mar 24, 2013
Tiger Lily wrote:
<quoted text>
Really Clay? Then there would be a record in Scripture of the apostles keeping Sunday. There isn't. They never knew what a mass was. They celebrated the Last Supper. Not a mass ... far from it. No candles or bells. No altar.
I suggest the RCC is concocted on tradition fables and lies.
BTW, many other well known people also see the RCC in Revelation.
'Breaking Bread'(acts 20:7) is the Holy Mass. Sunday. This is what was taught. You guys showed up 1800 yrs later and undid it.

If you're interested in what the Apostles actually taught instead of what Ellen White taught, you can read the writings of their Disciples.

Here is what Saint Ignatius - who studied under John the Apostle had to say:

"Be not seduced by strange doctrines or antiquated fables, which are profitless. For if even unto this day we live after the manner of Judaism, we avow that we have not received grace...if then those who have walked in ancient practices attained unto newness of hope, no longer observing Sabbaths, but fashioning their lives after the Lords day, on which our life ALSO arose through Him and through His death which some men deny....how shall we be able to live apart from Him? It is monstrous to talk of Jesus Christ and to practice Judaism. For Christianity did not believe in Judaism, but Judaism in Christianity"!!

Ignatius to the Magnesiums

Translation: If you want to be a Jew than observe Saturday.
Tiger Lily

New Zealand

#429503 Mar 24, 2013
The wickedest cult ever is undoubtedly the RCC. Popes have been corrupt, murderous and obhorrently evil throughout its history. At one time the papacy was known as the pornocracy.
Evil men historically.
Revelation clearly portrays a global (universal) power which rules over the kings of this earth.
No other power than the RCC can claim this. The dark ages 538ad to 1798ad were clearly the spawn of this evil system.
The Jesuits, seen to be lamb-like are a bunch of maniacs determined to wipe out all Protestants whenever and by whatever means they can.

It is clearly the power which has no other like it and which sits in Rome which Revelation depicts.

Only a stubborn Roman Catholic would deny this.
I should say, a stubborn ignorant and stupid Roman Catholic who loves tradition above the Bible and who believes popes have the power to change God's law would deny this.
Clay

Saint Paul, MN

#429504 Mar 24, 2013
Hermeneutics Smutics wrote:
<quoted text>I do not wish to trash your Church. I believe in my heart that this illness in your church has not been sufficiently addressed. Thie does not reflect on your Church's deposit of faith or the Truth is presents.I believe that the real enemy of your Church is whatever is driving this illness.
I base my belief on many many years of working with offenders, victims, families and institutions.To say someone or some institution has a sickness is not to trash it but to try to help it. My heartfelt belief is, yes , the Catholic Curch has this problem of abuse and cover up more than others.
Nonsense Herm. Complete ignorant nonsense. All data shows otherwise. You should know better than to think something so ridiculous.
Tiger Lily

New Zealand

#429505 Mar 24, 2013
http://www.antichristtruth.com/
Antichrist is a CHURCH:
In the Bible a WOMAN symbolizes a CHURCH. See such verses as 2 Corinthians 11:2, Isaiah 54:5-6, Jeremiah 3:14, Ephesians 5:31-33, etc. Christ is represented as the Bridegroom (Matthew 9:14-15, Revelation 19:7). An unfaithful Church commits spiritual adultery (Ezekiel 16:28, 32).

Antichrist is a CORRUPT Church:

Just as a pure woman represents a pure Church, a corrupt woman represents a corrupt Church. The woman in white is Christ’s bride, the true Church. But Revelation 17:1, 15-16 and 19:2 call this second woman a “WHORE” or “HARLOT”, a fallen Church teaching false doctrines.

Antichrist is a LARGE, WORLDWIDE Church:

She sits on “many WATERS,” explained as being many “peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.” Revelation 17:1 and 15. The very word catholic means “universal,” and the Papal Church has the largest, most widespread membership in Christendom.
Antichrist is a RICH Church:

This symbolic wicked woman, this corrupt Church is a rich one with gorgeous display. Revelation 17:4 says she’s “decked with GOLD and PRECIOUS STONES and PEARLS, having a GOLDEN cup in her hand.”

Which Church would you say is the richest in the world all the while professing poverty?
The RCC perhaps?
Dust Storm

Pennock, MN

#429506 Mar 24, 2013
Hermeneutics Smutics wrote:
<quoted text>I do not wish to trash your Church. I believe in my heart that this illness in your church has not been sufficiently addressed. Thie does not reflect on your Church's deposit of faith or the Truth is presents.I believe that the real enemy of your Church is whatever is driving this illness.
I base my belief on many many years of working with offenders, victims, families and institutions.To say someone or some institution has a sickness is not to trash it but to try to help it. My heartfelt belief is, yes , the Catholic Curch has this problem of abuse and cover up more than others.
Your heartfelt beliefs are not facts. We acknowledged it, we have paid heavily for it. We have worked on it and still are. What you are cultivating is hate. Just read seres posts and the ones posted by the Protestants who cheer you on when you attack the church.

I am still going with the Orthodox statement I posted that you have no right to make claims like you do. The initiatives have been extensive and the church is global in nature. I would suggest you focus on the sickness in your institution rather than grandstanding with heartfelt beliefs rather than facts.

All churches, schools, insitutions need guidelines, practices and education and universal policies to deal with these issues. The best way to deal with offendors is something noone has an answer to. 3 month sentences are no answer.

Seminarians are now administered tests before being allowed, reporting policies, etc. have been implemented, training, laity councils to investigate, the involvement of civil authorities. We posted several times the numerous things the church has done and continues to do. The results of those efforts have already shown very positive results. I would like to see any institution that has done as much as the church.

To quote Pope Benedict, "This evil must be purged from our midst."
truth

Perth, Australia

#429507 Mar 24, 2013
last supper
why is like that..i do few arts ..no perfectly..but i do few..not to be winner ..its been tradition or culture..me no i don't look in that time as i look today..still not interesting for everything..
look line where Jesus step with lags under table
look that art..i mean you need find out correct art..

are you always like that..not to be smart with your expression..no..
Clay

Saint Paul, MN

#429508 Mar 24, 2013
Tiger Lily wrote:
The wickedest cult ever is undoubtedly the RCC. Popes have been corrupt, murderous and obhorrently evil throughout its history. At one time the papacy was known as the pornocracy.
Evil men historically.
Revelation clearly portrays a global (universal) power which rules over the kings of this earth.
No other power than the RCC can claim this. The dark ages 538ad to 1798ad were clearly the spawn of this evil system.
The Jesuits, seen to be lamb-like are a bunch of maniacs determined to wipe out all Protestants whenever and by whatever means they can.
It is clearly the power which has no other like it and which sits in Rome which Revelation depicts.
Only a stubborn Roman Catholic would deny this.
I should say, a stubborn ignorant and stupid Roman Catholic who loves tradition above the Bible and who believes popes have the power to change God's law would deny this.
Well, Im not stubborn!

I can certainly see a whacked out radical fundie when I see one!

You should be more concerned with what will happen to you for adding to Johns Prophecy.

"I warn everyone who hears the words of the Prophecy of this book. If any one adds to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book"
Rev 22:18

Tiger Lily says John was prophesying the Catholic Church. John does not say that! In fact, no one ever thought of such an absurdity until a couple hundred yrs ago.

I'd say you're about as brave as can be; amazingly bold to thumb your nose at the Apostle John's direct warning.
truth

Perth, Australia

#429509 Mar 24, 2013
Why you think that government policy is correct, honest or not abuse power..????????
Clay

Saint Paul, MN

#429510 Mar 24, 2013
Tiger Lily wrote:
http://www.antichristtruth.com /
Antichrist is a CHURCH:
In the Bible a WOMAN symbolizes a CHURCH. See such verses as 2 Corinthians 11:2, Isaiah 54:5-6, Jeremiah 3:14, Ephesians 5:31-33, etc. Christ is represented as the Bridegroom (Matthew 9:14-15, Revelation 19:7). An unfaithful Church commits spiritual adultery (Ezekiel 16:28, 32).
Antichrist is a CORRUPT Church:
Just as a pure woman represents a pure Church, a corrupt woman represents a corrupt Church. The woman in white is Christ’s bride, the true Church. But Revelation 17:1, 15-16 and 19:2 call this second woman a “WHORE” or “HARLOT”, a fallen Church teaching false doctrines.
Antichrist is a LARGE, WORLDWIDE Church:
She sits on “many WATERS,” explained as being many “peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.” Revelation 17:1 and 15. The very word catholic means “universal,” and the Papal Church has the largest, most widespread membership in Christendom.
Antichrist is a RICH Church:
This symbolic wicked woman, this corrupt Church is a rich one with gorgeous display. Revelation 17:4 says she’s “decked with GOLD and PRECIOUS STONES and PEARLS, having a GOLDEN cup in her hand.”
Which Church would you say is the richest in the world all the while professing poverty?
The RCC perhaps?
I wish you the best of luck as you look Jesus Christ in the eye one day. May He have mercy on your soul.

Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#429511 Mar 24, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
Nonsense Herm. Complete ignorant nonsense. All data shows otherwise. You should know better than to think something so ridiculous.
Throughout the years I have been called names and accused of maliciousness by families in which sexual abuse was occurring and I was trying to bring others attention to it. It is part of the dues paid. No hard feelings .
truth

Perth, Australia

#429512 Mar 24, 2013
Orthodox is not better in anything.
Jesus is not Orthodox.
noooooooooooooooooooooo
truth

Perth, Australia

#429514 Mar 24, 2013
Are you for sure who tell you not ad..perfectly describe future..or try make limits of others?

even if they tell you simple like..still they can't open every seal..

are you for sure our human intelligence on high level..or less then half in entire universe much more..

Since: Feb 12

Location hidden

#429515 Mar 24, 2013
Dust Storm wrote:
<quoted text>
Your heartfelt beliefs are not facts. We acknowledged it, we have paid heavily for it. We have worked on it and still are. What you are cultivating is hate. Just read seres posts and the ones posted by the Protestants who cheer you on when you attack the church.
I am still going with the Orthodox statement I posted that you have no right to make claims like you do. The initiatives have been extensive and the church is global in nature. I would suggest you focus on the sickness in your institution rather than grandstanding with heartfelt beliefs rather than facts.
All churches, schools, insitutions need guidelines, practices and education and universal policies to deal with these issues. The best way to deal with offendors is something noone has an answer to. 3 month sentences are no answer.
Seminarians are now administered tests before being allowed, reporting policies, etc. have been implemented, training, laity councils to investigate, the involvement of civil authorities. We posted several times the numerous things the church has done and continues to do. The results of those efforts have already shown very positive results. I would like to see any institution that has done as much as the church.
To quote Pope Benedict, "This evil must be purged from our midst."
To battle back and forth on the sudject of abuse and further is useless.The trueth is out there for all to see.It matters not with whether your right or I am.I refuse to post on this subject anymore.It is a waste of time.

Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#429516 Mar 24, 2013
Dust Storm wrote:
<quoted text>
Your heartfelt beliefs are not facts. We acknowledged it, we have paid heavily for it. We have worked on it and still are. What you are cultivating is hate. Just read seres posts and the ones posted by the Protestants who cheer you on when you attack the church.
I am still going with the Orthodox statement I posted that you have no right to make claims like you do. The initiatives have been extensive and the church is global in nature. I would suggest you focus on the sickness in your institution rather than grandstanding with heartfelt beliefs rather than facts.
All churches, schools, insitutions need guidelines, practices and education and universal policies to deal with these issues. The best way to deal with offendors is something noone has an answer to. 3 month sentences are no answer.
Seminarians are now administered tests before being allowed, reporting policies, etc. have been implemented, training, laity councils to investigate, the involvement of civil authorities. We posted several times the numerous things the church has done and continues to do. The results of those efforts have already shown very positive results. I would like to see any institution that has done as much as the church.
To quote Pope Benedict, "This evil must be purged from our midst."
The first thing an institution in the spotlight does is exactly the things you mentioned.
1. make many speeches condemning the abuse
2 list all the new training provided to members (clergy)
3. list the preventative measures taught the laymen
4 new mission statements and policies

I have seen this many times. When you start seeing top brass being escorted away in cuffs as a result of the institution itself assuming responsibility now we are talking.When the books are open now we can know the extent of the problem and extent of the progress. I have been doing this a very long time.
Tiger Lily

New Zealand

#429517 Mar 24, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
Well, Im not stubborn!
I can certainly see a whacked out radical fundie when I see one!
You should be more concerned with what will happen to you for adding to Johns Prophecy.
"I warn everyone who hears the words of the Prophecy of this book. If any one adds to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book"
Rev 22:18
Tiger Lily says John was prophesying the Catholic Church. John does not say that! In fact, no one ever thought of such an absurdity until a couple hundred yrs ago.
I'd say you're about as brave as can be; amazingly bold to thumb your nose at the Apostle John's direct warning.
This just shows the blindfolds you have on. I did not add to scripture. John had to write in symbolic language or the pagan church of the day also now known as the RCC would have done more than exile him.
I have no fear of repeating what other well known and brave men have stated.
Tiger Lily

New Zealand

#429518 Mar 24, 2013
The Unavoidable Identity of The Antichrist Part 1
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The Unavoidable Identity of The Antichrist Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
The Unavoidable Identity of The Antichrist Part 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
The Unavoidable Identity of The Antichrist Part 4
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
The Unavoidable Identity of The Antichrist Part 5
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
The Unavoidable Identity of The Antichrist Part 6
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
truth

Perth, Australia

#429519 Mar 24, 2013
yes you been called..i know that..is that nice sometimes yes sometimes not..why is like that?

We speak about Jesus?
Our level is not some..to be or not to be..intellectually.. spiritually and so ever.

All of us are deference.

Jesus say you need except every words to know.
turn your face on other side.

People wrote here..you can find many things here..you need transform into what?
Now as example you are Mr or Mrs cylinder!
Is that nice?..no.. what is very nice know our body is shape as cylinder..as well you can be kucica selica..kucica=house or building as =box..yes Mr or Mrs Boxerica..

look two symbol cylinder as well box as geometric shape..as alive as that funeral company box..
as alive we move around as resting place box as ever lasting for body not move in shape of box any box...

please tell me why i am wrong..

Please explain from ordinary to extraordinary=why we are here on this planet as in box pokusni kunici for what?
Dust Storm

Pennock, MN

#429520 Mar 24, 2013
Seraphima wrote:
<quoted text>To battle back and forth on the sudject of abuse and further is useless.The trueth is out there for all to see.It matters not with whether your right or I am.I refuse to post on this subject anymore.It is a waste of time.
That would be great, because to date you haven't contributed anything intelligent on it. Yes it is useless and its too bad you cant see it. You do waste time as you prefer to be an ignoramous and slander with hate. We didnt bring it up in a self righteous tirade of emotion. I am sorry you can't join with the Orthodox who seek common ground and work together as your Patriarchs have encouraged. Even if our churches united there would always be those who would reject that and hold to their own beliefs and thus would be in schism with your personal truth.
truth

Perth, Australia

#429521 Mar 24, 2013
institution
please explain what they doing on nice way..
Did they ever make mistake or great sin=or error..
example
-rise of dictators
-abuse power
-mislead
-to become rich, exploitation
-war for paprika's silk, drugs, gold, silver and so on..
-as well many things
History show yes it is!
How they looks..in nice suits, with nice attitude, nice speech, very certain with great impact with some great result about what?
truth

Perth, Australia

#429522 Mar 24, 2013
-rise medical dictator= scientific
Is that you corupt nice institution because they can nicely wrote any documents or do according law peace-full crime.

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